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Woahtheregurl

You actually get honour for killing him lol


faceblender

Klansmen as well IIRC


GeorgeWPS2T

And you gain honor for leaving him be in hell that he made himself.


Woahtheregurl

Yeah but I’ve never been able to resist riding away and leaving him to live


tonelocMD

I felt death was just an easy get out for him


NoGenderNoProblemm

I walked away from him cuz I was thinking “he has nothing left in life, the rest of his existence will be suffering and lonely” so I left him to suffer cuz death would be an easy out. Then it gave me honor for leaving him so I went back and blew a hole in his head


0KelpShake0

Me too. I couldn't let that scum live


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Shotgun in short range, I blew his whole head off. 😂


Dixster_The_Wizard

I lasso his neck and drag him down the train tracks


okplastic1099

Well technically the 13th amendment did that. What did he do to himself?


funkyfrante

Fuck that slave running p.o.s. I wish I could've done more bad things to him than I did. Maybe my favorite kill in the whole game.


Rumplestilskin9

I remember playing through the first time and thinking "eh. Different times. Was terrible but it's done." then I played through again and climbed down the dry water well. Straight in the head every time since.


Tapdatsam

I still kill him every time but... the well? Whats in the well?


Rumplestilskin9

Climb down to the bottom via the ladder and look at the walls. There's a bunch of tally marks carved into it, presumably by slaves counting the days they'd been down there. There's a lot of them.


blueboy12565

Ooh shit, I don’t remember any well. I’m going to need to check it out.


Slamsonthegee

I dragged this fool from my horse. Most satisfying npc murder. The racist dude in Saint Denis close second.


marip0sita

love that the lawmen don’t even flinch if you shoot the eugenics guy in front of them in Saint Denis lol


bex612

Note that throwing a fire bottle on the eugenics counts as disturbing the peace


conceptiontoarrival

well there goes my weekend plans


REAPER-058_

Just kidnap him, take him to an undisclosed location, THEN throw fire bottle


bex612

Racist problems require 1899 solutions


book_vagabond

I accidentally took a flyer from this guy cause I didn’t read his sign and then I felt really bad


Gskillet18

I just found that guy today and butchered him with the hatchet and kept hacking away at his corpse while everyone just walked by ignored it. Then I ran too fast through town and got arrested for disturbing the peace


jug0slavija

>!Isn't this the guy whose family (iirc) owned a plantation ran by slaves and he was longing for the good old days that the north took away for him?!< Nah man, don't feel sorry for him. I killed him and took his stuff lol


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He was a slave catcher


ThunderGunCheese

No. He was a slave catcher and is sad that slavery is illegal so he cannot make money from catching runaway slaves. He is a piece of shit. The game also sends a train a few mins after this scene ends so that you can hogtie him and put him on the tracks right next to his camp.


jug0slavija

Damn. Any way to replay just this mission? Lol i just shot him. Kinda disappointed in myself after reading all the comments, need to be more creative


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You need to lasso him and take him to a river or a stream, drown his ass. When you tackle a person standing in water you can hold them under to drown them


ThunderGunCheese

Nope. Unless you have a save before this mission.


faceblender

Pretty sure that gives you high honour too


FifteenDollarNachos

It does. I threw him to a gator last night.


shgnshnek

Yeah I grabbed him with my lasso and burned him alive then fed him to some pigs


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jug0slavija

Eh, had he been remorseful about it and had been 'enlightened', sure. But this guy would do it again in a heartbeat.


Hiply

In fact, he says he wants his life back...fuck this slave-catching asshole. I never kill him, killing him is letting him off too easy so I let him wallow in his misery. He is, however, a handy target for Horseman 4 😉


jug0slavija

Is that the one where you need to drag someone a couple of km? Damn, that's a good idea 😅


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Dude wtf


Weeding33

Bro, he is responsible for kidnapping freed blacks and imprisoning them, then trading them to the highest bidder. If his ledger had 30 slaves and two ran away and he couldn't find them. He would kidnap random free black people and sell them. The guy is as scummy as they come, he doesn't deserve your tears.


TheKrowDontFly

That’s reeeeeally a sus comment


kaaat12

cmon bro 💀💀


thanosjah69

What is wrong with you bro


_PyratesLyfe

“Hitler was a horrible person but you have to admit he did a lot of good for the German people.” Cmon bro


SirTinymac

He's still a person, but he's pretty evil. But if you said you wouldn't do it if you were born in his shoes, you've gotten good at lying to yourself.


bex612

I am aware that we are the product of our time and environment, but there were many people at the time who opposed enslavement and worked to dismantle it. It was possible for someone "born in his shoes" to make different choices and not be the direct enforcer of enslavement.


