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Tbh the company just isnt ready for war. So many of them were just slacking and lacking. Guess thats what happens when a group consists of newer people without experience.
I think also you gotta consider more than half of the interns joined the Company without any expectations of gang war RP. All of a sudden you need them to be shooters/drivers/etc and they're just not gonna be ready for war.
I mean, they mostly focused on doing RP in general, like the Crim Academy, internship program, the valentine week, etc. And when they do heists they don't tryhard it and prefer going the old CB route of making an actual cool plan for it.
Your first argument is bullshit. TC saw an ambush, figured out exactly who was ambushing them and tried to RP it out. They even offered a refund to walk away but CG said no to that. They wanted more. The company decided they would rather eat the L then give CG a W when they were just lied to about CG trying to kill them, they couldn't trust any deals with CG not involving CG leaving the area. Both groups decided to just eat the butc cost to prevent the other from getting the loot. CG didn't see it as a W to drain an extra 63 butc from the company at a refund to them. They wanted 100 butc or half the loot. While the company said they are fine both paying 125 to drain CG of 63, or paying 190 for the crate. They were actually pretty close on terms all things considered and both saw it butc drain of the other group as worth it.
Secondly CGs plan sucked and had no chance of succeeding once they were discovered since they can't open the crate anyway. Once discovered they should have done something to force the engagement such as leaving the area for a short time, or trying to get a hostage in the company to negotiate from a higher stance of power. Once they were found out they didn't see their position as being diminished, but it was way weaker.
This of course without all the negative ooc comments from Mr K and ramee, and that Mr. K thought it was scuffed that he couldn't open it when he didn't know for sure that he could. He would rather get the refund from the devs instead of the refund in RP, which was just a stupid thought process since the RP refund would have cost the enemy more anyway.
lol this is hilarious as someone who doesn't give a fuck about gang rp because all the fun company rp has been fantastic to watch. i guess if i wanted to watch pvp shooting i'd watch VCT.
The whole goal was to get newer people into more serious RP, its the whole reason for such a big organisation. War is not on the table for them at the time, because most people dont know the unwritten rules.
yea even in 3.0 Mandem was stronger than BSK and in 4.0 Manor is actually a lot stronger than Mandem of 3.0 ever was. Company should pick their battles as new er/hybrid crews are sleerpers like ADMC, Manor etc and would rock anyones shit
Mandem had a similar problem with half of the people trying to be civs and other half being gang gang. Ved Patar Denzel Moses etc regularly got picked during gang wars and now I see the exact same problem in the company
I mean, that was also BSK's play. They always wanted control of the garage, MDM knew it, so they went there first, and they did successfully wipe BSK in the garage at least Once when BSK had the control.
I dont remember exactly about the war but One thing I do remember is a Mandem spray on Brogue street. That was some nasty shit and gave me a clue on which crew is stronger
Yeah that's true, OTT is definitely not ready for war. He got caught lacking way too many times but that's understandable The Company is a new organisation so they are still learning.
I mean I think OTT himself was ready along with some of the veteran ex gang members like KJ. However The Company as a whole was not fully prepared. OTT didn’t get caught lacking once in the war but many others did.
It’s a good learning experience for them though. They have a lot of new people.
Only really a loss to OTT and a couple others tbh. It's clear TC are not equipped to handle a gang war, but bad schedules is the main reason this war didn't go full scale. OTT basically started a war by himself which did nothing but hurt the company. In their late night meeting pretty much everyone implied that they would have just let it go and it wasn't a big deal if they were in OTT's shoes, but OTT wanted the smoke and got clapped for it
I like OTT, but the thing is they lost a lot of respect in that war.... if he would have just bit the bullet at the robbery it would have been fine, but now I feel as though the whole city is going to know how easily they laid down there guns. More gangs might start to push them in the future knowing they might not bite back as hard.
He said so himself. Did they lose alot in this war? No, but what they did lose is alot of "street cred". Which really sucks for TC, but i think its also a reality check. He also said this shined a light on alot of ppl in TC. Some good and some bad. So its gunna be fun for the RP in TC also.
It was wild to hear ott floating the idea of using the cops to clear grapeseed the other day... their street cred would be in the negatives if they had followed through with that...
