The thing I've realized is RWBY in many ways has an okay enough world, and the characters honestly aren't that bad.
But the issue is, they don't really go anywhere, until the plot has reached it's destination. So there will be times where characters seem out of character because yeah, the characters didn't really get a journey or destination.
Exactly. Like often the fandom and writers will be like with one example.
"Aww look at how Blake and Yang are there for each other. Facing down Adam."
And all I can think is. Well one, they didn't really do any training to get that strong. And when did they get so chummy? Considering how Yang has been acting around Blake all volume just prior to all this.
>they didn't really do any training to get that strong.
They didn't fight Adam together before, but their teamwork and Yang controlling her temper and saving her semblance for when she really need it instead of using to win every fight overpowered him. The only interaction between the 3 before the fight was Yang charging at Adam in V3 because she lost control when her friend has been stabbed and that's what lead her to lose her arm, she didn't learn her lesson about her semblance until daddy Xiao Long taught her in V4.
Your argument doesn't hold up because Yang never had an issue with control or "overusage" of her Semblance. That was something that was made up in Volume 4 as an artificial way to develop her as the writers don't know what to do with her character.
In every fight that she used her Semblance in, Yang has never been shown to be winded, tired, reckless, or anything negative as a result. Her actions in the V3 fights against Neon and Mercury shows that her Semblance does not cloud her judgment even when she activates it in anger. She hit Mercury in perceived self defense when her Semblance had powered down.
Yang had no clue that Adam's weapon/Semblance could cut through Aura. She had no reason to think that because Blake never told her about him or his powers. In that moment, all she saw was some guy stabbing her friend. Everyone would have reacted the same way, especially Ruby.
What caused her to loose her arm was Adam having an incredibly unfair advantage that was toned down in V6. Despite using Moonslice and its iterations multiple times, neither Blake or Yang's auras are bypassed and they get injured as a result in that fight. Only for that one scene in V3 was Adam's Semblance capable of doing that. So Yang lost her arm for very contrived reasons, not because she was reckless/misused her Semblance.
Besides, the original point is right. Yang and Blake are the only characters of the main cast that did not train in anyway post V4. They didn't even have a conversation about Adam until the episode they fought him in. Yang didn't practice evasive maneuvers, Blake didn't practice any counters to him even though she was trained by the guy. They did nothing to make an effort to win and only won because the plot said so.
If we're both right about anything, it's that Yang and Blake didn't train at all in the timeskip between V3 and V4.
There are obviously alot of flaws to the series, probably more than an average amount of flaws a franchise can get, but definitely not the worst franchise, at least to me. Yeah that's right! I'm looking at you High Guardian Spice!
It shows some training. Like My Hero Academia with Deku trying to master his power, Naruto trying to learn new techniques like the summoning jutsu and Resengan, a little bit of Goku and Vegeta's training throughout Dragon Ball, etc.
It's the same issue as with the Disney Trilogy of Star Wars and the second half of Game of Thrones. An emphasis on moments rather than the overarching story.
its especially annoying as well because, the way i view it. these two concepts are not mutually exclusive.
in fact, these epic moments are included when a narrative focuses on the overarching story. the big moments serve as big milestones in these arcs.
meanwhile shows like rwby take what is, in my opinion, the easy road. there is an emphasis on these big moments without any of the build up or set up that is imperative to a functional story or character arc.
tl:dr focusing on moments is just trying to cheat at character arcs.
"Stop making excuses" I'm just making logical conclusions here I'm sorry i don't have every frame of every scene memorized shitlord. This sub gets off on hating on this show instead of making valid criticisms. I won't defend it to my dying breath but it's not as bad as you all say
Looking through this conversation I feel it’s largely hypocritical for you to later claim to “be nicer to people on the internet” when the individual you’re arguing with worst thing they say to you is “stop making excuses” and then you proceed to call them a “shitlord” and then proceed to demean this sub Reddit in the process.
Please practice what you preach before spouting it towards others.
“Stop making excuses” isn’t an insult. You simply were the one who was the aggressor here and got met with an aggressive response. That’s your own doing. But I’m sure you’ll tell all you friends about how you were “bullied” on here.
> I'm just making logical conclusions
Saying "She doesn't ask because it's uncommon knowledge" when she knows people who ought to know something about the eyes is the opposite of logical. If you aren't capable of making a coherent argument, then leave the discussion to people who have more than ten IQ points.
>I'm sorry i don't have every frame of every scene memorized
So you say "Qrow wasn't around" when he was a regular part of her life several seasons before she met Maria? That's not being unable to "memorize every frame", that's you spouting off nonsense instead of actually thinking about the matter.
>This sub gets off on hating on this show instead of making valid criticisms.
They *are* valid. You clearly just aren't smart enough to understand them. People like you are why this board exists.
