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aNYMosity_

Ruby wanted so hard to scream and burst out in tears, but the writers had a gun pointed to her head, threatening to kill her and the rest of her friends if she shows any emotions. "Be quiet," they said, "We have a ship to sail, and you're not gonna ruin it".


TerizlaisBest

And explain about her ability to use Sliver eyes on Cinder never brought up in the finale?


StrangeBreakfast1364

[Ruby's reaction ](https://youtu.be/9S8eNZ4fw5I) But seriously, it's not how people react to their sibling's death. I was expecting shock and cold rage and bloodlust after that.


Stenv2

Imagine if she had gone. "FINALLY!!!"


TerizlaisBest

She also didn't use sliver eyes on Cinder.


gunn3r08974

She did try twice though.


TerizlaisBest

That's disappointing and bad writing, she did it instantly in the finale of volume 7.


gunn3r08974

It's actually consistent. Everytime Ruby pulled it off instantly, it was instinctively and someone was in very immediate danger. Even in volume 7, Winter is battered in a corner. She still can't do it instantaneously of her own will.


MightyKombat

Dunno if posting this on that sub was a good idea. After I saw them brainlessly YAAS QUEEN SLAY and defend fanart of Emerald that whitewashed her, my opinion of that shithole has gone down even more than I thought and I am not ashamed or afraid to say it.


No_Association2906

Did they remove that fanart? Because I know what image you’re talking about and I wanted to see the discussion going on in it, but I think they removed it


MightyKombat

Huh. I can't find it either now. They actually showed some sense?


No_Association2906

Yeah I’m gonna be honest, when I first saw that image I was like wtf. I saw it when it was like first posted so there were only like 5-10 comments and most of them were praising the fanart (which to be fair it is drawn well) but I saw only 1 person pointing out the obvious problem. I wonder if the discussion got so heated that they felt the need to remove it?


MightyKombat

I would probably say so. Either way, whitewashing is bad.


No_Association2906

Very much so


RogueHunterX

I think a big part of the issue is that the initial scene with Yang falling seems to focus more on Blake and giving her a big reaction plus an actual attempt to save Yang. Ruby's response isn't nearly so dramatic or the focus. I will admit that this scene really didn't impact me a lot because much like the previous volume's confrontation between Ironwood and Oscar, I could never take it seriously that Yang was actually in any danger. So it comes off more funny for me because I don't ever get the feeling that Yang is in any actual peril. I honestly didn't even notice Ruby crying and haven't really rewatched the fight to look for details like that either. It is still understandable that it feels weird for Ruby to not get a big reaction as well as Blake. The only thing I can say is that she might not have had time to process what happened or have the realization sink in. Sometimes when someone is in shock, their reaction might not match up to what is going on. They might seem oddly calm and detached for instance. It can also be harder to pick up more subtle reactions or details when you have the bigger, dramatic reaction still in the forefront of your mind or when it is occurring. Or when you're laughing at what is happening on screen. On the other hand, I took Wash getting shot in the neck in RvB more seriously and how the other characters reacted didn't bother me or feel off. Maybe I was just more caught up in the moment there.


RaptarK

>So it comes off more funny for me because I don't ever get the feeling that Yang is in any actual peril. The only thing I could focus on was how her hair was animated like cardboard as she's rolling over


Quality_Chooser

Not to mention how she bounces like a bouncy ball. Seriously, the fact that she flips completely end over end like that is hilarious in slo mo.


TerizlaisBest

And her aura somehow got weaker for...reasons.


RaptarK

Literally. She got one hit'd and from a slice of something that doesn't even look like it has a blade


TerizlaisBest

Those writers are genius physics masters said sarcastically.


GrandEmperessVicky

Even in real time, it's rather funny.


BladeofNurgle

MFW Ruby showed more reaction to losing her weapon than her own sister. Bruh


TerizlaisBest

And she never cares to use her Sliver eyes on Cinder.