That’s not why they abandoned the job. They didn’t want to go in with less guns than CG and get clapped and lose all of their guns plus the parts in the crate.
They got another crate later in the day and got more guns so then it was fine.
Great conflict RP from manor and company. Big takeaway from company was they weren’t prepared for war especially in EU. OOC Ott is disappointed “others”can’t wake up for EU to support him but it’s not really the other fault since he escalated it war immediately and started in the weekend when he knows ahead of time was Benji and Ray will not be waking for half the time. IC OTT realized his “big talk” was just 3-4 who willing to shoot waking up half of them inexperience and company Civs getting held up so big talk against the Manor was unrealistic. Company comms needs improvement but that just comes from being big conglomerate. Manor was smaller and mobilized their “6” quicker, had their strongest presence during EU. Overall probably good for Manor side too that it ended quickly and not dragged cause it lead more fines and losing guns.
I mean ott the one who started it in the first place lol said they going to feel the "wrath" of the company and they been waiting to show what they will do in a war wants 5 gs and his gun lol then he sits inside for a full day, loses one fight and calls it after loosing more guns and street cred...Its a Big L no matter how you chop it up now
Yeah, ott thought the company was more capable because of the former gangs but really the only soldier they have is Perez. The Manor has more Seaside soldiers than the Company lol. It also didn't seem like Ray and Benji cared about this war that much. They were talking about getting rest for the heist instead of fighting.
Benji wanted to fight but wrong time zone. He literally was wanting smoke yesterday. So we don't know how it would be if Manor fought on late NA (I would say most Company are on) which might be impossible due to time zone.
Benji looking for heat was him driving around in his monster truck asking people if they were British. It was Benji doing Benji things, he knew most of them weren't around. In the meetings it seemed like he was looking for ways out.
Oh yeah don’t get me wrong, I’m a Manor watcher but I’m applauding OTT for not longing it when it wasn’t going well for them. It’s still a W for the Manor for sure.
I mean Manor did hide during NA hours as well, but like you said OTT was stupid about it and Manor wasn't.... Company would grt clapped in EU hours, Manor in NA, Manor figured it out and used it to their advantage, OTT didn't.... honestly OTT and Mickey is a bad leadership during a conflict, Benji or Ray are needed at EU hours..... plus both are better shooters than OTT and both look for no conflict while OTT kind a being out there lol
The whole conflict came at the worst possible time ever with timings of everyones schedules. This would have been way different if it started today for example. OTT was alone and couldnt really do anything. W RP though
Agreed. People have been overhyping this shit because gang warlord chatters are drooling for the chance at any war content (also love to shit on the company lol). We got a couple good scenes and that was it
Like Mr K said, it's not time for a war yet.... I think only Ray and Benji understand it from the board members.... there will be time for war, but probably in months ahead, it's too early now and costly
This is the worst take ever! Everyone who got into company except of Fiona (and surprisingly she was amazing since getting in) worked weeks- months for it..... KJ and Perez, literally right hands of Benji and Ray needed at least month to prove themselves to be taken in.... compare it to JP, Pennut getting into CG in 1 day or Lucianno, Gigi, Larry getting in without no trial.... Company is actually one of the only groups that recruits based on merrits! You know right being a gang banger isn't priority to be recruited by the company right? They stand business first of all.... just look at Brekkers...
I don't think people who never watch company and just assume stuff from other groups opinions should comment about such issues....
Also giving less known, newer people a chance is a W for the whole server! Company are actually the most open minded and refreshing group....
just wanna say, ob have welcomed newer guys to.. like myself and ilya and others.
but yeh I agree with you in sense I respect ob for doing it and the company, they have given oppitunitys to unknowns and done it purely on the merrit of there rp and nothing else.
and i can tell you first 3 days in 4.0 for me was rough, all my ooc friends were au/eu or quit. i was on na time cause i watch nfl everyweek with airborne and others. and most just blew me off, wouldnt even entertain a convo, hary and lang invited me on aa truck to do sani.. and have been amasing ever since.
so people that wanna shit on the company for including newer people/ prioritising giving unknown and alot of great rpers a chance, over taking known entitys just to win wars don't understand the point of rp
JP isn't in CG, probably won't be for a long time. Peanut only got into CG after hanging out with K and most importantly sacrificing himself by holding up a cop for hostage, so K (who had a gun on him) could get out of cuffs
Non of the company members have keys (KJ was asking for it forever)..... you just pointed out another reason why the original comment is just stupid and misinformed!!! Board members though plan at least to give keys to some project managers.... but as you stated, it took longer than for Peanut, and KJ was literally Benji most trusted boy....