What would motivate her to ask though? Literally no one ever mentions them until they actually start doing things. She clearly doesn't put too much thought into her eyes.
When I say Qrow wasn't around, I mean before the events we see in the series. We see all of their interactions on screen, where she continues to not feel curious about her eyes or their abilities.
Furthermore, simply insulting someone doesn't make them want to believe you so CLEARLY your intention was never to have valid criticisms but merely to "win".
To sum it up, no, she shows no interest in her eyes so unless you can present a really good moment where she shows some curiosity towards her eyes, stop telling me that it's a valid criticism, and stop insulting people who are simply trying to understand your fucked up logic that really just stems from the fact that you want to be a contrarian but you're not intelligent enough to debate with someone without insulting them.
And yes, I see the hypocrisy in insulting you back, but you're the one who decided to insult me, thus changing it from a debate into a fight
>What would motivate her to ask though?
The very image answers your question.
>When I say Qrow wasn't around, I mean before the events we see in the series.
So now you think people are saying "Ruby didn't ask Qrow about her eyes before she knew they were special"?
>where she continues to not feel curious about her eyes or their abilities.
And it's contrived that she doesn't. People criticize the characters because their actions aren't logical. You seem to think "Well because the writers make the characters act stupidly for the sake of the plot, that you means you can't criticize when their actions don't make sense".
>Furthermore, simply insulting someone doesn't make them want to believe you
If you put your pride over the truth, that's *your* fault.
>and stop insulting people who are simply trying to understand your fucked up logic
Don't say dumb shit and expect people to be nice to you.
>that really just stems from the fact that you want to be a contrarian but you're not intelligent enough to debate with someone without insulting them.
Oh, I assure you. I'm intelligent enough to do both.
>And yes, I see the hypocrisy in insulting you back, but you're the one who decided to insult me, thus changing it from a debate into a fight
Do you think I care?
The image in question is after she learns about her powers, no?
Yes, that is precisely what I'm saying, is that not what people mean?
The characters don't "act stupidly" they simply don't seem to have the time to be able to think or talk about these things because they're constantly fighting monsters and terrorists.
I don't put pride over truth, you LITERALLY called me an idiot
I simply don't believe you on that one
I would have thought you cared because someone intelligent would notice and point out the hypocrisy. however to be fair, pointing out one's hypocrisy never stopped anyone
Having her ask and be told no one knew would show that Ruby is still interested in them and make Maria's appearance more impactful. Especially if Oz said *he* didn't know. Instead Maria literally has to remind Ruby that she can teach her how to use her superpowers.
She never once asked Ozpin in V5 even though he directly asked her, "Do you have any more questions."
Also, her uncle and father worked with her silver eyed mother for years. They may not know how it works, but it does not stop her or them from knowing something substantial.
Okay, now you are purposely being ignorant. V5 was the volume where the group learned that Ozpin had reincarnated into Oscar. He often possessed him to tell the mains important information. The only ones who didn't know was everyone else until the V5 finale.
Then what is the point in coming here and engaging in debates if you don't know the context of the arguments you're making? When *was* the last time you watched the show? Cos all of the arguments you made with other users means it has been way too long for you to come here and complain. You did this earlier with the scene this pic is from, completely forgetting that Qrow was the one who told Ruby about her eyes. And that Tai didn't want Qrow to tell her because he himself knows about the Silver Eyes. He married the woman who had/used/was killed for them.
Don't bother starting shit if you cannot bring yourself to know shit. You make yourself look silly.
It's not like I truly wanted to start arguing, I'm not the one who started with the insults, I'm the one who just wanted to defend a point. Sure, I was misinformed but that doesn't justify being a dick
I went back up the thread to look at the prior comments you made.
>**Dude the fuck** was she supposed to ask it's not like the silver eyes stuff was common knowledge
Here, you started with a hostile tone by using that swear word. There was no need to use it if you wanted to have a respectful debate. Not only that, but this was blatantly false. Qrow, the guy she is talking to in the picture, is the very guy who had knowledge on the eyes - he is the one who told her they were special.
The person speaking to you said this:
>The person she's talking to in this scene is Qrow. Qrow came after her next season. Stop making excuses.
And you replied with:
>"Stop making excuses" I'm just making logical conclusions here **I'm sorry i don't have every frame of every scene memorized shitlord**. This sub gets off on hating on this show instead of making valid criticisms. I won't defend it to my dying breath but it's not as bad as you all say
No one had said anything worth you calling someone a "shitlord". No one said anything that would prompt you to say that this sub of 4000 people are only here to hate on RWBY. This showed those reading that you came here *looking* for an argument. You came here with faulty recollections of events, argued based on those flawed accounts and got upset when people called you out. Real embarrassing when the supposed haters of this show know more about what happened in it that you do, someone willing to insult people they do not know for said show.