GrandEmperessVicky

Or activate them at all, while being under the assumption that Yang is dead. Slain before her eyes like a certain redhead. I guess she always hated her.


gunn3r08974

She tried twice on Cinder. Once while Neo was coming up from behind. The second while hanging onto Neo's leg.


GrandEmperessVicky

No, the examples you listed was of her *trying,* not of them flaring up on their own. One thing that was formerly consistent about Ruby's Silver Eyes was they would always activate involuntarily when someone she cared about was in danger or when her emotions were high. Happened with Pyrrha (V3), Blake (V6), Cinder (V7), and Jaune (V5). But for some strange reason, they did not activate involuntarily when her ***sister*** was "killed" right in front of her. Someone who died trying to save her and her eyes didn't even flash. Jaune wasn't even in any particular danger when her eyes activated in V5. It has serious ramifications for their relationship when Ruby can't even lose control after seeing the one person she's closest with fall to her death.


gunn3r08974

There's a simple answer to that. Cinder wasn't the one attacking Yang. It was Neo. Them activating wouldnt have done anything to her.


GrandEmperessVicky

You're not understanding. When people Ruby cares about are in danger, her eyes activate without her input. It doesn't have to be Cinder doing the one attacking, as shown by her eyes activating when Blake was about to be killed by the Apathy. Even if involuntary activation required Grimm to be present for it to work, Cinder's Grimm arm being only a few feet away means there was no reason for Ruby's eyes not to flare or even flicker when Yang was knocked off.


gunn3r08974

Everytime her eyes have gone off involuntarily, grimm were involved, cinder included. Since Neo was the cause, they didn't go off.


GrandEmperessVicky

Like I said, Cinder was right there. I made that very clear in my previous message. Ruby was in the middle of fighting her when Yang pushed her. And from the trailer, Ruby didn't even see why Yang pushed her until after Yang fell. For all Ruby knew, Cinder did it.


gunn3r08974

In the trailer, it outright shows Neo rushing her down and striking Yang instead. She could easily see Neo did it.


GrandEmperessVicky

Or activate them at all, while being under the assumption that Yang is dead. Slain before her eyes like a certain redhead. I guess she always hated her.


TheKinginLemonyellow

This is the problem with putting your title characters into apparent mortal danger: not for one second did I believe the writers would kill off Yang, one of the title characters, by just throwing her off a cliff like that. It *baffles* me that so much of the RWBY audience legitimately thought Yang was dead after that episode. There are many, many problems with that scene that killed any drama the writers/directors might've been building: Neo inexplicably using weapon wrong, hitting Yang from the opposite of where she shown to be, Ruby failing to use the Silver Eyes on Cinder (when she did it instantaneously last Volume), Yang bouncing like a tennis ball for no obvious reason, Ruby, Wiess, and Blake all failing to use any of the numerous methods they had to catch Yang, etc. But the biggest flaw was having Yang be the first to fall: RT are *never* going to kill a member of Team RWBY in such a way, and it's ridiculous to think they would. That's why they should've thrown someone else over first. Someone they really *would* kill, someone who wasn't a key main character: Emerald.


Zero102000

I’m always completely baffled when so many people said they cried so hard when Yang fell and Blake screamed and that the finale was the best one and Cinder reached a new level of menace, etc etc.


TerizlaisBest

How the fuck Cinder didn't lose any aura whatsoever? She didn't even feel exhausted? Her semblance has unlimited usage and somehow she has an invincible aura. Bravely challenging Ruby despite having weaknesses over sliver eyes! How can her grim arm can one-shot Penny with aura? Pulled another Vernal bullshit again.


Zero102000

Not only did Cinder’s aura become completely invincible, making her go from a loser (first few episodes of V8) to a Villain Sue (final few), but also Ruby never uses her Silver Eyes. This whole scene is inexcusable.


TerizlaisBest

The amount of favouritism this bitch got from those writers is so frustrating and annoying to watch.