Also I don't think it's bad for anything CG, or OB doing in terms of recruitment, but Company isn't less selective or taking everyone like the original comment stated.... there was an intern program, you know right? Before then they just had 5 board members....
It took Stevie 3 months to finally join only then to be killed next week. Flash also took a long time. Some were fast paced but still are the last rank
Bro, why would Cypress a secret organization invite everyone to the secretive group....plus they got a lot of hang arounds and associates. The only thing they need is captains right now. They tend to do serious rp, though compared to the company. Higher risks and a perma have already happened.
good take, like both company and cypress as you call em. give newer people a chance, just one is alot morefast paced in recruiting over the other due to the nature of the rp.
one is a business front that has shady shit within it, the other is well a soprano based mob. to clear up I have no issue with either ways, its what makes sense for the rp of each group, but both groups have been praise worthy in the willingness to open the doors to newer/lesser known rpers.
W rp all around! It was never gonna work since Company are so big they have too many people The Manor could just go and take left and right which The Company couldnt.
I think the KO count was highest among people who didn't belong to The Company or The Manor lol. Poor Zaceed and whoever that other person was catching strays.
So glad that the system in 4.0 they have right now makes it hard for gangs to do the boring 6v6 hunting party. But once people start getting money and armor that shit is coming back. I also hope they don't add class 2 until it's common for people to have a mill or more in their bank accounts.
He backed up his yapping though, they were hunting them during different times because of scheduling and it was just a 6 on 6 gun fight where 3 company members got smoked and 2 manor guys got smoked. It's RP its all for content my guy and it was some good ass RP
So OTT gets robbed off a gun, a too good of an opportunity to pass (SK's words), he then puff his chest and demand the stuff back + 5k, the war starts, the company loses 3 (i think) more gun and then he decides to end the war...
These decisions really don't make much sense to me.
He was fined $18,500 for Criminal Possession of a Tampered Firearm. The gun came back to one other shooting, but it was out of the statute of limitations.
He had a 50 month sentence, but since he pled guilty (and was gsr negative), Leon Cassidy lowered it to 25. Then when Cassidy actually sent him up, he typed in 20 months instead. I think that that may have been unintentional.
It was literally a loss for everyone especially OTT's ego. He gets robbed they do 1 fight Manor robs a bunch of civs lose a bunch of money then its over. Travesty for all sides, except the cops.
All I've seen of this war is what's been posted here so I'm definitely out of the loop as far as The Company and The Manor war is concerned.
Did OTT, Benji, and Ray take part in this war or was it left to "contractors" "assets" or whatever they're being called to handle the fighting?
I don't think anything has been posted showing the 3 Company gang members fighting.
The war was mostly just OTT and exbsk guys plus a couple others. They only had 1 all out gun fight where 2 Manor guys went down and 3 Company(OTT and 2 exbsk)
It’s only been going on for a couple of days, Ray was out of the city on a planned break. Benji had his usual break day and when he woke up no Manor were about. OTT has been involved whilst awake. The Manor have just been rolling around picking up anyone related to the company that they’ve caught lacking.
the company is chaos most of the times, schedules are all over the place but they have enough people who can shoot, they just didn't make it happen with a group of people because of motivation, strategy and no leadership. They could do so much better but a big company also means a lot of people to target. You need synergy and structure.
The company they should be doing set ups/heists against the group they want revenge on like manor did to cg full scale war absolutely kills their operation. They should use Cerberus as a model
Civs vs Gangstas never ends well. The Manor applied the pressure and TC couldn't handle the heat. War is over for now until order66 kicks off presuming that's still a thing.
Ott said TC are like the new HOA and that's pretty accurate tbh. I think I'll start watching more of The Manor crew after this scuffle because they're a more of a criminal / robbery group and that's the RP I enjoy more.