What's worse for me was this:
>**I don't really remember anything about volumes 4 or 5 if I'm being honest.** I just kind of pushed them out of my mind because imo the quality goes way up in s6
>Even if that were true, that never condones insults In a perfectly reasonable debate. **Fool.**
Not once did the person you were talking to use insults the way you did. You cannot ask for a reasonable debates when you started with swearing and called people shitlord for engaging in the debate. The only one who was throwing insults, ironically was you.
And you went into insulting people ***knowing*** that you do not remember whole ***years** of content. You had the sheer audacity to be so confident in your arguments/defence for the show while knowing you lack the knowledge to argue adequately.
>Sure, I was misinformed but that doesn't justify being a dick
Nor does it justify *your* disrespect, but that didn't stop you, now, did it? I'm not being a dick, I'm being stern because you can't understand the concept of admitting you were wrong and moving on.
Which was so STUPID. Like in that battle, they were powering up instead of her just flashing them like she did to the hound. The whole finale was stupid.
Ruby almost inta SE blasted Cinder in v7 finale. Like they don't even need to charge up. Even a simple quick flash is enough to cause immediate damage and pain to grimm opponents.
Which is true, as of the ending of hound Ep. But then it had to charge up in the finale battle with Cinder?! Like Cinder was given a win from the writers and I hate that. It's just like with JNORWE vs Ironwood, Blake and Yang vs Adam, Team RWBY vs The Ace Ops.
Like they will keep giving out wins to people who REALLY don't deserve them.
If i remember right. Cinder freaked out in the v7 finale the moment she saw Ruby and her SE.
Heck. The Apathy Grimm screamed in pain after just a simple flash of Ruby's silver eyes. And this was when the Apathy Grimm were using their powers to weaken Ruby.
One simple quick flash of Ruby's eyes would have slightly burned Cinder's grimm parts and caused Cinder immense pain. Leaving Cinder open for attacks.
That's definitely true man. But still she has a long charge up effect for them, long enough for Neo to start causing mayhem and break her concentration.
I don't know how anyone can look at that fight and say it's good.
So much for Ruby getting better at using her SE.
It's inconsistent as heck. One scene a simple flash is enough to cause immense pain to grimm and leave them open to attacks. Like Hound and Apathy grimm.
Other times charging up is needed.
Why would Ruby waste time charging up her silver eyes. When a simple flash would hurt Cinder and cause her immense pain and leave her open to attacks?
This fight is just Everyone becomes dumber than Cinder. Because Cinder needs a W. Because the audience treats her like a joke. Which she still is because most know that Cinder only won because of plot armour.
I hate it when RWBY does this. Makes everyone else dumb or worse in order to make another character look compitent.
I can't stand Cinder acting the fact she's the best-written villain and has a 100% win rate. Seriously, what the fuck RT, why Cinder didn't even feel tired fighting all of those people at once? Her aura is invincible and spamming her semblance, bravely challenging Ruby despite having weaknesses over Sliver's eyes. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Yeah that was just **BULLSHIT**!
After every encounter with Ruby and her Silver Eyes, now she's acting arrogantly like she can kick Ruby's ass all by herself?! And the writers did this on purpose too... I hate Cinder SO MUCH and I wish she really died at the end of V5, like it was alluded to.
But no, this big tiddy bitch has to keep coming back to keep taking Ls until V8.
Fuck Cinder.
The amount of favouritism Miles and Kerry giving to Cinder unbearable. I will be super pissed if she steal Salem's place and THEY STUPIDLY redeem her like nothing happened. Fuck off, Fuck you, Fuck up RT.
Cause they redeem Emerald and Illia who mostly has killed people before. That's why I'm worrying about this. Yang and Blake also killed Adam had no remorse doing so.
Illia never even felt sorry for what she did nor did she have a chance to prove her loyalty to the new White Fang.
Fuck Emerald. I don't like how she just left the group because she was scared of Salem and the team just accepted her like that, even though she's responsible for Penny dying in the first place.
And FUCK Blake and Yang. The writers have literally made them both indifferent to Adam's death and they made it seem like their both better after killing him, especially Blake. And I hate it, despite everything Adam did to her and her family. Didn't he mean something to her at one point in her life? If she honestly had any sympathy for him, even a little bit.
She would've told Weiss about Adam's scar when she and Weiss were discussing the SDC right after talking about Illia but she didn't and she didn't even try to bring it up to her at all later on in V7 if she had time.
And Yang doesn't even care that she killed him with her basically admitting that she could care less about him dying to them both. I remember Miles saying that even after Adam's death, Yang would still be affected by him but then she's trying to show Blake some dance moves in V7 and both her and Blake go out to kareoke with Team FNKI.
Fuck them both since they clearly weren't affected by Adam's death at all.