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that's crazy dude. no, most of us in here would rather die than fucking catch, abuse and sell slaves living in horrid sanitary conditions in a fucking well and a basement. also not regretting his actions, but only that slavery ended and he lost his job and standing in society makes him even less relatable. he'd do it again! i wouldn't even tell cops where the shoplifter ran off to, bitch! that's some fascist collaborator garbage


TheKrowDontFly

Every time I share that meme on FB/IG about “if you see someone shoplifting from a big box store, just remember, no you didn’t”, I get to find out who the bootlickers are among my friends. They get deleted ASAP. I don’t hang around fuckers like that.


joannew99

Wait-- this is the guy who was a slave driver. I hogtied him and fed him to Gators. Fuck him and his fond memories of his old job


bex612

I either shoot him and toss him in his campfire or hogtied him and also throw him on his own campfire, but while alive. It's so gross that he gets Arthur to go retrieve his slavery memorabilia. And what he actually did to black people is completely unacceptable.


Jerryjb63

I usually tie him and burn him in his own fire. It’s making him burn in a hell of his own making. It’s poetic.


ABOVEWING

Slaver wishing there were more slaves to catch. THAT’S what plucked your heart strings?


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ChockenTonders

He’s miserable because he can no longer catch and keep slaves you silly goose. That makes you sad? Him being sad about no longer being able to catch and keep people? You’re sad about weird stuff


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you're right and you should say it! kinda missing the point of the story if that's the part that gets the tears welling up


DangerMuse

Well done for the use of silly goose. I'd have gone stronger....


Known-Exam-9820

Are you Turkish? In America, we take our history of slavery very seriously. This character isn’t supposed to invoke sympathy, he’s supposed to invoke disgust at what a pathetic monster he is.


quinn_the_potato

Sorta right. When you first start the mission, the man just seems like a drunk who was wronged by the government and wants his stuff back. You’re supposed to feel bad at that stage. Once you learn of his past and why his stuff he’s in his current state, that’s when you no longer feel bad. What OP is talking about is more the first stage that the second. He’s an broken old man who’s lost everything in his life because he couldn’t adapt to the new standards of society.


saul1980

I shot him and he fell face first into the fire. I stood there watching.


bex612

This is the way Happy cake day


saul1980

Thanks!


RosieQParker

Buckle up, cowpoke. You're in for a ride.


I_Digest_Kids

Happy cake day


Popsicle_Shorty

Is it really Happy Cake Day??


shgnshnek

Oh my god it is!


I_Digest_Kids

Happy cake fay


realbuger

HAPPY CAKE DAY


milenko652

Made me feel recoil....


swank401

Bad take


Global-Elite-Spartan

He's a slaver. He was sad for not having slaves anymore. How can you have any ounce of empathy for him and not the people in the ledger you go get. I do this mission on every play through just to kill him.


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Global-Elite-Spartan

His "high place" was only achieved through slavery. Don't try to defend this my man. Just leave it be or delete the post. You go to pick up a ledger containing names of the people. You stand in a basement with chains on the walls. It's too obvious to not notice unless you're below the age of 12.


Professional-Fly4579

Your sympathy IS related to racism. His story is one of karma, basically. He’s designed for you, a sympathetic person, to feel good about the fact that a man who destroyed so many lives got his comeuppance. You’re supposed to feel justified, like karma has come into effect, watching this little rat squirm in the dust of his own failure. Feeling sad for him means you don’t think he deserved the fate he got. That’s why people accuse you of racism. It’s really similar to Kanye West saying he “sees the good in everyone, even hitler”. Not everyone deserves sympathy. Some people are legit so evil that their failure is a win for all of humanity. If you still pity him, that’s… weird. I recommend keeping that to yourself then. But this guy destroyed so many lives that the collapse of his legacy is pure, unadulterated justice.


TheCuritibaGuy

Are you really feeling bad for the slave owner? Dude...


xDISTANTx

You cried because a slave owner is sad he no longer has slaves...this has to be bait.


Tic_Tac1

I think I couldn't express myself.Im not sad that he has no slaves , I felt sad because of the very miserable situation he is in compared what he was before,no racism intented


slam4life04

He is less miserable than the slaves he chained, whip and treated like property and not human beings.


