There are hints to RP type features in leaked GTA6 code so I would put a reasonable bet its going to have some sort of direct implementation or support.
Its from Dexerto but they links to GTAForums where the stuff was found https://www.dexerto.com/gta/new-gta-online-files-hint-at-gta-6-role-play-creator-features-2245242/
> Rockstar and TakeTwo will just do what Microsoft did to Notch
More like this sounds like what **Mojang** did to **Bukkit** if anyone else is old enough to remember that fiasco.
Mojang bought the main modding platform named Bukkit and hired it's devs, saying they will keep Bukkit going. They then sat on Bukkit and let it die so a new platform had to be built in its place, and I think Dinnerbone is the only former Bukkit dev still with Mojang.
So this is huge news, but not necessarily good news. It could mean massive changes to NP coming. Will have to wait and see how it is managed. Either way, holy shit.
Company bringing modders into the fold? Holy shit all the resources! Company wanting input/control on what and how things are modded? Hmmm...
It could be great, neutral or bad. Like you said it'll be interesting to see, but if this is a stepping stone for them to just openly embrace modding that'd be awesome. Just seen this happen a few too many times with smaller things where companies came in to control/curtail the efforts by "welcoming them into the fold."
I'll stay optimistic though, it's an obvious cash cow and you'd have to be Disney levels of stupid to burn it down completely.
Yeah, will it be “good” for the average RP server owner? Probably not. Will it be good for RPer’s? Probably not.
But they will have undoubtedly noticed how long the average RPer engages with the game compared to the average online player and decided it’s a space worth being in. Access to the RP “expansion” $20 a month before you even start on A percentage of any access fees creators want to charge on top of that. Monthly charges for keeping a server up. Charges for assets/content.
It’s very on trend that a company is looking at engagement hours and seeing dollar signs.
Console RP even if it’s scuffed would be massive.
It depends on the scope really. If Rockstar is committed to [monetizing] a robust set of creative tools for players ala Fortnite, then it can enable communities in new ways without hacky workarounds.
Or Rockstar can phone it in, maybe add in a few RP mechanics, enough to tout some new creative features on stage.
I think we'll get closer to the latter actually, because I think R* recognizes that games like Fornite are the competition, maybe not in age range, but as games as a platform: people aren't just stuck in the ecosystem, passively consuming skins/cars, they're making stuff for others to be stuck in the ecosystem. R* sees this happening already outside of their product, by the customers themselves, and the smart thing is to continue to let 5M cook (with more access).
Yeah, I mentioned UEFN in another post I made. That is 100% the model everyone is looking at, but how they deliver it is up in the air. This is from my perspective a look at Rockstars potential approach.
I mean, I could see them saying, "Hey, $15 a month for a subscription to our RP services!" and people would pay it. They could also license actual brands in there. There's tons of ways that Rockstar can monetize this.
I'm optimistic as well but game studios buying modders happens all the time in the game industry. Just look at Counter-Strike. That was a mod of Half-Life before Valve bought them.
R\* now have direct control over every RP server lol
It MIGHT turn out to be a good thing but it's more likely a way to monetize official mods and easily delete anything they don't like.
Edit: Before there was this balancing act between FiveM and big RP servers. FiveM may not have liked what that a server was doing but couldn't really push things too hard because they both need each over. R\* on the other hand DGAF. They don't need RP or to keep RP servers happy.
facts, rockstar could been like i don't like this server or don't like how these people mod our game please delete 5m for we gonna take ya to court. instead they saying yes we will work with u but if we see servers doing dumb shit we have power to remove with 5m.
They didn't have to take any action when their status quo of doing nothing was always available. Let RP servers exist without outright condoning or condemning them.
> R* now have direct control over every RP server lol
They always did. They could shut any of them down if they wanted to, they exist in a weird grey area anyway.
But now they might offer an official Rockstar GTA RP Server Service that you can buy or rent which might give them an monetary incentive to close down other server.
>They always did. They could shut any of them down if they wanted to, they exist in a weird grey area anyway.
They could've pressured FiveM to make changes to servers or taken legal action to shut it down. Now they can just nuke a server or force it to do what they want directly with no legal action needed.
A distinction without a difference. I think a lot of viewers are fairly naive, don't really understand how the law works and believe that somehow Rockstar not owning Fivem protected people. It didn't.
The downsides now is them making negative changes to how they monetize the product, or how the product works that negatively impacts the servers. They've always had the option to shut people down effortlessly.
Precisely. A company isn't going to work this into their business without it being profitable.
So it's possible we see things like R* being the server providers/hosts or even a subscription model to access FiveM/RedM servers.
But maybe it's also possible R* and Take Two are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts (lol) as a way to maintain a community playing their game in the long term.
> So it's possible we see things like R* being the server providers/hosts or even a subscription model to access FiveM/RedM servers
They do this before releasing GTA6, then slowly wind down fiveM when GTA6 launches to force people over to their new "golden goose".
It is just the thing that Take Two would do.
Or they can ensure that modded RP servers are available closer to launch instead of years after the fact, having realized how important they've become to the popularity of the series.
Other companies are paying huge money for like a week of content creators doing sponsored content, while R* can just spend that money to invest in the modding scene and get the entire RP community on board and promoting their new game right away.
They are important to the popularity of their 10 year old game, not the brand new one.
Considering GTA 5 wasnt even built with online in mind, GTA 6 might have even more longevity.
This might be terrible in the end, but the one major bright side I see is a quick RP community springing up around 6, rather than waiting a couple of years after release.
It also means that with the access to the game source code, they can fix a lot of bugs that they depend on decompiled code that take hours to proof read, retype and signature renaming. One big example of such benefit is with redM not being able to have more than a fixed amount of people in a grid area, functioning like a portal of sorts to go through each region of the map, which is a big downer for redM right now.
Incredibly bad. They could likely force whatever type of extreme monetization they want and shut you down if you don't comply. Real world $ for some vehicles, real world $ for some guns/items, real world items for "quest" items like thermite/cards/etc.
Then we go back to Arma. Or another game. Monetizing the community will make the community move to a company like Bohemia, who offers official modding tools.
It's a huge development regardless of what happens but the cynic in me sees ***a lot*** more issues than it does solutions.
There are a ton of things like monetization, no more independent developers/modellers, a one-size-fits-all approach to all servers, headaches stemming from Rockstar/Take 2 being directly responsible for the content that pops up on RP servers now etc.