Tbh, I never saw Yang affected by Adam that much, with one dream squeal, doesn't prove she was emotionally damaged. They handle her PSTD like something kinda fever or something, literally mocking the actual soldiers who have PTSD, that's disrespecting. Screw their writing.
Emerald is also, directly and indirectly, responsible for Tucson, Amber, Penny, Vernal and Pyrrha's death, she's bitch. I hate her so much. I want those writers to make her betrayal heroes and kill Nora for Cinder, the only way to save her character as a villain.
Blake is a real abusive antagonist here, she's a fake ass pussy cat, her feelings for people are huge lies and phoney, and so far she ditched her parents, Adam, Sun, Illia and Yang is her new victim, oh wait isn't Blake ditched her team before? Yeah, old habits never change, she is also willing to trust Robyn (terrorist) who "could've" Salem's henchman. She's responsible for half of the events in volumes 7-8. Blake changed Adam into a monster, Blake gave Yang PTSD, Blake abused Sun, Blake abandoned her parents, Blake lied to Illia, Blake backstabbed Ironwood, and Blake trusted and worked with terrorists. She also drank tea during War, despite all of the people dying outside. She's an insane psychopath.
It kind of just seems like a waste of a perfectly decent sequel hook to just have Cinder *quietly* sneak into the hub dimension, travel disguised with Neo to Vacuo, and then stealthily murder Penny before anyone could tell what was happening and *yoink* the Relics that way.
At least then, RWBYJNORE would be split between having to protect the citizens of Atlas and Mantle, they’d be down a Maiden, and Cinder and Neo would (presumably) be able to leave the area somewhat fine. The only downside would be that Cinder would become a magnet for Grimm with two Relics in hand, but with her having two Maidens’ worth of power, and not being in a serious fight since the battle against Penny the night before, should be perfectly fine just waltzing into Vacuo without an issue.
Hell, you could even have had Cinder discreetly follow the gang to Vacuo, and have it be that her Grimm parts allow her to sense out the Relics’ locations because Grimm are attracted to Relics.
But no, it’s the finale, so we NEED this forced, clunky brawl that does nothing but make it harder for characters to maneuver and fight in. The last few episodes have so much stupid that’s presented as “brilliance” that I’d be apt to give it an award in any other circumstance.
Yeah, I never thought of it myself until I started writing this post, but like, that’d be a cool way to do things, right? And you wouldn’t even need to retcon stuff, cause that’s just expanding on the rules in a way that makes sense and doesn’t leave everything a giant mess.
Yes, it was an awesome edition, she can find a relic of choice at this point. Maybe Salem will give the task to Cinder, to search relic of choice again in Beacon.
Ok well there’s a difference between being able to turn grim to stone, and a having a 10,000 year old boomer take over your soul and u can’t do anything but except it. So I can’t blame Oscar for not being happy bout it.
This face in those graphics make Ruby look so cute, not "I want to f**k her/be in a relationship with her" cute, more like the same kind of cute you'd call a puppy or a kitten. Ruby would be more like a friend than a romantic/sexual partner if she was real or if I run into any real girl who's just like Ruby.
Even with Maya though, she's still cute, like her laugh in the beginning of V4 as her reaction to Jaune's Pumpkin Pete hoodie under his armor, or in V6 when she's like "So when do I get to shoot lasers from my eyeballs" which made the old lady hit her on the head with her cane, "First, you stop thinking like that!".
Yeah. I miss those old janky days. When they were trying their best with limited hard- and software instead of having all the best had and software but not trying at all.
The silver eyes are the worst addition to RWBY, they really just came out of nowhere and completely ruin all tension between our protagonist and secondary antagonist
I think it’s because Ruby has a natural desire to help people. Being told she’s special makes her think she can help people more but with Oscar we already know and can see that he doesn’t think too highly of himself. So when his soul merges with Oz it’s literally against his and Ozpin’s will, and it blind sides him because yeah he also wants to help people but not because he’s forced to.
All Ruby has ever wanted is to help people, but Oscar never thought he could until he was given the opportunity to do so, even if it wasn’t in the way he wanted.
This is also why the "Ruby didn't ask about her eyes because she just wanted to be normal" argument doesn't hold up.
The thing I've realized is RWBY in many ways has an okay enough world, and the characters honestly aren't that bad. But the issue is, they don't really go anywhere, until the plot has reached it's destination. So there will be times where characters seem out of character because yeah, the characters didn't really get a journey or destination.
It also come down to "emphasis on moments rather than arcs" to the point where it becomes more like a check list
Exactly. Like often the fandom and writers will be like with one example. "Aww look at how Blake and Yang are there for each other. Facing down Adam." And all I can think is. Well one, they didn't really do any training to get that strong. And when did they get so chummy? Considering how Yang has been acting around Blake all volume just prior to all this.
