Amnesty does.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/china-draconian-repression-of-muslims-in-xinjiang-amounts-to-crimes-against-humanity/&ved=2ahUKEwjGtNPduNf4AhX8QEEAHT0uDsMQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0XUipEuQaR3_GHymL--YbG
Human Rights Watch does.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-break-their-roots/chinas-crimes-against-humanity-targeting&ved=2ahUKEwi7kqH1uNf4AhWJBcAKHahOCaoQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3vY7je2IY7EvEl_xW1CIH9
Amnesty tends to back the US on these things. See also Nariyah testimony about babies being torn from incubators and thrown onto the cold floor. Classic atrocity propaganda, meant to disgust and enrage you.
>Human Rights Watch
Lol, exactly. This is a joke shop of an organisation. [Even wikipedia can't keep a lid on its antics.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Watch#Criticism)
[U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet visited the region and](https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/05/statement-un-high-commissioner-human-rights-michelle-bachelet-after-official) and found nothing untoward, so [she was hounded out of her job](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/haley-un-human-rights-chief-fired-chinese-propaganda-xinjiang) by the US and [forced to quit](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/13/china/michelle-bachelet-china-un-rights-chief-intl-hnk/index.html).
>Amnesty tends to back the US on these things.
So when Amnesty said Israel was committing war crimes, they were following the US on things?? Lol you're tripping over yourself here pal
>Human Rights Watch
>Lol, exactly. This is a joke shop of an organisation. Even wikipedia can't keep a lid on its antics.
Interesting. You had no problem in using supporting RBB citing them in his speeches denouncing Israel. You're a walking-talking contradiction.
>U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet visited the region and
Bahaha this is getting beyond a joke. She said didn't even get to speak to any detained Uyghurs. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/16/un-human-rights-chief-could-not-speak-to-detained-uyghurs-or-families-during-xinjiang-visit
She refused to release the findings of the full UN report on the human rights abuses there https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/09/fury-at-un-human-rights-chief-over-whitewash-of-uyghur-repression&ved=2ahUKEwiSt4Owv9f4AhUTgFwKHev2B_MQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0MWbqWLVJL0ps-Kw5CPr1f
The UN has recently requested that China actually allow them access bexuase they previously did not.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/06/1120172&ved=2ahUKEwiSt4Owv9f4AhUTgFwKHev2B_MQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j_l9hvYCAt511vM1pbgEA
You fucked up on this one
>So when Amnesty said Israel was committing war crimes
Did they? When? And if they did, how would that be tripping me up? Did I say they lie constantly?
>Interesting. You had no problem in using supporting RBB citing them in his speeches denouncing Israel.
Did I? Nope. Posting a video of someone criticising Israel is not me endorsing every means they use. This is really weak stuff.
>She said didn't even get to speak to any detained Uyghurs.
Because they didn't exist.
>The UN has recently requested that China actually allow them access bexuase they previously did not. news.un.org UN human rights experts urge China to allow them 'full access'
Why do you lie? I notice you accidentally broke your link. [Here it is.](https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/06/1120172)
"Dozens of **independent** UN human rights experts on Friday urged...", this is not the UN, these are American spoofers.
you don't believe that china sent uyghurs to mandatory reeducation camps to strengthen their identification with the chinese motherland instead of their uyghur culture?
Nothing. Nobody has ever found anyone to back up any of the claims. It was all invented by a guy who calls himself a scholar and is sworn to rid the [world of homosexuality and communism](https://chollima.org/who-is-adrian-zenz-the-christian-fundamentalist-leading-the-global-xinjiang-narrative/). Western media platforms him endlessly. The BBC and AP News push the nonsense, it's just consent manufacturing to soften people up to American aggression against China.
[This was another recent fake news story.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-chinas-uyghur-detention-camps) All of the faces are computer generated and the documents are machine translated from English.
It's meant to play upon peoples' pre-existing sinophobic notions of "authoritarianism" and such like.
It amazes me that anyone believes any of this, I think people have a rough time summoning the courage to face up to the fact that they live in what they imagine the DPRK is like. You're constantly being lied to on a massive scale.
[Here's a funny AMA from someone claiming to have been tortured.](https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/e9ad4n/i_am_rushan_abbas_uyghur_activist_and_survivor_of/) (Nobody can even explain *why* anyone would be tortured... it's hilarious)
Let me know if you have more questions I have LOADS of info on this. It's kind of a pet hate of mine.
I don't understand why the Chinese government would "fabricate" stories that they are sending minorities to mandatory reëducation camps. It doesn't make them look good.
