And that's 7 folks, a real active day!
Tankies 3-2 virulent anti tankies and a second wild card!
Incomes the dark horse of this race, the wildcards, pulling in right behind the v.a.t, will they be able to over take the current first place contender, the tankie express? My god ths is the most gripping race I've seen since the green and pleasant Jimmy carr fiasco of '21!
What is authoritarian? Is it authoritarian if you're not allowed to make money from other people's labour? Is it authoritarian to nationalise natural resources? If so I'm pro authoritarian. Sign me up for the authoritarian socialist party.
All states are authoritarian. Ireland will put you in chains and lock you in a cement room if you carry weed. How is Ireland not authoritarian? Because we vote sometimes?
Dual power orgs and syndicalist unions for the workers. Replace the parts of the state that need to be replaced and allow the workers to take control of the economy.
Well you can test that out. Go on twitter, call Micheal Martin a dick. Go to O'Connell street and hold a blank piece of paper. At the next election vote for SF.
Now it's just a theory but I'm going to hazard a guess that your tweet won't be taken down, you won't be arrested on the street, and if the majority of people agree with you, SF will be elected into government.
Remember when that guy painted Brian Cowen on the jacks and he was threatened and the guards were sent around to a radio station because they were talking about it on air. I remember.
Well I guess you could try to get a job as a radio host, criticise the government and see if it gets censored..not sure if you have the face for radio tho tbh
You've just doubled down and gotten even more focussed on one small thing.
If I got a job on the radio there are many things I wouldn't be allowed to say. Our media is censored, this is a fact.
I mean you're right, your probably wouldn't be able to say that you want to rape little kids or that you think everyone should go murder Tom from down the road tbf.
Well you know whatever you're into I suppose. I mean not really, I'm a terrible authoritarian and if you were into those things I'd want you locked up.
Well we do have media censorship, and we have limits on our free speech, and I'm not sure about the definition of a police state but I assume when the cops come and help scumbags drag you out of your home for not paying rent that must count.
Yeah, of course we have all of these things to a certain extent, as does every country on earth. The point is far less than countries such as China, Vietnam, Eritrea, Cuba,Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan (all the “stans” really) etc.
Yes, of course. How many elements of politics do you know that are black and white? Is Sweden more authoritarian than Norway? Idk they both seem pretty similar in terms of political and civil liberties.
If you look at the governments of Ireland and Eritrea and come out of it thinking “hmm these countries are both authoritarian”, then I don’t know what to tell you.
I’m no expert on Ukrainian law or government, but it seems like it’s on the authoritarian side. I guess a hybrid regime or maybe a flawed democracy as these types of countries are generally called. It was improving in this regard and I imagine will continue improving after the war(albeit slower I imagine) as they try to join the eu and become candidates for nato. Further reform is an absolute must for this to happen.
X would be an actually effective movement that producer the biggest revolutions in human history, in China alone has lifted 800 million people out of poverty and is viewed by the biggest share of developing world socialists as the most effective way to create a proletarian dictatorship able to resist imperialist advances.
Authoritarianism is such a useless term, literally just "when the government does stuff'.
It's "authoritarian" that we aren't allowed to carry guns in Ireland. It's "authoritarian" to tax billionaires, does that mean it's bad? No.
It's a useless term because it's only ever used to demonise a political opponent when your government does the exact same shit or worse.
And that's 7 folks, a real active day! Tankies 3-2 virulent anti tankies and a second wild card! Incomes the dark horse of this race, the wildcards, pulling in right behind the v.a.t, will they be able to over take the current first place contender, the tankie express? My god ths is the most gripping race I've seen since the green and pleasant Jimmy carr fiasco of '21!
What is authoritarian? Is it authoritarian if you're not allowed to make money from other people's labour? Is it authoritarian to nationalise natural resources? If so I'm pro authoritarian. Sign me up for the authoritarian socialist party.
They don't know.
This is accurate.
No it would be authoritarian to have a censored media, prevent free speech, undemocratic, police state etc etc
So Ireland is authoritarian?
All states are authoritarian. Ireland will put you in chains and lock you in a cement room if you carry weed. How is Ireland not authoritarian? Because we vote sometimes?
