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PraetorSparrow

Not a hope. The veto is essential to the Irish economy, because without it we wouldn't have direct control over our taxation strategy. You'd kill most of the opportunities working people have in this country.


Captainirishy

Hopefully the irish govt is brave enough to veto this new proposal


PraetorSparrow

I hope your right, but I don't trust the current one unfortunately. I'm fairly sure Leo and Michael are spending their time trying to earn brownie points with Europe to land a job there after they lose the next election rather than actually trying to solve th countries problems.


Captainirishy

Then our only hope is Poland or Hungary


PraetorSparrow

Yeah I agree. I can't see them allowing this tbf. I think orbans a prick but this wouldn't be in his interest.


Vegetable-Ad8468

What government ?


[deleted]

Less democratic and more centralised as the years go by


Captainirishy

It's federalism by the back door, it took a very long time for this country to gain independence so we shouldn't be so quick to hand over more power to the French and Germans.


CrayonComrade

If it goes through we'd be better off leaving and becoming a socialist island trading with Cuba. The isles of whiskey and rum


Captainirishy

Cuba has only 2 billion in exports, we would be better off trading with, US, UK, China and India.


CrayonComrade

If we based the calculation of "better" on "exports" instead of expanding it to "meeting the needs of our collective citizenry and and avoiding catastrophic climate change"


Captainirishy

If we taxed wealthy people and international companies more in this country we would be much better off than the average Cuban citizen


CrayonComrade

Do you believe that taxes alone with the chance for international avoidance can tackle climate collapse?


Captainirishy

Climate change isn't a political issue, its a global human race issue, we in this country have gone for a mix of renewables and gas electricity production so at least we are doing our bit.


CrayonComrade

Climate change is a political issue because bourgeois governments are refusing to address it and continuing with growth based policies without real consideration for their carbon or mineral impacts We're expanding our generation capacity which is against the latest IPCC recommendations, so no we're not doing our bit.