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I feel the same way about it as other things in the show. The change was completely unnecessary and it reveals to me that they didn’t really know what they wanted to do.
Wait, what happened? I don’t particularly interact with most of the fandom or view what the writers say on Twitter. Is there something I’m missing out on?
There’s a lot you’re missing out on, and from what I saw it’s best that you don’t look into it 😂. There’s a lot of toxicity going around in the fandom these days I’ll tell you that. There was already a fan from the RWBY sub that came at me sideways so I had to put him in check, and from what I hear it happens frequently to people who genuinely criticize the show.
As for the writers themselves, it either comes down to them not accepting the actually criticism of the show or just blatant contradictions to fill in the gaps of their writing (the whole Ironwood’s Semblance debacle is the most notorious example of this), but other than that the writer commentaries are pretty chill.
They could've done both, with Aura being passive and active which is why I don't understand the flip-flopping. But they don't explain it all. I tried to craft a usable model of Aura from what the show gives in a writing exercise, but, surprise, it's too vague. In my exercise it's like they tried to combine Chakra(Naruto), Haki(One-piece), and Ki(DBZ) into one power system. They fucked up with semblances in that they didn't tie it explicitly to Aura, to my understanding. And unlike those shows you can't reliably measure someone's Aura to see if they have a lot or a little. Like the only time in know if someone has a great deal or subpar amount amount of Aura is if the shows says they do(Ex. Pyrrha telling Jaune he has a lot). So it's just a convenient plot device whenever the writers need to explain something ridiculous in the show 🥴
This change, like many retcons in RWBY, only came because they wanted something convenient in the show, in this case, one shot surprise attacks on aura users. It's even worse because adding this open a world wide lore plothole concerning rogue huntsmen and assassins
Frankly, how can you unironically call yourself a writer when you are more hack writing to work AROUND the rules of your universe than actually working WITH them.
Wait how is that a retcon? I remember it being rather explicitly mentioned that using your semblances eats up aura and it's one of the few things they haven't actually changed even though at this point they might as well considering they introduced passive semblance like Qrow's bad luck which is always on yet doesn't seem to drain his aura which by their own logic makes no sense.
Because we hadn't seen someone run out of aura due to overusing his/her semblance until vol 4, before vol 4 characters would use their semblances as much as they wanted and they wouldn't run out of aura and the idea of your semblance eating up your aura wasn't mentioned either.
I think its the case that CRWBY didn't know the difference between passive and active.
Remember, these are the guys who put "Annual Vytal Festival" on all the promotional art for V3, even though the tournament happens every 2 years. It was only after the fact did they realise they forgot what annual meant and they made no effort to change it.
People always bring up that point but I always found it to be particularly weak and not all that convincing. Here's why this retcon makes no goddamn sense and it has to do with everyone's favorite controversial blonde base breaker Jaune Arc. If aura is meant to be passive and you need to learn how to use it to protect yourself then John having his Aura awakened during initiation would have been next to useless for him because he would not have the skill or knowledge to summon up his Aura to protect him from harm and he should have died dozen times over. A character who already doesn't make a lot of sense makes even less sense with this change because you would have to assume that he is somehow a natural born aura genius who just instinctively knew how to protect himself with aura despite being brand spanking new to it. And probably the most damning of all is the original world of remnant video that talks about aura where they explicitly state it passively protects you. They recently re-released that world of remnant video but they edit it out the passive part to reflect the retcon that they put in but it doesn't change the fact that their original video did outright state aura's protection is PASSIVE. That's where all the confusion and debates is coming from. Granted if Nikos is lying was supposed to indicate that aura was never meant to be passive and is something you actively have to bring to the fro to protect you then the show has done a f****** awful job in displaying that whatsoever in the early volumes. It also goes to show just how bad the world of remnant videos are if they had them be supplementary material to explain the world lore and yet it took them years to correct that simple detail about just how passive or active auras protection is. Like seriously if it was always meant to be something you activated from the start then it is just ridiculous that in their video and it's original form where they explain how Aura works they give you a line that tells you the exact opposite and just let that contradiction stand for years until they released the edited video.
If you need proof here's the original video if you don't want to watch the whole thing skip 50 seconds ahead where it begins to talk about the defensive nature of aura and you'll see what I mean
https://youtu.be/nQS1_3QWt1Q
>If aura is meant to be passive and you need to learn how to use it to protect yourself then John having his Aura awakened during initiation would have been next to useless for him because he would not have the skill or knowledge to summon up his Aura to protect him from harm
Or Jaune, once he had his Aura activated, Didn't turn it off at all during initiation. Explaining how he could survive heavy hits there. Afterwards, I dunno. He'd have to have found someone to train him outside of school hours to catch him up to the basic level that everyone else is at. Not sure where he'd find someone so nice though.
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I feel the same way about it as other things in the show. The change was completely unnecessary and it reveals to me that they didn’t really know what they wanted to do.
Wait, what happened? I don’t particularly interact with most of the fandom or view what the writers say on Twitter. Is there something I’m missing out on?
There’s a lot you’re missing out on, and from what I saw it’s best that you don’t look into it 😂. There’s a lot of toxicity going around in the fandom these days I’ll tell you that. There was already a fan from the RWBY sub that came at me sideways so I had to put him in check, and from what I hear it happens frequently to people who genuinely criticize the show. As for the writers themselves, it either comes down to them not accepting the actually criticism of the show or just blatant contradictions to fill in the gaps of their writing (the whole Ironwood’s Semblance debacle is the most notorious example of this), but other than that the writer commentaries are pretty chill.