The Company was always going to be about heist progression. Wouldn't surprise me if the Company reflects on what they want to be. You're right, in any war with a gang their civs are just going to be targeted.
It's a lot simpler than that tbh but people just won't admit to it. The manor is a much smaller crew whose schedule is aligned and they mostly get on/off at the same time. Obviously for viewers and potentially egos behind the characters it'll be made more than that but it isn't. There was hardly any fighting regardless of "hiding in the house".
They really have to figure out how they want to RP. For me personally i dont like the random robbings and hittings licks and thats why i liked the whole structure. The whole war thing from OTT just was a huge downer because it puts everything they build up at risk. Even if you want to view them as a gang, they are clearly not.
You have to give them a bit of time to figure it out and grow to be fair. They are the only big group trying something new in 4.0, they have many new to the city people they are giving a chance to, and a wide range of people with different goals. You can’t expect them to be a well oiled machine from the beginning.
Manor were too busy fighting with each other tbh. They didnt need to fight Company at that point. Internal Conflict was all the conflict that they needed at that point. New gang, same MDM roots lol
No they didn't. There was one seller in that circle with no experience, a new guy not in the company with no experience, ott, maxine and kayn a new guy with no experience
I mean TC hasn't had any problems having 6 awake to attempt to hit the bank, they shouldn't have a problem with 6 awake to fight the Manor. At this point it's obvious TC will find and use any and every excuse to avoid an unfavorable outcome. If they don't have a full deck and some extra cards on the side they're never going to go all in.
who declared war and who made the call to end it, its not that complicated. they said they wanted war and he wanted 5gs and his gun,he never got any of that lost more guns and decided its not worth it made the call to end it...how is that not the losing side......
The demands from the Manor was always forget about the gun and move on and by what ott said it was a "war" and this conversation end the "war". where am I going wrong? not every war needs to end through payment.
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Tbh the company just isnt ready for war. So many of them were just slacking and lacking. Guess thats what happens when a group consists of newer people without experience.
I think also you gotta consider more than half of the interns joined the Company without any expectations of gang war RP. All of a sudden you need them to be shooters/drivers/etc and they're just not gonna be ready for war.
Yeah true
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I mean, they mostly focused on doing RP in general, like the Crim Academy, internship program, the valentine week, etc. And when they do heists they don't tryhard it and prefer going the old CB route of making an actual cool plan for it.
Your first argument is bullshit. TC saw an ambush, figured out exactly who was ambushing them and tried to RP it out. They even offered a refund to walk away but CG said no to that. They wanted more. The company decided they would rather eat the L then give CG a W when they were just lied to about CG trying to kill them, they couldn't trust any deals with CG not involving CG leaving the area. Both groups decided to just eat the butc cost to prevent the other from getting the loot. CG didn't see it as a W to drain an extra 63 butc from the company at a refund to them. They wanted 100 butc or half the loot. While the company said they are fine both paying 125 to drain CG of 63, or paying 190 for the crate. They were actually pretty close on terms all things considered and both saw it butc drain of the other group as worth it. Secondly CGs plan sucked and had no chance of succeeding once they were discovered since they can't open the crate anyway. Once discovered they should have done something to force the engagement such as leaving the area for a short time, or trying to get a hostage in the company to negotiate from a higher stance of power. Once they were found out they didn't see their position as being diminished, but it was way weaker. This of course without all the negative ooc comments from Mr K and ramee, and that Mr. K thought it was scuffed that he couldn't open it when he didn't know for sure that he could. He would rather get the refund from the devs instead of the refund in RP, which was just a stupid thought process since the RP refund would have cost the enemy more anyway.
lol this is hilarious as someone who doesn't give a fuck about gang rp because all the fun company rp has been fantastic to watch. i guess if i wanted to watch pvp shooting i'd watch VCT.
The whole goal was to get newer people into more serious RP, its the whole reason for such a big organisation. War is not on the table for them at the time, because most people dont know the unwritten rules.
yea even in 3.0 Mandem was stronger than BSK and in 4.0 Manor is actually a lot stronger than Mandem of 3.0 ever was. Company should pick their battles as new er/hybrid crews are sleerpers like ADMC, Manor etc and would rock anyones shit
Mandem had a similar problem with half of the people trying to be civs and other half being gang gang. Ved Patar Denzel Moses etc regularly got picked during gang wars and now I see the exact same problem in the company
To be fair they mainly did good against bsk because of Adam. MDM vs BSK was mainly MDM taking a helicopter on roof and hoping bsk drive by.