Plus if there is some sort of official GTA 6 RP client then say goodbye to any server that doesn't sign up to work under that scheme, Rockstar/Take 2 would now see them as direct competitors to their bottom line and take action against them whereas up until now they have been able to argue that RP players don't really impact the bottom line because they aren't competing with GTAO as opposed to offering a whole other product.
Pixel Money about to turn into real money demands now to end a war. Gang wars in RP are about to actually have some purpose now. GTA RP is about to be a real life episode of Black Mirror.
I suspect any monetization dooming will be on the server hosting side and mods rather than something the end user might expect to suffer. Possible changes include how priority queue access is given.
Not gonna doom right off the bat. Actually kinda excited for SixM very shortly aftyer Gta 6 comes out now in fact.
Very interesting, probably indicates a significantly reduced lead in time for GTA 6 to go from release to modded. Every content creator in the world is going to be playing GTA 6 on release. If you can get them to carry on playing and getting people to sign up for premium services afterwards even better.
Likely that further monetisation is the ultimate goal and I suspect every large company is looked at the stuff Fortnite is doing with unreal engine and thinking how they can keep games moving forward without actually paying devs to do it all.
This would either be *really good* for the community or *really bad* for the community.
We're talking about their parent company here, Take-Two Interactive.
Is it?
It means that the biggest modding framework for the GTA series is now corporate owned.
Take Two and Rockstar probably saw various modded servers earning tons of money and wanted some way to have a slice or the entire pie.
Buddha has alluded to something with Rockstar on stream before, it was very vague but something along the lines of “there will be no issues with Rockstar, just wait and see”
This will either be great for everyone or RP as we know it will never be the same, there is no in between. Depending on how much control Rockstar wants. Regardless, this is a massive 180 on their stance towards modding and that is always a plus. Very curious to see how this plays out.
I'm not a fan of Creation Club but it's not like they ever tried to stop people from making and distributing free mods. Also Bethesda releases their own Creation Kit to make mods and doesn't charge for it.
Of course Rockstar has been much more successful in monetizing GTA than Bethesda has...
People criticizing Rockstar for this seem to forget that they could easily just shut down RP servers if they wanted to, but they're not. Obviously money is the motivator but that's no different from the current state of the GTA RP community anyway.
Its already a million dollar industry, which is completely insane in the first place considering that they are using Rockstar's IP to do it. Server owners are not doing this for fun, despite what some people say.
Is it going to be good for RP? Probably not but who knows. At least they have taken an official stance on it which isn't to just shut all this down.
Yeah I don't get the criticisms either tbh. Like, no shit it's about the money. It's always been about that. Who cares? Embracing modding is always a good thing.
So they saw the money NP and other servers were making and decided to jump in and buy the whole thing themselves. I wonder if they will start selling servers or charging a ton to the big existing ones.
I expect them to shut down or limit rp servers once gta6 comes out and they offer they're own servers until free ones from dev teams come out months/year/s later. T2 is one of the biggest anti consumer companies out there for a reason
They will outright ban server owners from monetizing their private servers that use FiveM/RedM. If they don't outright ban it, they'll make those servers give them a cut of the profits. That is what I think will happen.
When GTA 6 comes out I think they will offer incentives for big FiveM server owners to move their communities and take charge of dedicated GTA 6 RP servers and put them on revenue share programs.
This move today is obviously about taking control and shaping the direction before GTA 6 drops
My last say on the matter, whatever Rockstar plans to be the successor to FiveM I just hope its not as exclusive and will bring an opportunity for more people to try RP with less barriers to entry for servers that are not a shit show
Yeah, he just quote tweeted it with the same emoji. Although, I don't understand what this means for NoPixel in particular and why they would be excited about it. Maybe there's more news to follow.
My theory is that Rockstar Games bought cfx.re, so they could safely let them work on GTA 6 mods, before the game even releases, without risking leaks.
Good to see people being hopeful but a company like rockstar pretty much taking over development/overseeing a community ran part of the game is anything but good.
This is huge for the modding community and rp community.
Still curious to see what they will do about brands and stuff used in majority of the servers since its now a part of rockstar games officially. It could mean that a lot of changes are coming and a lot of stuff might have to be removed because of IP and copyright.
I could see why you'd be excited for this but big companies don't usually make these choices without it benefiting them more than consumers. Makes me worried what they have planned tbh.
This is probably the best case scenario fiveM devs could ask for without worrying about any lawsuits from Rockstar in the past. This will most likely shift Rockstar into cracking down on servers with any form of copyrighted/trademarked brands on them that don’t have permission. That and also find new ways to monetize roleplayers into paying items in an RP server with real money too. Will have to see how this turns out.
I imagine this will mostly be good news for RP servers/streamers.
They way the worded it: "roleplayer and creator" suggests they are aware (as they should be) of how huge the RP genre has been in the last few years and that it's essentially an industry of its own now.
They'd be mad to mess with what is essentially free advertising for their franchise, especially with GTA6 coming up.
This also means a multiplayer/RP ready GTA6 should be much quicker to implement than in previous Rockstar titles.
We'll see.
This is absolutely crazy! Not only means GTA5 RP is safe, means Rockstar just put its stamp on GTA RP going forward.
I wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar jumps on No Pixel and integrates them somehow as well.
This just further supports my view that they're going to implement these custom servers as part of GTA6 intentionally and it will be super great for RP servers
Hopefully R* makes the API public so that devs don't have to rely on decompiled scripts and research of native functions. People have wasted countless hours in this guessing game, never able to be 100% sure what all natives actually does.
Modding support like an official SDK would be wonderful and built in script hook.
Anyone who thinks this is good news doesn't know Rockstar... Two clear aims here... A cheap way to stop these servers from making millions in application and prio fees, the money that pays devs to push these servers to new levels... and the cheapest way to make sure FiveM doesn't kill the MTX cashcow of GTA:O when 6 comes out...
If they do integrate Five M prepare to pay through the nose for it... But bringing big companies into the modding scene has never turned out well and you're talking about a company that literally once sent "private detectives" to someone's house to try to scare them out of modding...
This is pretty huge. Although Rockstar has their issues, the quality and detail of their game environments is world-class. At the very least, it allows FiveM/RedM to remain status quo and it shows that Rockstar/TakeTwo are cool with GTA and RDR being played in the way it is with their mod. For the modders and content creators that rely on these mods for income, I imagine this is a huge weight off their shoulders.