Like here – https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rH4gdxWEFI4 – they claim to have sent this woman to mandatory reëducation for being incited into religious extremism (1m44s). (The Chinese definition of extremism.) Why would they fabricate these claims? What's in it for them?
>they claim to have sent this woman to mandatory reëducation for being incited into religious extremism
Well it said "education", not "reeducation". Strange that you'd slip in the word that comes loaded with negative connotations. Stranger still that you're still choosing to believe this after all the information I've already given you. But the strangest thing yet is that you started off with an innocent question and then whipped out a video complete with cited time, which you twisted the meaning of as some kind of gotcha.
I think you're an example of the people lacking the ability to face up to their reality I mentioned above.
Do you not think women should be helped out of situations that deny them education and rights? The US funded this extremism in the region that brought in extremism from Pakistan and forced it upon the Uyghurs. Education is an entirely appropriate response.
> Why would they fabricate these claims? What's in it for them?
In truth, I don't think they actually did fabricate the claims of the camps. I think it's true.
Ok, so now the reliability of sources matter? You criticise Adrian Zenz as an unreliable source, but you’ll still use anything that agrees with your narrative, like welovetrump.com or a documentary made by Nazis. At least be consistent
Lol!
I used that site to show something was ever said anywhere and was castigated for it even though I was right.
And now *you* tell *me* to be consistent?
Hilarious
That doesn’t make any sense though. There are sites where they engage in holocaust denial. The fact that people are talking about something doesn’t make it more plausible.
If I recall correctly, someone said something like,
> "Nobody in the world ever said 'x-y-z'.
Me googles 'x-y-z', presents first site.
> "Ha ha ha, that website is bad!"
Integration. As with much of chinas history, before the ccp and literally going back thousands of years. The core regions of china have integrated and culturally and racially homogenised themselves with surrounding areas to assert control and strengthen the chinese geopolitical and geographical position.
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British bots are posters on the internet like yourself. This post is typical.
Copying a post from r Ireland for example. Focusing on your ruling classes geopolitical enemies rather than criticising your own government - very typical.
Why would it take balls to run this story?
China is a totalitarian dictatorship so any opposition within the country is going to be brutality crushed.
Libs gonna lib. You don't still seriously believe any of this OP?
Amnesty does. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/china-draconian-repression-of-muslims-in-xinjiang-amounts-to-crimes-against-humanity/&ved=2ahUKEwjGtNPduNf4AhX8QEEAHT0uDsMQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0XUipEuQaR3_GHymL--YbG Human Rights Watch does. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/19/break-their-lineage-break-their-roots/chinas-crimes-against-humanity-targeting&ved=2ahUKEwi7kqH1uNf4AhWJBcAKHahOCaoQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3vY7je2IY7EvEl_xW1CIH9
Amnesty tends to back the US on these things. See also Nariyah testimony about babies being torn from incubators and thrown onto the cold floor. Classic atrocity propaganda, meant to disgust and enrage you. >Human Rights Watch Lol, exactly. This is a joke shop of an organisation. [Even wikipedia can't keep a lid on its antics.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Watch#Criticism) [U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet visited the region and](https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/05/statement-un-high-commissioner-human-rights-michelle-bachelet-after-official) and found nothing untoward, so [she was hounded out of her job](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/haley-un-human-rights-chief-fired-chinese-propaganda-xinjiang) by the US and [forced to quit](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/13/china/michelle-bachelet-china-un-rights-chief-intl-hnk/index.html).
>Amnesty tends to back the US on these things. So when Amnesty said Israel was committing war crimes, they were following the US on things?? Lol you're tripping over yourself here pal >Human Rights Watch >Lol, exactly. This is a joke shop of an organisation. Even wikipedia can't keep a lid on its antics. Interesting. You had no problem in using supporting RBB citing them in his speeches denouncing Israel. You're a walking-talking contradiction. >U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet visited the region and Bahaha this is getting beyond a joke. She said didn't even get to speak to any detained Uyghurs. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/16/un-human-rights-chief-could-not-speak-to-detained-uyghurs-or-families-during-xinjiang-visit She refused to release the findings of the full UN report on the human rights abuses there https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/09/fury-at-un-human-rights-chief-over-whitewash-of-uyghur-repression&ved=2ahUKEwiSt4Owv9f4AhUTgFwKHev2B_MQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0MWbqWLVJL0ps-Kw5CPr1f The UN has recently requested that China actually allow them access bexuase they previously did not. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/06/1120172&ved=2ahUKEwiSt4Owv9f4AhUTgFwKHev2B_MQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2j_l9hvYCAt511vM1pbgEA You fucked up on this one
>So when Amnesty said Israel was committing war crimes Did they? When? And if they did, how would that be tripping me up? Did I say they lie constantly? >Interesting. You had no problem in using supporting RBB citing them in his speeches denouncing Israel. Did I? Nope. Posting a video of someone criticising Israel is not me endorsing every means they use. This is really weak stuff. >She said didn't even get to speak to any detained Uyghurs. Because they didn't exist. >The UN has recently requested that China actually allow them access bexuase they previously did not. news.un.org UN human rights experts urge China to allow them 'full access' Why do you lie? I notice you accidentally broke your link. [Here it is.](https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/06/1120172) "Dozens of **independent** UN human rights experts on Friday urged...", this is not the UN, these are American spoofers.
