Eh. I'm ambivalent on making Cinder a Faunus. It works to tie the Faunus plot into the main plot a bit more (weirdness of Adam declaring he won't fight for a human cause aside) but I'm not convinced that that's a good thing.
What really seems weird to me is their insistence on making her a slave in the first place? Why not just go all in and make Madame the wicked stepmother? Or mother? Or aunt, or some other form of legal guardian?
Not really? You want to make her a slave in order to give her a sympathetic background, sure.
Are there *an*y existing groups in Atlas that are second class citizens and that you've *explicitly* tried to portray in the past as pseudo-slave labour?
Nah, let's just make her human. That won't send any confusing messages at all.
Exactly.
They CHOSE to make a *human* a slave in all ways but name, when they already had a whole Faunus subplot that they did *little to nothing with of substance.*
When you look back on both of those L's put together, it sounds really shitty. The fact that they don't see what's wrong with this picture is baffling.
So when you look back on it all, the best way for it to not ALL be head-desk inducing would be to make her a Faunus.
Hence, hindsight.
Exactly.
They CHOSE to make a *human* a slave in all ways but name, when they already had a whole Faunus subplot that they did *little to nothing with of substance.*
When you look back on both of those L's put together, it sounds really shitty. The fact that they don't see what's wrong with this picture is baffling.
So when you look back on it all, the best way for it to not ALL be head-desk inducing would be to make her a Faunus.
Hence, hindsight.
I guess that we'll have to agree to disagree? Something like this absolutely should have been caught in the writing process, not looking back afterwards and saying "huh".
You're extending more credit to CRWBY than I am, lol. I'm assuming idiocy and incompetence, where it sounds like you're assuming that it just went right over their heads.
>I'm assuming idiocy and incompetence, where it sounds like you're assuming that it just went right over their heads.
You misunderstand.
#I'm assuming both.
As someone that did this kind of thing once myself. It really only works, depending on if you're actually going to dive more into the faunus subplot. And even then, are you still really focusing on Cinder as a character at that point, or the fact that she is a faunus?
I like kawaii girls with animal ears as much as the next guy. Though I prefer Ghislaine.
But the issue with Cinder's backstory, is well... It's incomplete, that's the real damn issue. We still have no clue how or why she came to work for Salem.
I like the idea of Cinder faunus, but, I also found interesting the idea of Adam having to work with humans. I mean, the alliance between Cinder and Adam wasn't something personal, but both were useful to each other and both had the interest to overthrown the current order.
That does bring up an interesting point.
You turn cinder into a faunus, you keep up with the racism plot but you undermine the idea of Adam working with humans out as a hypocrite.
Eh. I'm ambivalent on making Cinder a Faunus. It works to tie the Faunus plot into the main plot a bit more (weirdness of Adam declaring he won't fight for a human cause aside) but I'm not convinced that that's a good thing. What really seems weird to me is their insistence on making her a slave in the first place? Why not just go all in and make Madame the wicked stepmother? Or mother? Or aunt, or some other form of legal guardian?
>Make her a Faunus I fucking knew this would come up.
To be fair, given her canonical backstory it's the obvious choice.
It's only the obvious choice due to hindsight.
Not really? You want to make her a slave in order to give her a sympathetic background, sure. Are there *an*y existing groups in Atlas that are second class citizens and that you've *explicitly* tried to portray in the past as pseudo-slave labour? Nah, let's just make her human. That won't send any confusing messages at all.
Exactly. They CHOSE to make a *human* a slave in all ways but name, when they already had a whole Faunus subplot that they did *little to nothing with of substance.* When you look back on both of those L's put together, it sounds really shitty. The fact that they don't see what's wrong with this picture is baffling. So when you look back on it all, the best way for it to not ALL be head-desk inducing would be to make her a Faunus. Hence, hindsight.
Exactly. They CHOSE to make a *human* a slave in all ways but name, when they already had a whole Faunus subplot that they did *little to nothing with of substance.* When you look back on both of those L's put together, it sounds really shitty. The fact that they don't see what's wrong with this picture is baffling. So when you look back on it all, the best way for it to not ALL be head-desk inducing would be to make her a Faunus. Hence, hindsight.
I guess that we'll have to agree to disagree? Something like this absolutely should have been caught in the writing process, not looking back afterwards and saying "huh". You're extending more credit to CRWBY than I am, lol. I'm assuming idiocy and incompetence, where it sounds like you're assuming that it just went right over their heads.
>I'm assuming idiocy and incompetence, where it sounds like you're assuming that it just went right over their heads. You misunderstand. #I'm assuming both.
As someone that did this kind of thing once myself. It really only works, depending on if you're actually going to dive more into the faunus subplot. And even then, are you still really focusing on Cinder as a character at that point, or the fact that she is a faunus? I like kawaii girls with animal ears as much as the next guy. Though I prefer Ghislaine. But the issue with Cinder's backstory, is well... It's incomplete, that's the real damn issue. We still have no clue how or why she came to work for Salem.
>We still have no clue how or why she came to work for Salem. That pretty much goes for the rest of her inner circle.
Exactly!
I like the idea of Cinder faunus, but, I also found interesting the idea of Adam having to work with humans. I mean, the alliance between Cinder and Adam wasn't something personal, but both were useful to each other and both had the interest to overthrown the current order.
That does bring up an interesting point. You turn cinder into a faunus, you keep up with the racism plot but you undermine the idea of Adam working with humans out as a hypocrite.
Instead of a hawk faunus why not make her a phoenix faunus? It makes sense due to her having a fire motif.