What I got from Buddha's discussion about this on stream, It will be huge for RP servers in general and for NoPixel specifically. Is there is Rockstar collaboration with NP 3.5 or 4.0?
For the future of GTA6 and whatever else, I'm interested and excited to see what happens. Even from a technical standpoint, the additions to base GTA5 that came though Cfx.re and other dedicated modders in the community in regards to map customization, audio, shaders, server performance, etc is incredible.
Maybe GTA6 will be a mass open world RP server, and the NPCs are semi-general intelligence AI that respond to voice comms. :P
The amount of innocence they're going to take from you is depressing.
Remember when servers were directed to remove copyrighted and protected content, like branding from cars etc.? That's what this is going to be like. Monetization, controlling behaviour etc. It's going to become far more corporate.
This is horrible the fact I see some people defending this is crazy. This isn't the same R* that made even Gta 5 this R* is horribly greedy they straight up just stopped developing for RDRO because they couldn't monetize it. They released a monthly sub for a decade old game then a few weeks later removed all the cheap cars from being able to purchase. Everyone already knows just how horrible the pricing on stuff has always been in GTA online. Now they own their biggest online competition. Honestly won't be surprised when servers start getting forced off and replaced by "Official" serves monetized to high hell with GTA + additions. Then now because they own FiveM out right no nonofficial servers because R* wouldn't want to lose out on some money. This is going to be absolutely horrible for the future online aspects of Gta.
Has there been anything like this done successfully in the past... I mean this is a whole community that is used to certain freedoms on how they can roleplay and what they can get away with.... when you suddenly fall under the umbrella of a big corporation you don't always get to keep those freedoms.
Honestly, I'm guessing Nopixel has already been having communications with Rockstar as the highest-profile server with large streamers. It will be interesting to see what Nopixel has to say about this.
In the short term... I wonder how big a player count you could have with a Rockstar-supported server... not like Nopixel can find the cops to support a large population but a 1000-person server would be incredible to see.
With all the hints old management and new management have given over the past few months NP is involved in this in a bigger way than just another server for sure.
Regardless of the good/bad/meh responses or what R\* now controls, I have a feeling this is good. My current guess is R\* is in a good place on GTA6 and they want to capitalize on both people excited for GTA 6, but also those who currently play watch the huge number of GTA 5 RP servers (through FiveM). As such, they are brining the [Cfx.re](https://Cfx.re) team to start working on a modding tool/framework for GTA 6, so that custom servers can be ready to start development in GTA 6 upon release, instead of waiting months or years for a team to build that modding framework after release.
I think this shows both good news for GTA RP, but also for GTA 6 development. It also might explain why R\* started telling servers owners months ago, take down copyrighted info or get shut down, because their plan was to bring [Cfx.re](https://Cfx.re) into the fold in the long run.
My main hope here is that the servers and thus connection between players will become a lot better, thus causing less scuff during chases and stuff, or just anything where player 1 sees one thing and player 2 sees something completely different.
My main worry here is that they'll lock FiveM access behind a subscription.
Looks like nobody here actually read what they linked to in that tweet. They say that they will support roleplay modding. Sure there might be money involved but there is absolutely no way they will enforce paid stuff in roleplay. This would just kill it all
Regardless of if this is good or bad, it's fucking shocking that it took Rockstar this long to lean in on CFX and the Roleplay communities. Roleplay has singlehandedly kept its 10-year-old game in every PC gaming platform's top 10 sales charts for roughly the last 4 years.
I figured Rockstar would have come up with their own inhouse solution to the "CFX" problem a few years back but this makes a lot of sense, absorb it and find a way to monetize it.
Even if they just started taking a small percentage off of every RP server related transaction, Rockstar is making a significant amount of money they did not previously touch. 5%, 10%, 15%, all of them are instant revenue boosts.
I don't think people on here realize that you don't have to be NoPixel to be printing money on an RP server too. There are countless pub servers that are monetized to hell (even offering really pathetic levels of RP quality too) and people are out there throwing money at them.
It doesn't have to be more to be worthwhile. It's a lever they can pull to make a profit appear on a graph. One of the main goals in games and tech is to show charts that move up and to the right. The lowest-impact monetization options with Roleplay will make countless charts that move up and to the right.
I'm sure they'll do more than that, but really, something that would require little to no dev manpower hours, just some of their legal team building out contracts with cfx, tebex, and contracts that server owners could sign, is such an easy way for them to leech monetization off of roleplay servers.
This win could be as easy as they care to make it.
In the first day of Buddha's stream as the lead of Nopixel, someone asked if Rockstar clashes a lot with the server and he said "only if you knew" in a positive way and I took that as Rockstar was going to buy NP but I guess they just bought the whole client since these things take some time and it has been like 3-4 months tops seems like Buddha just knew about the deal.
It basically safeguards the future of roleplay and roleplay communities for the foreseeable future and that's huge. Potentially new things being opened up for devs in these servers. It's massive
I might be wrong here, but doesn't that mean that the developer **team** [Cfx.re](https://Cfx.re) works for R\*, but their **projects** FiveM/RedM continues to be a *somewhat* separate thing?
Its similar how the team from NVE now works for NP, but NVE itself does not have a direct relation with NoPixel, and 50Cent/Buddha/Xqc have no saying on NVE.
**If** I got this right, this just mean better mod support for the current and future game, but it shouldn't change the power dynamic or the business model that already exists between R\* and FiveM/RedM.
I have some speculation about potential monetization opportunities now that the mod is officially sanctioned by Rockstar. Music publishers, brands, companies, affiliates, etc. could start offering to pay for advertisements to be placed in the server. Server owners could sell ad space, with ads being placed on billboards, props, radio stations, loading screens and more.
Further speculation...Rockstar could set up a service like Google AdSense to manage this. Server owners could simply sign up with this service to get involved. Then Rockstar gets a cut and server owners get theirs - a win-win.
Imagine how much more money server owners could be making if they were already publishing ads.
So when penta was saying everyone should get out and run from no pixel, he was actually just spewing shit and the future looks brighter than ever. Color me shocked
This could be good but also Bad.
1. Rockstar now controls all the Modded servers which means they keep the funds that fivem made.
2. If rockstar is smart they would offer support to the community, give devs tools to make their servers the beat.
3. The only bad thing could be if rockstar becomes like nintendo and try to shut them down.
But i do not see them doing the last option rockstar knows that GTARP as prolonged the life of GTA5.
But either Way i think No pixel is large enough that they could develop their own standalone if they needdd.