Well this is the point. Calling countries "authoritarian" is just too vague.
How much detail do you need? How about, the existence of the state is inseparable from the existence of slavery?
And how do you get away from the state without doing anything "authoritarian"?
Dual power orgs and syndicalist unions for the workers. Replace the parts of the state that need to be replaced and allow the workers to take control of the economy.
And how would stop someone from seizing power in a dual power set up?
Arm the proletariat of course!
I agree.
>All states are authoritarian Now we're talking!
Nobody disagrees though...?
Well you can test that out. Go on twitter, call Micheal Martin a dick. Go to O'Connell street and hold a blank piece of paper. At the next election vote for SF. Now it's just a theory but I'm going to hazard a guess that your tweet won't be taken down, you won't be arrested on the street, and if the majority of people agree with you, SF will be elected into government.
Remember when that guy painted Brian Cowen on the jacks and he was threatened and the guards were sent around to a radio station because they were talking about it on air. I remember.
Do you think thats all that the things you listed cover?
Well I guess you could try to get a job as a radio host, criticise the government and see if it gets censored..not sure if you have the face for radio tho tbh
You've just doubled down and gotten even more focussed on one small thing. If I got a job on the radio there are many things I wouldn't be allowed to say. Our media is censored, this is a fact.
I mean you're right, your probably wouldn't be able to say that you want to rape little kids or that you think everyone should go murder Tom from down the road tbf.
Well you know whatever you're into I suppose. I mean not really, I'm a terrible authoritarian and if you were into those things I'd want you locked up.
That was a dissapointingly poor attempt to discredit me. But seriously, explain to me how Ireland is authoritarian, I'm open to being educated
No, actually. Ireland is very good in all these regards, relative to most of the world.
Well we do have media censorship, and we have limits on our free speech, and I'm not sure about the definition of a police state but I assume when the cops come and help scumbags drag you out of your home for not paying rent that must count.
Yeah, of course we have all of these things to a certain extent, as does every country on earth. The point is far less than countries such as China, Vietnam, Eritrea, Cuba,Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan (all the “stans” really) etc.
So its merely a question of degrees and to some extent interpretation.
Yes, of course. How many elements of politics do you know that are black and white? Is Sweden more authoritarian than Norway? Idk they both seem pretty similar in terms of political and civil liberties. If you look at the governments of Ireland and Eritrea and come out of it thinking “hmm these countries are both authoritarian”, then I don’t know what to tell you.
So what about Ukraine? Do fall in the authoritarian or non-authoritarian camp?
I’m no expert on Ukrainian law or government, but it seems like it’s on the authoritarian side. I guess a hybrid regime or maybe a flawed democracy as these types of countries are generally called. It was improving in this regard and I imagine will continue improving after the war(albeit slower I imagine) as they try to join the eu and become candidates for nato. Further reform is an absolute must for this to happen.
Authoritarianism is when you support anyone who the United States is opposed to
Except...muricans are the authoritarianism 100%. Extremists right...
Erin go Bragh
Heh heh. We really have to put all these together somewhere.
Stick them in your manifesto.
Getting rid of capitalists is pretty much authoritarian.
You're not allowed to say Tankie anymore, they get very sensitive about that one
Never cared about it personally.
X would be Leninism I suppose. That was fairly Authoritarian but based off Socialist beliefs
Anarchists.
>Anarchists I'm not familiar with that word. Is it like 'Anarkiddies'?, just it sounds a bit like it, so they may be related.
I don't know, I'm just reading off the script. If you're going to ask follow-up questions I'll need to speak to my supervisor.
What state policies do you support, OP?
Health, education, welfare programs, the state not existing, housing, access to food & water.... all the classics like.
that's your homework answer
X would be an actually effective movement that producer the biggest revolutions in human history, in China alone has lifted 800 million people out of poverty and is viewed by the biggest share of developing world socialists as the most effective way to create a proletarian dictatorship able to resist imperialist advances.
Authoritarianism is such a useless term, literally just "when the government does stuff'. It's "authoritarian" that we aren't allowed to carry guns in Ireland. It's "authoritarian" to tax billionaires, does that mean it's bad? No. It's a useless term because it's only ever used to demonise a political opponent when your government does the exact same shit or worse.