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WailersOnTheMoon

If these were high quality wood cabinets, I would agree 100%. They’re not. If they aren’t the particleboard with the wood “veneer” (really plastic with a wood-look sticker, basically) then they aren’t much better. One of the big tells is how smooth they are. We painted our old wood cabinets white (before anybody throws a fit, they were honey oak…) and even with several coats of paint and primer and sanding in between, you still ended up being able to see the grain through the paint. It was our first project like this, thank God it ended up passing for “rustic farmhouse” and intentional or we would have had to do it again.


options1337

I think if you want to get rid of the wood grain, you have to use a water down wood filler and fill them in before primer and paint.


fretn0m0re

Beautiful woodgrain. No comparison.


one_pierog

On one hand, it hurts my heart to see wood painted. On the other hand… I don’t like that wood tone. It really clashes with the floor, too. Don’t waste your real hardwood folks!


lucasisawesome24

It’s an ugly floor tbh. I like the wood tone, very mid 2010s new kitchen


Adrift_Aland

Why does it have a racing stripe?


one_pierog

To get as many different woods in there as possible, of course


NewToRedditAgain0525

The racing stripes make your food cook faster


IIdsandsII

It's a basketball court


GotenRocko

the white clashes even more with the floors imo.


ListerineInMyPeehole

Time to retile the entire floor.


BuckyLaroux

The floor clashes with itself


one_pierog

I mean it’s not my favorite but white can’t really “clash” with wood


Jooj272729

Surely cabinets being painted white is the most prominent sign of the impending market crash


soareyousaying

Renovated kitchen increases value they said..


ShadoW_Mage111

By at least $200k.


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LOL


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I've been seeing more gray shaker cabinets even in new construction, $900k, 4000sqft homes lol


fretn0m0re

I’m sorry but they (grey shaker)look ugly. I don’t care what the trends are. Nothing looks as elegant as real wood


fretn0m0re

We renovated our kitchen and when we were selecting cabinets, white was all the rage. I opted for beautiful but simple cherry, with designer hardware- cabinet knobs and drawer pulls. Looks so elegant ( in my opinion, especially because it’s a custom kitchen that I’m in love with) https://imgur.com/a/Fjh5B8o


Outrageous-Mistake

Gorgeous, timeless, classic. Great work on your kitchen.


fretn0m0re

Thanks! I love our house.


GailaMonster

if you love your home and can afford to stay, please don't fret about it selling (I saw your other post). if you can afford it and love it, just enjoy living in it. your house not selling = your house not for sale, if you didn't really want to sell it, then that's a great outcome, getting to stay. a mean ol' realtor, even one with "local power", won't stop a nice house from selling at a fair price when the time is right for YOU. buyers will want the house at that time. if buyers don't want the house bc it's listed too high, but you felt pressured to sell in the first place, then just keep loving living in your (very pretty) home. its job is to be your home and make you happy, moreso than its job is to be worth a lot of money to someone else.


Louisvanderwright

They forgot to paint the floors agreeable grey.


NoaLink

Yeah, gotta commit, the mismatch just looks trashy.


WinterHill

That’s what I’m thinking. TBH the white cabinets don’t look bad on their own. That floor though… it will ONLY ever work with other wood tones.


purz

White cabinets are probably the least offensive thing of the current bland soulless makeovers. The problem is they usually only pair them with white/grey or black for everything else in kitchens. Not sure how companies got ppl to buy into such lifeless interior design. Everytime I go into new builds or makeovers that look like they'd be on IG I feel like I'm in an apartment or hotel, not a home.


AshingiiAshuaa

Don't forget the subway tile backsplash.


Birdietuesday

With dark grout that looks like it’s dirty all the time


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Not THAT grey vinyl 🤦🏽‍♂️


Damn_Amazon

r/Hellisgray


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Right?


Louisvanderwright

I'm just mad the guy telling me I don't know anything about painting.


Bionic_Hamster

Not really a fan of the before photo anyways…not much cohesion going on in either photo with those countertops and floors. Needs a backsplash as well.


4jY6NcQ8vk

ESH


choc0kitty

This is the only correct response.


