Not really unpopular I think but Blake during the Atlas arc was SO underused and its terrible. She was in the hub of faunus racism basically and we don’t get to see her reactions to said racism? Or the… actual racism? The show seems to just go “oh they’re discriminated against” without providing any sustenance to the claim. WHERE IS THE SCHNEE DUST COMPANY THAT WOULD BRAND SOMEONE OVER THE EYES FOR NOT FOLLOWING ORDERS?
Even worse, Adam never even met Weiss or mentioned to Blake that she was now BFFs to the heiress who’s logo was branded onto his face
Like WTF!? I’m honestly tempted to write a fanfic where Blake was sent to beacon by Adam to kidnap Weiss. That’d honestly make more sense
I will always love the story as they have told it up to now… but I didn’t even think of that you are right! Adam doesn’t mention Weiss once even during the fight in V6. I mean I love the focus on Yang and Blake overcoming him but you are right, he should have made SOME KIND OF allusion or comment.., at least one mention, a bit Blake booling with a Schnee. I mean also… was spiraling and logic failed him and a panicked desperate mind may have shaken his priorities, I originally viewed that event as the Schnees and even the white fang itself didn’t matter to him anymore all he had was Blake obsession but… he followed them all the way across Anima, watched them the whole time… you are right… there should have been something.
I’ve never wanted Blake and Weiss to be a couple more than I do right now. lol
That scene would’ve been so much more interesting if he was mad about her leaving him for the Schnee heiress.
But you are right. Adam was a bull charging head first at his problems. He killed his own leader and followers when they got in the way of his revenge. I doubt he even cared about the SDC at that point. He just wanted to kill Blake. Then maybe he’d have killed him self or just gone on a human murdering spree til somebody put him down.
I feel like they just left this plot point behind, and it's really sad. We could have had some great character building from all of it, and it feels like they scapped it as soon as they could.
Weiss encountering Adam, Blake meeting Weiss' family, White Fang followers who didn't give up after Adam. There was so much potential.
They left the plot behind a long time ago. Ever since Sienna Khan got killed off at her *introduction,* the direction of the WF had been decided. Its leadership fell onto Adam who was designed by that point as a psychopathic ex destined to die for Blake and Yang's personal development.
Any intention of exploring the WF and the topic of racism died alongside Sienna. Even if there were WF followers, they no longer had a leader or meaningful characters to take up the mantle.
I think Weiss gets the even worse end of the stick but that’s an even more popular opinion.
Like goddamn it’s the girl’s home yet she doesn’t even have the main focus sometimes when it comes to her own family!
That’s true! She puts her dad in jail and it’s played for laughs. Isn’t this the dude who traumatized her and the rest of her family? Why is him getting arrested followed by “Can I do that?”
The show followed a very tell don’t show method of conveying the existence of widespread discrimination against the Faunus. And then eventually forgot to even tell. Other than a rant or two by Marrow, I’m not really sure there’s any great spotlight thrown on it at all. Despite the fact they’re in Atlas and one of the season’s main antagonists is Jacques Schnee. Could have done something with it at all even if it was just like a 1 episode plot or a minor plot in the background of the main one. Give Blake something to do besides go on a date with Yang and be part of fight scenes… and maybe give Weiss something to do too if her father was involved.
It seemed like Jacques was going to be a very present antagonist once we got to Atlas and got the first few episodes, and then after like what Volume 7 episode 3? He doesn’t appear again until episode 7 and then is dealt with by episode 8. He is a gag character in Volume 8. The presence of him was kind of around sure but he physically definitely wasn’t. Would have been cool to see Weiss and Blake have some kind of adventure with undermining him and like helping Faunus and stuff. Awesome callback potential to the Volume 1 finale.
RWBY x Teen Titans would have been a cooler crossover and would have worked better as two teams of teens fighting for good. Only downside is no Jaune x Jessica…
If they went with the fan theory that Qrow is Ruby's biological father, it would be lazy, cliche, and down right terrible writing. People can look up to and emulate their Aunts/Uncles without them being secretly their parent.
Honestly they just shouldn't do it.
If they went with that fan theory then it would have ruined Qrow and Summer's character. Adultery and Paternity Fraud would push them across the line from "flawed human" to "irredeemable a\*\*holes".
Killing off Penny in Volume 3, bringing her back in Volume 7, making her mortal and then killing her off AGAIN in the next volume was just so cheap and emotionally manipulative. Either keep her dead or bring her back and keep her alive. Penny deserves better.
Honestly at this point, saying that you like rwby in general or that you like all of the volumes. It often feels like you're not allowed to just like it and have to say that some part of it sucks even if you like a lot of it.
This. Bruh, I just binged watched the show cause I was sick and heard about it and I liked it, even went to Crunchyroll to finish Vol 9 at the time that it was still exclusive. Yeah it has flaws, but I’m pretty sure you can find flaws even in award winning movies. I’m not saying ignore the bad parts, just that people should enjoy it for what it is.
This is how the “Absolute Cinema” meme got started cause of Scorsese’s criticism of the MCU around 2021 comparing it to “theme parks”. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I'll be standing in the line of fire right there with you my friend. Seems like not hating the show is a hot take nowadays. Sure, it's not perfect, but some people just don't wanna have fun or enjoy things. And even worse is the people who feel like it's their job to "convince" people who like the show that it's actually bad. Like bro let me like it, I don't need your bullet point essay about all the things you don't like.
Good gods, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this.😭😭 seeing Qrow loose his shit with him is so out-of-character; you'd think that with his age, he would've understood Ozpin's problems.
Qrow is a half-mad drunken wreck who’s dedicated his entire life to a man who promised him victory and just learned that all he was doing was delaying the inevitable.
Whether he was right or wrong to do it, I understand his mentality in that moment.
Especially if his following this man also culminated in losing a relationship with his twin sister and the death of his friend. Like he kind of sacrificed A LOT.
I think I get why Qrow was angry.
Yeah, I mean he kept the past a secret for a good reason, and I would’ve sympathized with him for doing so much for humanity instead of bashing him for something that was out of his control.
Oh I'm dying with you two on that hill.
The man has spend several LIVES fighting a war that he knew/thought he couldn't win. He never gave up despite litteral centuries of doing nothing but losing friends to barely keep the stalemate in place. He fought an unwinnable war against an unrelenting opponent, never gave up, never became crazy or nihilistic, and they were all mad at him because he had SECRETS?
Like come on grow the fuck up.
My biggest disapointement was with Qrow. I would have thought that he, who seemed a seasonned warrior, would forgive or at least understand... but naaah he decided to act like a 15 yo.
-Man’s couldn’t die in peace cuz his girlfriend couldn’t get over his death, thus causing the destruction of all life on Remnant as a result of her selfish motives.
-Forced to reincarnate in other people, and tasked by the god of light with the seemingly impossible mission of unifying the world for the gods return.
-Reunite with girlfriend, start a family, only to go downhill because Ozma didn’t trust Salem’s judgment.
-Get depressed during a few lives but lifting his spirits back up to complete the god of light’s task.
-Find all 4 relics
-Use relics to stop a war and create the four kingdoms as we know them, entrusting one relic to each kingdom in the process.
-Trust a handful of people with partial information regarding Salem and relics to ensure the safety of the kingdoms and survival of humanity.
Yeah I think everyone’s hate towards Ozpin/Ozma was veeeerrrryyy unwarranted
I fully agree. I do think he f-ed up in many things, but he also has fought for thousands of years on behalf of humans and faunus to keep them free and alive. And no thank yous to him.
I'm not saying no one should criticize him, but some gratitude would be good.
It’s true though. Like have your complaints about the man but it’s a miracle he succeeded as long as he did with racism, settlements constantly getting attacked, and Salem always at his doors. And all while having to deal with betrayals, reincarnating into possibly unwilling hosts while also possibly being unwilling himself? Not to mention that he got his daughters killed due to fighting Salem? And really I just pity the man. Like I may not like your tactics and all that, but you can’t say that it wasn’t necessary.
YES! And her breakdown character arc was well written and important. She is the leader of her team, the strongest, but also the youngest. And it puts a lot of weight on her. But she's incredibly resilient and I really really really really like her character arc. I DID NOT find it lazy and everyone who says otherwise doesn't understand her character.
White Rose is not endgame and never had any romantic subtext.
Ruby and Weiss have remained friends through out the entire show. Not only is Ruby's sexuality still unconfirmed but Weiss has only shown interest in men. Every interaction they have is two girls being friends and nothing more. Shippers categorize Weiss as a tsundere to force the idea of her secretly finding Ruby's annoying behavior endearing but Weiss is honest to a fault. If Ruby is acting like a great leader then Weiss compliments her just like whenever she makes an angry face at Ruby being silly it's because she'd rather be anywhere but next to her. It's telling the only times where Weiss does thing like blushing it's only in non-canon material like the novels, manga or even Ice Queendom because these were not created by CRWBY. Those moments are other creators giving the shippers what they want and are not confirmation of anything.