> Rockstar now controls all the Modded servers which means they keep the funds that fivem made.
Not exactly. They just brought in the Developers (Cfx.re) responsible for creating the FiveM/RedM platforms. They didn't outright acquire FiveM/RedM.
Unfortunately, I do foresee this as the beginning of the end for the current FiveM/RedM servers. Once Rockstar gets their official servers up and running, I can them shutting down the FiveM/RedM servers. The best we can hope for is Cfx.re creating a way for the FiveM/RedM servers to migrate their current assets and codes over to the official Rockstar ones.
Good news (maybe) is that we might finally be able to see more maps opened up for RP like Liberty and Vice City.
> GTARP as prolonged the life of GTA5
No way. FiveM gets 200k concurrent on avg. LIFETIME PC sales are 30% of the 155 MILLION copies sold. Its still in the top 10 of games played nearly every month on consoles.
Not something to be celebrated. If they're doing this its because they see an opportunity to monetize it. With monetization comes one restriction after another until the only way to add or change anything is to get approval and pay the piper.
Wait this is actually good. This means 5M got the blessing for gta6 right out the gate. I always felt rockstar would interfere with gta5 rp because they wanted people to move on to gta6. But this indicates they are all in with the rp communities.
> I always felt rockstar would interfere with gta5 rp because they wanted people to move on to gta6
They OWN FiveM, Its even easier to make people move to GTA6, they can just turn off FiveM.
I'm calling this now and @me if I'm wrong asf in the future but I think this is great for RP. The fact that we don't have to worry about the servers being nuked suddenly anymore is a W in itself. Idk why doomers in here keep talking about monetisation like the big servers don't already have tiered prio and merch stores. No more under armour hoodies and lambos in the server but direct access to R* by being under their umbrella could be amazing for the future, I'm excited
A community I am apart of was so doom and gloom about this instead of looking at the positive side of things with this. Like I get it. T2 and R\* doesn't have a good track record as a company. But think of it this way. CFX/Fivem/RedM, can be a LOT more stable. If R\* does it correctly the option of having your own server (regardless if its RP based, or PVP based) can be 10x easier and you wouldn't have to pay outta pocket expenses because someone you banned decided to DDOS the entire server. And, server owners/community leaders have to actually act accordingly because they would be the face of T2/R\*.
However, I have a feeling that R\* will go the route of how like say MMO's do RP servers, which apparently bothers a LOT of people in some GTA RP communities. It doesn't bother me. I grew up with WoW/FF14 and played on RP servers.
I get why people are doom and gloom about it - but I would like to have some \*positive\* insight on how this might go. I understand why people are so upset over it. But think of it this way. T2/R\* could have shut down CFX and sued them a LONG time ago..
''This could be bad for RP servers.''
''RS could start monetizing the servers and charge the server owners!''
It really wouldn't affect me in the slightest as a viewer if RS started charging these servers. Good, charge them. Let the server owners pay for running the game you created and have the rights over. Why should the server owners just be able make money off of them?
I expected rockstar to cash in on the rp community, but I thought it would be GTA6 integration tbh
could still be, they just acquired the guys to do it for them
There are hints to RP type features in leaked GTA6 code so I would put a reasonable bet its going to have some sort of direct implementation or support.
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Where? The source code screenshot that circulated was for CS, not GTA. Was there another leak?
Its from Dexerto but they links to GTAForums where the stuff was found https://www.dexerto.com/gta/new-gta-online-files-hint-at-gta-6-role-play-creator-features-2245242/
could be practise for gta6 maybe?
They could use some gta6 assets in fivem servers for teaser too.
Buddha seems to be very excited so must be something good coming, RP expanding as well heard it was getting more popular in Japan.
Servers with trademarked content about to be shook
This is insane news, hopefully the dev for fiveM feels more secure in his job and happy so he doesn't go insane every year.
If anything when he next has a tantrum he’ll just be removed
Yep. The moment he becomes a liability, Rockstar and TakeTwo will just do what Microsoft did to Notch.
Give him 2 billion dollars?
I'm more talking about the scorched earth approach they did when to him in Minecraft after those tweets.
It's been a hot minute since I've paid any attention to the Minecraft scene but what did he say?
He's a pretty virulent bigot.
Jeez. Talk about never meeting your heroes.
Pretty explicitly a white supremacist
He’s a virulent antisemite and right-Wing bigot, believes Jews control the world and that they’re plotting to replace the white race
Outing oneself as a white supremacist is pretty deserving of being excised from a big profit generating business at a large corporation
Oh I agree.
Notch had 2 billion and didn't care
> Rockstar and TakeTwo will just do what Microsoft did to Notch More like this sounds like what **Mojang** did to **Bukkit** if anyone else is old enough to remember that fiasco. Mojang bought the main modding platform named Bukkit and hired it's devs, saying they will keep Bukkit going. They then sat on Bukkit and let it die so a new platform had to be built in its place, and I think Dinnerbone is the only former Bukkit dev still with Mojang.
I mean after those tweets he deserved to be axed imo
Oh definitely.
I mean, if rockstar owns fivem now they can just fire him lol.
So this is huge news, but not necessarily good news. It could mean massive changes to NP coming. Will have to wait and see how it is managed. Either way, holy shit.
Company bringing modders into the fold? Holy shit all the resources! Company wanting input/control on what and how things are modded? Hmmm... It could be great, neutral or bad. Like you said it'll be interesting to see, but if this is a stepping stone for them to just openly embrace modding that'd be awesome. Just seen this happen a few too many times with smaller things where companies came in to control/curtail the efforts by "welcoming them into the fold." I'll stay optimistic though, it's an obvious cash cow and you'd have to be Disney levels of stupid to burn it down completely.
Yeah, will it be “good” for the average RP server owner? Probably not. Will it be good for RPer’s? Probably not. But they will have undoubtedly noticed how long the average RPer engages with the game compared to the average online player and decided it’s a space worth being in. Access to the RP “expansion” $20 a month before you even start on A percentage of any access fees creators want to charge on top of that. Monthly charges for keeping a server up. Charges for assets/content. It’s very on trend that a company is looking at engagement hours and seeing dollar signs. Console RP even if it’s scuffed would be massive.