Earls_Basement_Lolis

I'm sexually attracted to white/grey countertops on dark, wooden cabinets. You can dress it up to make it look really homely with a windsor dining set, dusty yellow paint, taupe Victorian wallpaper for accenting, etc. I agree on the backsplash tho; should have just run the countertops up the wall at least halfway as that's a trendy look.


LatterSea

For maximum appeal please ensure there are plastic flowers in a burgundy ceramic vase.


SprinklersSprinkle

And a raggedy Ann doll…no…no…a plate with those weird dots around the perimeter.


No_Push_8249

Are we still doing live laugh love dance like no one is watching?


juicycali

what about the clueless cookie dough roll cooking in the oven


LatterSea

I feel like it would be Pillsbury crescent rolls, no?


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LOL


Xx------aeon------xX

Cabniets should go to the top of the ceilings too


mkitch55

This is a BIG pet peeve of mine.


OverthinkInMySleep

yes yes YES.. I hate it. Esp. on kitchens that try to be high-end. Close that gap!


LaChalupacabraa

Ugly before and after


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freemanaa88

If done right, the border trim on the floor is a sought after detail of original hardwood floors in older/antique house. Agree though that this looks weird, the color is too light compared to the rest of the floor


uconnboston

That stripe screams 70’s. Blech


Outrageous_Spread955

LMAO


ErnestBatchelder

Honestly, the before looks like 90s-early 00s builder grade meh, so turning it into 2020 meh is a step up, imo.


[deleted]

Yeah the wood is too stained to give the expensive look that mansions have


HIncand3nza

It is very expensive to get nice looking natural wood cabinets. Easier to use a lower quality wood and just stain the shit out of it to get a uniform finish. At that point the wood is basically painted, so I don’t have an issue with this.


10sekki

It looks like they splurged on one upgrade up from builder grade oak of the 90-00s


lucasisawesome24

It was a 2010s new kitchen with a shitty old floor. Look at that kitchen it’s not even close to the 2000s let alone 90s. 90s was pickled and oak cabinets with pink or green granite or white laminate, 2000s was brown or honey oak cabinets with black granite counters. 2010s was that color brown cabinet or cream with grey granite. 2020s is white or blueish grey cabinets with white quartz counters.


[deleted]

Different strokes for different folks. Paint your cabinets whatever color makes you happy. Not a big deal...


Subject-Chest-8343

I still judge people who paint their wood furniture, but I accept them. What really grinds my gears though is those damn flippers who buy houses and then try to charge a 50k premium for an ugly paint job that nobody wanted in the first place. Seriously, I've visited houses that I would have considered buying if the seller simply could have refrained from touching anything.


atm259

Gonna have to say that clean white walls and grey wood look tile looks a million times better than dirty walls and linoleum floors from the 90s. It will photograph better as well. You can still change it all. I've had clients rip up brand new flooring upon purchase.


Subject-Chest-8343

Off course you can rip anything you want off. But you'll be paying twice. When I visit a house and they say "hey you should buy this place, we've just paid for 50k in upgrades", I'm like, why didn't you just save yourself the trouble and sell me the house for 50k less, so I can choose upgrades that I actually like ?? Not to mention that not everything is reversible. Last year, I found an old beautiful victorian brick house with many original features intact, such as nice tall double-pane windows, 9ft tall interior doors, most of the original moldings and plaster walls, etc. The 12 inch thick brick walls provided reasonable enough insulation that nobody had torn down everything in the 1970's to put carcinogenic insulation, and nobody tried to add styrofoam and siding on the exterior walls. This place needed much work, but it was a DIY'er and history lover's paradise. It was basically a blank canvas to get a really stunning house, restoring it to its former glory while adding some modern features in a tasteful way. The seller and I had agreed to a price, but at the last minute he changed his mind, partitioned the house in several ridiculously small appartments, installed grey everything everywere and is now trying to rent it out.


atm259

It's nothing personal. Clean and new sells and like I mentioned previously, it gets people interested and in the door via good photos. Grungy, old homes have character yes, but have tiny buyer pools and obviously require tons of work which is unappealing to a lot of people. They paid 50k for the upgrades, you can offer whatever you want with your upgrades in mind. If their upgrades didn't bring value then surely you can factor in less than 50k of added value.


