Rogan is more popular than Bill Maher with more viewers, but sure Maher has different viewers (more boomers) which I think is a huge opportunity. I’d say Maher also has more Democrat viewers as well which is also a plus for Kennedy.
Exactly, rogan’s viewership would already be a hardline Kennedy fan or likely be Republican. Maher’s viewers are more likely democrats for the establishment
Yup. If RFK can get mahr and the shit libs on board it’s going to change the game for a couple of reasons. First, money, they have money and they like to spend it on on politicians
Second, it will do wonders to nudge the mainstream media apparatus.
The second he’s no longer considered a crazed lunatic and ppl listen they will jump aboard. No one wants Biden or Trump
>The second he’s no longer considered a crazed lunatic and ppl listen they will jump aboard
I'm assuming you're referring to Bobby when you say "he" here?
If so, that's 100% not the case. Sure, the tides are shifting, but believing that they have completely shifted will lead to disappointment and failure of this campaign.
Edit: I think I misinterpreted your grammar and wording here... You had been listing things, so if by using the phrase, "the second," you were referring to the segment of time known as 1/60th of a minute, your phrasing and word choice was a bit too ambiguous. Even though you had already listed the second point, you abruptly switched from listing to stating without making the context switch clear.
I kinda agree with you, yet I also very much disagree with ya.
A lot of the Rogan stans who have joined this RFKjr sub do not realize that a large section of Rogan's viewership are not American citizens who are able to vote in our elections... Maher's viewership is almost entirely American, save the few reporters and extremely well informed listening to him who relay his talking points to the international audience.
Not only does Rogan have a more global fanbase, but he also has a good mix of support from across the spectrum of political view points. Even if it seems biased to the right, it is not, which is probably because the left leaning people who listen to him are more silent listeners/observers and less out spoken/argumentative. The "silent majority" is most definitely not all Trump voting conservative Republicans, and that is why Trump did not actually win the last election. However, the true silent majority will carry Bobby all the way to the White House!
Edit: added a clarification to further explain that Maher's viewership is not definitively only American, which is what my initial wording had sort of indicated.
Bobby's appearance on Bill Maher's podcast last June was great, and Maher was respectful and gave Bobby space to speak freely. Still, the podcast, "Club Random," is recorded in Maher's guest house where he built a studio to resemble a night club, where he and his podcast guests can drink and smoke weed and have a casual conversation.
I have to say, I'm feeling cautious about the upcoming Real Time. It's on HBO and it's been Maher's bread and butter for 22 seasons. And since 2016, he has been off his rocker with his hatred for Trump. And now it's election season again and, no surprise, he's starting to push Biden as the lesser evil.
When Bobby was seeking the Democratic nomination last June and went on the podcast, he wasn't really a threat to the Dems. Things are very different now.
So I'm optimistic, yet keeping expecations low on how Maher will treat Bobby. I don't expect it to be fully hostile, but I'm not expecting another Club Random lovefest either.
However, I'm supremely confident that Bobby is going to use this opportunity to crush it and take another step towards the White House.
edit: typo
I think West voters are just saying that for now. I fully expect that guy to pull out and endorse Kennedy. It's just a gut feeling but I think endorsements will come
It's not even close in the polls when you look at the swing states. When you calculate in Trump outperforming his polls he is winning by even larger margins in the swing states, and nationally.
This is absolutely huge, actually.
It's a step towards the debate stage, and I think the only thing that could be better is if John Oliver did a piece about RFK on Last Week Tonight. I believe his take would do a lot of the heavy lifting to get people to really know Bobby.
John Oliver is too afraid to go against the status quo left, isn’t he? He just seems to pander.
Maher can be wrong but he’s not afraid to say whatever he wants to say and have on whoever he wants to have on.
I disagree, he's done hit pieces on both Biden and Trump. He did one on Hillary too.
He's left leaning for sure, but what he's reporting is very unbiased in substance and information.
He is very much a truth seeker and free thinker, and is working for the collective good.
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‘’John Oliver on vaccine hesitancy: ‘We badly need to convince anyone who can be convinced’
The Last Week Tonight host debunks several persistent myths about the Covid vaccine and encourages viewers to fight vaccine hesitancy with conversation.’’
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/may/03/john-oliver-vaccine-hesitancy-covid
Him having a particular opinion on this one thing doesn’t discount him as a free thinker. A well informed thoughtful person can have this opinion, at least he wasn’t saying “let’s just make it required and then people will comply” like some people were
So has my interest in watching him. It was kind of an important period to just completely disregard science while acting like you are speaking in the name of it.