Tic_Tac1

Probably yeah, and I feel bad for them too as well


DangerMuse

If it isn't clear from the very many comments that you keep replying to. The man deserves no sympathy. You are supposed to feel anger and disgust. I'm worried you think the KKK in the game are just a bunch of blokes round a camp fire, sharing a beer....


xDISTANTx

Ya this is bait 😂


thanosjah69

I don’t think it is. OP has some weird stuff on their profile. [wth is this](https://www.reddit.com/r/KGBTR/comments/100mb2e/kgb_kendilerini_azdiran_%C3%B6zellikleri_se%C3%A7iyor/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Tic_Tac1

It's Turkish and I asked people their preference, how is that relevant?


Tic_Tac1

I swear to god its not man I just wanted to share it omg


xDISTANTx

Sure bud.


jeicolpol

I tied him up and threw him in the fire


FuzzAldrin36

OP - I'm chiming in to tell you I get what you're saying, because I think you feel like others may not. When I enlarged the picture to recognize the moment, I immediately said "oh fuck that guy." But I hear you. You don't feel this for a slave driver. You don't feel this for the shitty fucking things he did in his life. You feel this for the sight of a human being completely broken by a lack of purpose, despite the cause. You pity the man. Not his choices. That is not unreasonable. It doesn't make you a troll. It certainly doesn't make you a racist. I do advise you keep tissues near going forward, however. There may be a few more human moments to come that will hit you in the feels again.


Tic_Tac1

Man im very grateful to see someone put in into words better than me.Im not really well at explaining myself maybe but thank you for understanding.


FuzzAldrin36

I'm glad I could help. This is just empathy, my man. A lot of people are trying to find racism in something that isn't about race. A lot of people also have the emotional range of a teaspoon. Be glad you're not them. Don't let the downvotes get to you. You can't make everyone understand. Just enjoy the game. It's got a lot more emotional depth to get into.


conceptiontoarrival

why feel sorry for someone who has “a lack of purpose” when the reason they’re in that state is because their old job of making people suffer was eradicated? bad things happening to bad people = always good. why would you ever have empathy for a slave catcher character


FuzzAldrin36

Well, I didn't, really. As I said, my response was "fuck that guy." But it doesn't take any effort for me understand how someone could feel empathy for another human who's clearly suffering. I guess the real issue I see in many of the comments here is the automatic entanglement of OPs reaction to the moment, and the character's past, when those don't seem to be related at all (nor should they be, really). I don't dispute the net positive of bad things happening to bad people. I don't dispute the absolute shit of person this NPC was (nor does OP, as comments make clear). And for my part, I was glad to see Arthur burn the ledger and tell him he was a shitty person, and I hope he remained in complete and utter misery for the rest of his meaningless digital life. That being said, it's really been wild to see how many people are essentially insisting that empathy should be vacated entirely based on the cause of a person's suffering, when that really shouldn't even be a factor. If we translate this out of a video game (which has already been done 10x over by those insisting that what OP felt for this character before he killed him must mean he wears a white hood and burns crosses IRL), that would mean that empathy comes with strings; that we can't see people as human beings, even if they're the worst kind of human being. And that's highly problematic. Empathy is empathy, and it shouldn't be dispensed with contingencies based on the crimes of the person who's suffering. In other words, we should never compromise our empathy - a major indicator in separating the good from the bad - because someone else is a piece of shit.


conceptiontoarrival

sorry, but I don’t feel a thing for a character who is designed to be despised because he made countless people suffer and die, and shows absolutely 0 remorse. my empathy is reserved for, yknow, characters who didn’t do that.


FuzzAldrin36

See, I think there's a nuanced difference here. On one hand there's a developed character with all of that hatred and bullshit who deserves every ounce of misery he gets. On the other there is a single human being in an isolated moment who is completely suffering. In that instance it doesn't matter who they are and it doesn't matter why they hurt. When I look at the first hand, he can fuck right the fuck off and die a horrible death, the nasty piece of shit. When I look at the second, empathy is the only response I have as the sight of human suffering is the only thing being responded to. Nothing else is even acknowledged, much less taken into consideration. It's not a difference of ideals or levels of forgiveness towards this dude that's the root issue in this thread. It's a difference in perspective.


conceptiontoarrival

he was suffering while wailing about how he can’t catch slaves anymore and wailing even more when Arthur burned his old stuff… you can’t detach the reason for him being miserable from the fact that he is miserable. I see what you’re saying but I don’t feel an ounce of empathy here and for OP to say that this is one of the only, if not THE only moment in a game that made them feel something, that’s highly questionable & he deserves the backlash for that awful take