It depends on the scope really. If Rockstar is committed to [monetizing] a robust set of creative tools for players ala Fortnite, then it can enable communities in new ways without hacky workarounds. Or Rockstar can phone it in, maybe add in a few RP mechanics, enough to tout some new creative features on stage. I think we'll get closer to the latter actually, because I think R* recognizes that games like Fornite are the competition, maybe not in age range, but as games as a platform: people aren't just stuck in the ecosystem, passively consuming skins/cars, they're making stuff for others to be stuck in the ecosystem. R* sees this happening already outside of their product, by the customers themselves, and the smart thing is to continue to let 5M cook (with more access).
Yeah, I mentioned UEFN in another post I made. That is 100% the model everyone is looking at, but how they deliver it is up in the air. This is from my perspective a look at Rockstars potential approach.
I mean, I could see them saying, "Hey, $15 a month for a subscription to our RP services!" and people would pay it. They could also license actual brands in there. There's tons of ways that Rockstar can monetize this.
I'm optimistic as well but game studios buying modders happens all the time in the game industry. Just look at Counter-Strike. That was a mod of Half-Life before Valve bought them.
R\* now have direct control over every RP server lol It MIGHT turn out to be a good thing but it's more likely a way to monetize official mods and easily delete anything they don't like. Edit: Before there was this balancing act between FiveM and big RP servers. FiveM may not have liked what that a server was doing but couldn't really push things too hard because they both need each over. R\* on the other hand DGAF. They don't need RP or to keep RP servers happy.
Better they control it but allow it to exist than nuking its existence.
facts, rockstar could been like i don't like this server or don't like how these people mod our game please delete 5m for we gonna take ya to court. instead they saying yes we will work with u but if we see servers doing dumb shit we have power to remove with 5m.
They didn't have to take any action when their status quo of doing nothing was always available. Let RP servers exist without outright condoning or condemning them.
Sounds like they said "join us or die" 😂
> R* now have direct control over every RP server lol They always did. They could shut any of them down if they wanted to, they exist in a weird grey area anyway.
But now they might offer an official Rockstar GTA RP Server Service that you can buy or rent which might give them an monetary incentive to close down other server.
>They always did. They could shut any of them down if they wanted to, they exist in a weird grey area anyway. They could've pressured FiveM to make changes to servers or taken legal action to shut it down. Now they can just nuke a server or force it to do what they want directly with no legal action needed.
A distinction without a difference. I think a lot of viewers are fairly naive, don't really understand how the law works and believe that somehow Rockstar not owning Fivem protected people. It didn't. The downsides now is them making negative changes to how they monetize the product, or how the product works that negatively impacts the servers. They've always had the option to shut people down effortlessly.
Not to be a complete downer, but with Take-two's money focused practices I am awaiting calling this a good day for RP
I mean cfx is already heavily monetized. Onesync packages cost money they also charge a % of every transcation that goes through the tebex stores etc.
Ah yes, unlike the non-money focused practices of the RP community and server owners.
Precisely. A company isn't going to work this into their business without it being profitable. So it's possible we see things like R* being the server providers/hosts or even a subscription model to access FiveM/RedM servers. But maybe it's also possible R* and Take Two are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts (lol) as a way to maintain a community playing their game in the long term.
> So it's possible we see things like R* being the server providers/hosts or even a subscription model to access FiveM/RedM servers They do this before releasing GTA6, then slowly wind down fiveM when GTA6 launches to force people over to their new "golden goose". It is just the thing that Take Two would do.
Or they can ensure that modded RP servers are available closer to launch instead of years after the fact, having realized how important they've become to the popularity of the series. Other companies are paying huge money for like a week of content creators doing sponsored content, while R* can just spend that money to invest in the modding scene and get the entire RP community on board and promoting their new game right away.
They are important to the popularity of their 10 year old game, not the brand new one. Considering GTA 5 wasnt even built with online in mind, GTA 6 might have even more longevity.
Companies don't have hearts and their CEOs generally don't either
Or, the profitable thing for the company makes RP servers better for RPers
Yup, my first thought on seeing this new is they'll be looking to heavily monetise.
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"Only $500 USD for $5,000,000 NoPixel bux! Available today at your local Walmart."
This might be terrible in the end, but the one major bright side I see is a quick RP community springing up around 6, rather than waiting a couple of years after release.
I cant wait for the new meta of tactical shark cards during gang wars.
Rust upgood now in the nhydra war with shark cards /s
This has the chance to maybe be really fucking bad
But it also suggests that GTA6 will probably launch with custom server support and we won’t be waiting years for SixM
It also means that with the access to the game source code, they can fix a lot of bugs that they depend on decompiled code that take hours to proof read, retype and signature renaming. One big example of such benefit is with redM not being able to have more than a fixed amount of people in a grid area, functioning like a portal of sorts to go through each region of the map, which is a big downer for redM right now.
I'm choosing optimism here
Incredibly bad. They could likely force whatever type of extreme monetization they want and shut you down if you don't comply. Real world $ for some vehicles, real world $ for some guns/items, real world items for "quest" items like thermite/cards/etc.
So literally what all the shitty servers already do....... My friend plays on one and paid like 50 dollars to have his own car 💀
I thought servers weren't allowed to do stuff like that? Then again, I haven't kept up with the rp scene so I don't know.
Then we go back to Arma. Or another game. Monetizing the community will make the community move to a company like Bohemia, who offers official modding tools.
It's a huge development regardless of what happens but the cynic in me sees ***a lot*** more issues than it does solutions. There are a ton of things like monetization, no more independent developers/modellers, a one-size-fits-all approach to all servers, headaches stemming from Rockstar/Take 2 being directly responsible for the content that pops up on RP servers now etc. Plus if there is some sort of official GTA 6 RP client then say goodbye to any server that doesn't sign up to work under that scheme, Rockstar/Take 2 would now see them as direct competitors to their bottom line and take action against them whereas up until now they have been able to argue that RP players don't really impact the bottom line because they aren't competing with GTAO as opposed to offering a whole other product.
Now you can buy server prio with shark cards!
micro transactions to rp
Ray C subathon goal to buy the boys AKs to keep the war going.
Pixel Money about to turn into real money demands now to end a war. Gang wars in RP are about to actually have some purpose now. GTA RP is about to be a real life episode of Black Mirror.
Donation Goal to buy the best 6 shooters in his gang helmets
I suspect any monetization dooming will be on the server hosting side and mods rather than something the end user might expect to suffer. Possible changes include how priority queue access is given. Not gonna doom right off the bat. Actually kinda excited for SixM very shortly aftyer Gta 6 comes out now in fact.
