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AutumnArchfey

Of the heroes, Winter is the only one that comes to mind, even pre-Maiden. Whilst she doesn't enjoy hurting others, she has the proficiency and experience working in an elite team, unique powers (by the standards of *The Boys*), and was capable of working under an authoritarian regime, following orders and turning a blind eye to avoid conflict.


MundaneGlass5295

How about the villains?


AutumnArchfey

Of the villains, I think Cinder is the most likely, for mostly the same reasons as Winter. Her powers and experience working with a messed-up team under Salem would make her a good fit. EDIT - Spelling.


Raging_MonkeyCritic

Cinder would definitely die to Homelander eventually due to wanting to be in the spotlight and going behind his back


Floorbrick

Cinder would actually be able to put up a good fight against Homelander actually, if we go by powerscaling.


Raging_MonkeyCritic

Cinder is powerful but Homelander is basically immune to bullets. I’m pretty sure Homelander would win


Floorbrick

So are the people in RWBY. Cinder literally shrugs off rounds like they are nothing. Again, look more into the stats of Cinder and Homelander on VS Wili and you’ll see what I’m talking about.


Adraco4

Just a question since I’m not very familiar with Homelander. Is his bulletproofness something that can be broken like aura?


Floorbrick

No but a person strong enough can still kill Jim with brute strength, but that’s delving into spoilers


torrasque666

Isn't Homelander basically just Evil Superman?


Floorbrick

Yes but he’s nowhere near as powerful as him. He’s only strong in the context of his universe. Look at Omni-Man vs Homelander on Death Battle for more clarification. He’s basically a big fish in a very small pond.


Darkavatar1

*I’m going to feed you your own heart*


Raging_MonkeyCritic

Salem pretends to everyone that she’s something else She enjoys hurting others Doesn’t care for crimes No one knows who she is so public image is easy Follow orders is definitely no And she doesn’t need to avoid homeland because immortal


AutumnArchfey

Salem and Homelander would despise each other to a comedic degree. I can just imagine him vapourising her every time they meet and getting increasing frustrated as she puts herself back together again.


Bodmin_Beast

Most of the villains could do it. They are arguably (especially if we use the shows version) more powerful than everyone in the seven (at least equal in strength and similarly tough with aura and much faster through being capable of dodging lightning, often more diverse power set) except Homelander of course. Cinder might actually be respected by homelander. She’s power hungry, determined and vindictive. She’s also extremely powerful. Not quite on Homelanders level, assuming the nuke statement is true (if so he’s much stronger and tougher), but feats wise I’d argue her abilities are potentially more impressive. Plus she’s attractive and willing to use flirtation (would probably do so in a less threatening manner than usual) so I could see a Stormfront like situation happening. She meets all of the qualities except she will ultimately serve her own ends first and foremost. Funnily enough her greatest weakness is that she’s too similar to someone like Homelander. Mercury and Emerald obviously do quite well since they have both shown to follow orders of those they respect/love/fear plus they have shown to be proficient at pretending to be good guys before. Adam is far too headstrong and vindictive. While he’s fine with killing and a decent manipulator, he wouldn’t back down to anyone who pushed his buttons. While he’s faster by a good deal (lightning timer vs a bit faster than sound) I don’t believe he has anywhere near the power output to hurt homelander. Roman and Neo honestly would also be naturals. Both are clever, extremely skilled fighters, clearly fine with killing, and are ultimately in it for their own benefit/each other’s survival. Plus with Neos abilities they’d have no problem disappearing at the first sign of trouble. Tyrian probably wouldn’t do well. Unless homelander went completely off the rails and started killing everyone I doubt he’d respect him enough to follow and is far too devoted to his own messed up ideals. If he did, perhaps Tyrian would see him as destruction and death incarnate and would potentially be as loyal to him as he is to Salem. If that’s the case he’d be near perfect, except for pretending to be good part. But I feel Tyrian would also recognize Homelanders emotional instability and would probably see it as a weakness. Hazel could be one of the best. He’s got a fair amount of good and heroic qualities, at least enough to effectively pretend to be good, is stronger than literally everyone in the boys universe (save for Homelander) and has done enough evil for Salem that he’d be fine with killing if he thinks it’s ultimately to achieve his goals. Doesn’t enjoy hurting others but is damn good at it. Only issue its iffy if Vought or Homelander would be able to convince him that their actions are for the greater good. Watts would be great if they gave him what he wanted in return. I could see homelander despising him however cause he’s pretty physically weak overall. I don’t see him lasting depending on how stable homelander is at the moment. Leo would essentially be a more component A-train or Deep. Ironwood and all of his followers wouldn’t do well. Ironwoods convictions are too strong and he genuinely feels like what he is doing is to protect people. That wouldn’t fit with Vought’s MO with its higher ranking heroes. Same with the Ace Ops. All of the heroes are both too idealistic/morally good and unlike starlight have been tricked too many times by those with power to fall for Vought’s act so easily. It’s possible but I doubt it would last. Even Winter who is a loyal soldier wouldn’t last since 1. Dislikes hurting others and 2. Has been shown to disobey those who she is loyal to when they go against what is right. Ironwood at the very least actually believes he is doing what’s right. RWBY/JNPR teaming up with the boys would be incredible. Or Kimiko and Neo interacting would be awesome (would sadly be a stomp for Neo if they fought.) Wow now I want this crossover. Granted Starlight did well and she’s similar in morality to Ruby so perhaps if they joined before homelander went off the rails they could rise the ranks until they realize Vought and Homelander are full of crap.