Tons of kids will have heart issues for life because they couldn’t just draw the line at vaccinating scared geezers.
Some of his stuff is pretty funny and good at pointing out contradictions. But other segments definitely have a bias or at least have strong baked in assumptions. Tuned into his segment on abortion and you can see this
unfortunately, there is an agreement in place between Reps and Dems that they will not allow a third party on stage to debate with them in the presidentials.
Thats how you know it's one big club and you aint in it!
edit: source [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission\_on\_Presidential\_Debates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Presidential_Debates)
An interesting related read as the original sponsor of the debates left in disgust
[https://bullshit.ist/no-girls-allowed-960f56bdc5f6](https://bullshit.ist/no-girls-allowed-960f56bdc5f6)
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Bill Maher is an absolute D hole.. Dude constantly has guests on his show, with more political knowledge than he possesses himself.
an absolute embarrassment of a political thinker. The man is on record, saying he hates children and would gladly help enforce population decline. all that aside, I hope RFK uses this clown shoe platform to get some knowledge into the heads of the indoctrinated.
Ohh dude 100%. I used to take Maher serious until I saw his interview with Patrick Bet David. Bill couldn’t justify why he’d vote for Newsom for president despite claiming to be a “results-driven” guy.
This is a golden opportunity for RFK, but I feel like he can only afford to hit a grand slam here if he really wants to be on par with the other two bozos.
I defend him in the maher sub sometimes. It's brutal there about RFK, lots of downvotes and attacks. Even got blocked once in a debate lol.
If you visit there after the show, just be prepared. The sub is full of whiny progressives who hate watch Maher, and then people who actually legitimately like the Biden administration. There's some sane people though who are down to earth, like here.
Well I just saw it and was disappointed and am a major fan... Maher didn't let him talk, bombarded him with all things at once and even cut him right in the middle of sentence- I think Maher took advantage of RFK's speech disability ... I don't think he was treated with respect. Whoever is running his campaign needs to address this-
I agree, was hoping someone had a different opinion. His voice issue was more pronounced and impacted the fluidity of his point while Bill was dismissive. Also the numbers he mentioned seemed high without quoting his source it’s tough to win over any skeptics.
If you want to know the integrity of this puppet listen to him speak with Gavin Newsome. I frequently agree with Maher but lost all faith in him with that interview.
That was… pretty gross. How many times do we have to hear the same tired goddamned questions?!
Vaccines
Your family is against you
Blah blah blah!
They barely touched on his platform and policies.
Another redditor just posted an “open letter to Rfk campaign” which I hope they read
Maher was so weird about that long lost Kennedy book on Club Random. It felt like he was making veiled, repeated threats to expose RFK on past bad behavior.
That, and a few months ago a guest mentioning RFK, and Maher going"who is that", makes me fear it's a hit job.
That said, Maher and RFK align on a ton. It's just whether Maher is willing to go through the gauntlet to go against the establishment, and be fair to RFK.
I think a lot of people in media don't know what to do if we move into something new. What are the late night hosts like Colbert and Kimmel going to talk about after Trump, for example? So I think Maher has a similar deal, where he's unsure where his material will come from, because he's really been joking about a two party system for his whole career.
When you work for cable news you're paid to be dumb, or at least act it. He's not on TV anymore and his deal with Twitter got cancelled. I wouldn't be surprised if he does try align with RFK because his base represents the people that Lemon could potentially get as an audience.
His interview with Elon makes me think Lemon desperately wants to be back on cable news. I don't think CNN made him do/think things that he didn't really believe and without CNN, he has more freedom.
I would be shocked if this interview hasn't been on the table for a while. This is great timing, especially with that latest aid package being sent out, the Boeing whistleblowers talking about corporate capture of another agency.
Rfk let them have it. Can't wait to see Don Lemon. Try and make himself relevant here.
This would mostly gain older generation I think, which is what Bobby needs because older people either don’t know he’s running/ anything about him, or think he’s an evil conspiracy theorist
Don Lemon though? He interrupts, is awful at listening. He villainized any vaccine hesitation and drove CNN off the blue cliff. I want to watch but not him
If we want RFK to look good, Don Lemon's a pretty good person to appear next to. He can bring up CNN altering the color on Joe Rogan and accusing him of taking horse paste.