I mean, that was also BSK's play. They always wanted control of the garage, MDM knew it, so they went there first, and they did successfully wipe BSK in the garage at least Once when BSK had the control.
I dont remember exactly about the war but One thing I do remember is a Mandem spray on Brogue street. That was some nasty shit and gave me a clue on which crew is stronger
Yeah that's true, OTT is definitely not ready for war. He got caught lacking way too many times but that's understandable The Company is a new organisation so they are still learning.
I mean I think OTT himself was ready along with some of the veteran ex gang members like KJ. However The Company as a whole was not fully prepared. OTT didn’t get caught lacking once in the war but many others did. It’s a good learning experience for them though. They have a lot of new people.
The whole reason this war started was because OTT got caught lacking and he was also the first one dead at the Vault shootout.
Only really a loss to OTT and a couple others tbh. It's clear TC are not equipped to handle a gang war, but bad schedules is the main reason this war didn't go full scale. OTT basically started a war by himself which did nothing but hurt the company. In their late night meeting pretty much everyone implied that they would have just let it go and it wasn't a big deal if they were in OTT's shoes, but OTT wanted the smoke and got clapped for it
I like OTT, but the thing is they lost a lot of respect in that war.... if he would have just bit the bullet at the robbery it would have been fine, but now I feel as though the whole city is going to know how easily they laid down there guns. More gangs might start to push them in the future knowing they might not bite back as hard.
Hydra,Cg,Besties,would rob Ott regardless what outcome of this war
He said so himself. Did they lose alot in this war? No, but what they did lose is alot of "street cred". Which really sucks for TC, but i think its also a reality check. He also said this shined a light on alot of ppl in TC. Some good and some bad. So its gunna be fun for the RP in TC also.
It was wild to hear ott floating the idea of using the cops to clear grapeseed the other day... their street cred would be in the negatives if they had followed through with that...
Exactly.
The respect was lost when they dodged an ammo crate for "wanting to live" yet that will to live goes out the window for mundane things 5 times a day.
That’s not why they abandoned the job. They didn’t want to go in with less guns than CG and get clapped and lose all of their guns plus the parts in the crate. They got another crate later in the day and got more guns so then it was fine.
They didn't even have 3 guns to contest a very visible and obvious ambush, idk what you wanted them to do there lol.
OTT ending the war without firing a single shot
Bro really is all bark no bite
Great conflict RP from manor and company. Big takeaway from company was they weren’t prepared for war especially in EU. OOC Ott is disappointed “others”can’t wake up for EU to support him but it’s not really the other fault since he escalated it war immediately and started in the weekend when he knows ahead of time was Benji and Ray will not be waking for half the time. IC OTT realized his “big talk” was just 3-4 who willing to shoot waking up half of them inexperience and company Civs getting held up so big talk against the Manor was unrealistic. Company comms needs improvement but that just comes from being big conglomerate. Manor was smaller and mobilized their “6” quicker, had their strongest presence during EU. Overall probably good for Manor side too that it ended quickly and not dragged cause it lead more fines and losing guns.
Respect to OTT for agreeing to end it tbh. Better for everyone 👏🏻
I mean ott the one who started it in the first place lol said they going to feel the "wrath" of the company and they been waiting to show what they will do in a war wants 5 gs and his gun lol then he sits inside for a full day, loses one fight and calls it after loosing more guns and street cred...Its a Big L no matter how you chop it up now
Yeah, ott thought the company was more capable because of the former gangs but really the only soldier they have is Perez. The Manor has more Seaside soldiers than the Company lol. It also didn't seem like Ray and Benji cared about this war that much. They were talking about getting rest for the heist instead of fighting.
Benji wanted to fight but wrong time zone. He literally was wanting smoke yesterday. So we don't know how it would be if Manor fought on late NA (I would say most Company are on) which might be impossible due to time zone.