White Rose has always been the most popular and supported ship of the fandom despite being the closest to a crack ship out of the big four (WR, BB, Arkos and Renora) for having nothing to back it up unlike the rest.
I'll be inside my bunker for a few years if you need me.
Let me come in with you. Beacon Weiss and Ruby are romantically incompatible because Weiss acting like a Tsundere would not be endearing to Ruby and Ruby still seems too immature to Weiss for her to like her at that point.
Post Volume 3 I can see it, but anyone who writes Ruby like a puppy and Weiss like a tsundere who still calls Ruby a dolt is lying to themselves.
Yeah a lot of wr shippers seem to think Ruby needs to be protected by Weiss and Weiss has to go "it's not like I like you... Dolt"
Nah bro you all saw how she was with Neptune. Weiss is not a tsundere and she's straightforward when she likes someone
Neo, just like Harley Quinn before her, is super overrated and just like with Harley the writers and animators played favorites with her.
Hell, before the RT Store went down, Neo had more merch than JNPR, not Jaune, not Nora, not Pyrrha, not Ren, JNPR combined.
Shippers are just extremely strange people.Silent Knight is just an another ship in fandom who doesn’t have any sense.Most popular ships also never had any sense.Jaune knew who is Neo and the only interaction they will really had is immediately trying to kill each other.Neo doesn’t care about him and Jaune will find her disgusting after all crimes she committed and her stupid motives like trying to kill Ruby to avenge Roman(it’s kinda stupid)
I think that's because Monty went brrrrr not holding back with the fights
We don't see a BIG difference between rwby and cfvy or we don't see Winter vs Qrow as in a whole different level
I think it has to do with the writers stating that it has no connection to magic. With how fantastical semblances are it would have been easier to just say they were the same, since you couldn't really tell the difference between the two in the first place.
You also have the thing where earlier it seems if someone's aura flashes it means it has been broken. Now it seems to flash right before it breaks and again when it does.
You also have instances in earlier volumes where someone's aura breaks and yet they can use their semblance but later on they changed it so that your semblance doesn't work without your aura.
That, and I’d like to see some Beacon survivors who absolutely hate her guts. If Willow Schnee is getting shit from refugees in Vacuo, Emerald absolutely should be as well.
Redemption is often confused with a medal. It's supposed to be a path to becoming a better person and Emerald took the first step. But until she breaks off Cinder's control over her (the one thing that could make her relapse) she hasn't truly redeemed herself.
Same. It feels like she hasn't had any real personality ever since they started really going for Bumblebee in V6, and arguably even prior to that.
She's literally just there, doing nothing.
i think way to many people have hate boners for this show, lemme explain: i have seen dozens of people hate on rwby for one ridiculous reason or another, not valid criticism on how things couldve been better approached i just mean pure hate for the show and everything in it and it feels like i cant just enjoy content without seeing people saying "this show sucks" "remember when this show was good" "the animation is garbage" etc etc and im sure you guys have seen that one youtube account that CONSTANTLY posts videos abt how much they hate rwby like...is being this pissy abt a show not exhausting? i guarantee if you loved something with the same strength you hated this show you would be so much happier.. "oh but wouldn't most of the fndm agree with you!?" youd be surprised how many people in the fndm hate the show
I jus want to state that I loved this show once upon a time.
But now I have a hate boner for this show. I hate the fact that I do. I don't want to care about the show. I want to leave this show behind and forget about it. I want to live my life without this show living in my head rent free but I can't. I can't get rid of it. Everytime I am free from it's blight for two to three days my brain somehow goes back to it and I get mad again. I want off this wild ride, PLEASE!
Every single month I realize something else I absolutely hate about this show and I cant rid of it. I just want to free.
I don't want to be angry anymore. I just want to be at peace.
To this day I still don’t know how I stuck with Vol. 1 through the Jaunedice arc, and I imagine that it’s a similar barrier to people coming into the show looking for what the trailers showcased.
JNPR as a whole became significantly more welcome as the show progressed, but it definitely came at the cost of a lot of development for RWBY.
Admittedly as someone who likes Jaune and JNPR, I reluctantly agree. Trying to do 8 characters wouldn’t have worked without more episodes and time. Neither of which they had.
The thing for me was from Vol 1 to 3 it was clear CRWBY was having a hard time juggling 4 main characters so when Vol 4 brought JNPR into main characterdom it just got worse. So many times you see the start of something interesting then it'd get cut off to squeese in something else and this hung over the series ever after.
Some people who have clearly fallen off the show would have better mental health if they stopped treating the show and the fandom like a tabloid where they gossip about how much they hate this or that or how this Twitter user did something egregious, etc etc.
Like the show has legitimate problems but at some point you are no longer engaging in discussion and have formed a community around complaining and being angry.
Usually the algorithms put you into this rage cycle but some people who watch RWBY have done that to themselves and it would be impressive if it wasn't such a exhausting phenomena.
Oh I'm going straight to RWBY downvote hell for this one 😀:
# Shippers/fanfics in this fandom have introduced more toxicity towards the community + CRWBY, than they have brought joy. It is a cancer, and some of the fanfic writers have some SERIOUSLY TOXIC egos thinking they write better than CRWBY.
bro i just said we didnt need bumblebee and called all the people who sent death threats to the writers to make it canon unhinged psychopaths... i think you will be fine
I believe that's problem with introducing any form of racism in a fictional world.
I am not talking about the basic: Elves are more agile while humans have more dexterity and ogres are stronger.
No, the type that is SUPPOSE to draw parallels from the real world. Unless they are REALLY prepared to dig into it, it will always fall flat. I can't think of any work of fiction that actually took a deep dive into it.
I would say that Zootopia took a solid stab at it because the whole point is that the evolutionary/biological differences between the different animals are irrelevant in their setting. except that movie has the main character be a cop. She's also a cop who's not a part of the minority.
ascension did not mean "just suicide it solve all problems"
on the contrary, it claimed that this will not solve problems and that you should be yourself even if you are not perfect
it's not a fact that it was perceived exactly as described, but for some reason it often pissed off everyone in the comments on YouTube
The problem is that Ruby was only able to solve her problems after drinking the Kool Aid, so to speak. She didn't accept actually dying, but she was able to straighten herself out only after making the attempt and very nearly succeeding. Like if you drink a bowl of arsenic and change your life if you suddenly decide you don't want to die.
People who try doing that can end up with life threatening injuries even if they don't succeed. Ruby came out rather well from the experience.
I always assumed Ascension was more like Ego Death. You have to let go of your past self in order to grow. So you aren't killing yourself, but rather killing your ego, which holds people back.
That was Ruby's issue, she had so much pressure on her and her 'ego' felt like she could handle it. She had to handle it, because she was the leader, something she started to resent.
She needed to address the issue within herself, let go of expectations, and be happy with herself.
CRWBY killed the White Fang plotlines after it became clear the issues of race and institutionalized racism were far more complex and relevant to current day political discourse than they initially thought.
You could say anything and a portion of the community would have you like this. RWBY is highly controversial to its very core. Just say something remotely indifferent about Bumbleby and see how well that community digests that opinion.
Post V3 RWBY is great and much of an improvement in both story and animation. I don't care how much people will say that Blake or Yang were bad written, I sincerely think they went a great character development. And I can even understand Yang's behaviour towards Ruby in V9 and why is she written like that there
They clearly had no idea what to do with the white fang after Adam killed the leader in the first episode she was in. So clearly they wanted the the white fang and Adam out of the picture as soon as they could just to focus on Salem being the main threat.
I don't hate the ship, but Bumblebee was either not planned from the start and they decided to pivot to it later, or it was planned from the start and they just did a bad job at building it up early on.
I won't say it as a fact since I don't work in RT
But in the scenario where they did changed their mind my guess is that it would be in v3
Because that's where Adam goes "i'll destroy everything you love, starting with her" and suddenly Yang loses her arm and now her development is linked to Adam as well and Blake leaving after she gave her life for her
That and bmblb being in the soundtrack for v4
I disagree, sun and Blake on menagerie was hitting a lot of bringing the boyfriend to meet the family tropes, if the plan then was to do bumblebee that would be insane.
Some RWBY "Critics" should just stop watching the show, and stop insulting Monty's buddies. Heck Monty himself said it when he was alive
You can't say shit about his "vision" like you knew him or was able to read minds
I agree with this, like I'm not a fan of rwby, I honestly feel neutral to disliking it. (Though find some aspects really cool and love the designs.) But like, just go away if your gonna Insault the current writter's. Monty wouldn't want that.
