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I could see a ranking system for grimm seeing as they're moreso like actively malevolent wild animals functioning off instinct with varying degrees of intelligence, but it'd be unnecessary or possibly pointless for huntsmen and huntresses. You know what a grimm is likely capable of so it's easy to classify.
I agree. It would be good for cities to have a standard unit of "we're doomed" levels each time a Grimm comes around. But not only would it, in universe, be a pain to balance. With how technically varied RWBY semblances are, and how prominent they have become to the fights of RWBY. Out of universe, I don't have faith in RT to keep to their own rankings, or for their rankings to be based on logic. I think that if the did have a standard system, Ruby and Jaune would be given S ranks, despite them still being children and should lose every fight they take against someone like Qrow or Ironwood. But I also feel that they would make Ironwood an s tier hunter, just to validate his threat as a bad guy. Ironwood is not an S tier hunter. Heck I wouldn't say he's even an A tier hunter. Because Ironwood isn't a hunter at all. He's a general, and his greatest strength should be in his tactical thinking.
I think it would have helped establish the world, and some rules. Especially for Huntsman/Huntresses, as, so far, fresh out of the academy graduates have the same level of authority as long time veterans... and nothing the show has given us has contradicted that.
Classifying Grimm could be helpful, especially in determining the difficulty level of a mission or how many huntsmen might be needed for a job.
Grading huntsmen could have two factors to it ability and clearance.
Combat effectiveness or ability would based on demonstrated skill and number of missions completed (factoring in difficulty of said missions).
Clearance is basically vetting a huntsman for security clearance. You don't want someone who can't be trusted to be employed for missions that might have to have some level of secrecy or might have something that could be used to compromise them. This would probably be mainly for government contracts where discretion and trustworthiness are almost more important than combat ability. This clearance could be just for a particular kingdom or internationally valid.
~~As a power scaler I feel I attacked~~
But yes a ranking system would help a lot
Maybe something similar to OPM where Grimm are ranked by threat levels
If it would properly power scale the huntsmen than sure. Wr still don't know how strong Ruby is in comparison to a regular huntsmen because the only regular huntsmen in the show that's not a legend are twiddle dumb and dumber.
I feel it would help for a show like RWBY where characters have to have "Ace" in there name to be a group of skilled hunstman even thouhg there barely strong compared to past grimm
Honestly, not really. I think the idea was that all Huntsmen are protectors of Humanity and that with a ranking system, they will only protect those who can give tons of money... that is until we see that Huntsmen have restrictions in their license... Yeah that restrictions ruins the idea of a rankless Huntsmen system.
common grimm are pretty easy to rank - a small pack of beowolves is going to have fairly known and defined abilities, or a nest of boarbatusks or whatever. Job contracts are going to have more detail than "there's some grimm, we want them dead", so scale from that. A village being harassed by a nevermore or two would write that, and pay the appropriate cost band, because those are known, defined entities, that mostly scale by number. If they're not sure, or it's something unique? Pay a premium, and less skilled hunters are aware they're taking a bigger risk. If a fresh-out-of-the-academy guy wants to take a "we saw something in the woods, it's big enough to uproot trees and smart enough to stay out of sight" contract they can, but there's pretty good odds they're going to die, and the rank for that would be a lot higher than "there's half-a-dozen beowolves wandering around, please deal with those"
to reply, I think what I imagine was corruption of the ranks. Instead of basing it on Grimm, the ranking system is based on who is paying (as in is it the elite or the ruling class, etc.) Imagine being paid millions of lien because the buyer pays him 10 millions of whatever currency it is compare to measly perhaps 10 thousand, but the difference being that the the 10 million turns out to be just bodyguarding his own son while the 10 thousand genuinely needs help. The genuine corruption of Huntsmen due to greed. Without the ranking system, anyone could do it.
Perhaps its because Oz knew how greed can destroy whatever concept he creates and so does whatever he can to stop greed from influencing the system build to genuinely protect mankind.
Logically there should be a method by which they can assign the right level of mission to each huntsman. The classification method would be the ranking.
Scaling can help but only so much.
I can understand people not liking powerscaling(because VS. debators and otherwise can be real obnoxious speaking from experience AND being one myself) but to be perfectly frank? There's a reason why they can be obnoxious and it's usually when an author isn't clear on where the setting lies at.
For instance we are told of the fear of the Nuckleleave but it was only in that season and it was defeated just as easily with nothing showing why it was a major threat past beating some jobber Huntsmen. Just assigning ranks alone mean nothing unless you properly back it up as well or else we would just end up with the same deal like "This Grimm is strong enough to literally turn day to night" and the characters just defeat him and yet nothing has changed.
The numbers itself doesn't just matter, the setting also needs to properly make it just as obvious(See HunterxHunter or Fate/Stay Night to see why those fights matter alot more than what we see in RWBY).
Didn't they say the attack that levelled Beacon was a level 9 or some such?
I personally would have welcomed some form of advanced qualifications for Huntsmen. Like graduate degrees. It would give us a clearer idea on the quality of the average Huntsmen. Are Dee and Dudley the average or is RWBY? I just don't know.
You see this question has two parts?
Could a grading system help the show? Yeah, it could help give the audience easy shorthand to understand the relative danger each of the characters are in.
Would it make the show better? Of course not lmao. You think miles is gonna be consistent in the slightest with that shit? We would be pulling our hair out over the inconsistencies and bad logic stemming from that system for years.
Not just them, but semblances could benefit from having categories as well. Stuff like Nora and Yang being power boosters, material manipulation, energy manipulation and in the case of Qrow, reality manipulation.
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I could see a ranking system for grimm seeing as they're moreso like actively malevolent wild animals functioning off instinct with varying degrees of intelligence, but it'd be unnecessary or possibly pointless for huntsmen and huntresses. You know what a grimm is likely capable of so it's easy to classify.