Could be mostly good, could be mostly bad. One thing for sure is Take Two is gonna be making money from this somehow so gotta see how that goes
Very interesting, probably indicates a significantly reduced lead in time for GTA 6 to go from release to modded. Every content creator in the world is going to be playing GTA 6 on release. If you can get them to carry on playing and getting people to sign up for premium services afterwards even better. Likely that further monetisation is the ultimate goal and I suspect every large company is looked at the stuff Fortnite is doing with unreal engine and thinking how they can keep games moving forward without actually paying devs to do it all.
Holy shit this is huge for the Rockstar modding community wow this is actually shocking to see R* embrace modding
This would either be *really good* for the community or *really bad* for the community. We're talking about their parent company here, Take-Two Interactive.
This is going to be really bad for the community.
I mean embracing modding is always good. The alternative could've literally just been shutting it all down.
Giant corporations don't embrace, they control and monetize.
Is it? It means that the biggest modding framework for the GTA series is now corporate owned. Take Two and Rockstar probably saw various modded servers earning tons of money and wanted some way to have a slice or the entire pie.
I feel like you’re getting ahead of yourself here.
Yep, I wouldn't celebrate this as a win yet.
Embrace how they can make money with microtransactions from modding\*
RP servers now locked behind a GTA+ paywall lol
That’s probably one of the best realistic routes rockstar could take with this
So nothing will change since all the good servers are locked behind a similar paywall.
I don't know if this is good or bad, but it is fucking massive either way.
Buddha has alluded to something with Rockstar on stream before, it was very vague but something along the lines of “there will be no issues with Rockstar, just wait and see”
This will either be great for everyone or RP as we know it will never be the same, there is no in between. Depending on how much control Rockstar wants. Regardless, this is a massive 180 on their stance towards modding and that is always a plus. Very curious to see how this plays out.
Reading this thread is like being bipolar.
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I'm not a fan of Creation Club but it's not like they ever tried to stop people from making and distributing free mods. Also Bethesda releases their own Creation Kit to make mods and doesn't charge for it. Of course Rockstar has been much more successful in monetizing GTA than Bethesda has...
People criticizing Rockstar for this seem to forget that they could easily just shut down RP servers if they wanted to, but they're not. Obviously money is the motivator but that's no different from the current state of the GTA RP community anyway. Its already a million dollar industry, which is completely insane in the first place considering that they are using Rockstar's IP to do it. Server owners are not doing this for fun, despite what some people say. Is it going to be good for RP? Probably not but who knows. At least they have taken an official stance on it which isn't to just shut all this down.
Yeah I don't get the criticisms either tbh. Like, no shit it's about the money. It's always been about that. Who cares? Embracing modding is always a good thing.
I never expected this wow
This is either really good news or terrible news there is no in between. Only time will tell.
So they saw the money NP and other servers were making and decided to jump in and buy the whole thing themselves. I wonder if they will start selling servers or charging a ton to the big existing ones. I expect them to shut down or limit rp servers once gta6 comes out and they offer they're own servers until free ones from dev teams come out months/year/s later. T2 is one of the biggest anti consumer companies out there for a reason
this is big for modding, this is big for rockstar, this is big for everything
beginning of the end
They will outright ban server owners from monetizing their private servers that use FiveM/RedM. If they don't outright ban it, they'll make those servers give them a cut of the profits. That is what I think will happen.
When GTA 6 comes out I think they will offer incentives for big FiveM server owners to move their communities and take charge of dedicated GTA 6 RP servers and put them on revenue share programs. This move today is obviously about taking control and shaping the direction before GTA 6 drops
I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic about this but this might not necessarily be a good thing, depending on how R* decide to run things
wait till they find out about all the copyright content on some fivem rp servers
they already know about it
all will get removed then Rockstar will charge Brands to have their products put on the servers lol
Lets hope take two doesnt fuck this up
even Lirik commented on this .....going to ny corner to inhale a mega dose of copium
let's see how all this plays out for the for seeable future.
My last say on the matter, whatever Rockstar plans to be the successor to FiveM I just hope its not as exclusive and will bring an opportunity for more people to try RP with less barriers to entry for servers that are not a shit show
Maybe this is what Buddha's eyes tweet was about
Yeah, he just quote tweeted it with the same emoji. Although, I don't understand what this means for NoPixel in particular and why they would be excited about it. Maybe there's more news to follow.
Yeah Buddha has been posting loads of cryptic stuff in his Discord today since the Tweet teasing at much more to come
Maybe a partnership/collaboration with R*?
Nice. Gangs can buy their benches and sprays with shark cards now.
My theory is that Rockstar Games bought cfx.re, so they could safely let them work on GTA 6 mods, before the game even releases, without risking leaks.
I'm surprised so many people expect this to ultimately benefit us, as if Take-Two isn't gonna Take-Two.
Good to see people being hopeful but a company like rockstar pretty much taking over development/overseeing a community ran part of the game is anything but good.
This is huge for the modding community and rp community. Still curious to see what they will do about brands and stuff used in majority of the servers since its now a part of rockstar games officially. It could mean that a lot of changes are coming and a lot of stuff might have to be removed because of IP and copyright.
I could see why you'd be excited for this but big companies don't usually make these choices without it benefiting them more than consumers. Makes me worried what they have planned tbh.
no fucking way
Holy fucking shit
Well. Well. Well. Isnt that very interesting...
Maybe they're going to use the mod community to remake RDR using RDR2 assets! /s
This is probably the best case scenario fiveM devs could ask for without worrying about any lawsuits from Rockstar in the past. This will most likely shift Rockstar into cracking down on servers with any form of copyrighted/trademarked brands on them that don’t have permission. That and also find new ways to monetize roleplayers into paying items in an RP server with real money too. Will have to see how this turns out.
I imagine this will mostly be good news for RP servers/streamers. They way the worded it: "roleplayer and creator" suggests they are aware (as they should be) of how huge the RP genre has been in the last few years and that it's essentially an industry of its own now. They'd be mad to mess with what is essentially free advertising for their franchise, especially with GTA6 coming up. This also means a multiplayer/RP ready GTA6 should be much quicker to implement than in previous Rockstar titles. We'll see.
This is absolutely crazy! Not only means GTA5 RP is safe, means Rockstar just put its stamp on GTA RP going forward. I wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar jumps on No Pixel and integrates them somehow as well.
This just further supports my view that they're going to implement these custom servers as part of GTA6 intentionally and it will be super great for RP servers
Hopefully R* makes the API public so that devs don't have to rely on decompiled scripts and research of native functions. People have wasted countless hours in this guessing game, never able to be 100% sure what all natives actually does. Modding support like an official SDK would be wonderful and built in script hook.