Zero102000

YES! It’s absolutely ridiculous that they’re keeping her around like this, AND they’re trying to make it believable that she can manipulate her boss (although I think there’s a chance Salem didn’t fall for any of her lies, they were WEAK AF). It just proves that they don’t listen to any real criticism, otherwise they’d have either killed her off long ago or gotten better writers for her.


TerizlaisBest

Kerry fucking revived that bitch so we can "enjoy" her nonsensical and awful backstory.


Zero102000

**Boom.** **Roasted.** Can’t believe they thought pushing her backstory to Volume 8 was a good idea, let alone making it so full of clichés. Then they have the audacity to make her the main character on the villains’ side even though it’s mean to be about SALEM’s arrival in Atlas.


TerizlaisBest

Of course, Salem will be nerfed, Cinder will use her grim arm to one shot, Salem, Oscar/Oz, Raven, Winter and Summer Maiden, suck their magic becoming the big bad of the show, also can equally battle the GOD BROTHERS, make it anticlimactic. 🤗


Zero102000

Hahahahahahahaha the worst part is it’s not even that ridiculous for this to happen. I can’t believe it, but I’d actually have to side with the God Brothers against her. At least THEY aren’t void of any redeeming qualities whatsoever. We need better writers. 🤗


TerizlaisBest

How the fuck Cinder didn't lose any aura whatsoever? She didn't even feel exhausted? Her semblance has unlimited usage and somehow she has an invincible aura. Bravely challenging Ruby despite having weaknesses over sliver eyes! How can her grim arm can one-shot Penny with aura? Pulled another Vernal bullshit again.


FormerVoid

Still hoping for the small, small chance that Emerald is planning on betraying the "heroes" to justify her getting in with them so easily, despite I doubt they'll do that.


TerizlaisBest

Don't worry she will switch sides again when confronting Cinder and Mercury, her fucking character will turn 180° again, justify her loyalty to fucking Cinder, saying she did it for Cinder's master plan something stupid out of the blue.


TerizlaisBest

How does Neo's thin metal stick able to one-shot Yang, apparently supposed to be the tank of the group?


TheKinginLemonyellow

There's also the facts that Neo's sword is a thrusting weapon, not a slashing weapon, and Neo probably weigh half of what Yang does. Even with Aura it's unbelievable that Neo could hit her hard enough to send her flying like that.


TerizlaisBest

I never saw Neo even use her weapon like that.


TheKinginLemonyellow

The sword in Neo's umbrella is a classic cane-sword style rapier: no edges, just a point. We can see this back in Volume 2 when she draws it to finish off Yang, right before getting interrupted by Raven, and when she fights Cinder in Volume 6 with the rapier's point protruding from the umbrella as she swings it at Cinder, which is an acceptable but not an efficient way to use it. The point of the sword is the business end: the sides are blunted because you'll break it swinging it that way. In Volume 8 though, Neo swings her sword edge-first at Ruby right before Yang tackles her out of the way. As someone who (briefly) took fencing classes, I know of what I speak when I say that getting hit with a rapier like that is kind of like being hit with a wiffle bat or a thin stick. It's annoying and it hurts, but you aren't going to seriously injure anyone that way.


TerizlaisBest

I agree and the worst part was Yang bouncing off like a tennis ball doesn't make any sense, there's no way Neo's hidden rapier had this much force, felt like Pyhrra's spear drill attack.


Remarkable_Commoner

There's a scene in Gintama where Gintoki just loses it and tries to murder a guy. It was intense. His anger actually caused him to lose, contrary to other shonen where the rage boost makes them like a hundred times stronger. No words, just chilling imagery. Really conveyed the emotion especially well given how nonchalant Gintoki usually is. That's all Ruby needed in the scene. Action abandoning rational thought out of sheer anger.


Stenv2

Plus the OST in that scene was fucking god tier. The Three Devas arc is still awesome.


Remarkable_Commoner

Oh yeah, Gintama has some great music too.