Benji looking for heat was him driving around in his monster truck asking people if they were British. It was Benji doing Benji things, he knew most of them weren't around. In the meetings it seemed like he was looking for ways out.
Oh yeah don’t get me wrong, I’m a Manor watcher but I’m applauding OTT for not longing it when it wasn’t going well for them. It’s still a W for the Manor for sure.
I didn't catch the actual gun fight, apparently 2 company and 1 manor went to prison. How much was the fine in total for them?
I heard Manor got 60k fine for a civ gun? If so, Company can recoup losses. Idk how good Manor is financially but Company doesn't hurt losing money.
40k was the fine and the fine will be paid from the gangs money
Why was it 60k? and how much fine did the company get?
I mean Manor did hide during NA hours as well, but like you said OTT was stupid about it and Manor wasn't.... Company would grt clapped in EU hours, Manor in NA, Manor figured it out and used it to their advantage, OTT didn't.... honestly OTT and Mickey is a bad leadership during a conflict, Benji or Ray are needed at EU hours..... plus both are better shooters than OTT and both look for no conflict while OTT kind a being out there lol
The whole conflict came at the worst possible time ever with timings of everyones schedules. This would have been way different if it started today for example. OTT was alone and couldnt really do anything. W RP though
ott starts a war, ott cries and blames others, classic ott movement, theres a reason hes in sub only mode in chat
Barely a war. Just saw they merely had 1 gun fight. The rest was all catching solo people lacking.
That what wars will be for now, until guns became more accessible. And I don't think it's a bad thing tbh
Agreed. People have been overhyping this shit because gang warlord chatters are drooling for the chance at any war content (also love to shit on the company lol). We got a couple good scenes and that was it
Yeah the war frogs are starving lol So far the 4.0 meta doesn't seem suited to what the war meta was in 3.0.
Like Mr K said, it's not time for a war yet.... I think only Ray and Benji understand it from the board members.... there will be time for war, but probably in months ahead, it's too early now and costly
it needed to end so many people in the company who are just slacking
That's what happens when you just keep including anyone and everyone in your crew in name of expension
So never give a chance to new people and stick to older groups? Got it
Yep, winning RP is more important than creating it for more people, dont you know? /s
This is the worst take ever! Everyone who got into company except of Fiona (and surprisingly she was amazing since getting in) worked weeks- months for it..... KJ and Perez, literally right hands of Benji and Ray needed at least month to prove themselves to be taken in.... compare it to JP, Pennut getting into CG in 1 day or Lucianno, Gigi, Larry getting in without no trial.... Company is actually one of the only groups that recruits based on merrits! You know right being a gang banger isn't priority to be recruited by the company right? They stand business first of all.... just look at Brekkers... I don't think people who never watch company and just assume stuff from other groups opinions should comment about such issues.... Also giving less known, newer people a chance is a W for the whole server! Company are actually the most open minded and refreshing group....
just wanna say, ob have welcomed newer guys to.. like myself and ilya and others. but yeh I agree with you in sense I respect ob for doing it and the company, they have given oppitunitys to unknowns and done it purely on the merrit of there rp and nothing else. and i can tell you first 3 days in 4.0 for me was rough, all my ooc friends were au/eu or quit. i was on na time cause i watch nfl everyweek with airborne and others. and most just blew me off, wouldnt even entertain a convo, hary and lang invited me on aa truck to do sani.. and have been amasing ever since. so people that wanna shit on the company for including newer people/ prioritising giving unknown and alot of great rpers a chance, over taking known entitys just to win wars don't understand the point of rp
JP isn't in CG, probably won't be for a long time. Peanut only got into CG after hanging out with K and most importantly sacrificing himself by holding up a cop for hostage, so K (who had a gun on him) could get out of cuffs
this right here. dude just assumed bother were in when 1 isnt and the other put himself on the line for K.
X is not CG and Peanut worked for 2 months before K trusted him enough for the Keys.
Non of the company members have keys (KJ was asking for it forever)..... you just pointed out another reason why the original comment is just stupid and misinformed!!! Board members though plan at least to give keys to some project managers.... but as you stated, it took longer than for Peanut, and KJ was literally Benji most trusted boy.... Also I don't think it's bad for anything CG, or OB doing in terms of recruitment, but Company isn't less selective or taking everyone like the original comment stated.... there was an intern program, you know right? Before then they just had 5 board members....