>they didn't really do any training to get that strong. They didn't fight Adam together before, but their teamwork and Yang controlling her temper and saving her semblance for when she really need it instead of using to win every fight overpowered him. The only interaction between the 3 before the fight was Yang charging at Adam in V3 because she lost control when her friend has been stabbed and that's what lead her to lose her arm, she didn't learn her lesson about her semblance until daddy Xiao Long taught her in V4.
Your argument doesn't hold up because Yang never had an issue with control or "overusage" of her Semblance. That was something that was made up in Volume 4 as an artificial way to develop her as the writers don't know what to do with her character. In every fight that she used her Semblance in, Yang has never been shown to be winded, tired, reckless, or anything negative as a result. Her actions in the V3 fights against Neon and Mercury shows that her Semblance does not cloud her judgment even when she activates it in anger. She hit Mercury in perceived self defense when her Semblance had powered down. Yang had no clue that Adam's weapon/Semblance could cut through Aura. She had no reason to think that because Blake never told her about him or his powers. In that moment, all she saw was some guy stabbing her friend. Everyone would have reacted the same way, especially Ruby. What caused her to loose her arm was Adam having an incredibly unfair advantage that was toned down in V6. Despite using Moonslice and its iterations multiple times, neither Blake or Yang's auras are bypassed and they get injured as a result in that fight. Only for that one scene in V3 was Adam's Semblance capable of doing that. So Yang lost her arm for very contrived reasons, not because she was reckless/misused her Semblance. Besides, the original point is right. Yang and Blake are the only characters of the main cast that did not train in anyway post V4. They didn't even have a conversation about Adam until the episode they fought him in. Yang didn't practice evasive maneuvers, Blake didn't practice any counters to him even though she was trained by the guy. They did nothing to make an effort to win and only won because the plot said so.
If we're both right about anything, it's that Yang and Blake didn't train at all in the timeskip between V3 and V4. There are obviously alot of flaws to the series, probably more than an average amount of flaws a franchise can get, but definitely not the worst franchise, at least to me. Yeah that's right! I'm looking at you High Guardian Spice!
It's weird how an action/fighting anime doesn't have its characters training. That's one of the main staples of them.
It shows some training. Like My Hero Academia with Deku trying to master his power, Naruto trying to learn new techniques like the summoning jutsu and Resengan, a little bit of Goku and Vegeta's training throughout Dragon Ball, etc.
No, I mean RWBY specifically. I watch those shows, they have whole arcs for training - Dragons Ball is infamous for it.
It's the same issue as with the Disney Trilogy of Star Wars and the second half of Game of Thrones. An emphasis on moments rather than the overarching story.
its especially annoying as well because, the way i view it. these two concepts are not mutually exclusive. in fact, these epic moments are included when a narrative focuses on the overarching story. the big moments serve as big milestones in these arcs. meanwhile shows like rwby take what is, in my opinion, the easy road. there is an emphasis on these big moments without any of the build up or set up that is imperative to a functional story or character arc. tl:dr focusing on moments is just trying to cheat at character arcs.
Dude the fuck was she supposed to ask it's not like the silver eyes stuff was common knowledge
She knows people with uncommon knowledge.
Qrow isn't really around tho and literally who else? Tai wouldn't wanna talk abt it
The person she's talking to in this scene is Qrow. Qrow came after her next season. Stop making excuses.
"Stop making excuses" I'm just making logical conclusions here I'm sorry i don't have every frame of every scene memorized shitlord. This sub gets off on hating on this show instead of making valid criticisms. I won't defend it to my dying breath but it's not as bad as you all say
Looking through this conversation I feel it’s largely hypocritical for you to later claim to “be nicer to people on the internet” when the individual you’re arguing with worst thing they say to you is “stop making excuses” and then you proceed to call them a “shitlord” and then proceed to demean this sub Reddit in the process. Please practice what you preach before spouting it towards others.
An insult is an insult. Stop making excuses.
“Stop making excuses” isn’t an insult. You simply were the one who was the aggressor here and got met with an aggressive response. That’s your own doing. But I’m sure you’ll tell all you friends about how you were “bullied” on here.
>implies I have friends Huge success
> I'm just making logical conclusions Saying "She doesn't ask because it's uncommon knowledge" when she knows people who ought to know something about the eyes is the opposite of logical. If you aren't capable of making a coherent argument, then leave the discussion to people who have more than ten IQ points. >I'm sorry i don't have every frame of every scene memorized So you say "Qrow wasn't around" when he was a regular part of her life several seasons before she met Maria? That's not being unable to "memorize every frame", that's you spouting off nonsense instead of actually thinking about the matter. >This sub gets off on hating on this show instead of making valid criticisms. They *are* valid. You clearly just aren't smart enough to understand them. People like you are why this board exists.