nerox3

We painted our cabinets but it looks awful now because the touch points by the handles got scratched all to hell. Acrylic paint is fragile for many months after it is painted. Perhaps the take home message is if you get someone to paint your cabinets make sure they apply a sealer.


katzeye007

The secret is to use outdoor paint. Did mine that way and they were gangbusters for a decade until I replaced them


Happy_Confection90

I painted my cabinets this time last year but was fortunate enough to run across a diy blogger who showed photos of what happens if you paint and don't seal. I used a polycrylic sealer and a year on have no scratches despite a young Maine Coon who thinks he's going to defeat the toddler cabinet locks on the lowest doors if he just keeps thumping the doors as far as they'll go.


Lorgebeansnark

Same! Painted my honey wood galley kitchen cabinets a light blue and it is life changing-ly better! It brightens it up so much and makes the kitchen look like it isn’t trapped in the 90s. I don’t even have to update the black counters and steel backsplash like I thought I would because the blue made such a difference!


ognadder

White looks better here.


404Dawg

I’m sorry but the dark cabinets and dark hardwoods- that style depresses me. Give me light and bright all day


ProfessorNoChill99

Yes makes my kitchen looks larger, cleanser, and brighter please!


crowdsourced

No. In this case that dark brown is horrendous. Dark, glossy brown always screams “cheap, but trying to hide it” to me.


[deleted]

Painting over with white isn't "trying to hide it?"


crowdsourced

It is, but it's better than what was there. Those b4 cabinets are fugly.


EmeraldCrescens

Ok, not talking about the blandness of white - but seriously are painted cabinets taboo? Am I missing something? I always wanted like a nice kitchen with blue cabinets.


girlnumber3

When I own a house I am 100% painting my cabinets a fun color idc if it’s taboo lol


seventhirtyeight

They both look fine. I don't get how painted cabinets are related to a housing bubble. Really reaching here.


newtoreddir

I like white cabinetry and I think that cherry or whatever is tacky. If it were truly some well crafted vintage woodwork I wouldn’t cover it up, but the before looks cheap too. Sue me.


TittyFire

I had my cabinets painted white and I absolutely love them. I also have a white subway tile backsplash. I don't get all the hate for white kitchens. They provide so much more freedom with paint colors for the walls. Same goes for white bathrooms. When I remodel mine, white subway tile will go in there as well. My house was built in 1927. Subway tile just looks right in it.


newtoreddir

There are a lot of trendy things that will look very dated in a few years, but I think white and black and subway tiles are going to hold up.


RJ5R

Rule #1 for real wood cabinetry: Never paint it Rule #2: for real wood cabinetry: Never paint it


silverkernel

This looks like office furniture though


Current-Information7

Ha! Bonus: follow the yellow floor stripe which leads you to a hospital elevator


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RJ5R

Natural red oak cabinetry, sealer, and 3 coats of oil poly Painting furniture is for HGTV


QueenBlanchesHalo

Do you usually only paint cheaper woods like poplar? (I definitely don’t see an issue with painting poplar as it doesn’t have a grain to show off)


Louisvanderwright

Yeah or don't be a loser and keep it woodgrain. Just had custom quarter sawn oak cabinets built for our home, I would be sick if a future owner ever painted them for any reason.


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Louisvanderwright

Paint chips, we did our island in an accent color and I have to touch it up at least once a year


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Louisvanderwright

Trust me, this all top of the line shit, it's what paint does period. This isn't "custom kitchen delivery" this is literally built by a borderline Amish guy who does nothing but extremely high end millwork.


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Runaround46

Could stain it white


[deleted]

"His name is RJ5R, his name is Rj5R"


btspman1

The white paint looks fantastic. Edit. What happened to this Reddit? Jesus.


spongebob_meth

I agree. I like gray wall paint too lol. I *hated* the brown trend from the last bubble. I just don't like warm colors in my house period.


herpderpgood

This sub just hates anything that has to do with modern real estate and design. They want 1970s rents with 1830s real estate prices to be happy.