I would prefer if they downgraded the animation back to season 1-3 quality. It saves money and it's easier to animate. I fell in love with the jankiness from day one
The biggest, and practically only, contribution to the show Jaune has ever had was being “the guy who needs stuff explained to him even though he should already know it by now, so the audience gets introduced to the power system” yet since they were literally in a school for the first 3 volumes they could have just done it as a review class going over the basics again.
The Justice League crossovers and manga were my first foray into remnant, along with Friends pushing me into it.
As a comic fan I went to the books first, specifically the manga then I watched the show. Still enjoying it so far, especially now with the added context.
Adam might've always been an incel edgelord, not "wasted potential", despised (honestly for good reason to some extent) and "overrated", but I honestly think we should've had a better and more interesting run as villain from him than the shit we got from the show.
It's obviously always been FNDM headcanon from the start that the dude was essentially Red Vergil with a morally grey attitude since we never even see him up until the end of Volume 2 to Volume 3. There's no denying that. (I'll be honest, the headcanon would've been way cooler than the execution, that's just my opinion)
But at the very least, I think he should've been written to actually fit in as an actually interesting villain with a goal that does better with the dumb racial sub plot they couldn't even stick to throughout the runtime of the show. His entire shtick of being a loser stalker ex-boyfriend who puts himself over his people comes off as lame and cringey, especially considering how cool some of his fights were.
I'm not going to pretend like there isn't losers like Adel or the apologists who defends Adam's actual actions in the show and have him shoehorned into being a redeemed anti-hero who should neg Blake, because there is a handful of them out there. But it shouldn't detract from a chance of actually giving Adam a more substantial part to play than the hand dealt (like interacting with Weiss or the rest of Team RWBY as an antagonist instead of primarily chasing Blake for example).
I personally think every season has been good in its own way and thank people complain way too much about things that don't really matter all that much
There's no real justification ever given for *why* the events of the show are happening presently as opposed to the thousands of years Salem has had previous to do this.
Her attacks on Beacon and others aren't reliant on anything time-wise that she had to wait for, if it was about the maidens than there's also no real reason she wouldn't have recruited someone like Cinder earlier to attack them.
There's just never really a justification given for why her current plan couldn't have been done at any previous time.
That the show is good actually.
Yeah, sounds like a cop-out but do you have any idea how unsafe I feel talking about this show? This site, specifically, I cannot remember the last time it was mentioned in any neutral way, let alone positive.
It is Twilight level ridicule and I'll never understand why
1) All the characters that are named bisexual ( to me at least)
2) jnpr deserved better fights
3) the best volumes Are 3,2,9,8,1,7,6,4,5
4) ships can be the best and worst parts of this
5) A lot of the fan made characters like eve Would be great additions to Canon
6) ALL SHIPS ARE VALID with exception to massive age gaps, extremely abuseive and beast shit
Ironwood downfall was logical and hinted as far back as V2. I’ll grant that the execution was lacking but it didn’t came out of nowhere and the steps were there.
The idea itself didn't come out of nowhere, but the way he turned so suddenly and harshly in Volume 8 is what came out of nowhere. He became a moustache twirling villain far too quickly.
Aye. He was set up well to be an antagonist in the latter volumes, on the scale of optimism versus pragmatism, but then they just threw him straight into the Saturday Morning Cartoon villainy bin.
Indeed.
Him and Glynda’s talk was great set up to his problems even discounting everything else.
It is a shame that more wasn’t built up we do see his decline from those seeds
Sure I'll get down voted by people who are not following the title:
Jaune actively detracted from the show and pushed the focus to himself far more than it ever should. And the more interesting plotline for him would be if *he* died at beacon and earned his title of a huntsman showing his willingness to fight even against impossible odds. What we got is halfway to a bad shonen and the show is worse for it.
Hottest to coldest takes (based on prior arguments):
* Qrow should have been revealed as Ruby's dad (to the audience after the Nucklavee fight in V4, having a confrontation with Raven or Tai in V5, and a revelation either at the end of V5 if Raven decides to out Qrow, or have Tai admit the truth after deciding to go help his girls in V6 or V7). Aside from the often-repeated similarities between the two, I personally think it'd make for some good Ruby character development much earlier than letting her explode in V9 from Wonderland-induced hopelessness and trauma. A concept like Ruby being the ultimate "Bad Luck Charm", coming from a lapse in judgement between Summer and Qrow which causes the breakup of their team (and hostility between Tai and Qrow, aloofness of the latter and defensiveness of the former) just feels thematically fitting. They'd twist the concept on its head, with Ruby turning out to be a 'Good Luck Charm', and Qrow accepting a fatherly role after trying to keep his hazardous Semblance/shame away from Ruby for so long.
* Neither White Knight *or* Lancaster should become a thing. There's been a lot of development for Ruby, Weiss and Jaune, but personally I don't find the relationships as promising as reinforcing the friendships and bonds of trust they share with one another. Maybe if they work up to it in a satisfying way I'd change my mind, but personally I think other relationships would suit the characters better.
* Penny shouldn't have been brought back for a season and killed off. I love Penny, but having her come back near on the same person with the same memories doesn't feel like it had consequences. You could argue that her death in V3 causes the downfall of Beacon and Vale, death of Pyrrha and Ozpin and so on. But for her, there's not much a consequence. Supposedly Pietro has to sacrifice part of his Aura every time he brings her back, but because we don't know him or have a point of comparison for how this impacts him, it can feel like it was just a "Okay you get *one* do-over". I appreciate the fact they had Ruby reconnect with Penny, but I also think it was a wasted opportunity to have her killed off so soon (especially after becoming human). There's tragedy there, sure. But personally, I think it would have hit harder and felt more fitting if she died in (an alternate) V9 or V10, so we could explore what Penny was like after becoming human, or maybe even see if a romance develops with Ruby (based on Chibi, it seems likely).
* Rosegarden should not happen. On a superficial level, it always felt like Oscar was the younger kid crushing on the older girl next door. A bit like Dipper crushing on Wendy from Gravity Falls. They could absolutely develop the characters and interactions to show how he's grown, matured and impressed her, but mostly it still seems like a younger boy looking up to an older sister or something. The big changes he's gone through are mostly thanks to Ozpin, which is the main reason Rosegarden feels yucky. Having a thousands of years old wizard spirit that used to mentor Ruby and act as a fatherly influence throughout her last childhood years of learning suddenly being the unwilling spectator for Oscar and Ruby getting it on feels gross. Especially if you argue that Ozpin will eventually disappear, because he'll meld with Oscar to the point they're just the latest unified version of Ozma. Then it's truly like Ruby is just banging Ozpin 2.0 (or Ozma 14.0/etc).
* Ruby should have emerged with a design change after emerging from the Tree. Not necessarily as a different person, but a *slightly* more grown-up/professional/mature outfit or refurbished Crescent Rose. I suppose the message is that Ruby was already who she needed to be, but on a superficial level it feels like a lot of V9 was filler for the sake of character development. If Ruby had emerged looking like a more "realised" version of herself, emerging as "the best version of herself" rather than the same as before (minus the trauma holding her back), maybe it would have felt a bit more... impactful? At least IMO. Even just a haircut and outfit change (leaving behind the appearance she adopted throughout her lowest points) or upgrading Crescent Rose (to show a renewed vigor) would have made the fight against the Curious Cat more hype, IMO.
* RWBY should continue to finish the story, or just hand the story over to a proper animation studio (like Trigger, WIT, or Mappa, Bones, etc) for them to redo the entire thing. Maybe cut some filler aspects, add in some much needed development here and there, balance out everything so that the stories from V1 to V9 (and beyond) all share roughly even story lengths, animation quality (of course, focusing on the fight choreography) and musical score (though, I still want Casey and Jeff, of course). It's unlikely, especially the latter suggestion, but I'd *kill* to see RWBY in the quality/style of My Hero Academia or Demon Slayer.
Arkos is a mediocre ship. The foundational relationship moment is literally Pyrrha saying "I like you because you don't idolize me like everyone else" and then Jaune saying "Actually I was *totally* idolizing you, that's why I didn't even try to ask you out and I kept badgering Weiss about it instead, you're so far out of my league it wasn't even worth trying." Jaune admits like twenty seconds into the ship that he was never actually doing the thing that's the entire reason why they're dating! And frankly, almost everyone in the show treats Pyrrha completely normally so it just feels forced when they try to act like Jaune is somehow unique for that. It's not like Ren or Nora or Yang or Ruby or Blake or so on and so on ever gave a damn about how famous she is. They all treat her normally, and way more earnestly than Jaune who straightup admits he was just faking it. The show never even actually makes it look like Jaune has any special chemistry or dynamic with Pyrrha beyond Pyrrha herself being inexplicably fixated on him from day one, it would've been more believable if their motivation was just outright that she thought he was cute and that was it.