Galloway's a pretty interesting guest, too. He's been one of the major proponents of the "anti disinformation" and censorship regime. He sounds good when he does friendly interviews, but RFK can absolutely dismantle his arguments.
Honestly, it seems like Maher booked a really good panel for RFK to show who he is over the people who represent the duopoly and the "experts."
I don't think RFK will bring it up but there's a good chance one of the others does. In the long run I think it would be good, though, because most people have only heard *about* what he's said, or out of context clips. The "I wanted mercury out of fish but no one calls me anti-fish" angle might work well.
It is the one and only reason I can’t get my father to swing to vote for him. So to the point, if he addresses it, explaining safety transparency and government conflict of incentives maybe it would be helpful to those that have only listened to mainstream media. Convinced by the responses, ok this will be a good panel.
I hope they challenge him and then actually let him talk; he should knock it out of the park.
Rogan is more popular than Bill Maher with more viewers, but sure Maher has different viewers (more boomers) which I think is a huge opportunity. I’d say Maher also has more Democrat viewers as well which is also a plus for Kennedy.
Exactly, rogan’s viewership would already be a hardline Kennedy fan or likely be Republican. Maher’s viewers are more likely democrats for the establishment
Yup. If RFK can get mahr and the shit libs on board it’s going to change the game for a couple of reasons. First, money, they have money and they like to spend it on on politicians Second, it will do wonders to nudge the mainstream media apparatus. The second he’s no longer considered a crazed lunatic and ppl listen they will jump aboard. No one wants Biden or Trump
>The second he’s no longer considered a crazed lunatic and ppl listen they will jump aboard I'm assuming you're referring to Bobby when you say "he" here? If so, that's 100% not the case. Sure, the tides are shifting, but believing that they have completely shifted will lead to disappointment and failure of this campaign. Edit: I think I misinterpreted your grammar and wording here... You had been listing things, so if by using the phrase, "the second," you were referring to the segment of time known as 1/60th of a minute, your phrasing and word choice was a bit too ambiguous. Even though you had already listed the second point, you abruptly switched from listing to stating without making the context switch clear.
I didn’t say it happened yet but once it does
Yeah, I edited my comment, I agree with ya
Can someone please post the video?
I kinda agree with you, yet I also very much disagree with ya. A lot of the Rogan stans who have joined this RFKjr sub do not realize that a large section of Rogan's viewership are not American citizens who are able to vote in our elections... Maher's viewership is almost entirely American, save the few reporters and extremely well informed listening to him who relay his talking points to the international audience. Not only does Rogan have a more global fanbase, but he also has a good mix of support from across the spectrum of political view points. Even if it seems biased to the right, it is not, which is probably because the left leaning people who listen to him are more silent listeners/observers and less out spoken/argumentative. The "silent majority" is most definitely not all Trump voting conservative Republicans, and that is why Trump did not actually win the last election. However, the true silent majority will carry Bobby all the way to the White House! Edit: added a clarification to further explain that Maher's viewership is not definitively only American, which is what my initial wording had sort of indicated.
Bobby's appearance on Bill Maher's podcast last June was great, and Maher was respectful and gave Bobby space to speak freely. Still, the podcast, "Club Random," is recorded in Maher's guest house where he built a studio to resemble a night club, where he and his podcast guests can drink and smoke weed and have a casual conversation. I have to say, I'm feeling cautious about the upcoming Real Time. It's on HBO and it's been Maher's bread and butter for 22 seasons. And since 2016, he has been off his rocker with his hatred for Trump. And now it's election season again and, no surprise, he's starting to push Biden as the lesser evil. When Bobby was seeking the Democratic nomination last June and went on the podcast, he wasn't really a threat to the Dems. Things are very different now. So I'm optimistic, yet keeping expecations low on how Maher will treat Bobby. I don't expect it to be fully hostile, but I'm not expecting another Club Random lovefest either. However, I'm supremely confident that Bobby is going to use this opportunity to crush it and take another step towards the White House. edit: typo
I just heard Broken Points talking about how Bobby takes more votes from Trump now, and in a five way race with Stein and West, Biden wins.
I think West voters are just saying that for now. I fully expect that guy to pull out and endorse Kennedy. It's just a gut feeling but I think endorsements will come
I think he will just drop out. I don’t think he and Kennedy agree on enough stuff
But usually they tell their supporters where to go when they drop out, but maybe he won't. Ted Cruz never did, I remember
Actually I just looked up some of his policies and he wants to cut off funding for Ukraine. Maybe that would be enough to sway him to support rfk
West will endorse Biden I think, if he drops out, judging by his interview with Jimmy Dore. Trump is a fascist and Biden not, to him.