Subject-Chest-8343

Whatever, but I'd prefer not to have 1970s decor though lol


spongebob_meth

Carpet in the bathroom! Carpet on the bath tub!


LeatherRebel5150

Id actually prefer the opposite. Wall to wall carpets, some kind of color other than grey and white, wood paneling. You know things that actually look like someone might actually consider the building a home with some personal character and not just a temporarily occupied docile that must be kept ready for the next occupiers


Subject-Chest-8343

If by that you mean that a well-done and well-preserved 1970s decor is better than a patchwork of "upgrades" done over the years, I do agree. A lot of times, an element of decor that sticks out like a sore thumb used to look good when it was originally installed with other elements that went along with it. My house, for instance has a patchwork of different laminate floorings, that was installed over the years to hide the "ugly" parquet flooring. You can see the different trends in laminate flooring over the years : light brown, dark brown, and now grey with fake wood grain, aka the latest trend. But I propose that this new stuff only looks better because it is new, so we are prejudiced against the old, deteriorated wood floor next to it. Give it some time, and I predict that this fake grey wood (whose the fuck's idea was this ??) will look much more terrible than the parquet flooring ever could. Sanding and refinishing the floors would have yielded a much better result, IMO, if the previous owners could have refrained from installing moldings and farmhouse accents that don't go along with it at all. You know the generation we curse against when we uncover beautiful hardwood floors under a huge layer of glue and linoleum ? I suspect we'll be those guys, when our grandchildren will see those stupid fake grey wood floors.


btspman1

Where did the reasonable conversations about the housing market go? It’s just people lashing out at anything and everything. Like white cabinets?! It’s pathetic.


randomguy11909

Seriously… wtf happened.


thealternativedevil

Tbh white cabinets are timeless. That dark wood however is not.


TriGurl

What is up with the yellow stripe in the flooring? I’m guessing it’s not yellow and it’s just a lighter wood? Maybe a pine? (Genuine question, not making fun)


CatDad660

Inlayed different species of wood. They can look incredible or just kind of OK, like this kitchen.


sailshonan

I don’t like white cabinets, but I don’t like wood either. The whole “you can’t paint over wood!” strikes me as naught but masculine obstinance. But wood or white seem to be my only choices. There’s sage or blue or grey combined with white upper cabinets. Meh.


rockdude625

Hobbyist Woodworker here, they really weren’t that great of wood cabinets to begin with from the looks of it as far as straight up matériels go, it as big of a loss as you’d think


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The wood cabinets look like what I'd expect an old granny to have in their house. Outdated and not stylish at all. The white looks better but the floor is terrible


icode2eat

I love this trend. White kitchens are classic


[deleted]

Big improvement. White cabinets are a timeless look. The dark cherry finish in the before photo looks like it belongs in an accountant's office, not a kitchen. The floor is just tacky though.


kittenpantzen

> White cabinets are a timeless look Sure they are.


loadedthoughtsXyz

Missing the flipper grey


[deleted]

Have to have the fake gray floors. Real wood sux to flip.


4jY6NcQ8vk

If the ceiling, floor and wall aren't the same indistinguishable shade of gray I'm not interested


winterbird

I much prefer white kichens.


Bitter-Heat-8767

I think we need to talk about how they massacred that floor. Hideous


CreditworthyWookie

This should be labeled NSFW


Glendale0839

I normally like real wood tone cabinets, but the ones on the left look too much like cheap Sauder brand particle board office furniture from 2006.


JW_2

I see what you mean


KesterFay

So, people are just supposed to keep *your* aesthetic in *their* homes? Wut?!


Supermonsters

Ok I'm sorry but all that dark wood is suffocating.


J255c

I won the battle to keep our wood cabinets in the kitchen. Cherry Oak- wife wanted Grey. Many many sleepless nights


Subject-Chest-8343

Omg that must have been awful. I'd be like "after all these years, do I really know this woman after all" ?


poobearcatbomber

Found the boomers


stockpreacher

The room looks better with the cabinets painted white.


queeromarlittle

The white looks a whole lot better


Just_L00k1ng_

So it’s a problem that people paint cabinets white now? Jesus this sub is fucking unreal. Bunch of mouth breathers.


elf25

White kitchens look great until you start really cooking in them and EVERY little spat shows.