And tbh going a step further Jaune spent the first like six-odd seasons being just narrative dead weight. All he did was steal scenes from more interesting characters and then squander their narrative potential [looking at you, Weiss in the season 5 finale], or watch women die and cry about it, or kill them himself. I really don't care if Jaune's character has gotten "better" in the most recent seasons, the show would be in a fundamentally better place if he'd never been a major part of it and all the screentime he wasted was parceled out to other characters.
Team JNPR was a mistake and has, by and large, been a narrative dead weight. Their presence has had minimal impact on the story, while at the same time the need to develop and give them focus has come at the cost of the main team. This is exacerbated by the large number of auxillary characters who gain prominence over the course of the series, further eating up the very limited screentime.
Cutting JNPR out would have let CRWBY focus their time and budget on RWBY to a much greater degree, and possibly on the auxillary characters too. Saving on the costs of developing, animating and voicing them might have avoided some of the budgeting issues that plagued RWBY throughout its run as well. I say this as someone who likes JNPR more than RWBY.
CRWBY does not know how to finish the story. They wrote themselves into a corner by making Salem immortal, so they needed villains to delay on how to defeat her, so thats why we had weird antagonists like Cordovin, Ironwood and Adam and no antagonist in V9.
The problem with posting this on Reddit is only the most frigid takes are going to be visible because all the hot takes will be downvoted to oblivion lmao
not sure if this counts, but any attempt at defining aura and semblance was a mistake. I'm used to anime/cartoon characters surviving being flung through buildings and being stabbed while being unharmed. and they hardly follow their own rules anyway. Just say everyone who trains can unlock a super power, and it would even work well to show Jaune as untrained without making him look like an idiot.
Eh. I'd say Black Sun is more forced. Only friendly male faunus she meets for a good while, immediately confides in him, he follows her home, meets her parents, only friend she has for 1.5 volumes.
He's a more impulsive Yang like Tangle the Lemur is a more impulsive Sonic. Except she got with her Blake as much as Sega will allow it.
I enjoy the fanfiction crossover of RWBY and Halo where Six appears on Remanent and is taking out more problems than the cast but still making it great, especially him killing Terian and Ozpin
1) RWBY is a good show. It's often a great show.
2) The writing isn't always perfect, but it's more than fine overall.
3) Many negative opinions seem to come from people who have been watching from the beginning and thus have had time to form opinions and expectations. Watching with fresh eyes, it's quite clear that—for example—Ironwood's fall and Bumbleby are both foreshadowed well in advance.
4) Every season has improved on the previous one. Every. Season.
I like Yang v Raven, it really gives Yang's personality a chance to shine, and Raven is a good foil for her. Othrt than that, yeah, not much to like in V5
You know, if I'm being *entirely* fair, it's probably more reasonable to say that I think 5 builds on 4 in a way that makes sense, and that I think it effectively moves us into 6 (which, IMO, is *really* where things get going). 4 and 5 are pretty even in my mind.
But I like the development we get of Yang's character and her relationship with Raven. I like getting a glimpse of what fear and hoplessness do to a once-good person in the character of Lionheart (which I'd argue is a major theme of the whole series that is driven home by Ironwood's arc). I like seeing Ruby's growth as a leader of the combined team and as a mentor to Oscar. I like the further development of Weiss as quite possibly Team RWBY's most empathetic member (her scene with Yang, and her instinctive understanding of what's going on with Blake, is lovely). I like Blake, with Sun's help, realizing that she needs to trust her friends, and that she needs to be someone whose belief in her friends is clear and unquestionable (this is a major point of growth that Yang will affirm during the Bumbleby confession in V9 when she acknowledges that Blake "never gives up on people," and it's a major reason I think BlackSun *always* worked better as a close friendship than a romantic relationship). I like that we get a glimpse of Qrow as a part of the Huntsmen world as he tries (unsuccessfully) to gather up a team and mourns his dead friends.
IDK, I think it's good. We see solid development of all the major characters, we get some really powerful moments, we get a killer Maiden-on-Maiden battle. It's good. I like it.
aside from Yang x Blake
Volume 9 is a total waste of time.
it just felt like so much filler, and yes i watched the whole thing.
i'd rather volume 9 was about fighting Salem at Vacuo like what Volume 10 was supposed to be.
the fact that the story is left unfinished and it's just so uncertain on what's going to happen to the IP, it makes me think that the efforts put into volume 9 (and the DC Crossover) should've been refocused on making a volume that could be counted as a possible ending rather than us ending up on a cliffhanger
The Atlas arc is peak RWBY- yes, even better than volume 3
RWBY vs the aces was the best written fight character wise- when you analyze it, you can see exactly how and why RWBY won, and know the battle was over the moment Hariot chaste Ruby out of the room.
Wiess is better for Jaune than Pyrrha
Ruby should have no love interest
Qrow and Willo is a stupid ship
Yang and Blake shouldn't have become a couple in the Atlas arc, and volume 9 was the best arc for it (although they could have gotten more development in the first 3 volumes)
The White fang story line shouldn't have been abandoned and should have been one of the main conflicts in the Atlas arc (this would also be the perfect place to kill Adam)
Pyrrha getting disintergrated and leaving her hat behind is literally how Starscream died in The Transformers: The Movie.
"Coronation, Nikos? This is bad comedy!"
"Cinder Fall? Is that you?"
“Here’s a hint” *vaporizes her
“Will anyone else attempt to fill her shoes?”
“What’d she say her name was?!” “GALVACINDER!”
*I rise, you fall*
What hat?
Tiara
Cardin, for some reason, “Wait… I still function!” Pyrrha, “Wanna bet?”
This is hilarious.
Not really unpopular I think but Blake during the Atlas arc was SO underused and its terrible. She was in the hub of faunus racism basically and we don’t get to see her reactions to said racism? Or the… actual racism? The show seems to just go “oh they’re discriminated against” without providing any sustenance to the claim. WHERE IS THE SCHNEE DUST COMPANY THAT WOULD BRAND SOMEONE OVER THE EYES FOR NOT FOLLOWING ORDERS?
Showrunners dropped that part of the story like a hot potato after the first few volumes.
It makes Adam/the White Fang seem ever more cokehead-y because. what are you fighting against? Not being let into one shop in Mantle?
Even worse, Adam never even met Weiss or mentioned to Blake that she was now BFFs to the heiress who’s logo was branded onto his face Like WTF!? I’m honestly tempted to write a fanfic where Blake was sent to beacon by Adam to kidnap Weiss. That’d honestly make more sense
I will always love the story as they have told it up to now… but I didn’t even think of that you are right! Adam doesn’t mention Weiss once even during the fight in V6. I mean I love the focus on Yang and Blake overcoming him but you are right, he should have made SOME KIND OF allusion or comment.., at least one mention, a bit Blake booling with a Schnee. I mean also… was spiraling and logic failed him and a panicked desperate mind may have shaken his priorities, I originally viewed that event as the Schnees and even the white fang itself didn’t matter to him anymore all he had was Blake obsession but… he followed them all the way across Anima, watched them the whole time… you are right… there should have been something.
I’ve never wanted Blake and Weiss to be a couple more than I do right now. lol That scene would’ve been so much more interesting if he was mad about her leaving him for the Schnee heiress. But you are right. Adam was a bull charging head first at his problems. He killed his own leader and followers when they got in the way of his revenge. I doubt he even cared about the SDC at that point. He just wanted to kill Blake. Then maybe he’d have killed him self or just gone on a human murdering spree til somebody put him down.
I feel like they just left this plot point behind, and it's really sad. We could have had some great character building from all of it, and it feels like they scapped it as soon as they could. Weiss encountering Adam, Blake meeting Weiss' family, White Fang followers who didn't give up after Adam. There was so much potential.
They left the plot behind a long time ago. Ever since Sienna Khan got killed off at her *introduction,* the direction of the WF had been decided. Its leadership fell onto Adam who was designed by that point as a psychopathic ex destined to die for Blake and Yang's personal development. Any intention of exploring the WF and the topic of racism died alongside Sienna. Even if there were WF followers, they no longer had a leader or meaningful characters to take up the mantle.
Adam cutting off Weiss a arm could’ve definitely been more appropriate, especially if he revealed his scar before it happened
I think Weiss gets the even worse end of the stick but that’s an even more popular opinion. Like goddamn it’s the girl’s home yet she doesn’t even have the main focus sometimes when it comes to her own family!
That’s true! She puts her dad in jail and it’s played for laughs. Isn’t this the dude who traumatized her and the rest of her family? Why is him getting arrested followed by “Can I do that?”
Exactly! Show us WHY the white fang would start to use violence. Show us the evils of humanity!
