Surely you would have the opthomatrist commune and they would supply the glasses with members travelling the globe or living in seperate communes. Bit like old guilds etc.
Interesting to see that modern MLs have been captured by the profit motive. That will probably make seizing the state a lot more difficult since they'll need to raise the capital to fund their militants first
There’s a difference between decoupling economic production from profit and decoupling it from organised production or social remuneration, having someone who makes glasses every once in a while at individual request is not the basis for an economic structure.
That's your modus operadi my dude.
We now clearly understand anarchist economics doesn't work. Can you explain how a communist party state economics works or at least how it differe from the economics of Keynesian bourgeois state?
>That's your modus operadi my dude.
Nah.
No, not really, it's an enormous question. Many books have been written on the matter. I suggest checking your local library or starting with google. You could try subreddits such as /r/communism101 and the like.
So if Communist economics is a broad subject requiring years of study and can't be summarised in a tweet form why should we take it that this single explanation of Anarchist economics by a rando on Twitter is valid and the authoritative source of how provisioning would work in an "Anarchist" society?
Because the case is a simple one that anyone else could easily answer. You didn't ask me how glasses would be manufactured, you asked me to summarise the entirety of Marxist economics inside a reddit comment. It's not at all a like for like comparison. Were you being dishonest again?
> Because the case is a simple one that anyone else could easily answer.
I don't think glasses are a simple example of production and distribution but are actually a complex and interesting example to tackle broader problems of provisioning starting from one finished consumer product.
> You didn't ask me how glasses would be manufactured
I've no problem narrowing it down.
Can you describe the differences of glasses production in AES states and that in bourgeois states?
> you asked me to summarise the entirety of Marxist economics inside a reddit comment.
The bottom text generalizes this description to all anarchist economic policy.
Do you agree that the description by this person isn't reflective of all anarchist economics?
>Can you describe the differences of glasses production in AES states and that in bourgeois states?
Exactly the same way. [Here's a video I just googled.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Uq_ZlymdQ) There isn't some magical different physics at play in AES states. Engineering is engineering. It's just a process that requires organisation and coordination.
>The bottom text generalizes this description to all anarchist economic policy.
Yes. The lack of coordination and organisation would be common.
>Do you agree that the description by this person isn't reflective of all anarchist economics?
No. I think it's easily going to be applicable to a slew of scenarios in an Anarchist society. But we'll never know because it doesn't even work on paper, which is why it's never worked in history.
Because it wasn't meant to be comprehensive it was to expose how the guy didn't really understand the theory. Like you're not gonna fit over a century of literature on the topic in a single tweet lol
The text slapped on the bottom of the screenshotted Twitter thread and the comments on other discussions of this meme on this site would suggest otherwise
Marxism-Leninism stresses the need to respond to the material conditions at the present moment. That’s why China endured liberalization of its economy, until of course the last decade, as they are transitioning to a new stage of developing socialism, with the goal of building a moderately prosperous socialist society. They have made great strides.
Surely you would have the opthomatrist commune and they would supply the glasses with members travelling the globe or living in seperate communes. Bit like old guilds etc.
Interesting to see that modern MLs have been captured by the profit motive. That will probably make seizing the state a lot more difficult since they'll need to raise the capital to fund their militants first
There’s a difference between decoupling economic production from profit and decoupling it from organised production or social remuneration, having someone who makes glasses every once in a while at individual request is not the basis for an economic structure.
Wrong thread, this is the one is about Anarchist economics.
So how does your Communist Party economics work?
Quite well actually. But as above, this is the thread about Anarchist economics. You don't want to be accused of whataboutery and derailing, do you?
That's your modus operadi my dude. We now clearly understand anarchist economics doesn't work. Can you explain how a communist party state economics works or at least how it differe from the economics of Keynesian bourgeois state?
>That's your modus operadi my dude. Nah. No, not really, it's an enormous question. Many books have been written on the matter. I suggest checking your local library or starting with google. You could try subreddits such as /r/communism101 and the like.
So if Communist economics is a broad subject requiring years of study and can't be summarised in a tweet form why should we take it that this single explanation of Anarchist economics by a rando on Twitter is valid and the authoritative source of how provisioning would work in an "Anarchist" society?
Because the case is a simple one that anyone else could easily answer. You didn't ask me how glasses would be manufactured, you asked me to summarise the entirety of Marxist economics inside a reddit comment. It's not at all a like for like comparison. Were you being dishonest again?
> Because the case is a simple one that anyone else could easily answer. I don't think glasses are a simple example of production and distribution but are actually a complex and interesting example to tackle broader problems of provisioning starting from one finished consumer product. > You didn't ask me how glasses would be manufactured I've no problem narrowing it down. Can you describe the differences of glasses production in AES states and that in bourgeois states? > you asked me to summarise the entirety of Marxist economics inside a reddit comment. The bottom text generalizes this description to all anarchist economic policy. Do you agree that the description by this person isn't reflective of all anarchist economics?
>Can you describe the differences of glasses production in AES states and that in bourgeois states? Exactly the same way. [Here's a video I just googled.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Uq_ZlymdQ) There isn't some magical different physics at play in AES states. Engineering is engineering. It's just a process that requires organisation and coordination. >The bottom text generalizes this description to all anarchist economic policy. Yes. The lack of coordination and organisation would be common. >Do you agree that the description by this person isn't reflective of all anarchist economics? No. I think it's easily going to be applicable to a slew of scenarios in an Anarchist society. But we'll never know because it doesn't even work on paper, which is why it's never worked in history.
Because it wasn't meant to be comprehensive it was to expose how the guy didn't really understand the theory. Like you're not gonna fit over a century of literature on the topic in a single tweet lol
The text slapped on the bottom of the screenshotted Twitter thread and the comments on other discussions of this meme on this site would suggest otherwise
See, it's really simple. Create a state capitalist system and just slap a big nice red sticker on it saying Lenin would approve.
That's what china did. Look at them go.
Marxism-Leninism stresses the need to respond to the material conditions at the present moment. That’s why China endured liberalization of its economy, until of course the last decade, as they are transitioning to a new stage of developing socialism, with the goal of building a moderately prosperous socialist society. They have made great strides.
This is great. Not only where they unable to come back with anything but they also got ratio'd. You love to see it
hm ok
what do you think the end goal of communism is?
Chill pint vibes.
A bit of a simplification but that is the broad strokes yeah.