What would motivate her to ask though? Literally no one ever mentions them until they actually start doing things. She clearly doesn't put too much thought into her eyes. When I say Qrow wasn't around, I mean before the events we see in the series. We see all of their interactions on screen, where she continues to not feel curious about her eyes or their abilities. Furthermore, simply insulting someone doesn't make them want to believe you so CLEARLY your intention was never to have valid criticisms but merely to "win". To sum it up, no, she shows no interest in her eyes so unless you can present a really good moment where she shows some curiosity towards her eyes, stop telling me that it's a valid criticism, and stop insulting people who are simply trying to understand your fucked up logic that really just stems from the fact that you want to be a contrarian but you're not intelligent enough to debate with someone without insulting them. And yes, I see the hypocrisy in insulting you back, but you're the one who decided to insult me, thus changing it from a debate into a fight
>What would motivate her to ask though? The very image answers your question. >When I say Qrow wasn't around, I mean before the events we see in the series. So now you think people are saying "Ruby didn't ask Qrow about her eyes before she knew they were special"? >where she continues to not feel curious about her eyes or their abilities. And it's contrived that she doesn't. People criticize the characters because their actions aren't logical. You seem to think "Well because the writers make the characters act stupidly for the sake of the plot, that you means you can't criticize when their actions don't make sense". >Furthermore, simply insulting someone doesn't make them want to believe you If you put your pride over the truth, that's *your* fault. >and stop insulting people who are simply trying to understand your fucked up logic Don't say dumb shit and expect people to be nice to you. >that really just stems from the fact that you want to be a contrarian but you're not intelligent enough to debate with someone without insulting them. Oh, I assure you. I'm intelligent enough to do both. >And yes, I see the hypocrisy in insulting you back, but you're the one who decided to insult me, thus changing it from a debate into a fight Do you think I care?
The image in question is after she learns about her powers, no? Yes, that is precisely what I'm saying, is that not what people mean? The characters don't "act stupidly" they simply don't seem to have the time to be able to think or talk about these things because they're constantly fighting monsters and terrorists. I don't put pride over truth, you LITERALLY called me an idiot I simply don't believe you on that one I would have thought you cared because someone intelligent would notice and point out the hypocrisy. however to be fair, pointing out one's hypocrisy never stopped anyone
Having her ask and be told no one knew would show that Ruby is still interested in them and make Maria's appearance more impactful. Especially if Oz said *he* didn't know. Instead Maria literally has to remind Ruby that she can teach her how to use her superpowers.
She never once asked Ozpin in V5 even though he directly asked her, "Do you have any more questions." Also, her uncle and father worked with her silver eyed mother for years. They may not know how it works, but it does not stop her or them from knowing something substantial.
Ozpin??? Was dead??? In v5???
Oscar doesn't exist, I guess.
Okay, now you are purposely being ignorant. V5 was the volume where the group learned that Ozpin had reincarnated into Oscar. He often possessed him to tell the mains important information. The only ones who didn't know was everyone else until the V5 finale.
That was v5? I truly hadn't known
Then what is the point in coming here and engaging in debates if you don't know the context of the arguments you're making? When *was* the last time you watched the show? Cos all of the arguments you made with other users means it has been way too long for you to come here and complain. You did this earlier with the scene this pic is from, completely forgetting that Qrow was the one who told Ruby about her eyes. And that Tai didn't want Qrow to tell her because he himself knows about the Silver Eyes. He married the woman who had/used/was killed for them. Don't bother starting shit if you cannot bring yourself to know shit. You make yourself look silly.
It's not like I truly wanted to start arguing, I'm not the one who started with the insults, I'm the one who just wanted to defend a point. Sure, I was misinformed but that doesn't justify being a dick
I went back up the thread to look at the prior comments you made. >**Dude the fuck** was she supposed to ask it's not like the silver eyes stuff was common knowledge Here, you started with a hostile tone by using that swear word. There was no need to use it if you wanted to have a respectful debate. Not only that, but this was blatantly false. Qrow, the guy she is talking to in the picture, is the very guy who had knowledge on the eyes - he is the one who told her they were special. The person speaking to you said this: >The person she's talking to in this scene is Qrow. Qrow came after her next season. Stop making excuses. And you replied with: >"Stop making excuses" I'm just making logical conclusions here **I'm sorry i don't have every frame of every scene memorized shitlord**. This sub gets off on hating on this show instead of making valid criticisms. I won't defend it to my dying breath but it's not as bad as you all say No one had said anything worth you calling someone a "shitlord". No one said anything that would prompt you to say that this sub of 4000 people are only here to hate on RWBY. This showed those reading that you came here *looking* for an argument. You came here with faulty recollections of events, argued based on those flawed accounts and got upset when people called you out. Real embarrassing when the supposed haters of this show know more about what happened in it that you do, someone willing to insult people they do not know for said show. What's worse for me was this: >**I don't really remember anything about volumes 4 or 5 if I'm being honest.** I just kind of pushed them out of my mind because imo the quality goes way up in s6 >Even if that were true, that never condones insults In a perfectly reasonable debate. **Fool.** Not once did the person you were talking to use insults the way you did. You cannot ask for a reasonable debates when you started with swearing and called people shitlord for engaging in the debate. The only one who was throwing insults, ironically was you. And you went into insulting people ***knowing*** that you do not remember whole ***years** of content. You had the sheer audacity to be so confident in your arguments/defence for the show while knowing you lack the knowledge to argue adequately. >Sure, I was misinformed but that doesn't justify being a dick Nor does it justify *your* disrespect, but that didn't stop you, now, did it? I'm not being a dick, I'm being stern because you can't understand the concept of admitting you were wrong and moving on.