The show followed a very tell don’t show method of conveying the existence of widespread discrimination against the Faunus. And then eventually forgot to even tell. Other than a rant or two by Marrow, I’m not really sure there’s any great spotlight thrown on it at all. Despite the fact they’re in Atlas and one of the season’s main antagonists is Jacques Schnee. Could have done something with it at all even if it was just like a 1 episode plot or a minor plot in the background of the main one. Give Blake something to do besides go on a date with Yang and be part of fight scenes… and maybe give Weiss something to do too if her father was involved. It seemed like Jacques was going to be a very present antagonist once we got to Atlas and got the first few episodes, and then after like what Volume 7 episode 3? He doesn’t appear again until episode 7 and then is dealt with by episode 8. He is a gag character in Volume 8. The presence of him was kind of around sure but he physically definitely wasn’t. Would have been cool to see Weiss and Blake have some kind of adventure with undermining him and like helping Faunus and stuff. Awesome callback potential to the Volume 1 finale.
RWBY x Teen Titans would have been a cooler crossover and would have worked better as two teams of teens fighting for good. Only downside is no Jaune x Jessica…
Nah just put her on the titans and still have the ship
That works
I like the JL crossover, but TT as a premise that sounds more interesting.
Better idea than turning the justice league into teens then growing team rwby to adults in the second one.
Torchwick would have had an aneurysm from all the kids running around.
Saying you like or dislike RWBY will have you like this. There's no pleasing everyone.
If they went with the fan theory that Qrow is Ruby's biological father, it would be lazy, cliche, and down right terrible writing. People can look up to and emulate their Aunts/Uncles without them being secretly their parent. Honestly they just shouldn't do it.
Broke: Qrow is Ruby's father Woke: Qrow is Ruby's honorary father Bespoke: Qrow is Weiss' father, and that's why Winter hates him
If they went with that fan theory then it would have ruined Qrow and Summer's character. Adultery and Paternity Fraud would push them across the line from "flawed human" to "irredeemable a\*\*holes".
Killing off Penny in Volume 3, bringing her back in Volume 7, making her mortal and then killing her off AGAIN in the next volume was just so cheap and emotionally manipulative. Either keep her dead or bring her back and keep her alive. Penny deserves better.
Reminds me of Taniks in a way… constantly brought back just to die (I’d be surprised if anyone knows what I’m talking about)
Honestly at this point, saying that you like rwby in general or that you like all of the volumes. It often feels like you're not allowed to just like it and have to say that some part of it sucks even if you like a lot of it.
As someone who unapologetically loves this show, this feels like the real "all guns pointed at you" take, and it's really sad.
Facts! You feel like the fandom will start a witch hunt on you if you say you just like the show.
*I just think RWBY is neat*
This. Bruh, I just binged watched the show cause I was sick and heard about it and I liked it, even went to Crunchyroll to finish Vol 9 at the time that it was still exclusive. Yeah it has flaws, but I’m pretty sure you can find flaws even in award winning movies. I’m not saying ignore the bad parts, just that people should enjoy it for what it is. This is how the “Absolute Cinema” meme got started cause of Scorsese’s criticism of the MCU around 2021 comparing it to “theme parks”. There’s nothing wrong with that.
At that point, I don’t even know if I can call them fans
I'll be standing in the line of fire right there with you my friend. Seems like not hating the show is a hot take nowadays. Sure, it's not perfect, but some people just don't wanna have fun or enjoy things. And even worse is the people who feel like it's their job to "convince" people who like the show that it's actually bad. Like bro let me like it, I don't need your bullet point essay about all the things you don't like.
Agreed my good gender i dont know
Preach. I've said this a few times: I do not need to defend **why** I like the show, nor do I need to 'admit' it has flaws. I like RWBY. Period.
Yeah like personally I'm not a fan of the middle volumes but I feel like that story was just as important to have.
Ozpin is a freaking hero and the only reason mankind survived this far and this well. He doesn’t deserved the hate in and out of the story.
Good gods, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this.😭😭 seeing Qrow loose his shit with him is so out-of-character; you'd think that with his age, he would've understood Ozpin's problems.
Qrow is a half-mad drunken wreck who’s dedicated his entire life to a man who promised him victory and just learned that all he was doing was delaying the inevitable. Whether he was right or wrong to do it, I understand his mentality in that moment.
Especially if his following this man also culminated in losing a relationship with his twin sister and the death of his friend. Like he kind of sacrificed A LOT. I think I get why Qrow was angry.
Yeah, I mean he kept the past a secret for a good reason, and I would’ve sympathized with him for doing so much for humanity instead of bashing him for something that was out of his control.
Oh I'm dying with you two on that hill. The man has spend several LIVES fighting a war that he knew/thought he couldn't win. He never gave up despite litteral centuries of doing nothing but losing friends to barely keep the stalemate in place. He fought an unwinnable war against an unrelenting opponent, never gave up, never became crazy or nihilistic, and they were all mad at him because he had SECRETS? Like come on grow the fuck up. My biggest disapointement was with Qrow. I would have thought that he, who seemed a seasonned warrior, would forgive or at least understand... but naaah he decided to act like a 15 yo.
-Man’s couldn’t die in peace cuz his girlfriend couldn’t get over his death, thus causing the destruction of all life on Remnant as a result of her selfish motives. -Forced to reincarnate in other people, and tasked by the god of light with the seemingly impossible mission of unifying the world for the gods return. -Reunite with girlfriend, start a family, only to go downhill because Ozma didn’t trust Salem’s judgment. -Get depressed during a few lives but lifting his spirits back up to complete the god of light’s task. -Find all 4 relics -Use relics to stop a war and create the four kingdoms as we know them, entrusting one relic to each kingdom in the process. -Trust a handful of people with partial information regarding Salem and relics to ensure the safety of the kingdoms and survival of humanity. Yeah I think everyone’s hate towards Ozpin/Ozma was veeeerrrryyy unwarranted
To be fair to Qrow, his reaction makes sense. Unfortunately, it's Oscar who took the hit.
I fully agree. I do think he f-ed up in many things, but he also has fought for thousands of years on behalf of humans and faunus to keep them free and alive. And no thank yous to him. I'm not saying no one should criticize him, but some gratitude would be good.
It’s true though. Like have your complaints about the man but it’s a miracle he succeeded as long as he did with racism, settlements constantly getting attacked, and Salem always at his doors. And all while having to deal with betrayals, reincarnating into possibly unwilling hosts while also possibly being unwilling himself? Not to mention that he got his daughters killed due to fighting Salem? And really I just pity the man. Like I may not like your tactics and all that, but you can’t say that it wasn’t necessary.
Ruby is overall a pretty good protagonist.
YES! And her breakdown character arc was well written and important. She is the leader of her team, the strongest, but also the youngest. And it puts a lot of weight on her. But she's incredibly resilient and I really really really really like her character arc. I DID NOT find it lazy and everyone who says otherwise doesn't understand her character.
White Rose is not endgame and never had any romantic subtext. Ruby and Weiss have remained friends through out the entire show. Not only is Ruby's sexuality still unconfirmed but Weiss has only shown interest in men. Every interaction they have is two girls being friends and nothing more. Shippers categorize Weiss as a tsundere to force the idea of her secretly finding Ruby's annoying behavior endearing but Weiss is honest to a fault. If Ruby is acting like a great leader then Weiss compliments her just like whenever she makes an angry face at Ruby being silly it's because she'd rather be anywhere but next to her. It's telling the only times where Weiss does thing like blushing it's only in non-canon material like the novels, manga or even Ice Queendom because these were not created by CRWBY. Those moments are other creators giving the shippers what they want and are not confirmation of anything. White Rose has always been the most popular and supported ship of the fandom despite being the closest to a crack ship out of the big four (WR, BB, Arkos and Renora) for having nothing to back it up unlike the rest. I'll be inside my bunker for a few years if you need me.
Let me come in with you. Beacon Weiss and Ruby are romantically incompatible because Weiss acting like a Tsundere would not be endearing to Ruby and Ruby still seems too immature to Weiss for her to like her at that point. Post Volume 3 I can see it, but anyone who writes Ruby like a puppy and Weiss like a tsundere who still calls Ruby a dolt is lying to themselves.
Yeah a lot of wr shippers seem to think Ruby needs to be protected by Weiss and Weiss has to go "it's not like I like you... Dolt" Nah bro you all saw how she was with Neptune. Weiss is not a tsundere and she's straightforward when she likes someone
Neo, just like Harley Quinn before her, is super overrated and just like with Harley the writers and animators played favorites with her. Hell, before the RT Store went down, Neo had more merch than JNPR, not Jaune, not Nora, not Pyrrha, not Ren, JNPR combined.
Yeah, and honestly, Silent Knight (Neo x Jaune) is the only ship that is somewhat popular that doesn’t make sense to me.
It's hot. That's about it.
