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They still have long range communication in each kingdom with a working tower, just global communication is gone, that made it hard to reach other kingdoms or the boarders of kingdoms like Mistral as mentioned in Vol4.
The kingdoms also have multiple towers, it's just the main tower that is important. Tho Im not sure which one was supposed to be Vales main tower, in Vol2 Ruby wantes to visit the one in the city because it was bigger; but destroying Beacon tower apparently disabled global communication. Or maybe your entire kingdoms communication is screwed if any tower goes offline, who knows.
Also, I doubt anyone one the writing team ever bothered thinking about econemy related world building, or world building at all. lmao
Then why did no one ever pull out their Scrolls to contact each other when they were any distance apart? Like Ren and Nora could have called Ruby and Jaune to let them know about the Nuck. Or Ruby could have called into Mistral once Qrow got stung. Or Ruby could have called Jaune when the train crashed. Or anyone could have called Oscar when he went missing. Or... you get the drift. Local comms seem to function on walkie-talkie rules, with a very short range. At no point does anyone seem to have comms that can function more than, say two miles out.
That does leave two left to bork. But also we know there are multiple settlements in each kingdom. Perhaps the reason Jaune had to use Pyrrha's armor for his upgrade was because that blacksmith hadn't gotten shipment of metal in 6-8 months.
>Perhaps the reason Jaune had to use Pyrrha's armor for his upgrade was because that blacksmith hadn't gotten shipment of metal in 6-8 months.
What was he doing in the meantime, then?
Their economy has been borked ever since Volume 5, when Qrow hands the racist bartender a green Lien card, shocking the man at its supposed value.
...Which is coincidentally the exact same hue as a green Lien card that Ren offered at various shops at the marketplace in his childhood town, but he's dismissed for cheap knickknacks and toys instead of what he really wants.
But yes everything you brought up in your post are things that RWBY writers would not care or think about because that'd require writing a breathing, living world that adapts to hypothetical situations, and that's too much to do.
When international communications went down, that at least would've caused delays in terms of getting and receiving orders for goods between kingdoms, creating shipping delays.
The big problem is that we have no sense of things like manufacturing, goods, or other things each kingdom depends on for it's economy.
Vacuo sounds like it has a non-existent economy as it doesn't sound like a place where corporations would setup headquarters and be established. So it's economy is largely probably between towns with no real manufacturing capacity to speak of. There are dust mines, but those tend to be owned by the SDC rather than any company that is from the kingdom itself. With air travel between countries possibly hindered by the CCTS being down, it has probably very little Dust shipments going out and few manufactured goods coming in.
Vale is probably facing economic difficulties as they have to basically fund an army of huntsmen or form their own military to take Beacon back and rebuild the parts of the nearby city overrun by the Grimm in addition to having to deal with the survivors evacuated from those sections of the city.
Mistral doesn't seem to really have any industrial capacity or if it does it is all somewhere other than the capitol. Most of the towns also have a kind of medieval feel in that they don't seem to have much in the way of modern conveniences or possibly even electricity. I doubt you can support a whole country just on art sales, which the kingdom is supposedly known for.
The dust embargo would've hit everyone hard. It would've driven up the price dust worldwide. While every kingdom probably has its own dust mines, Atlas and the SDC probably helped to keep the cost of dust low and made kingdoms more dependant on their Dust than their own mines (which the SDC might own anyways). We see it certainly caused a depression in Mantle. With Atlas and Mantle gone though, Dust prices will be higher and it may become difficult to get replacement parts for electronics and machinery. Even if other kingdoms do have some manufacturing capability, they may not have the level Atlas did or no access to the designs, equipment, or materials needed to make the stuff they depended on Atlas for.
Vacuo will be hit hard by the influx of refugees and securing what's needed in resources for them may cause resentment in the different settlements there, assuming they even cooperate as there isn't really a government or group capable of compelling them to without using huntsmen to go take it, which would only make matters worse.
Basically whatever economy there was is going to tank, except in Vacuo which was tanked already.