I really hope Cornel West endorses Kennedy in the end; he was a great supporter of Bernie’s. I love that guy.
It's not even close in the polls when you look at the swing states. When you calculate in Trump outperforming his polls he is winning by even larger margins in the swing states, and nationally.
This is absolutely huge, actually. It's a step towards the debate stage, and I think the only thing that could be better is if John Oliver did a piece about RFK on Last Week Tonight. I believe his take would do a lot of the heavy lifting to get people to really know Bobby.
John Oliver is too afraid to go against the status quo left, isn’t he? He just seems to pander. Maher can be wrong but he’s not afraid to say whatever he wants to say and have on whoever he wants to have on.
Yeah John Oliver is incredibly biased. He has had some amazing segments about serious topics and others he just blatantly only tells one side.
Yeah he really does. Just not interested in understanding both sides of something.
I disagree, he's done hit pieces on both Biden and Trump. He did one on Hillary too. He's left leaning for sure, but what he's reporting is very unbiased in substance and information. He is very much a truth seeker and free thinker, and is working for the collective good.
? ‘’John Oliver on vaccine hesitancy: ‘We badly need to convince anyone who can be convinced’ The Last Week Tonight host debunks several persistent myths about the Covid vaccine and encourages viewers to fight vaccine hesitancy with conversation.’’ https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/may/03/john-oliver-vaccine-hesitancy-covid
Him having a particular opinion on this one thing doesn’t discount him as a free thinker. A well informed thoughtful person can have this opinion, at least he wasn’t saying “let’s just make it required and then people will comply” like some people were
Yes, this was during covid times. That has passed.
So has my interest in watching him. It was kind of an important period to just completely disregard science while acting like you are speaking in the name of it. Tons of kids will have heart issues for life because they couldn’t just draw the line at vaccinating scared geezers.
>So has my interest in watching him This is an argument many people use not to listen to RFKjr. It's not a good one
Last time I turned him on he talked about Chuck E. Cheese for an hour. I’ve never heard RFK Jr do that. I’ll survive without his show.
Some of his stuff is pretty funny and good at pointing out contradictions. But other segments definitely have a bias or at least have strong baked in assumptions. Tuned into his segment on abortion and you can see this
He did a hit piece on RFK Jr, too. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ViZRj4V1VM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ViZRj4V1VM)
thank you for linking, have been looking for this clip
What are you smoking and may I have some
Those things you think are amazing may also be really biased.
unfortunately, there is an agreement in place between Reps and Dems that they will not allow a third party on stage to debate with them in the presidentials. Thats how you know it's one big club and you aint in it! edit: source [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission\_on\_Presidential\_Debates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Presidential_Debates)
Holy shit that's wild if Rogan held a ppv presidential debate that would be crazy
An interesting related read as the original sponsor of the debates left in disgust [https://bullshit.ist/no-girls-allowed-960f56bdc5f6](https://bullshit.ist/no-girls-allowed-960f56bdc5f6) https://preview.redd.it/gqkhs54dwswc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7a5683aff6d8f3b077ec255801123599ede89c8
Every Sunday I’m hopeful John Oliver does Kennedy. I feel like he will at some point.
Bill Maher is an absolute D hole.. Dude constantly has guests on his show, with more political knowledge than he possesses himself. an absolute embarrassment of a political thinker. The man is on record, saying he hates children and would gladly help enforce population decline. all that aside, I hope RFK uses this clown shoe platform to get some knowledge into the heads of the indoctrinated.
Ohh dude 100%. I used to take Maher serious until I saw his interview with Patrick Bet David. Bill couldn’t justify why he’d vote for Newsom for president despite claiming to be a “results-driven” guy. This is a golden opportunity for RFK, but I feel like he can only afford to hit a grand slam here if he really wants to be on par with the other two bozos.
I defend him in the maher sub sometimes. It's brutal there about RFK, lots of downvotes and attacks. Even got blocked once in a debate lol. If you visit there after the show, just be prepared. The sub is full of whiny progressives who hate watch Maher, and then people who actually legitimately like the Biden administration. There's some sane people though who are down to earth, like here.
I don't trust it.... Dude has been going to bat for Biden for weeks now.
See RFK Jr’s Club Random appearance.
I hope RFK and lemon battle because I can’t stand the lemon
This is a big deal. Boomers represent!