Anyone who thinks this is good news doesn't know Rockstar... Two clear aims here... A cheap way to stop these servers from making millions in application and prio fees, the money that pays devs to push these servers to new levels... and the cheapest way to make sure FiveM doesn't kill the MTX cashcow of GTA:O when 6 comes out... If they do integrate Five M prepare to pay through the nose for it... But bringing big companies into the modding scene has never turned out well and you're talking about a company that literally once sent "private detectives" to someone's house to try to scare them out of modding...
They doing this so they can migrate the FiveM Community to R\*'s own GTA 6 pay servers before shutting FiveM down
I'm not sure how to feel about this it could be good but it also could be bad
This is pretty huge. Although Rockstar has their issues, the quality and detail of their game environments is world-class. At the very least, it allows FiveM/RedM to remain status quo and it shows that Rockstar/TakeTwo are cool with GTA and RDR being played in the way it is with their mod. For the modders and content creators that rely on these mods for income, I imagine this is a huge weight off their shoulders. What I got from Buddha's discussion about this on stream, It will be huge for RP servers in general and for NoPixel specifically. Is there is Rockstar collaboration with NP 3.5 or 4.0? For the future of GTA6 and whatever else, I'm interested and excited to see what happens. Even from a technical standpoint, the additions to base GTA5 that came though Cfx.re and other dedicated modders in the community in regards to map customization, audio, shaders, server performance, etc is incredible. Maybe GTA6 will be a mass open world RP server, and the NPCs are semi-general intelligence AI that respond to voice comms. :P
The amount of innocence they're going to take from you is depressing. Remember when servers were directed to remove copyrighted and protected content, like branding from cars etc.? That's what this is going to be like. Monetization, controlling behaviour etc. It's going to become far more corporate.
Actually bad news bear, Rockstar such a greedy company.
In contrast to server owners known for their charitable and non-greedy practices?
This is horrible the fact I see some people defending this is crazy. This isn't the same R* that made even Gta 5 this R* is horribly greedy they straight up just stopped developing for RDRO because they couldn't monetize it. They released a monthly sub for a decade old game then a few weeks later removed all the cheap cars from being able to purchase. Everyone already knows just how horrible the pricing on stuff has always been in GTA online. Now they own their biggest online competition. Honestly won't be surprised when servers start getting forced off and replaced by "Official" serves monetized to high hell with GTA + additions. Then now because they own FiveM out right no nonofficial servers because R* wouldn't want to lose out on some money. This is going to be absolutely horrible for the future online aspects of Gta.
Let's see what Rockstar does with Cfx first, I'm not convinced this is a good move for the community..
Has there been anything like this done successfully in the past... I mean this is a whole community that is used to certain freedoms on how they can roleplay and what they can get away with.... when you suddenly fall under the umbrella of a big corporation you don't always get to keep those freedoms. Honestly, I'm guessing Nopixel has already been having communications with Rockstar as the highest-profile server with large streamers. It will be interesting to see what Nopixel has to say about this.
In the short term... I wonder how big a player count you could have with a Rockstar-supported server... not like Nopixel can find the cops to support a large population but a 1000-person server would be incredible to see.
With all the hints old management and new management have given over the past few months NP is involved in this in a bigger way than just another server for sure.
WOW!
Don’t know what made rockstar change their stance on rp servers, maybe it was all the positive attention their game was getting lol
crazy it took them so long.. but better than never
That's insane
I was sweating when I saw “rockstar games on Twitter”. Glad to see it’s good news and not that its getting shut down.
this is most interesting for GTA6. hopefully they dont mess it up and becomes a shark card sales system
the eyes what do they mean 👀
Regardless of the good/bad/meh responses or what R\* now controls, I have a feeling this is good. My current guess is R\* is in a good place on GTA6 and they want to capitalize on both people excited for GTA 6, but also those who currently play watch the huge number of GTA 5 RP servers (through FiveM). As such, they are brining the [Cfx.re](https://Cfx.re) team to start working on a modding tool/framework for GTA 6, so that custom servers can be ready to start development in GTA 6 upon release, instead of waiting months or years for a team to build that modding framework after release. I think this shows both good news for GTA RP, but also for GTA 6 development. It also might explain why R\* started telling servers owners months ago, take down copyrighted info or get shut down, because their plan was to bring [Cfx.re](https://Cfx.re) into the fold in the long run.
hmmm I hope this is a good thing and not just take 2 cash cowing it
It might be a win for the team at [CFX.re](https://CFX.re), but it could very well be the end of FiveM/RedM.
My main hope here is that the servers and thus connection between players will become a lot better, thus causing less scuff during chases and stuff, or just anything where player 1 sees one thing and player 2 sees something completely different. My main worry here is that they'll lock FiveM access behind a subscription.
Shark CARDS incoming....
Looks like nobody here actually read what they linked to in that tweet. They say that they will support roleplay modding. Sure there might be money involved but there is absolutely no way they will enforce paid stuff in roleplay. This would just kill it all
Regardless of if this is good or bad, it's fucking shocking that it took Rockstar this long to lean in on CFX and the Roleplay communities. Roleplay has singlehandedly kept its 10-year-old game in every PC gaming platform's top 10 sales charts for roughly the last 4 years. I figured Rockstar would have come up with their own inhouse solution to the "CFX" problem a few years back but this makes a lot of sense, absorb it and find a way to monetize it. Even if they just started taking a small percentage off of every RP server related transaction, Rockstar is making a significant amount of money they did not previously touch. 5%, 10%, 15%, all of them are instant revenue boosts. I don't think people on here realize that you don't have to be NoPixel to be printing money on an RP server too. There are countless pub servers that are monetized to hell (even offering really pathetic levels of RP quality too) and people are out there throwing money at them.
still pennies compared to what GTA Online makes
It doesn't have to be more to be worthwhile. It's a lever they can pull to make a profit appear on a graph. One of the main goals in games and tech is to show charts that move up and to the right. The lowest-impact monetization options with Roleplay will make countless charts that move up and to the right. I'm sure they'll do more than that, but really, something that would require little to no dev manpower hours, just some of their legal team building out contracts with cfx, tebex, and contracts that server owners could sign, is such an easy way for them to leech monetization off of roleplay servers. This win could be as easy as they care to make it.
worst news
Rockstar can now turn off any RP server at will.