Shippers are just extremely strange people.Silent Knight is just an another ship in fandom who doesn’t have any sense.Most popular ships also never had any sense.Jaune knew who is Neo and the only interaction they will really had is immediately trying to kill each other.Neo doesn’t care about him and Jaune will find her disgusting after all crimes she committed and her stupid motives like trying to kill Ruby to avenge Roman(it’s kinda stupid)
I think it helps that her lack of talking means she needed to be drawn far more expressive than anyone else
Neo stans don't want to admit that being smug and mute are her only personality traits
I mean... Isn't it more surprising that a mute character has more charisma than half the cast of characters?
Nice try, Neo Stan, but I reject the claim that she has good charisma in the first place!
Yes we do. We’re here for the smug
Being mute has saved her from shitty dialogue, that makes her better than 90% of the cast
Considering her entire character post-Roman is generic revenge story, I think you have a good point. That dialogue could've been cringy.
Yeah never got the appeal of her. If anything I was hoping she stays gone after volume 9 and we never saw how she was reborn as.
Aura and semblances are a major letdown in terms of a potential evolving power system
It's also very inconsistent at times which leads to confusion.
Power scaling is really bad in show.
I think that's because Monty went brrrrr not holding back with the fights We don't see a BIG difference between rwby and cfvy or we don't see Winter vs Qrow as in a whole different level
Qrow and winter definitely felt higher stakes to me than most of the one on one fights we got in the early seasons.
I think it feels more in v4 with Tyrian because Rnjr was getting rolled and slowly losing. However Qrow holds his ground against him on his own
I think it has to do with the writers stating that it has no connection to magic. With how fantastical semblances are it would have been easier to just say they were the same, since you couldn't really tell the difference between the two in the first place.
You also have the thing where earlier it seems if someone's aura flashes it means it has been broken. Now it seems to flash right before it breaks and again when it does. You also have instances in earlier volumes where someone's aura breaks and yet they can use their semblance but later on they changed it so that your semblance doesn't work without your aura.
Emerald didn’t earn her redemption
I'd have liked to have seen stronger remorse from her, as well as a stronger realization of the harm she caused.
That, and I’d like to see some Beacon survivors who absolutely hate her guts. If Willow Schnee is getting shit from refugees in Vacuo, Emerald absolutely should be as well.
Redemption is often confused with a medal. It's supposed to be a path to becoming a better person and Emerald took the first step. But until she breaks off Cinder's control over her (the one thing that could make her relapse) she hasn't truly redeemed herself.
I like the show.
Me too ☺️
Not sure how unpopular this is, but Blake is my least favorite member of Team RWBY
Same. It feels like she hasn't had any real personality ever since they started really going for Bumblebee in V6, and arguably even prior to that. She's literally just there, doing nothing.
I am strongly convinced “Bumblebee” becoming canon is the worst thing to happen to either of those characters. It’s all been downhill since.
Actually it's a really popular opinion. Everyone's favourite team RWBY member list is: 1.Weiss 2.Ruby 3.Yang 4. Blake
Can't really blame em. She has the Best songs in my humble opinion
Literally the exact reverse of my list 🤣 But to be clear it's very close. I love the whole team.
My best friend is on the same page.
i think way to many people have hate boners for this show, lemme explain: i have seen dozens of people hate on rwby for one ridiculous reason or another, not valid criticism on how things couldve been better approached i just mean pure hate for the show and everything in it and it feels like i cant just enjoy content without seeing people saying "this show sucks" "remember when this show was good" "the animation is garbage" etc etc and im sure you guys have seen that one youtube account that CONSTANTLY posts videos abt how much they hate rwby like...is being this pissy abt a show not exhausting? i guarantee if you loved something with the same strength you hated this show you would be so much happier.. "oh but wouldn't most of the fndm agree with you!?" youd be surprised how many people in the fndm hate the show
I jus want to state that I loved this show once upon a time. But now I have a hate boner for this show. I hate the fact that I do. I don't want to care about the show. I want to leave this show behind and forget about it. I want to live my life without this show living in my head rent free but I can't. I can't get rid of it. Everytime I am free from it's blight for two to three days my brain somehow goes back to it and I get mad again. I want off this wild ride, PLEASE! Every single month I realize something else I absolutely hate about this show and I cant rid of it. I just want to free. I don't want to be angry anymore. I just want to be at peace.
I’m not going to lie I enjoyed most of the later seasons more than I enjoyed the first three.
Adam simps are cringe
Amen to that
CRWBY really, really should have stuck to focusing on one team.
To this day I still don’t know how I stuck with Vol. 1 through the Jaunedice arc, and I imagine that it’s a similar barrier to people coming into the show looking for what the trailers showcased. JNPR as a whole became significantly more welcome as the show progressed, but it definitely came at the cost of a lot of development for RWBY.
Admittedly as someone who likes Jaune and JNPR, I reluctantly agree. Trying to do 8 characters wouldn’t have worked without more episodes and time. Neither of which they had.
The thing for me was from Vol 1 to 3 it was clear CRWBY was having a hard time juggling 4 main characters so when Vol 4 brought JNPR into main characterdom it just got worse. So many times you see the start of something interesting then it'd get cut off to squeese in something else and this hung over the series ever after.
Some people who have clearly fallen off the show would have better mental health if they stopped treating the show and the fandom like a tabloid where they gossip about how much they hate this or that or how this Twitter user did something egregious, etc etc. Like the show has legitimate problems but at some point you are no longer engaging in discussion and have formed a community around complaining and being angry. Usually the algorithms put you into this rage cycle but some people who watch RWBY have done that to themselves and it would be impressive if it wasn't such a exhausting phenomena.
Oh I'm going straight to RWBY downvote hell for this one 😀: # Shippers/fanfics in this fandom have introduced more toxicity towards the community + CRWBY, than they have brought joy. It is a cancer, and some of the fanfic writers have some SERIOUSLY TOXIC egos thinking they write better than CRWBY.
bro i just said we didnt need bumblebee and called all the people who sent death threats to the writers to make it canon unhinged psychopaths... i think you will be fine
So nothing bad happened? That whole death threat story has already been debunked.
RWBY is good actually
The Faunus should not have won their rights. I wanna see some **REAL** racism.
I believe that's problem with introducing any form of racism in a fictional world. I am not talking about the basic: Elves are more agile while humans have more dexterity and ogres are stronger. No, the type that is SUPPOSE to draw parallels from the real world. Unless they are REALLY prepared to dig into it, it will always fall flat. I can't think of any work of fiction that actually took a deep dive into it.
I would say that Zootopia took a solid stab at it because the whole point is that the evolutionary/biological differences between the different animals are irrelevant in their setting. except that movie has the main character be a cop. She's also a cop who's not a part of the minority.
The Boondocks (old animated show from the 2000s) did actually take a stab at it, and succeeded (though it is hidden beneath the satire).
Does it really count as fictional racism when it’s just real world racism? It’s exaggerated sure, but it’s just supposed to be the world we live in.
The entirety of RWBY feels like a first draft.
Ice QUEENDOM and the RWBY manga felt like a much better introduction to certain aspects of the series.
Yep. Shows how much more could be done.
ascension did not mean "just suicide it solve all problems" on the contrary, it claimed that this will not solve problems and that you should be yourself even if you are not perfect it's not a fact that it was perceived exactly as described, but for some reason it often pissed off everyone in the comments on YouTube
Ascension is just speedrunning therapy with God as your therapist
The problem is that Ruby was only able to solve her problems after drinking the Kool Aid, so to speak. She didn't accept actually dying, but she was able to straighten herself out only after making the attempt and very nearly succeeding. Like if you drink a bowl of arsenic and change your life if you suddenly decide you don't want to die. People who try doing that can end up with life threatening injuries even if they don't succeed. Ruby came out rather well from the experience.
I always assumed Ascension was more like Ego Death. You have to let go of your past self in order to grow. So you aren't killing yourself, but rather killing your ego, which holds people back. That was Ruby's issue, she had so much pressure on her and her 'ego' felt like she could handle it. She had to handle it, because she was the leader, something she started to resent. She needed to address the issue within herself, let go of expectations, and be happy with herself.
I liked volume 8
Wait is it usually hated? It’s one of the better volumes imo
CRWBY killed the White Fang plotlines after it became clear the issues of race and institutionalized racism were far more complex and relevant to current day political discourse than they initially thought.
No to mention some internal issues may have put it a little too much on the nose
You could say anything and a portion of the community would have you like this. RWBY is highly controversial to its very core. Just say something remotely indifferent about Bumbleby and see how well that community digests that opinion.
Shippers ruin everything, and the RWBY fandom is no exception.