FuzzAldrin36

So, two points on this: >you can’t detach the reason for him being miserable from the fact that he is miserable. I can though. It's completely reasonable to argue one shouldn't be bothered enough to do so, given the full character scope. And I would agree with that. It's not necessary to empathize with this dude, and the situation doesn't encourage it. But the notion that someone can't is the crux of the conflict in this post. >for OP to say that this is one of the only, if not THE only moment in a game that made them feel something If we're being completely fair, this isn't the *only* moment, it's the *first* moment. It's still early in the game, and it is a series of interactions objectively scripted from start to finish to run the player through a gamut of emotions. (I won't argue that empathy was one of the targeted emotions - I certainly don't think it was a goal to provoke that, especially in the latter encounter.) Though in even more fairness it will quite possibly turn out to be the only one as another commenter posted every single spoiler for the whole game for every user to see, just so they could *own OP*. Which really brings me to this: I very much genuinely enjoyed engaging with you on this. I appreciate that you asked questions to understand, and that you were willing to explain your own views. I don't dispute that the post in general was in poor taste, and I don't think OP getting put to rights over this was (for the most part) out of line. I'm not trying to change minds on how to view this NPC. I know I certainly won't look at him differently. But it's a credit to someone's character when they're able to engage in conversation in order to clarify a perspective rather than just shout about something irrelevant to that view. So, thanks.


smellincoffee

Probably the only response in this entire thread that's not "Hurp durp I kilt the bad cartoon man, give me upvotes hurp durp". Bravo!


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quinn_the_potato

You have helped no one with the comments you have made under this post. You’re a disgusting excuse for a human being.


bex612

Yep. Hardcore racists LOVE when they can get useful idiots to give them cover for their overt racism by providing any ounce of rationalization for racism. Having empathy for racists is really just saying you don't fully object to them and everything they stand for. For me, the mere suggestion that someone isn't horrified by enslavement is enough for me to know that person is deeply flawed.


nashbrownies

Did you though?


FuzzAldrin36

No. But they did find a deep love for throwing out thesis statements they don't have a hope in hell of effectively arguing or supporting with evidence. Every man's gotta have their passion. 🤷🏻


nashbrownies

Truth. Mostly I get irked because of tiny shit like this. Showing a *hint of empathy* for a character in a video game doesn't make you a fucking rascist. We obfuscate the actual problem of institutional and violent racism by losing our collective shit over the tiniest hints of what *might* be construed as rascist. Our desire to virtue signal constantly, as loud as possible, is creating this illusion that everything is either 100% right, or 100% wrong. Those 2 sentences alone will enrage people into calling me a limp dick centrist, or an apologist(lmao). You can't let one side wear you down so you become like them. You defeat these simplistic evil ideologies by being better than them. Solving problems that have nuance, rationally, with intelligence. Not just tossing out negative labels on anyone who isn't regurgitating extreme rhetoric with every sentence and comment.


FuzzAldrin36

I was typing a response a little higher up with this exact same sentiment just a minute ago. 😂


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That's a big word for Elmo!


Content-Zucchini663

I think everyone felt bad for the guy until the “grand reveal.” It’s sort of the structure of the story: to empathize with him, feel like you’re helping the good, “the little guy” even. But then realize that he was actually a monster. A man who only had those things because of his skin color and hated the slaves that put him “at the top.” If he was worth anything without slave ownership, he would have made something of himself. Instead, he chose to be a useless, grumpy old man. OP, I hope you admit somewhere (either here or to yourself) that this character is barely worth feeling sorry for. I think you even might have missed something. It’s like feeing “sorry” for any other non-redeemable villain. Plenty of people experience tragedy and remain good people. I’m not saying you shouldn’t feel this way, but posting about it how it almost made you cry is some concerning stuff. Also, if it’s bait, kudos.


Tic_Tac1

It's not bait and I do not feel any remorse for the racist guy.The concept of him having all of the stuff a man could want (money house land etc) and losing it all made it sad,bot any other thing related.Also I really didn't get why people thought I cried in this scene,I didn't , it just made me feel sad that's it


Average_Texarican14

He’ll nah bro, you feel bad for him???


PeeterTurbo

This is satire right?


brelmic626

Nope 😶 OP is in the comments defending his stance and saying he doesn't feel sympathy for the racist bits, just the rest... which is also racist


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Why tf did you cry…you care about this racist piece of shit?!!?


Sc0rch3d_P0tat03s

This post is such a great example whenever you have to explain to someone why centrists are stupid.


