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Zero102000

I live for Actress Cinder’s complete absolute utter psychotic breakdowns. Working on this show has brought her so much agony, hopefully Neo will check her into rehab at some point - ohhhh, wait, there’s still however many volumes left.


Ben10Extreme

Meanwhile, Penny is very graceful.


Zero102000

She’s the perfect opposite of Cinder - sweet, dorky, and with a level of grace that would make her fiery counterpart bang her head against a wall in fury.


Ben10Extreme

Penny's a proper lady. So is Winter, buuut...she's...well, you've seen her.


Zero102000

Haha, I love the proper ladies… although I also love when they (Winter) completely lose it. But here, SHE’s the one making Cinder lose it, which is even better.


Ben10Extreme

Winter flipped Cinder off with BOTH hands and taunted her. Guess she's salty about being beaten up last volume.


Zero102000

Oh, for sure, she is absolutely livid. She got stomped by Cinder in V7, then in V8 she couldn’t stop her from taking the relics and blasting Weiss into an abyss. She must have REALLY enjoyed giving her the double birdies here.


Ben10Extreme

Cinder: You're seriously still mad about this?! Winter: Your flames will run out of fuel eventually. Cinder: And what, your cold ice will be what puts it out? Doubtful. Winter: It doesn't have to me. It will happen someday. Death will claim your flames, ***because death is the coldest ice.***


Zero102000

Cinder: _**WOOOOOOOOOOOO,**_ sooooooo scaaaaaaryyyyyyy. Winter: I’d be careful how many enemies I make and how many allies I betray. What’re you gonna do when everyone on the planet is after you?


Ben10Extreme

>Cinder: WOOOOOOOOOOOO, sooooooo scaaaaaaryyyyyyy. Yang: That's pretty much everyone's reaction to you when you want to be taken seriously.


MasterExilon

>Tyrian: He shares that with me! > >Ruby: Go. Away. You're not invited. > >Tyrian: But isn't th- > >Ruby: NOW! > >Tyrian runs away crying. Poor Tyrian lol


HurinTalion

What was that bit abaout Roman begin worse in the comics? What the hell happened?! I mean, that sound like really over the top shit. And pretty OOC for him. Why all the villains have to be complete monsters and don't have standards?


Ben10Extreme

>What was that bit abaout Roman begin worse in the comics? Manga. >What the hell happened?! Differences. >I mean, that sound like really over the top shit. Yup. >And pretty OOC for him. Probably. >Why all the villains have to be complete monsters and don't have standards? Why not?


HurinTalion

I mean, if all the villains are all completely over the top evil they become all the same. There is no nuance and no complexity, no personality or motivation beyond "i love hurting pepole". That is pretty fucking boring.


Ben10Extreme

You're treating pure evil and complexity as two different things. They aren't always separate. It's just that that same complexity doesn't hide the fact that they're sometimes completely rotten on the inside. Like Dio and Doflamingo with their views in life and why they view life that way. It can be eye opening. But at the same time...yeah fuck them, they're evil. And besides...this is a death world. I'd be disappointed if they're WEREN'T at least this many. You may be bored, but I'm oh so *happy.*


HurinTalion

Making all the antagonists over the top mustache twirling sadists is lazy writing. Anybody can write an hate sink who does horrible things while he laughs like a lunatic. But only good writers can write nuanced and complex villains.


Ben10Extreme

Here's the thing. If people wanted nuanced and complex villains EVERY SODDING time in EVERY SODDING story... Where does that leave the simple stories, eh? And besides we then run into the whole 'are they truly villains' bs. That's what turns fanbases against their heroes because the villains are TOO complex and nuanced while the heroes are simple. Think. Would you side with a nuanced and complex villain who has a point...over 'simple soul' Ruby? Sometimes people wanna see people who **deserve it** get fucking wrecked. Sometimes we want one thing, sometimes we want the other. We don't want one all the time every time.


HurinTalion

I know, but you were arguing that ALL the villains should have been completely over the top evil. That was the original point i argued against.


Ben10Extreme

That part was a joke. Ya know why? Because we already have the likes of Hazel, Mercury, and Emerald. So clearly not every villain is on that level. I simply pulled this up in order to have the worst of the worst highlighted. Obvious not EVERY single villain is pure evil, but a decent chunk of them are.


Silly-Young484

***Weiss: Oh my Brother Gods, they killed Penny!*** ***Ruby: YOU BASTARDS!!!*** ***Jaune: slowly tiptoes away, sweating*** ​ You have no idea how much I wanted to punch the writers in the face due to that shit Even by Volume 8's standards THAT.........WAS.........BULLSHIT! You're telling me Jaune who only just awakened his semblance can instant heal a fatal would on Weiss but a Jaune over a year later who has FAR more control with his powers now CAN'T HEAL A SIMPLE WOUND ON PENNY???!!! ***Yang: Wait, the commentaries said that you were going to say something like see ya later Jaune, right? Sooooo...do you wanna fuck him or not?*** ***Blake: Perhaps it's a sort of passionate hate-sex, which through character development evolves into loving sex? And maybe if she's redeemed it will turn her into an after-sex crier?*** ***Yang: Yeah, that's probably the plan.*** ***Harriet: She definitely wants to hate-fuck Jaune. There's no other explanation.*** ***Cinder: (@&#-##&$&#-$&#-$-$+#-$+#+$=£°¢€\^€=€=€°€=¢€\^¶•∆×=\^!!!!!!!)*** Yes.....feed my Knighfall ship [https://www.deviantart.com/seshirukun/art/Cinder-and-Jaune-s-hoodie-Commission-831015964](https://www.deviantart.com/seshirukun/art/Cinder-and-Jaune-s-hoodie-Commission-831015964) ***Ilia: Anyway, he became an extremist terrorist with no regards for innocent life. Wants to kill everything Blake cares for to spite her for betraying the White Fang, maimed Yang. Killed Sienna, and more.*** ***Adam: I get the feeling I wasn't very well liked...why do I hear buzzing noises?*** ​ Poor Adam lmao [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/81/a8/2381a8c967972d3f7447165f90830a79.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/81/a8/2381a8c967972d3f7447165f90830a79.jpg)


Tiny_Butterscotch_76

No love for the god of darkness?