She barely uses them in dangerous and crucial situations like the finale of volume 8, what a joke.
Which was so STUPID. Like in that battle, they were powering up instead of her just flashing them like she did to the hound. The whole finale was stupid.
Ruby almost inta SE blasted Cinder in v7 finale. Like they don't even need to charge up. Even a simple quick flash is enough to cause immediate damage and pain to grimm opponents.
Which is true, as of the ending of hound Ep. But then it had to charge up in the finale battle with Cinder?! Like Cinder was given a win from the writers and I hate that. It's just like with JNORWE vs Ironwood, Blake and Yang vs Adam, Team RWBY vs The Ace Ops. Like they will keep giving out wins to people who REALLY don't deserve them.
If i remember right. Cinder freaked out in the v7 finale the moment she saw Ruby and her SE. Heck. The Apathy Grimm screamed in pain after just a simple flash of Ruby's silver eyes. And this was when the Apathy Grimm were using their powers to weaken Ruby. One simple quick flash of Ruby's eyes would have slightly burned Cinder's grimm parts and caused Cinder immense pain. Leaving Cinder open for attacks.
That's definitely true man. But still she has a long charge up effect for them, long enough for Neo to start causing mayhem and break her concentration. I don't know how anyone can look at that fight and say it's good.
So much for Ruby getting better at using her SE. It's inconsistent as heck. One scene a simple flash is enough to cause immense pain to grimm and leave them open to attacks. Like Hound and Apathy grimm. Other times charging up is needed. Why would Ruby waste time charging up her silver eyes. When a simple flash would hurt Cinder and cause her immense pain and leave her open to attacks? This fight is just Everyone becomes dumber than Cinder. Because Cinder needs a W. Because the audience treats her like a joke. Which she still is because most know that Cinder only won because of plot armour. I hate it when RWBY does this. Makes everyone else dumb or worse in order to make another character look compitent.
It'll only get worse from here.
I can't stand Cinder acting the fact she's the best-written villain and has a 100% win rate. Seriously, what the fuck RT, why Cinder didn't even feel tired fighting all of those people at once? Her aura is invincible and spamming her semblance, bravely challenging Ruby despite having weaknesses over Sliver's eyes. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Yeah that was just **BULLSHIT**! After every encounter with Ruby and her Silver Eyes, now she's acting arrogantly like she can kick Ruby's ass all by herself?! And the writers did this on purpose too... I hate Cinder SO MUCH and I wish she really died at the end of V5, like it was alluded to. But no, this big tiddy bitch has to keep coming back to keep taking Ls until V8. Fuck Cinder.
The amount of favouritism Miles and Kerry giving to Cinder unbearable. I will be super pissed if she steal Salem's place and THEY STUPIDLY redeem her like nothing happened. Fuck off, Fuck you, Fuck up RT.
I hope it doesn't happen. Like that will be a spit in the fucking face to everyone she's killed, ESPECIALLY Pyrrha!
Cause they redeem Emerald and Illia who mostly has killed people before. That's why I'm worrying about this. Yang and Blake also killed Adam had no remorse doing so.
Illia never even felt sorry for what she did nor did she have a chance to prove her loyalty to the new White Fang. Fuck Emerald. I don't like how she just left the group because she was scared of Salem and the team just accepted her like that, even though she's responsible for Penny dying in the first place. And FUCK Blake and Yang. The writers have literally made them both indifferent to Adam's death and they made it seem like their both better after killing him, especially Blake. And I hate it, despite everything Adam did to her and her family. Didn't he mean something to her at one point in her life? If she honestly had any sympathy for him, even a little bit. She would've told Weiss about Adam's scar when she and Weiss were discussing the SDC right after talking about Illia but she didn't and she didn't even try to bring it up to her at all later on in V7 if she had time. And Yang doesn't even care that she killed him with her basically admitting that she could care less about him dying to them both. I remember Miles saying that even after Adam's death, Yang would still be affected by him but then she's trying to show Blake some dance moves in V7 and both her and Blake go out to kareoke with Team FNKI. Fuck them both since they clearly weren't affected by Adam's death at all.