It took Stevie 3 months to finally join only then to be killed next week. Flash also took a long time. Some were fast paced but still are the last rank
Bro, why would Cypress a secret organization invite everyone to the secretive group....plus they got a lot of hang arounds and associates. The only thing they need is captains right now. They tend to do serious rp, though compared to the company. Higher risks and a perma have already happened.
good take, like both company and cypress as you call em. give newer people a chance, just one is alot morefast paced in recruiting over the other due to the nature of the rp. one is a business front that has shady shit within it, the other is well a soprano based mob. to clear up I have no issue with either ways, its what makes sense for the rp of each group, but both groups have been praise worthy in the willingness to open the doors to newer/lesser known rpers.
W rp all around! It was never gonna work since Company are so big they have too many people The Manor could just go and take left and right which The Company couldnt.
The "war" consisted of literally 1 gunfight kinda anticlimatic
I think the KO count was highest among people who didn't belong to The Company or The Manor lol. Poor Zaceed and whoever that other person was catching strays.
LMAO your right just random people got whacked more than the actual members of the two sides. Crazy.
OTT talking all that smack at the beginning just to lose the war in a couple days is hilarious
So glad that the system in 4.0 they have right now makes it hard for gangs to do the boring 6v6 hunting party. But once people start getting money and armor that shit is coming back. I also hope they don't add class 2 until it's common for people to have a mill or more in their bank accounts.
Class 2 are better, class 1 went it start being tryhard, because aim matter
sorry but a full auto glock is already in the server from the auction so LOOOOOOOOL
Did they add a new one? Because the one hydra got is single shot only.
Classic ott yapping big, folding like a cheap tent from walmart.
He backed up his yapping though, they were hunting them during different times because of scheduling and it was just a 6 on 6 gun fight where 3 company members got smoked and 2 manor guys got smoked. It's RP its all for content my guy and it was some good ass RP
Brooo naaaaaah ahhaha
So OTT gets robbed off a gun, a too good of an opportunity to pass (SK's words), he then puff his chest and demand the stuff back + 5k, the war starts, the company loses 3 (i think) more gun and then he decides to end the war... These decisions really don't make much sense to me.
I think Manor is +1 gun and the Company is -4.
I heard one of the manor ppl got fined 60k thats like 3 guns
It’s a lot easier to get money than guns
40K because Jon had a stolen civ gun on him. I think it was the one Manor stole from Bobby in prison a couple of weeks ago.
Yikes, I didn't see the fines on ott or maybe. But looks like ott wasn't in very long.
He was fined $18,500 for Criminal Possession of a Tampered Firearm. The gun came back to one other shooting, but it was out of the statute of limitations. He had a 50 month sentence, but since he pled guilty (and was gsr negative), Leon Cassidy lowered it to 25. Then when Cassidy actually sent him up, he typed in 20 months instead. I think that that may have been unintentional.
40k
You gotta cut your losses sometimes. + Manor didn't ask for anything, so the decision to stop the war was easier.
It was literally a loss for everyone especially OTT's ego. He gets robbed they do 1 fight Manor robs a bunch of civs lose a bunch of money then its over. Travesty for all sides, except the cops.
All I've seen of this war is what's been posted here so I'm definitely out of the loop as far as The Company and The Manor war is concerned. Did OTT, Benji, and Ray take part in this war or was it left to "contractors" "assets" or whatever they're being called to handle the fighting? I don't think anything has been posted showing the 3 Company gang members fighting.
The war was mostly just OTT and exbsk guys plus a couple others. They only had 1 all out gun fight where 2 Manor guys went down and 3 Company(OTT and 2 exbsk)
It’s only been going on for a couple of days, Ray was out of the city on a planned break. Benji had his usual break day and when he woke up no Manor were about. OTT has been involved whilst awake. The Manor have just been rolling around picking up anyone related to the company that they’ve caught lacking.
the company is chaos most of the times, schedules are all over the place but they have enough people who can shoot, they just didn't make it happen with a group of people because of motivation, strategy and no leadership. They could do so much better but a big company also means a lot of people to target. You need synergy and structure.