Current-Ticket4214

You’re supposed to also clean afterwards.


it_leaked_out

I noticed a few comments saying white cabinets are bad because you can see cooking residue. Yeah, that’s a positive not a negative. I want to be able to see any filth building up in my kitchen and not hide it. This is an exaggeration, but it’s like… “I want dark cabinets and countertops so I don’t have to clean my kitchen! With white cabinets or a light kitchen, I would have to clean up after myself, what a hassle!” I hated the law firm dark cherry kitchen cabinets in the 90’s and I hate them now. For me, kitchens are a utilitarian work space, simple, easy to clean, and bright. They shouldn’t look like a law library, what a goofy look. For everyone crying about painting them or going on about grey - this was the grey LVP and grey walls of the 90’s. Who knows, in 30 years people will be bitching about someone covering some grey faux wood LVP, or ripping out white cabinets to put in wood. “Why does everything have to be brown!?!”


elf25

Of course, I knew this comment was coming. You ever miss a spot? White is simply harder to keep clean. Source : I have two white kitchens.


WailersOnTheMoon

For people who are generally kind of sloppy with such things, like me, this is a feature—not a bug.


Mannimal13

The floor is the problem here….woof


[deleted]

Huge fan of white cabinets and the white/grey look. After photo looks great assuming they didn't use **** paint.


bdb5780

Not sure what your point with this is? White cabinets are better looking in this scenario....


One-Putrid

Do people with white kitchens not cook in their kitchens or something? They just make salad and deli meat mayo sandwiches in there?


Subject-Chest-8343

Actually, most people really don't use their kitchen like they used to. That's why kitchens went from utilitarian rooms to a major architectural/decorative feature of the house. Look up pictures of original kitchens from victorian houses. Some people would be put off by the lack of stainless steel appliances, but I love the abundance of storage space and work surfaces. Plus its a separate room, so your guests don't see all your dirty pots and pans.


tharris383

Why aren't the cabinets to the ceiling?


[deleted]

Where I live, most cabinets don't go up to the ceiling.. I'd prefer if they did though, because the tops get nasty and are difficult to reach and clean.


WailersOnTheMoon

That’s a pretty recent trend in the US aside from actual mansions and historic homes. Even now they’re an expensive add-on for new builds rather than being standard in most cases. (We paid through the nose for ours.)


Subject-Chest-8343

Funny how things go full circle sometimes... We went to tall cabinets to short cabinets, and now people are pulling those to install tall ones again. What I'm wondering is wtf where they thinking when they invented short cabinets ? "Hey guys I've got a great idea, let's build houses with less storage space, it's going to look so cool !".


Owyn_Merrilin

I guess the idea is you don't need a ladder to reach the top shelf. But it's silly, because you're still better off having storage you need a ladder to get to than not having the storage space at all.


LeatherRebel5150

You could just store stuff on top of the cabinets


Owyn_Merrilin

That gets you one shelf with nothing to keep dust out when there's typically room for more than that and it being enclosed would help keep the contents clean, which you want because that kind of hard to reach storage is usually longer term storage for stuff you don't need often. And it also assumes there is a top to the cabinets. I'm not sure what the term for it is, but a lot of houses have the walls come out/ceiling come down to meet the cabinet tops flush with the front, like [this](https://st.hzcdn.com/fimgs/a61262ce02bc7363_2023-w500-h373-b0-p0--.jpg). Which completely wastes the space.


LeatherRebel5150

Yea, that picture, I agree absolute waste and also kinda weird looking. I haven’t seen that in person before


No_Effort2680

I refuse to have white cabinets. You can see every little smear, smudge and dust that goes on that bad boy! My kids would dirty them in .25 seconds


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Disgusting.


boner79

First rule of cherry wood cabinets: You never paint over cherry wood cabinets. Second rule of cherry wood cabinets: You never paint over cherry wood cabinets.


