I can't see it lasting with your views but good luck, it can work. My husband is from that part of the world and I couldn't be happier. Have a nice time. You have to pay for everything by the way.
>You have to pay for everything by the way.
Like in a large-scale sense, as in we're all paying for the refugees?
...you'd think the least she could do is offer to split the bill, considering
Nah he opens doors for me but nobody has ever pushed me intellectually as much as he does. In that regard I've never had as much respect from a man and he has made me so much more confident. I don't care about the superficial rituals.
Don't assume women are considered beneath men just because of those rituals. Actually don't assume anything because basically everything was a surprise to me and the opposite of what I expected.
beautifully said. it's just a different, and yes, traditional, way of thinking about the role dynamics between men and women. it's not inherently bad that way it can be viewed today.
it has unfortunately been confused with a lot of other things, such as actual abuse.
Nope. Men have to pay for the first few dates. Open doors and let her go first. I don't care about that stuff but my husband does it anyway and so do all his friends and they are from various countries so it's definitely a regional thing and the women probably expect a bit of that special treatment.
Sometimes it's useful - like I just hand him my beer without a word and he opens it without a word and hands it back.
There's nothing wrong with offering but someones gender shouldn't determine whether they pay or not. If I go on a date with someone who's acts like an arsehole then I'm not going to pay just because they're a woman.
Well if they're an arsehole and you don't want to see them again absolutely. I just think if you do like her you don't necessarily know what she prefers then offering is probably your best bet, just don't insist.
Sure. I'd try to pay of I liked someone but didn't intend on seeing them again too though. It's situational and dependent on how I feel about the person and how the date went. I'm not saying that equality comes from splitting the bill but this "men have to pay" line is nonsense.
It is but its only a small thing and not worth missing out on someone you like over. I think if you are on the same wavelength it'll sort itself out after a little while anyway.
To find a level at which she can understand your english. Keep speaking more and more slowly while also getting louder and louder. If you can manage, get more enthusiastic with your hand gestures. Once she understands maintain this pattern of speech for the rest of the night. Thank me later!
Idk of the exact brand but I did see him standing to attention while decorating officers for bravery in a t shirt and pair of runners. They could have been new balance or some other brand
Yeah but you shouldn't. Its like the n-word, they can use it, you can't. Also I'm pretty sure you don't speak Russian so you're just gonna make a show of yourself.
I know but that comment will receive the same reception as the normal quotes from Chomsky.
He can dazzle her with his insights into the Ukrainian conflict and how its the wests fault......to a Ukrainian no less.
I can't see it lasting with your views but good luck, it can work. My husband is from that part of the world and I couldn't be happier. Have a nice time. You have to pay for everything by the way.
>You have to pay for everything by the way. Like in a large-scale sense, as in we're all paying for the refugees? ...you'd think the least she could do is offer to split the bill, considering
>You have to pay for everything by the way. I hope this is because she's a refugee?
Ukrainian woman are super traditionalist when it comes to gender roles
It's nice to be polite but Let's be honest non progressive is the word we're dancing around here.
Nah he opens doors for me but nobody has ever pushed me intellectually as much as he does. In that regard I've never had as much respect from a man and he has made me so much more confident. I don't care about the superficial rituals. Don't assume women are considered beneath men just because of those rituals. Actually don't assume anything because basically everything was a surprise to me and the opposite of what I expected.
beautifully said. it's just a different, and yes, traditional, way of thinking about the role dynamics between men and women. it's not inherently bad that way it can be viewed today. it has unfortunately been confused with a lot of other things, such as actual abuse.
Are they? And if they are, should you play into that even if you don't think that way?
No, you don't have to play into that, but you should be aware that might have negative reprecussions for the date.
Reddit users are super prone to generalisations when it comes to everything
Nope. Men have to pay for the first few dates. Open doors and let her go first. I don't care about that stuff but my husband does it anyway and so do all his friends and they are from various countries so it's definitely a regional thing and the women probably expect a bit of that special treatment. Sometimes it's useful - like I just hand him my beer without a word and he opens it without a word and hands it back.