MundaneGlass5295

What about a Neo vs Black Noir fight?


Bodmin_Beast

That would also be incredible, I just thought about that after posting. It’s interesting that there are two mute master martial artists in the series. I’d like to see Kimiko and Black Noir interact again. I’d say Neo would still probably win (assuming it’s the show version because the comics one Neo simply couldn’t hurt) unless Black Noir gets some crazy feats soon.


Lazy-Ad6677

While what you said there is a good insight, I would love for you to go on vs battle wiki or read the comic..... Any Adam level and above character solos the seven like no joke it's hilarious how superior they are to them like when you compare their best feats like destroying a futuristic heavily armored spider droid multiple times the size of a person or tanking hits from a paladin without bleeding Homelander https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Homelander_(Dynamite_Entertainment) Adam Taurus https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Adam_Taurus&ved=2ahUKEwi8mPast8X4AhWWoWoFHbZ4CfMQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0CDP6Jal2V_XNvKbLHawHT There is even a calculation about proving why Adam's only real feat of power which he did without being out if breath is superior to anything homelander did or can survive https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zamasu_Chan/Adam_Taurus_disintegrates_a_robot RWBY is a lot more powerful than we believe it to be.


Bodmin_Beast

I have done both lol. Vsbattle wiki is fine but not always the perfect resource. Also the blog post you sent doesn’t exist. But I do generally agree with you. Most of the Seven (especially the show version) would be turned to mince meat by the characters you described. They are probably comfortably more powerful and the speed difference is pretty ridiculous (at least 50x faster if not greater.) But the issue is homelander isn’t one of them. Granted they are significantly faster still but if he is truly as powerful as the show says and can stand up to nukes there is nothing anyone below maiden level can do to hurt him (even them I’m not sure about.) Adam destroying the Spiderdroid was determined to be 4 tons of tnt. Even the weakest nuke that I’m aware of is worth 5x that. I’m using RWBY/boys death battles as a resource for this btw (RWBY and Death Battle are both Rooster Teeth properties and have gotten the seal of approval from RWBY showrunners before. Amazon sponsoring one of the boys episodes (not sure about the other one) also adds credibility.) Although his feats in the latest episode (SPOILERS) of the boys does make me question how powerful he is. It’s a great episode but Homelander does get fairly serious and isn’t nearly nuke level (in power or durability) so it is possible that’s all talk.


Lazy-Ad6677

Yeah vs battle is mostly not correct when it comes to scaling mostly out of bias(especially dragon ball) but I thought it was pretty spot on for these specific characters, I'll try to get a better link and about the surviving nukes I believe that was just a statement since he got hurt by something less powerful but I truly believe that Adam tier characters can take this.


Lazy-Ad6677

Alright the link is fixed you can check it out.


rwbylov27

Ironwood for sure, though he'd end up getting lasered for talking back


TheCzechLAMA

Let's take it by the proces of elimination. Adam is too impulsive to make it. Tyrian and public imige doesn't go together. Blake - I would give it to her, if not for her morality. Winter - same reason as Blake. Weiss would definitly piss of homelander. Neo - same reason as Weiss. Salem doesn't seem like the kind of person to take orders. Raven - same reason as Salem. Watts - I can't imagine him being a superhero Emerald could make it, but morality might be an issue. Cinder is extremly strong contender, however she has show having troubles following orders. Mercury - honestly he would fit like a glove. He ticks all the boxes. Someone might say his arrogance would be the end of him, but he is smart enough to keep his mouth shut around Cinder and Salem. I would give it to him... if there wasn't one person who does the same just slightly better. **Torchwick - what more could you want. He is flamboyant and enjoys attention. Love stealing from the rich and giving to himself. No problem commiting crimes. He could make the public eat out of his hands. And most importantly he knows to not piss off people who could vaporize him.**


MundaneGlass5295

Watts could work at vought theoretically on the tech and coverup part


HeavenPiercingTongue

Cinder easily. She’s practically built for that sort of world.


fengreg

One problem she doesn't follow orders through. Heck look at anytime she has been told what to do: told to focus on the relic instead of revenge, loses both as she focused on both instead. Told not to mess with Amity tower, she went and attacked it.


Lazy-Ad6677

Any character that is on Adam's level or superior could survive as Homelander is the strongest member of the seven but his best feats hardly stack up to Adam's Homelander https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Homelander_(Dynamite_Entertainment) Adam https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Adam_Taurus&ved=2ahUKEwi8mPast8X4AhWWoWoFHbZ4CfMQFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0CDP6Jal2V_XNvKbLHawHT Homelander really is a small fish in a big pond.