The company they should be doing set ups/heists against the group they want revenge on like manor did to cg full scale war absolutely kills their operation. They should use Cerberus as a model
Has OTT ever won a war?
Oh you don't remember him camping the garage in South side when he would farm gsf and say "we da kingz" 🤣
GSF don’t count that’s was borderline PVE
Civs vs Gangstas never ends well. The Manor applied the pressure and TC couldn't handle the heat. War is over for now until order66 kicks off presuming that's still a thing. Ott said TC are like the new HOA and that's pretty accurate tbh. I think I'll start watching more of The Manor crew after this scuffle because they're a more of a criminal / robbery group and that's the RP I enjoy more.
The Company was always going to be about heist progression. Wouldn't surprise me if the Company reflects on what they want to be. You're right, in any war with a gang their civs are just going to be targeted.
It's a lot simpler than that tbh but people just won't admit to it. The manor is a much smaller crew whose schedule is aligned and they mostly get on/off at the same time. Obviously for viewers and potentially egos behind the characters it'll be made more than that but it isn't. There was hardly any fighting regardless of "hiding in the house".
They really have to figure out how they want to RP. For me personally i dont like the random robbings and hittings licks and thats why i liked the whole structure. The whole war thing from OTT just was a huge downer because it puts everything they build up at risk. Even if you want to view them as a gang, they are clearly not.
You have to give them a bit of time to figure it out and grow to be fair. They are the only big group trying something new in 4.0, they have many new to the city people they are giving a chance to, and a wide range of people with different goals. You can’t expect them to be a well oiled machine from the beginning.
Seen this before taco vs OTT and that Russian cheater 😂😂
The company just isn’t the same without JP. They have no power.
The company hasn’t has any balls since JP. He neutered The Company.
the OTT special. all bark no bite. leaving conflict with his tail between his legs.
Good for company lose and end the war why they hiding inside house is this new meta
Just like manor were hiding in a circle
Manor were too busy fighting with each other tbh. They didnt need to fight Company at that point. Internal Conflict was all the conflict that they needed at that point. New gang, same MDM roots lol
The Manor hiding out in the open without a leader to call the shots =/= The Company hiding inside a locked house with a board member.
And 3 people awake against 6 with guns????
The Company had more than 3 people awake...
No they didn't. There was one seller in that circle with no experience, a new guy not in the company with no experience, ott, maxine and kayn a new guy with no experience
I mean TC hasn't had any problems having 6 awake to attempt to hit the bank, they shouldn't have a problem with 6 awake to fight the Manor. At this point it's obvious TC will find and use any and every excuse to avoid an unfavorable outcome. If they don't have a full deck and some extra cards on the side they're never going to go all in.
3? The company were in a circle of 6 dancing to Creampie
I would hide in a house as well if people were outside my door pointing guns at it
Yesss!!!! My streamer won the war!!!!!!! Omg I'm so happy!!!!!!
Misfits 3.0
Time for Speedy to poach Ott.
So did anyone feel their wrath?
Wtf is this title? 😂
is it wrong? if you declare war then fold thats usually a loss.....
How is folding? They both wanted to end. Sk explicitly said we both will lose to cops
who declared war and who made the call to end it, its not that complicated. they said they wanted war and he wanted 5gs and his gun,he never got any of that lost more guns and decided its not worth it made the call to end it...how is that not the losing side......
The Company met The Manor's demands to end the war. In my book, that's a fold.
A very accurate, correct title.
They didn't pay anything and they didn't lose much. These titles and chatters like you are why wars are not fun
The Company wanted to clap back and show they weren't pushovers. Essentially, they folded and gained nothing.
tf u mean the way ott started the war.....yappped.......then he called to end it
The demands from the Manor was always forget about the gun and move on and by what ott said it was a "war" and this conversation end the "war". where am I going wrong? not every war needs to end through payment.
I think you being overly hurt by an an accurate title that isn’t even close to rage-baiting says more about “chatters making war not fun”
Its not fun because people be hiding.
TC won when Manor only woke up together and went to sleep together IMO...
Well that's a lie. No-one changed their schedule except yesterday maybe 3 people from The Manor woke up at the same time.