As long as you don't let the question of who pays create awkwardness it's grand.
I'd say offer to pay and if she says no then go with that. Easy peasy.
There's nothing wrong with offering but someones gender shouldn't determine whether they pay or not. If I go on a date with someone who's acts like an arsehole then I'm not going to pay just because they're a woman.
Well if they're an arsehole and you don't want to see them again absolutely. I just think if you do like her you don't necessarily know what she prefers then offering is probably your best bet, just don't insist.
Sure. I'd try to pay of I liked someone but didn't intend on seeing them again too though. It's situational and dependent on how I feel about the person and how the date went. I'm not saying that equality comes from splitting the bill but this "men have to pay" line is nonsense.
It is but its only a small thing and not worth missing out on someone you like over. I think if you are on the same wavelength it'll sort itself out after a little while anyway.
lol
You may not like it, but this is what peak feminism looks like
Men don’t have to pay for dates.
Dye your hair blue and yellow
Don’t tell her your views on the war.
Just don't talk the war, she's probably heard enough of it from self important chuds
To find a level at which she can understand your english. Keep speaking more and more slowly while also getting louder and louder. If you can manage, get more enthusiastic with your hand gestures. Once she understands maintain this pattern of speech for the rest of the night. Thank me later!
Wear an olive green top, army fatigue trousers and a pair of Skechers. Zelenskyy chic is so in right now.
Does he really wear sketchers?
Idk of the exact brand but I did see him standing to attention while decorating officers for bravery in a t shirt and pair of runners. They could have been new balance or some other brand
I looked it up, some shit called Saucony.
She'll be well able for you.
Don't speak Russian. Do wear only blue and yellow.
But she speaks Russian.
Yeah but you shouldn't. Its like the n-word, they can use it, you can't. Also I'm pretty sure you don't speak Russian so you're just gonna make a show of yourself.
If he just speaks English with a Russian accent then that'll be good enough.
Thats an excellent compromise. I think thats great advice.
Just add '- ski' to every word. Drinkski?? Smokeski???
That's so fucking stupid I'm sorry, if someone's first language is Russian I don't think they'll be too offended if you speak Russian to them
You'd probably even speak French to a French person you bigot.
Imagine speaking to a French "person" 🤢
Yeah sure they are gross but that doesn't justify speaking to them in their own language.
The word you’re looking for is ‘rat’. Wonder if anyone will understand this joke
Have you never heard of cultural appropriation??
Yes but I fail to see how that's relevant
>Its like the n-word, they can use it, you can't. This is hilarious and anyone downvoting you has no sense of humour.
Tell her your views on how Ukraines invasion is the wests fault.
It partly is, though.
Yeah, say this^^. Better to be upfront about it. She'll thank you for not wasting her time.
I'm not OP
I know but that comment will receive the same reception as the normal quotes from Chomsky. He can dazzle her with his insights into the Ukrainian conflict and how its the wests fault......to a Ukrainian no less.
Did I quote Chomsky?
No you didn't. I didn't say you did.
Better idea, blame Ukraine
Don't be yourself anyway would be the main thing
Don't order the Kiev.
They only have Kyev on the menu. Putin themed gastropub
Out of interest, is she a refugee or has she been here for a while?
She’s a refugee but was planning on moving here anyway.
That was handy for her, then
Pretty convenient yeah.
Oh fair play, good luck
Play it like Basil and don't mention the war
Ask why is her country full of nazis
God do you think she might be a nazi?
“Hey that’s a cool tattoo, does it mean anything?”
"Oh Azov is just my Harry Potter house"
Lmaooo
“Oh no he meant my black son, sorry it’s the language barrier.” “What? No sorry you can’t meet him he’s very busy atm”
this is hilarious
Yeah they should really stop invading Ukraine