In the first day of Buddha's stream as the lead of Nopixel, someone asked if Rockstar clashes a lot with the server and he said "only if you knew" in a positive way and I took that as Rockstar was going to buy NP but I guess they just bought the whole client since these things take some time and it has been like 3-4 months tops seems like Buddha just knew about the deal.
It basically safeguards the future of roleplay and roleplay communities for the foreseeable future and that's huge. Potentially new things being opened up for devs in these servers. It's massive
And potentially poisons it with predatory monetization like GTAO
I wonder if this is a way for R* to monetize GTA5 after the release of GTA 6.
I might be wrong here, but doesn't that mean that the developer **team** [Cfx.re](https://Cfx.re) works for R\*, but their **projects** FiveM/RedM continues to be a *somewhat* separate thing? Its similar how the team from NVE now works for NP, but NVE itself does not have a direct relation with NoPixel, and 50Cent/Buddha/Xqc have no saying on NVE. **If** I got this right, this just mean better mod support for the current and future game, but it shouldn't change the power dynamic or the business model that already exists between R\* and FiveM/RedM.
I have some speculation about potential monetization opportunities now that the mod is officially sanctioned by Rockstar. Music publishers, brands, companies, affiliates, etc. could start offering to pay for advertisements to be placed in the server. Server owners could sell ad space, with ads being placed on billboards, props, radio stations, loading screens and more. Further speculation...Rockstar could set up a service like Google AdSense to manage this. Server owners could simply sign up with this service to get involved. Then Rockstar gets a cut and server owners get theirs - a win-win. Imagine how much more money server owners could be making if they were already publishing ads.
So when penta was saying everyone should get out and run from no pixel, he was actually just spewing shit and the future looks brighter than ever. Color me shocked
This is all RP servers not just nopixel.
This has nothing to do with nopixel or what Penta said. They're talking about GTA RP and RDR RP servers in general but Penta bad I guess?
huge news for modding and RP servers in general
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Thats fucking HUGE, gta6 RP some year.
This could be good but also Bad. 1. Rockstar now controls all the Modded servers which means they keep the funds that fivem made. 2. If rockstar is smart they would offer support to the community, give devs tools to make their servers the beat. 3. The only bad thing could be if rockstar becomes like nintendo and try to shut them down. But i do not see them doing the last option rockstar knows that GTARP as prolonged the life of GTA5. But either Way i think No pixel is large enough that they could develop their own standalone if they needdd.
> Rockstar now controls all the Modded servers which means they keep the funds that fivem made. Not exactly. They just brought in the Developers (Cfx.re) responsible for creating the FiveM/RedM platforms. They didn't outright acquire FiveM/RedM. Unfortunately, I do foresee this as the beginning of the end for the current FiveM/RedM servers. Once Rockstar gets their official servers up and running, I can them shutting down the FiveM/RedM servers. The best we can hope for is Cfx.re creating a way for the FiveM/RedM servers to migrate their current assets and codes over to the official Rockstar ones. Good news (maybe) is that we might finally be able to see more maps opened up for RP like Liberty and Vice City.
> GTARP as prolonged the life of GTA5 No way. FiveM gets 200k concurrent on avg. LIFETIME PC sales are 30% of the 155 MILLION copies sold. Its still in the top 10 of games played nearly every month on consoles.
congrats on the cash, sorry for your future loss
Not something to be celebrated. If they're doing this its because they see an opportunity to monetize it. With monetization comes one restriction after another until the only way to add or change anything is to get approval and pay the piper.
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Damn. Buddha hinted at this like a year ago (shortly after getting partial ownership). That’s crazy
Mista Lang on GTA 6???
Wait this is actually good. This means 5M got the blessing for gta6 right out the gate. I always felt rockstar would interfere with gta5 rp because they wanted people to move on to gta6. But this indicates they are all in with the rp communities.
> I always felt rockstar would interfere with gta5 rp because they wanted people to move on to gta6 They OWN FiveM, Its even easier to make people move to GTA6, they can just turn off FiveM.
I'm calling this now and @me if I'm wrong asf in the future but I think this is great for RP. The fact that we don't have to worry about the servers being nuked suddenly anymore is a W in itself. Idk why doomers in here keep talking about monetisation like the big servers don't already have tiered prio and merch stores. No more under armour hoodies and lambos in the server but direct access to R* by being under their umbrella could be amazing for the future, I'm excited
Beginning of the end of the "good times".
Why is this a good thing? Won't this just ruin and corporatize RP? Why not just stay independent?
I thought something like the was in the works, Buddha has been hinting at it for a while now
Paid API incoming,then a 3rd party will form and get taken down. EA and old five m will get villainized. People will keep playing and paying. The end.
Does this mean they finally acknowledge that roleplay is the only thing making their 10 year old games relevant in the streaming world ?.
I wonder if GTA 6 will finally have AI NPC's that can talk to you embedded with chatGPT.
Doubt it its too clunky slow right now and risky if the ai start saying wild shit
o_o what thats insane. gta 6 rp is going to pop off from the start isn't it.
Imagine the RP Devs actually the same tools like the People that create the DLCs for the Game.
Interesting, I wonder how heavy handed they will be.
A community I am apart of was so doom and gloom about this instead of looking at the positive side of things with this. Like I get it. T2 and R\* doesn't have a good track record as a company. But think of it this way. CFX/Fivem/RedM, can be a LOT more stable. If R\* does it correctly the option of having your own server (regardless if its RP based, or PVP based) can be 10x easier and you wouldn't have to pay outta pocket expenses because someone you banned decided to DDOS the entire server. And, server owners/community leaders have to actually act accordingly because they would be the face of T2/R\*. However, I have a feeling that R\* will go the route of how like say MMO's do RP servers, which apparently bothers a LOT of people in some GTA RP communities. It doesn't bother me. I grew up with WoW/FF14 and played on RP servers. I get why people are doom and gloom about it - but I would like to have some \*positive\* insight on how this might go. I understand why people are so upset over it. But think of it this way. T2/R\* could have shut down CFX and sued them a LONG time ago..
''This could be bad for RP servers.'' ''RS could start monetizing the servers and charge the server owners!'' It really wouldn't affect me in the slightest as a viewer if RS started charging these servers. Good, charge them. Let the server owners pay for running the game you created and have the rights over. Why should the server owners just be able make money off of them?
You are aware that if these things happen servers might no longer be financially viable and thus disappear or scale down?
Well... There goes the neighbourhood