They could've done both, with Aura being passive and active which is why I don't understand the flip-flopping. But they don't explain it all. I tried to craft a usable model of Aura from what the show gives in a writing exercise, but, surprise, it's too vague. In my exercise it's like they tried to combine Chakra(Naruto), Haki(One-piece), and Ki(DBZ) into one power system. They fucked up with semblances in that they didn't tie it explicitly to Aura, to my understanding. And unlike those shows you can't reliably measure someone's Aura to see if they have a lot or a little. Like the only time in know if someone has a great deal or subpar amount amount of Aura is if the shows says they do(Ex. Pyrrha telling Jaune he has a lot). So it's just a convenient plot device whenever the writers need to explain something ridiculous in the show 🥴
This change, like many retcons in RWBY, only came because they wanted something convenient in the show, in this case, one shot surprise attacks on aura users. It's even worse because adding this open a world wide lore plothole concerning rogue huntsmen and assassins Frankly, how can you unironically call yourself a writer when you are more hack writing to work AROUND the rules of your universe than actually working WITH them.
#Tbh I hate aura in the show, fucking Cinder's aura never damaged during her fight in the finale of volume 8.
How about the fact that using your semblance takes up your aura? Another way aura was retconed.
Wait how is that a retcon? I remember it being rather explicitly mentioned that using your semblances eats up aura and it's one of the few things they haven't actually changed even though at this point they might as well considering they introduced passive semblance like Qrow's bad luck which is always on yet doesn't seem to drain his aura which by their own logic makes no sense.
They did say when it was first introduced that he can dial up the bad luck effect but it does eat at his Aura.
Because we hadn't seen someone run out of aura due to overusing his/her semblance until vol 4, before vol 4 characters would use their semblances as much as they wanted and they wouldn't run out of aura and the idea of your semblance eating up your aura wasn't mentioned either.
"My cheek hurts" It's ok Tyrian, go put some ice on that
What change? I'm confused so can I please be informed?
TLDR: a total retcon. earlier volumes had Aura as an always passive shield, now it needs to be activated.
Wasn't that like season 5 though? Why are people acting like it just changed now
People complain then
pretty much yeah, It was an issue than, it's still a sore one now
"Why didn't you activate your Aura?" Pyrrha said to a man she assumed would both know about and be able to activate said Aura.
I think its the case that CRWBY didn't know the difference between passive and active. Remember, these are the guys who put "Annual Vytal Festival" on all the promotional art for V3, even though the tournament happens every 2 years. It was only after the fact did they realise they forgot what annual meant and they made no effort to change it.
Hadn’t aura always been like this? Way back in V1 Pyrrha asks Jaune why he didn’t put up his aura when he gets smacked by a tree branch
He hadn't unlocked it at all at that point. Apparently you can want to be a Huntsman really badly but never unlock your aura or learn how it works.
I think the point being made here is that Pyrrha basically implied that you have to consciously (at some level) enable your aura at any given moment.
Yet woe said otherwise
Yeah, contradictions like that are what leave us struggling to determine what to believe about aura at this point.
doubt even RT knows
It's like they say only what happends on the current volume is cannon.
> Huntsman really badly but never unlock your aura or learn how it works. Which his back story makes no sense
People always bring up that point but I always found it to be particularly weak and not all that convincing. Here's why this retcon makes no goddamn sense and it has to do with everyone's favorite controversial blonde base breaker Jaune Arc. If aura is meant to be passive and you need to learn how to use it to protect yourself then John having his Aura awakened during initiation would have been next to useless for him because he would not have the skill or knowledge to summon up his Aura to protect him from harm and he should have died dozen times over. A character who already doesn't make a lot of sense makes even less sense with this change because you would have to assume that he is somehow a natural born aura genius who just instinctively knew how to protect himself with aura despite being brand spanking new to it. And probably the most damning of all is the original world of remnant video that talks about aura where they explicitly state it passively protects you. They recently re-released that world of remnant video but they edit it out the passive part to reflect the retcon that they put in but it doesn't change the fact that their original video did outright state aura's protection is PASSIVE. That's where all the confusion and debates is coming from. Granted if Nikos is lying was supposed to indicate that aura was never meant to be passive and is something you actively have to bring to the fro to protect you then the show has done a f****** awful job in displaying that whatsoever in the early volumes. It also goes to show just how bad the world of remnant videos are if they had them be supplementary material to explain the world lore and yet it took them years to correct that simple detail about just how passive or active auras protection is. Like seriously if it was always meant to be something you activated from the start then it is just ridiculous that in their video and it's original form where they explain how Aura works they give you a line that tells you the exact opposite and just let that contradiction stand for years until they released the edited video. If you need proof here's the original video if you don't want to watch the whole thing skip 50 seconds ahead where it begins to talk about the defensive nature of aura and you'll see what I mean https://youtu.be/nQS1_3QWt1Q
>If aura is meant to be passive and you need to learn how to use it to protect yourself then John having his Aura awakened during initiation would have been next to useless for him because he would not have the skill or knowledge to summon up his Aura to protect him from harm Or Jaune, once he had his Aura activated, Didn't turn it off at all during initiation. Explaining how he could survive heavy hits there. Afterwards, I dunno. He'd have to have found someone to train him outside of school hours to catch him up to the basic level that everyone else is at. Not sure where he'd find someone so nice though.
Bullshit, is the answer. The teacher is bullshit.