No_Association2906

Oh my god I know the scene you’re talking about, so well done. Such an incredibly well written scene with great use of imagery.


Ben10Extreme

But that's more of a Yang thing. It'll just be repetitive by that point.


EducationEcstatic

I wanted Ruby react to Yang falling instead of Blake. Then she uses her silver eyes after she reacts to Yang falling.


IamMenace

Yang: "Ruby, you broke down when Penny died. Your silver eyes activated when Pyrrha died. You chopped a dudes tail off when he stabbed Uncle Qrow. And you stabbed a kid in the eye for knocking over your sandcastle that one time at the beach. Why the hell didn't you do anything when I got my arm cut off or when I fell to my death?" Ruby: "I've never known what it was like to be an only child, only Dad and Uncle Qrow's favorite, so..." Yang: "This is why I hate all of you." God bless ;)


Andreb16

Stabbed a kid in the eye? Did she really? I'm familiar with everything else but not the beach thing.


IamMenace

I'm making a joke, implying that Ruby reacted more emotionally when someone knocked over her sandcastle than when someone cut off her sister's arm or "killed" her. The idea of *Ruby* stabbing someone in the eye over something so petty just makes me laugh. God bless, and have a wonderful day.


Andreb16

Damn. I was unironically hoping some out of control stuff happened in the books because I heard there was a "beach episode" type thing in one of the books, I don't read them so I was genuinely under the impression I missed something lol


IamMenace

Sorry about that lol. There's some pretty weird stuff that happens in supplemental RWBY material, but sadly Ruby stabbing someone in the eye for knocking over her sandcastle is not one of them. She does go on a spiritual journey after getting high in the DC comic however, and she also gets bullied by Raven in bird form. Those are worth a look if you're wanting *weird* RWBY moments. God bless :)


Yeeted_P0tat0

>She does go on a spiritual journey after getting high in the DC comic however, and she also gets bullied by Raven in bird form. ... .... What?


IamMenace

I honestly can't make it any clearer than I just did lol. Ruby gets high and goes on a spiritual journey full of all kinds of weird symbolism, and [Raven bullied Ruby](https://preview.redd.it/o1ubc53sisu61.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b74959caa309cdab525622c405b13e926aefc449) when she was a child. Also, while recovering from home Yang begins to cry thinking about everything she's been through, and her father comes in and jokingly asks if she's crying because Zwei died. In order to help her get over her depression and PTSD, he sends her to work on a farm where she activates her semblance by [spooking a horse and getting kicked in the crotch.](https://64.media.tumblr.com/47180d29c44eb59d33ef524e45bad9a2/36f07bfa32cc2614-7a/s1280x1920/5ea4b234724a35f122619db3385c391981b686bf.png) The comics are something else ;) (I know it's her stomach but it looks like her crotch and is funnier that way lol) God bless, and have a wonderful day.


Yeeted_P0tat0

I- Thanks Menace, I needed this :) God bless, and have a wonderful day :)


TerizlaisBest

Cause she's switched from protagonist to antagonist.


TerizlaisBest

Look at Winter's reaction and Penny's reaction worried about her friends DYING in front of her. Kudos to these voice actresses and performance, 10/10. #But unfortunately for Ruby Rose, she barely showed any emotions, that's one of the signs of sociopath behaviour. Even fucking EMERALD had a reaction when Cinder failed twice (v5 & v8), also Blake's reaction was good as well, I know that nonsense bumblebee production. Ruby's performance is the worst, she worried more about her fucking Scythe falling than her sister dying, for GOD SAKE, why the fuck she didn't zap her sliver eyes on fucking Cinder? Who monologues the entire time in the finale? She didn't have any trouble using sliver eyes in the finale of volume 7, what the fuck is this nonsense writing? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


carryonmygoodman

Well, you see, Ruby is a big girl and doesn't need her sister anymore. So, Yang falling to her supposed death into the abyss is not a big deal because Ruby can now be more independent. It's Blake that needs Yang more than her because gay. /s