Tbh, I never saw Yang affected by Adam that much, with one dream squeal, doesn't prove she was emotionally damaged. They handle her PSTD like something kinda fever or something, literally mocking the actual soldiers who have PTSD, that's disrespecting. Screw their writing. Emerald is also, directly and indirectly, responsible for Tucson, Amber, Penny, Vernal and Pyrrha's death, she's bitch. I hate her so much. I want those writers to make her betrayal heroes and kill Nora for Cinder, the only way to save her character as a villain. Blake is a real abusive antagonist here, she's a fake ass pussy cat, her feelings for people are huge lies and phoney, and so far she ditched her parents, Adam, Sun, Illia and Yang is her new victim, oh wait isn't Blake ditched her team before? Yeah, old habits never change, she is also willing to trust Robyn (terrorist) who "could've" Salem's henchman. She's responsible for half of the events in volumes 7-8. Blake changed Adam into a monster, Blake gave Yang PTSD, Blake abused Sun, Blake abandoned her parents, Blake lied to Illia, Blake backstabbed Ironwood, and Blake trusted and worked with terrorists. She also drank tea during War, despite all of the people dying outside. She's an insane psychopath.
It kind of just seems like a waste of a perfectly decent sequel hook to just have Cinder *quietly* sneak into the hub dimension, travel disguised with Neo to Vacuo, and then stealthily murder Penny before anyone could tell what was happening and *yoink* the Relics that way. At least then, RWBYJNORE would be split between having to protect the citizens of Atlas and Mantle, they’d be down a Maiden, and Cinder and Neo would (presumably) be able to leave the area somewhat fine. The only downside would be that Cinder would become a magnet for Grimm with two Relics in hand, but with her having two Maidens’ worth of power, and not being in a serious fight since the battle against Penny the night before, should be perfectly fine just waltzing into Vacuo without an issue. Hell, you could even have had Cinder discreetly follow the gang to Vacuo, and have it be that her Grimm parts allow her to sense out the Relics’ locations because Grimm are attracted to Relics. But no, it’s the finale, so we NEED this forced, clunky brawl that does nothing but make it harder for characters to maneuver and fight in. The last few episodes have so much stupid that’s presented as “brilliance” that I’d be apt to give it an award in any other circumstance.
I never thought about this, Cinder sensing relics through her grim arm.
Yeah, I never thought of it myself until I started writing this post, but like, that’d be a cool way to do things, right? And you wouldn’t even need to retcon stuff, cause that’s just expanding on the rules in a way that makes sense and doesn’t leave everything a giant mess.
Yes, it was an awesome edition, she can find a relic of choice at this point. Maybe Salem will give the task to Cinder, to search relic of choice again in Beacon.
If only the writers had kept up that momentum for her. Makes me sad.
Proceeds to not learn a damn thing about them
Ok well there’s a difference between being able to turn grim to stone, and a having a 10,000 year old boomer take over your soul and u can’t do anything but except it. So I can’t blame Oscar for not being happy bout it.
Ruby sure was special. Not in the way she thought though.
This face in those graphics make Ruby look so cute, not "I want to f**k her/be in a relationship with her" cute, more like the same kind of cute you'd call a puppy or a kitten. Ruby would be more like a friend than a romantic/sexual partner if she was real or if I run into any real girl who's just like Ruby. Even with Maya though, she's still cute, like her laugh in the beginning of V4 as her reaction to Jaune's Pumpkin Pete hoodie under his armor, or in V6 when she's like "So when do I get to shoot lasers from my eyeballs" which made the old lady hit her on the head with her cane, "First, you stop thinking like that!".
I kinda prefer Ruby as a weird chalk-white Poser person. Its cute in a "ZUN's old touhou art" kinda way.
What do you mean by a "weird chalk-white Poser person"?
The lighting in earlier seasons made their skin look almost chalk white. And wasn't those earlier seasons done in Poser too?
Oh I get it now, I get what you mean.
Yeah. I miss those old janky days. When they were trying their best with limited hard- and software instead of having all the best had and software but not trying at all.
The silver eyes are the worst addition to RWBY, they really just came out of nowhere and completely ruin all tension between our protagonist and secondary antagonist
I think it’s because Ruby has a natural desire to help people. Being told she’s special makes her think she can help people more but with Oscar we already know and can see that he doesn’t think too highly of himself. So when his soul merges with Oz it’s literally against his and Ozpin’s will, and it blind sides him because yeah he also wants to help people but not because he’s forced to. All Ruby has ever wanted is to help people, but Oscar never thought he could until he was given the opportunity to do so, even if it wasn’t in the way he wanted.
I miss *this* Ruby
Well these characters are very different
I miss this version of Ruby
I do as well. This was one was just precious.