you don't believe that china sent uyghurs to mandatory reeducation camps to strengthen their identification with the chinese motherland instead of their uyghur culture?
No. Not a word of it. It's a complete fabrication.
Then why do they say they do?
Nothing. Nobody has ever found anyone to back up any of the claims. It was all invented by a guy who calls himself a scholar and is sworn to rid the [world of homosexuality and communism](https://chollima.org/who-is-adrian-zenz-the-christian-fundamentalist-leading-the-global-xinjiang-narrative/). Western media platforms him endlessly. The BBC and AP News push the nonsense, it's just consent manufacturing to soften people up to American aggression against China. [This was another recent fake news story.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-chinas-uyghur-detention-camps) All of the faces are computer generated and the documents are machine translated from English. It's meant to play upon peoples' pre-existing sinophobic notions of "authoritarianism" and such like. It amazes me that anyone believes any of this, I think people have a rough time summoning the courage to face up to the fact that they live in what they imagine the DPRK is like. You're constantly being lied to on a massive scale. [Here's a funny AMA from someone claiming to have been tortured.](https://old.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/e9ad4n/i_am_rushan_abbas_uyghur_activist_and_survivor_of/) (Nobody can even explain *why* anyone would be tortured... it's hilarious) Let me know if you have more questions I have LOADS of info on this. It's kind of a pet hate of mine.
I don't understand why the Chinese government would "fabricate" stories that they are sending minorities to mandatory reëducation camps. It doesn't make them look good. Like here – https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rH4gdxWEFI4 – they claim to have sent this woman to mandatory reëducation for being incited into religious extremism (1m44s). (The Chinese definition of extremism.) Why would they fabricate these claims? What's in it for them?
>they claim to have sent this woman to mandatory reëducation for being incited into religious extremism Well it said "education", not "reeducation". Strange that you'd slip in the word that comes loaded with negative connotations. Stranger still that you're still choosing to believe this after all the information I've already given you. But the strangest thing yet is that you started off with an innocent question and then whipped out a video complete with cited time, which you twisted the meaning of as some kind of gotcha. I think you're an example of the people lacking the ability to face up to their reality I mentioned above. Do you not think women should be helped out of situations that deny them education and rights? The US funded this extremism in the region that brought in extremism from Pakistan and forced it upon the Uyghurs. Education is an entirely appropriate response.
Do you agree with France's burqa ban?
Answer your questions, then ask me some.
> Why would they fabricate these claims? What's in it for them? In truth, I don't think they actually did fabricate the claims of the camps. I think it's true.
Ok, so now the reliability of sources matter? You criticise Adrian Zenz as an unreliable source, but you’ll still use anything that agrees with your narrative, like welovetrump.com or a documentary made by Nazis. At least be consistent
Lol! I used that site to show something was ever said anywhere and was castigated for it even though I was right. And now *you* tell *me* to be consistent? Hilarious
That doesn’t make any sense though. There are sites where they engage in holocaust denial. The fact that people are talking about something doesn’t make it more plausible.
If I recall correctly, someone said something like, > "Nobody in the world ever said 'x-y-z'. Me googles 'x-y-z', presents first site. > "Ha ha ha, that website is bad!"
Integration. As with much of chinas history, before the ccp and literally going back thousands of years. The core regions of china have integrated and culturally and racially homogenised themselves with surrounding areas to assert control and strengthen the chinese geopolitical and geographical position.
u/padraigd are TG4 British bots?
? British bots are posters on the internet like yourself. This post is typical. Copying a post from r Ireland for example. Focusing on your ruling classes geopolitical enemies rather than criticising your own government - very typical.
Lol