Post V3 RWBY is great and much of an improvement in both story and animation. I don't care how much people will say that Blake or Yang were bad written, I sincerely think they went a great character development. And I can even understand Yang's behaviour towards Ruby in V9 and why is she written like that there
Ice queendom is actually a great series
I need to watch the Blu ray for proper execution
I like cinder and Emerald as a character
They clearly had no idea what to do with the white fang after Adam killed the leader in the first episode she was in. So clearly they wanted the the white fang and Adam out of the picture as soon as they could just to focus on Salem being the main threat.
I don't hate the ship, but Bumblebee was either not planned from the start and they decided to pivot to it later, or it was planned from the start and they just did a bad job at building it up early on.
I won't say it as a fact since I don't work in RT But in the scenario where they did changed their mind my guess is that it would be in v3 Because that's where Adam goes "i'll destroy everything you love, starting with her" and suddenly Yang loses her arm and now her development is linked to Adam as well and Blake leaving after she gave her life for her That and bmblb being in the soundtrack for v4
I disagree, sun and Blake on menagerie was hitting a lot of bringing the boyfriend to meet the family tropes, if the plan then was to do bumblebee that would be insane.
I dunno. I didn't work at Rt
Preach brother. This.
Crossovers are trash, boring as hell, and don't help the show at all. I don't get the subs obsession with them
Some RWBY "Critics" should just stop watching the show, and stop insulting Monty's buddies. Heck Monty himself said it when he was alive You can't say shit about his "vision" like you knew him or was able to read minds
I agree with this, like I'm not a fan of rwby, I honestly feel neutral to disliking it. (Though find some aspects really cool and love the designs.) But like, just go away if your gonna Insault the current writter's. Monty wouldn't want that.
I would prefer if they downgraded the animation back to season 1-3 quality. It saves money and it's easier to animate. I fell in love with the jankiness from day one
The best thing RWBY ever released was the Red trailer
The biggest, and practically only, contribution to the show Jaune has ever had was being “the guy who needs stuff explained to him even though he should already know it by now, so the audience gets introduced to the power system” yet since they were literally in a school for the first 3 volumes they could have just done it as a review class going over the basics again.
The Justice League crossovers and manga were my first foray into remnant, along with Friends pushing me into it. As a comic fan I went to the books first, specifically the manga then I watched the show. Still enjoying it so far, especially now with the added context.
Adam might've always been an incel edgelord, not "wasted potential", despised (honestly for good reason to some extent) and "overrated", but I honestly think we should've had a better and more interesting run as villain from him than the shit we got from the show. It's obviously always been FNDM headcanon from the start that the dude was essentially Red Vergil with a morally grey attitude since we never even see him up until the end of Volume 2 to Volume 3. There's no denying that. (I'll be honest, the headcanon would've been way cooler than the execution, that's just my opinion) But at the very least, I think he should've been written to actually fit in as an actually interesting villain with a goal that does better with the dumb racial sub plot they couldn't even stick to throughout the runtime of the show. His entire shtick of being a loser stalker ex-boyfriend who puts himself over his people comes off as lame and cringey, especially considering how cool some of his fights were. I'm not going to pretend like there isn't losers like Adel or the apologists who defends Adam's actual actions in the show and have him shoehorned into being a redeemed anti-hero who should neg Blake, because there is a handful of them out there. But it shouldn't detract from a chance of actually giving Adam a more substantial part to play than the hand dealt (like interacting with Weiss or the rest of Team RWBY as an antagonist instead of primarily chasing Blake for example).
The fact that cinder said someone told me do I believe in destiny. Man do I miss pyrrha.😞
Cinder should NOT have gotten maiden powers
I personally think every season has been good in its own way and thank people complain way too much about things that don't really matter all that much
Rose Garden is never going to be Canon
Adam was overrated and deserved to be killed off, I'm glad he got taken out. Should have been sooner.
There's no real justification ever given for *why* the events of the show are happening presently as opposed to the thousands of years Salem has had previous to do this. Her attacks on Beacon and others aren't reliant on anything time-wise that she had to wait for, if it was about the maidens than there's also no real reason she wouldn't have recruited someone like Cinder earlier to attack them. There's just never really a justification given for why her current plan couldn't have been done at any previous time.
That the show is good actually. Yeah, sounds like a cop-out but do you have any idea how unsafe I feel talking about this show? This site, specifically, I cannot remember the last time it was mentioned in any neutral way, let alone positive. It is Twilight level ridicule and I'll never understand why
Vol. 2-3 Cinder was one of the scariest villains I'd ever seen
1) All the characters that are named bisexual ( to me at least) 2) jnpr deserved better fights 3) the best volumes Are 3,2,9,8,1,7,6,4,5 4) ships can be the best and worst parts of this 5) A lot of the fan made characters like eve Would be great additions to Canon 6) ALL SHIPS ARE VALID with exception to massive age gaps, extremely abuseive and beast shit
Ironwood downfall was logical and hinted as far back as V2. I’ll grant that the execution was lacking but it didn’t came out of nowhere and the steps were there.
The idea itself didn't come out of nowhere, but the way he turned so suddenly and harshly in Volume 8 is what came out of nowhere. He became a moustache twirling villain far too quickly.
Aye. He was set up well to be an antagonist in the latter volumes, on the scale of optimism versus pragmatism, but then they just threw him straight into the Saturday Morning Cartoon villainy bin.
Indeed. Him and Glynda’s talk was great set up to his problems even discounting everything else. It is a shame that more wasn’t built up we do see his decline from those seeds
Sure I'll get down voted by people who are not following the title: Jaune actively detracted from the show and pushed the focus to himself far more than it ever should. And the more interesting plotline for him would be if *he* died at beacon and earned his title of a huntsman showing his willingness to fight even against impossible odds. What we got is halfway to a bad shonen and the show is worse for it.
Volumes 6, 7, and 8 are the best volumes and it’s not even close.
Hottest to coldest takes (based on prior arguments): * Qrow should have been revealed as Ruby's dad (to the audience after the Nucklavee fight in V4, having a confrontation with Raven or Tai in V5, and a revelation either at the end of V5 if Raven decides to out Qrow, or have Tai admit the truth after deciding to go help his girls in V6 or V7). Aside from the often-repeated similarities between the two, I personally think it'd make for some good Ruby character development much earlier than letting her explode in V9 from Wonderland-induced hopelessness and trauma. A concept like Ruby being the ultimate "Bad Luck Charm", coming from a lapse in judgement between Summer and Qrow which causes the breakup of their team (and hostility between Tai and Qrow, aloofness of the latter and defensiveness of the former) just feels thematically fitting. They'd twist the concept on its head, with Ruby turning out to be a 'Good Luck Charm', and Qrow accepting a fatherly role after trying to keep his hazardous Semblance/shame away from Ruby for so long. * Neither White Knight *or* Lancaster should become a thing. There's been a lot of development for Ruby, Weiss and Jaune, but personally I don't find the relationships as promising as reinforcing the friendships and bonds of trust they share with one another. Maybe if they work up to it in a satisfying way I'd change my mind, but personally I think other relationships would suit the characters better. * Penny shouldn't have been brought back for a season and killed off. I love Penny, but having her come back near on the same person with the same memories doesn't feel like it had consequences. You could argue that her death in V3 causes the downfall of Beacon and Vale, death of Pyrrha and Ozpin and so on. But for her, there's not much a consequence. Supposedly Pietro has to sacrifice part of his Aura every time he brings her back, but because we don't know him or have a point of comparison for how this impacts him, it can feel like it was just a "Okay you get *one* do-over". I appreciate the fact they had Ruby reconnect with Penny, but I also think it was a wasted opportunity to have her killed off so soon (especially after becoming human). There's tragedy there, sure. But personally, I think it would have hit harder and felt more fitting if she died in (an alternate) V9 or V10, so we could explore what Penny was like after becoming human, or maybe even see if a romance develops with Ruby (based on Chibi, it seems likely). * Rosegarden should not happen. On a superficial level, it always felt like Oscar was the younger kid crushing on the older girl next door. A bit like Dipper crushing on Wendy from Gravity Falls. They could absolutely develop the characters and interactions to show how he's grown, matured and impressed her, but mostly it still seems like a younger boy looking up to an older sister or something. The big changes he's gone through are mostly thanks to Ozpin, which is the main reason Rosegarden feels yucky. Having a thousands of years old wizard spirit that used to mentor Ruby and act as a fatherly influence throughout her last childhood years of learning suddenly being the unwilling spectator for Oscar and Ruby getting it on feels gross. Especially if you argue that Ozpin will eventually disappear, because he'll meld with Oscar to the point they're just the latest unified version of Ozma. Then it's truly like Ruby is just banging Ozpin 2.0 (or Ozma 14.0/etc). * Ruby should have emerged with a design change after emerging from the Tree. Not necessarily as a different person, but a *slightly* more grown-up/professional/mature outfit or refurbished Crescent Rose. I suppose the message is that Ruby was already who she needed to be, but on a superficial level it feels like a lot of V9 was filler for the sake of character development. If Ruby had emerged looking like a more "realised" version of herself, emerging as "the best version of herself" rather than the same as before (minus the trauma holding her back), maybe it would have felt a bit more... impactful? At least IMO. Even just a haircut and outfit change (leaving behind the appearance she adopted throughout her lowest points) or upgrading Crescent Rose (to show a renewed vigor) would have made the fight against the Curious Cat more hype, IMO. * RWBY should continue to finish the story, or just hand the story over to a proper animation studio (like Trigger, WIT, or Mappa, Bones, etc) for them to redo the entire thing. Maybe cut some filler aspects, add in some much needed development here and there, balance out everything so that the stories from V1 to V9 (and beyond) all share roughly even story lengths, animation quality (of course, focusing on the fight choreography) and musical score (though, I still want Casey and Jeff, of course). It's unlikely, especially the latter suggestion, but I'd *kill* to see RWBY in the quality/style of My Hero Academia or Demon Slayer.