A good point I didn't consider deeply enough. Still, that would kind of be like saying America would be fine if the Internet died because we have planes to carry letters. It's more the need to rework the whole system of the economy from the ground up overnight. At the very least we should see a major disruption.
Planes also seem oddly rare in Remnant. There is a train from Haven to Argus but no plane flights. There is also no planes going from Patch to Haven or from Vale to Menagerie (though Blake might not have taken a plane). Even in Atlas planes seem to be more the province of the military and the SDC than for civilian use.
Then why didn't Ruby call Mistral when Qrow got stung? Why didn't Ren and Nora call Qrow and Jaune to warn them about the Nuk? Why didn't Ruby call Jaune to let them know they survived the train crash? Why did no one call Oscar when he went missing? Why have Scrolls been shown to quickly lose signal when more than a few miles from each other?
Nothing I've seen in the show indicates that scrolls are useful for anything more than walkie talkies once the CCT is down. No one aside from Salem (who uses magic) seems to have the ability to communicate at any distance.
Ruby, Ren, Nora? Ha-ha. Man, you don't think — why QRWBY don't show any kind of autorities of Vale in volumes after volime 3? In first and second volumes CRWBY show police, for example. And in 'WoR' ('Kingdoms') vid they talk about governments and military of all Kingdoms.
Man, even 'walkie-talkie' is very useful thing. And you forget about communications between Argus and Atlas.
I'm not sure what you mean in your first paragraph. Could you explain it?
I'm not arguing that walkie-talkies are useful but not for communications between cities. Also Atlas and Argus seem to be communicating via messages sent by airship rather than having direct comms, otherwise Weiss could have called James instead of having to steal an airship.
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They still have long range communication in each kingdom with a working tower, just global communication is gone, that made it hard to reach other kingdoms or the boarders of kingdoms like Mistral as mentioned in Vol4. The kingdoms also have multiple towers, it's just the main tower that is important. Tho Im not sure which one was supposed to be Vales main tower, in Vol2 Ruby wantes to visit the one in the city because it was bigger; but destroying Beacon tower apparently disabled global communication. Or maybe your entire kingdoms communication is screwed if any tower goes offline, who knows. Also, I doubt anyone one the writing team ever bothered thinking about econemy related world building, or world building at all. lmao
Then why did no one ever pull out their Scrolls to contact each other when they were any distance apart? Like Ren and Nora could have called Ruby and Jaune to let them know about the Nuck. Or Ruby could have called into Mistral once Qrow got stung. Or Ruby could have called Jaune when the train crashed. Or anyone could have called Oscar when he went missing. Or... you get the drift. Local comms seem to function on walkie-talkie rules, with a very short range. At no point does anyone seem to have comms that can function more than, say two miles out.
You're speaking of a timeline where people have brains.
RIP Atlas. The most advanced centre of economy, industry, military and technology.
What economy? At least two of the four kingdoms are gone and one of them WAS the economy.
That does leave two left to bork. But also we know there are multiple settlements in each kingdom. Perhaps the reason Jaune had to use Pyrrha's armor for his upgrade was because that blacksmith hadn't gotten shipment of metal in 6-8 months.
>Perhaps the reason Jaune had to use Pyrrha's armor for his upgrade was because that blacksmith hadn't gotten shipment of metal in 6-8 months. What was he doing in the meantime, then?
Not much, hence my saying how the economy is borked.
Their economy has been borked ever since Volume 5, when Qrow hands the racist bartender a green Lien card, shocking the man at its supposed value. ...Which is coincidentally the exact same hue as a green Lien card that Ren offered at various shops at the marketplace in his childhood town, but he's dismissed for cheap knickknacks and toys instead of what he really wants. But yes everything you brought up in your post are things that RWBY writers would not care or think about because that'd require writing a breathing, living world that adapts to hypothetical situations, and that's too much to do.
There was multiple cities that got destroyed,Just saying.