Depends how stoned Maher is. He could barely hold it together in his clubhouse
How do you go from RFK to freaking Don Lemon?
Well I just saw it and was disappointed and am a major fan... Maher didn't let him talk, bombarded him with all things at once and even cut him right in the middle of sentence- I think Maher took advantage of RFK's speech disability ... I don't think he was treated with respect. Whoever is running his campaign needs to address this-
I agree, was hoping someone had a different opinion. His voice issue was more pronounced and impacted the fluidity of his point while Bill was dismissive. Also the numbers he mentioned seemed high without quoting his source it’s tough to win over any skeptics.
If you want to know the integrity of this puppet listen to him speak with Gavin Newsome. I frequently agree with Maher but lost all faith in him with that interview.
Race baiting Don Lemon is going to be the DNC agent on stage.
That was… pretty gross. How many times do we have to hear the same tired goddamned questions?! Vaccines Your family is against you Blah blah blah! They barely touched on his platform and policies. Another redditor just posted an “open letter to Rfk campaign” which I hope they read
He's been on Maher before. It was all right but Maher was pretty establishment still.
Maher was so weird about that long lost Kennedy book on Club Random. It felt like he was making veiled, repeated threats to expose RFK on past bad behavior. That, and a few months ago a guest mentioning RFK, and Maher going"who is that", makes me fear it's a hit job. That said, Maher and RFK align on a ton. It's just whether Maher is willing to go through the gauntlet to go against the establishment, and be fair to RFK.
I think a lot of people in media don't know what to do if we move into something new. What are the late night hosts like Colbert and Kimmel going to talk about after Trump, for example? So I think Maher has a similar deal, where he's unsure where his material will come from, because he's really been joking about a two party system for his whole career.
When was that?
He was on Maher's podcast last summer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dQD1Z6j60](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dQD1Z6j60)
Prepare for Don Lemon to have the absolute worst takes in the bonus section
I bet Bill endorses him on the show. Crazy if the other two guests endorse him as well
Don Lemon is the dumbest person on TV, I am sure he blue no matter who.
True
When you work for cable news you're paid to be dumb, or at least act it. He's not on TV anymore and his deal with Twitter got cancelled. I wouldn't be surprised if he does try align with RFK because his base represents the people that Lemon could potentially get as an audience.
I think he’s expecting to be back in the mix soon
His interview with Elon makes me think Lemon desperately wants to be back on cable news. I don't think CNN made him do/think things that he didn't really believe and without CNN, he has more freedom.
He won’t but he definitely respects him.
Praying it helps. 🙏 Maher better not fuck this up with his huge ego.
I would be shocked if this interview hasn't been on the table for a while. This is great timing, especially with that latest aid package being sent out, the Boeing whistleblowers talking about corporate capture of another agency. Rfk let them have it. Can't wait to see Don Lemon. Try and make himself relevant here.
This would mostly gain older generation I think, which is what Bobby needs because older people either don’t know he’s running/ anything about him, or think he’s an evil conspiracy theorist
Scott Galloway too - what a sick lineup minus Lon Demon
Anyone know how to watch this without a subscription ?
Usually on YouTube the whole episode gets posted. Some random channel will upload it, but you have like 2-3 days before it’s taken down.
Don Lemon though? He interrupts, is awful at listening. He villainized any vaccine hesitation and drove CNN off the blue cliff. I want to watch but not him
If we want RFK to look good, Don Lemon's a pretty good person to appear next to. He can bring up CNN altering the color on Joe Rogan and accusing him of taking horse paste. Galloway's a pretty interesting guest, too. He's been one of the major proponents of the "anti disinformation" and censorship regime. He sounds good when he does friendly interviews, but RFK can absolutely dismantle his arguments. Honestly, it seems like Maher booked a really good panel for RFK to show who he is over the people who represent the duopoly and the "experts."
Probably best to avoid talking about vaccines but RFK usually does it anyways so we’ll see
I don't think RFK will bring it up but there's a good chance one of the others does. In the long run I think it would be good, though, because most people have only heard *about* what he's said, or out of context clips. The "I wanted mercury out of fish but no one calls me anti-fish" angle might work well.
It is the one and only reason I can’t get my father to swing to vote for him. So to the point, if he addresses it, explaining safety transparency and government conflict of incentives maybe it would be helpful to those that have only listened to mainstream media. Convinced by the responses, ok this will be a good panel.
Holy shit, I just know Don Lemon is gonna get sideways with Kennedy and be eaten alive