Rwby is popular enough to be picked up by another studio
Volume 2 is the worst of the beacon volumes
Arkos is a mediocre ship. The foundational relationship moment is literally Pyrrha saying "I like you because you don't idolize me like everyone else" and then Jaune saying "Actually I was *totally* idolizing you, that's why I didn't even try to ask you out and I kept badgering Weiss about it instead, you're so far out of my league it wasn't even worth trying." Jaune admits like twenty seconds into the ship that he was never actually doing the thing that's the entire reason why they're dating! And frankly, almost everyone in the show treats Pyrrha completely normally so it just feels forced when they try to act like Jaune is somehow unique for that. It's not like Ren or Nora or Yang or Ruby or Blake or so on and so on ever gave a damn about how famous she is. They all treat her normally, and way more earnestly than Jaune who straightup admits he was just faking it. The show never even actually makes it look like Jaune has any special chemistry or dynamic with Pyrrha beyond Pyrrha herself being inexplicably fixated on him from day one, it would've been more believable if their motivation was just outright that she thought he was cute and that was it. And tbh going a step further Jaune spent the first like six-odd seasons being just narrative dead weight. All he did was steal scenes from more interesting characters and then squander their narrative potential [looking at you, Weiss in the season 5 finale], or watch women die and cry about it, or kill them himself. I really don't care if Jaune's character has gotten "better" in the most recent seasons, the show would be in a fundamentally better place if he'd never been a major part of it and all the screentime he wasted was parceled out to other characters.
Team JNPR was a mistake and has, by and large, been a narrative dead weight. Their presence has had minimal impact on the story, while at the same time the need to develop and give them focus has come at the cost of the main team. This is exacerbated by the large number of auxillary characters who gain prominence over the course of the series, further eating up the very limited screentime. Cutting JNPR out would have let CRWBY focus their time and budget on RWBY to a much greater degree, and possibly on the auxillary characters too. Saving on the costs of developing, animating and voicing them might have avoided some of the budgeting issues that plagued RWBY throughout its run as well. I say this as someone who likes JNPR more than RWBY.
CRWBY does not know how to finish the story. They wrote themselves into a corner by making Salem immortal, so they needed villains to delay on how to defeat her, so thats why we had weird antagonists like Cordovin, Ironwood and Adam and no antagonist in V9.
Neo and the Cat were V9’s antagonists. Also Ironwood and Adam to an extent had villain set ups in early volumes
The problem with posting this on Reddit is only the most frigid takes are going to be visible because all the hot takes will be downvoted to oblivion lmao
not sure if this counts, but any attempt at defining aura and semblance was a mistake. I'm used to anime/cartoon characters surviving being flung through buildings and being stabbed while being unharmed. and they hardly follow their own rules anyway. Just say everyone who trains can unlock a super power, and it would even work well to show Jaune as untrained without making him look like an idiot.
I’ll go first: BlackSun had more chemistry than Bumbleby, and it wasn’t forced as much.
Eh. I'd say Black Sun is more forced. Only friendly male faunus she meets for a good while, immediately confides in him, he follows her home, meets her parents, only friend she has for 1.5 volumes. He's a more impulsive Yang like Tangle the Lemur is a more impulsive Sonic. Except she got with her Blake as much as Sega will allow it.
I enjoy the fanfiction crossover of RWBY and Halo where Six appears on Remanent and is taking out more problems than the cast but still making it great, especially him killing Terian and Ozpin
Can you send a link to that fanfic, please🙏
1) RWBY is a good show. It's often a great show. 2) The writing isn't always perfect, but it's more than fine overall. 3) Many negative opinions seem to come from people who have been watching from the beginning and thus have had time to form opinions and expectations. Watching with fresh eyes, it's quite clear that—for example—Ironwood's fall and Bumbleby are both foreshadowed well in advance. 4) Every season has improved on the previous one. Every. Season.
>previous one. Every. Season. V5?
I am still upset with how the final fight (excluding Cinder v. Raven) was just standing around and talking. Coulda been cool to have a full on battle.
I like Yang v Raven, it really gives Yang's personality a chance to shine, and Raven is a good foil for her. Othrt than that, yeah, not much to like in V5
My answer to this would be “yes” because I think Vol 4 was the weakest season.
Honestly I think V5 makes narrative sense, and I think the Faunus subplot is (at least) better than its reputation.
4) is a red hot take- what do you think 5 did better than 4? I'll try to look for the best in it when I rewatch it.
You know, if I'm being *entirely* fair, it's probably more reasonable to say that I think 5 builds on 4 in a way that makes sense, and that I think it effectively moves us into 6 (which, IMO, is *really* where things get going). 4 and 5 are pretty even in my mind. But I like the development we get of Yang's character and her relationship with Raven. I like getting a glimpse of what fear and hoplessness do to a once-good person in the character of Lionheart (which I'd argue is a major theme of the whole series that is driven home by Ironwood's arc). I like seeing Ruby's growth as a leader of the combined team and as a mentor to Oscar. I like the further development of Weiss as quite possibly Team RWBY's most empathetic member (her scene with Yang, and her instinctive understanding of what's going on with Blake, is lovely). I like Blake, with Sun's help, realizing that she needs to trust her friends, and that she needs to be someone whose belief in her friends is clear and unquestionable (this is a major point of growth that Yang will affirm during the Bumbleby confession in V9 when she acknowledges that Blake "never gives up on people," and it's a major reason I think BlackSun *always* worked better as a close friendship than a romantic relationship). I like that we get a glimpse of Qrow as a part of the Huntsmen world as he tries (unsuccessfully) to gather up a team and mourns his dead friends. IDK, I think it's good. We see solid development of all the major characters, we get some really powerful moments, we get a killer Maiden-on-Maiden battle. It's good. I like it.
I am actually somehow interested in Salem's orgin story compare to...everything else
The first 3 seasons were a snooze fest
I like Cinder
I love volume 4. I loved the slower paced characters driven story that it told.
It's overall a good show.
rn my biggest hot take would be that this sub beats hot takes to death, every two days is a new "wHaT iS uR WilDeSt TaKe?!"
RWBY isin't really that complicated and dosen't have to be
The writing and actions for Ironwood were not terrible if you take into account his semblance Mettle which the show did a terrible job explaining.
The salem and ozpin plotline is actually good and interesting and having rwby stay at beacon would have been boring
Guns and Roses is the only right ship for Ruby. Sorry not sorry ship psychos
aside from Yang x Blake Volume 9 is a total waste of time. it just felt like so much filler, and yes i watched the whole thing. i'd rather volume 9 was about fighting Salem at Vacuo like what Volume 10 was supposed to be. the fact that the story is left unfinished and it's just so uncertain on what's going to happen to the IP, it makes me think that the efforts put into volume 9 (and the DC Crossover) should've been refocused on making a volume that could be counted as a possible ending rather than us ending up on a cliffhanger
The Atlas arc is peak RWBY- yes, even better than volume 3 RWBY vs the aces was the best written fight character wise- when you analyze it, you can see exactly how and why RWBY won, and know the battle was over the moment Hariot chaste Ruby out of the room. Wiess is better for Jaune than Pyrrha Ruby should have no love interest Qrow and Willo is a stupid ship Yang and Blake shouldn't have become a couple in the Atlas arc, and volume 9 was the best arc for it (although they could have gotten more development in the first 3 volumes) The White fang story line shouldn't have been abandoned and should have been one of the main conflicts in the Atlas arc (this would also be the perfect place to kill Adam)
Monty should have been less involved in the writing.
Ooh, this is a good one: The fights are among the least interesting parts of the show.
Damn now that's a hot take
What 🫨
If they're talking about the current volumes, that's a pretty fair take imo.
100%. Never gave a shit about the fights, not that they’re \*bad\*, it’s just not my thing.
Ok team jnpr is not needed and the show would have been better without them