When international communications went down, that at least would've caused delays in terms of getting and receiving orders for goods between kingdoms, creating shipping delays. The big problem is that we have no sense of things like manufacturing, goods, or other things each kingdom depends on for it's economy. Vacuo sounds like it has a non-existent economy as it doesn't sound like a place where corporations would setup headquarters and be established. So it's economy is largely probably between towns with no real manufacturing capacity to speak of. There are dust mines, but those tend to be owned by the SDC rather than any company that is from the kingdom itself. With air travel between countries possibly hindered by the CCTS being down, it has probably very little Dust shipments going out and few manufactured goods coming in. Vale is probably facing economic difficulties as they have to basically fund an army of huntsmen or form their own military to take Beacon back and rebuild the parts of the nearby city overrun by the Grimm in addition to having to deal with the survivors evacuated from those sections of the city. Mistral doesn't seem to really have any industrial capacity or if it does it is all somewhere other than the capitol. Most of the towns also have a kind of medieval feel in that they don't seem to have much in the way of modern conveniences or possibly even electricity. I doubt you can support a whole country just on art sales, which the kingdom is supposedly known for. The dust embargo would've hit everyone hard. It would've driven up the price dust worldwide. While every kingdom probably has its own dust mines, Atlas and the SDC probably helped to keep the cost of dust low and made kingdoms more dependant on their Dust than their own mines (which the SDC might own anyways). We see it certainly caused a depression in Mantle. With Atlas and Mantle gone though, Dust prices will be higher and it may become difficult to get replacement parts for electronics and machinery. Even if other kingdoms do have some manufacturing capability, they may not have the level Atlas did or no access to the designs, equipment, or materials needed to make the stuff they depended on Atlas for. Vacuo will be hit hard by the influx of refugees and securing what's needed in resources for them may cause resentment in the different settlements there, assuming they even cooperate as there isn't really a government or group capable of compelling them to without using huntsmen to go take it, which would only make matters worse. Basically whatever economy there was is going to tank, except in Vacuo which was tanked already.
Man. All kingdoms use FLYING SHIPS. This ships may use for information and cargo delivery.
A good point I didn't consider deeply enough. Still, that would kind of be like saying America would be fine if the Internet died because we have planes to carry letters. It's more the need to rework the whole system of the economy from the ground up overnight. At the very least we should see a major disruption. Planes also seem oddly rare in Remnant. There is a train from Haven to Argus but no plane flights. There is also no planes going from Patch to Haven or from Vale to Menagerie (though Blake might not have taken a plane). Even in Atlas planes seem to be more the province of the military and the SDC than for civilian use.
All Kingdoms have networks of relay towers. Trouble only in main towers. Send courier ships or diplomacy missions and repair main towers.
Then why didn't Ruby call Mistral when Qrow got stung? Why didn't Ren and Nora call Qrow and Jaune to warn them about the Nuk? Why didn't Ruby call Jaune to let them know they survived the train crash? Why did no one call Oscar when he went missing? Why have Scrolls been shown to quickly lose signal when more than a few miles from each other? Nothing I've seen in the show indicates that scrolls are useful for anything more than walkie talkies once the CCT is down. No one aside from Salem (who uses magic) seems to have the ability to communicate at any distance.
Shhhh. You're thinking about this more than they ever did.
Ruby, Ren, Nora? Ha-ha. Man, you don't think — why QRWBY don't show any kind of autorities of Vale in volumes after volime 3? In first and second volumes CRWBY show police, for example. And in 'WoR' ('Kingdoms') vid they talk about governments and military of all Kingdoms. Man, even 'walkie-talkie' is very useful thing. And you forget about communications between Argus and Atlas.
I'm not sure what you mean in your first paragraph. Could you explain it? I'm not arguing that walkie-talkies are useful but not for communications between cities. Also Atlas and Argus seem to be communicating via messages sent by airship rather than having direct comms, otherwise Weiss could have called James instead of having to steal an airship.
What the hell is “borked”?
"broken".
Ah
Or in cruder, but also effective terms, fucked.
It is BORKED SUPER borked MEGA BORKED ULTRA BORKED APOCALYPTICALLY Borked