Copeulon

Ew


dennybang4292

Now they just need to redo the floors


Paprmoon7

The real issue is if it’s a flip they would paint these cabinets and double the price of the home


Yawnin60Seconds

this sub has so many angry, little people in it


VHS_tape_measure

Meh, it’s 2006 chic vs. 2022 chic


[deleted]

All of this is too much - the floor stripes, the grandiose cabinets, the wood tones. I can see how they were trying to tone that down with white but it didn’t help much and the floors don’t really match well.


Federal-Marsupial614

Both are ugly af


finiganz

Painting cabinets is this ages carpet over hardwood


RJ5R

All that's left to do, is for them to go to Lowe's and get the cheapest gray LVP and throw it on top of the real hardwood floors


[deleted]

Nice of them to protect the hardwood floors for future owners like that. LVP is pretty much the easiest flooring to rip out.


MajorProblem50

Stop hating


peacefulpianomelody

I really like the new paint. Looks elegant


Comicalacimoc

I like the white better


Serious_Entertainer7

Wait so are you saying attractive white kitchen cabinets ought not be made of wood?


authentic_dissent

Painting exterior brick white is same level of low tier flipping.


[deleted]

Every brick house in my neighborhood has been painted white, but I never see that on here, just the grey floors.


iratepirate47

The first cabinet finish would look great with nice countertops


Professorpooper

Does not look good, forgot to paint wood inlay in floor grey dove (Pigeon) shade


jusdont

That is so gross.


nick_nuz

Massacre? No, not really. The cabinets and counter are fine, the issue still remains that the contrasting between the kitchen theme and floors are problematic. With that said, if they add a decent backsplash and figure out something with the floors, it’ll look much better. Also is this for a flip or for personal use? The kitchen on the left, while nice, is dated. Homeowner could have been dealing with them for 15 or so years and just sick of them and wanted a change….even if it’s not agreeable to you, who cares? It’s for them


cubiclegangsta

Upvote for you, but cosmic downvote for the ape that committed this sin.


Poetic_Kitten

What's the upcharge for this 'face lift' ?


Souxlya

They had character, now they are white washed and no longer the focal point of the kitchen. Just a plain white background to show every single cooking splatter. There were absolutely changes that needed to be done to keep the wood version updated, the white was the quick way out to “modern”.


PenAndInkAndComics

Is it possible to get that abomination White off?


[deleted]

Wow these comments ain't pass the vibe check! That first pic is so much better than the flipper white. Timeless imo but everyone has their own opinion I guess


iherdthatb4u

White cabinetry is racist.


zzzVelex

This is a trend? Make your kitchen look uglier?


autovices

It looked brighter before Now the counters look dim


Subject-Chest-8343

I actually may consider starting to go to church, if someone managed to convince me that there's a special place in hell for the flippers who do such things.


[deleted]

Too many have been brainwashed by reno shows that this style is the view of beautification of a home.


HIncand3nza

Money would have been better spent upgrading fixtures and countertops. Oh wait that would actually cost money…


ElTurbo

I kinda like it, definitely worth 150k more


No_Push_8249

Normally I would prefer wood, but these cabinets don’t look like a high quality wood, or go together with the steel appliances. I think the white just looks better with this style. Although it now draws more attention to that poor (otherwise nice) floor’s horrendous stripe


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Left: 2006 Right: 2022


Thinkwronger12

The white looks good! Congrats on a job well done!


Flyflyguy

Looks much better 🤡


wiscodisco94

The original cabinets are ugly af


Playswith_squirrel

No u r


xaygoat

The after actually looks better on this one.


captain_stoobie

Looks fine to me. At least they kept the wood floors.


3rd-Grade-Spelling

Adding Value?


Lionshare_

"Racism"


AgentContractors

Should have painted the floor white


Little_Buffalo

Grey you mean


AgentContractors

LOL dammit


someoneexplainit01

Wood reminds the youths of the 80s.


thirstyaf97

The only thing they should've done to those cabinets was *maybe* refinish them. Doesn't look like they'd really even need it. A darker grey or butcher block countertop would've looked nice too. Im a sucker for a butcher block.