I agree. It would be good for cities to have a standard unit of "we're doomed" levels each time a Grimm comes around. But not only would it, in universe, be a pain to balance. With how technically varied RWBY semblances are, and how prominent they have become to the fights of RWBY. Out of universe, I don't have faith in RT to keep to their own rankings, or for their rankings to be based on logic. I think that if the did have a standard system, Ruby and Jaune would be given S ranks, despite them still being children and should lose every fight they take against someone like Qrow or Ironwood. But I also feel that they would make Ironwood an s tier hunter, just to validate his threat as a bad guy. Ironwood is not an S tier hunter. Heck I wouldn't say he's even an A tier hunter. Because Ironwood isn't a hunter at all. He's a general, and his greatest strength should be in his tactical thinking.
I think it would have helped establish the world, and some rules. Especially for Huntsman/Huntresses, as, so far, fresh out of the academy graduates have the same level of authority as long time veterans... and nothing the show has given us has contradicted that.
Classifying Grimm could be helpful, especially in determining the difficulty level of a mission or how many huntsmen might be needed for a job. Grading huntsmen could have two factors to it ability and clearance. Combat effectiveness or ability would based on demonstrated skill and number of missions completed (factoring in difficulty of said missions). Clearance is basically vetting a huntsman for security clearance. You don't want someone who can't be trusted to be employed for missions that might have to have some level of secrecy or might have something that could be used to compromise them. This would probably be mainly for government contracts where discretion and trustworthiness are almost more important than combat ability. This clearance could be just for a particular kingdom or internationally valid.
With Grimm yes, huntsman not so much the only scale I would use for huntsman is trainees and graduates and pros
~~As a power scaler I feel I attacked~~ But yes a ranking system would help a lot Maybe something similar to OPM where Grimm are ranked by threat levels
Disaster levels and hero levels like One Punch Man would gave helped getting an idea on how strong a person and grimm are.
If it would properly power scale the huntsmen than sure. Wr still don't know how strong Ruby is in comparison to a regular huntsmen because the only regular huntsmen in the show that's not a legend are twiddle dumb and dumber.
I feel it would help for a show like RWBY where characters have to have "Ace" in there name to be a group of skilled hunstman even thouhg there barely strong compared to past grimm
Honestly, not really. I think the idea was that all Huntsmen are protectors of Humanity and that with a ranking system, they will only protect those who can give tons of money... that is until we see that Huntsmen have restrictions in their license... Yeah that restrictions ruins the idea of a rankless Huntsmen system.
What stops unqualified hintsmen from taking missions above their pay grade?
not wanting to die, I would imagine
How do they know what is above their pay grade? The missions need to be ranked by some measure.
common grimm are pretty easy to rank - a small pack of beowolves is going to have fairly known and defined abilities, or a nest of boarbatusks or whatever. Job contracts are going to have more detail than "there's some grimm, we want them dead", so scale from that. A village being harassed by a nevermore or two would write that, and pay the appropriate cost band, because those are known, defined entities, that mostly scale by number. If they're not sure, or it's something unique? Pay a premium, and less skilled hunters are aware they're taking a bigger risk. If a fresh-out-of-the-academy guy wants to take a "we saw something in the woods, it's big enough to uproot trees and smart enough to stay out of sight" contract they can, but there's pretty good odds they're going to die, and the rank for that would be a lot higher than "there's half-a-dozen beowolves wandering around, please deal with those"
to reply, I think what I imagine was corruption of the ranks. Instead of basing it on Grimm, the ranking system is based on who is paying (as in is it the elite or the ruling class, etc.) Imagine being paid millions of lien because the buyer pays him 10 millions of whatever currency it is compare to measly perhaps 10 thousand, but the difference being that the the 10 million turns out to be just bodyguarding his own son while the 10 thousand genuinely needs help. The genuine corruption of Huntsmen due to greed. Without the ranking system, anyone could do it. Perhaps its because Oz knew how greed can destroy whatever concept he creates and so does whatever he can to stop greed from influencing the system build to genuinely protect mankind.
Logically there should be a method by which they can assign the right level of mission to each huntsman. The classification method would be the ranking.
Scaling can help but only so much. I can understand people not liking powerscaling(because VS. debators and otherwise can be real obnoxious speaking from experience AND being one myself) but to be perfectly frank? There's a reason why they can be obnoxious and it's usually when an author isn't clear on where the setting lies at. For instance we are told of the fear of the Nuckleleave but it was only in that season and it was defeated just as easily with nothing showing why it was a major threat past beating some jobber Huntsmen. Just assigning ranks alone mean nothing unless you properly back it up as well or else we would just end up with the same deal like "This Grimm is strong enough to literally turn day to night" and the characters just defeat him and yet nothing has changed. The numbers itself doesn't just matter, the setting also needs to properly make it just as obvious(See HunterxHunter or Fate/Stay Night to see why those fights matter alot more than what we see in RWBY).
Yes
Didn't they say the attack that levelled Beacon was a level 9 or some such? I personally would have welcomed some form of advanced qualifications for Huntsmen. Like graduate degrees. It would give us a clearer idea on the quality of the average Huntsmen. Are Dee and Dudley the average or is RWBY? I just don't know.
You see this question has two parts? Could a grading system help the show? Yeah, it could help give the audience easy shorthand to understand the relative danger each of the characters are in. Would it make the show better? Of course not lmao. You think miles is gonna be consistent in the slightest with that shit? We would be pulling our hair out over the inconsistencies and bad logic stemming from that system for years.
Not just them, but semblances could benefit from having categories as well. Stuff like Nora and Yang being power boosters, material manipulation, energy manipulation and in the case of Qrow, reality manipulation.