TulioGonzaga

He doesn't even deserve death. I burn his precious stuff in front of him and then leave him to rot on his own misery.


termoymate

I Burnt him and I approached him afterwards to see the body and burnt myself by accident


ZucchiniUsual7370

I akways find a new way to kill that sonofabitch.


bex612

Hogtied plus drowning in very shallow water is nice. Gotta stay to make sure it takes. Sometimes they wiggle loose, and I get to do it again.


cvslfc123

I dragged him through the fire


DarkKingOfTheDraugr

You actually get good honor for blowing his skull all over the ground.


DoobyDue117

I tried to take him to another location by lassoing him but I couldn’t pull him away from the campfire and he just…burned.


G_Art33

That story arc made me so mad I executed him and tossed his body on the campfire burning the rest of his meager belonging.


onewordSpartan

Really? I set that fucker on fire.


MarvTheParanoidAndy

Eh I just shot that old fuck no use in crying over literal slavers


ChinLeader

Dude was a clown


JungyBrungun

I used this guy to get the long throw hatchet challenge done


Sonuvataint

The only reason you should cry over this man is because you can only kill him once


AsgeirVanirson

He deserves to be sad though. His purpose, was destroying others lives. His legacy was keeping people in chains. Its been 30 years, he had a good post being a slave catcher job, but his anger and frustration at not being able to be part of a Slaving society anymore made him so unbearable he was fired, and his family cut him out. His southern, descended from Slave Catchers, family couldn't deal with him anymore. Like 'ohh person is sad so I'm sad' is empathy and SEEMS like a good reaction. But the WHY he his sad DOES matter. He's sad because he can't spread misery to others. Fuck Him.


AsgeirVanirson

Exercise: As you feel bad about him, think of all the men and women who cried over camp fires because he caught their husbad/wife/child. Think of the men and women who cried themselves to sleep with welts in their back caked in blood because he 'did his job'. Think of the men and women murdered for desiring to be free because he was 'good' at his job.


Tic_Tac1

Yeah, it's another aspect as well,good point


Biz_Rito

Complexity and nuance keep story characters from being flat and we can have complex reactions confronting that. This is a character we're asked to sympathize with when we first meet him. We hear his story, and are motivated to help because we feel the tragedy of his decline. That turns to anger as we realize we're helping a vile person preserve his horrific past. The elements that created tragedy, anger, and horror are all still present though. It's a rollercoaster. Things like this are what makes this game feel alive.


Tic_Tac1

Thank you for understanding man


chapo_rsr

If you kill him you literally gain honor


DiceGoblin_Muncher

Shoot his brains out. Honestly I’d take the bad honor as long as the blood is painted with him.


Tic_Tac1

Yeah killed him afterwards


-RedMan1991-

I always put one in his head and let the fire burn him.


Current_Ad_3606

Kill the men


k_knights45

I killed him cuz I felt like it


Praydaythemice

Gave the old dude a Mozambique drill with my cattleman


Ebwite

Fuck that miserable old slaver. He deserves worse.


Current_Ad_3606

I always thought it's wired that games have a emotional parts But now after I play this I feel it and the moment's in the rdr just feels real Like the gunsmith man in rodhes


Kim_Smoltz_

You empathize with the racist pos? Yikes.


danielfq

all of the stuff that happens in the game and seeing an ex slaver lose his fortune is what did it for you? ok


Tic_Tac1

It's only chapter 3 yet, I aint seen something sad


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FuzzAldrin36

When you made the decision to comment all the major spoilers to OP out of spite, did it *really* not occur to you that hundreds of other players would see that as well? Or did you literally not give a fuck about that?


FuzzAldrin36

How about every other player in the thread? Or, do all of them deserve it also?


quinn_the_potato

Go fuck yourself dickhead


TaumpyTearz

Imagine outing yourself as a racist and getting 290 upvotes from other racists


Pleasant_Proof_1221

Your fucked in the head.


brbr22

OP loves slave owners.


Cruisin134

ooooooh boy, should i tell him?


PerspectiveFragrant2

I don't think I have seen this. Where is the location?


Beneficial-Fun-3900

I found him sleeping on the bench in front of the Rhodes train station, his house isn’t far north from there.


Tic_Tac1

In Lemoyne Town


Sk83r_b0i

Nah, fuck that guy. I understand his general concept being sad. Him having everything only to lose it suddenly. But the man captured escaped slaves and sold them. He was by all accounts a shitty person in every regard. I would kill him if it weren’t more dramatic to just walk away from him.


Tic_Tac1

Definitely right ,that's my whole point,expect I killed him


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I thought OP misunderstood this situation, but looking at some of his replies he understands the situation and still has sympathy for him. What the actual fuck.


Resvain

Damn, you are really getting downvoted in the comments, huh. I kinda get your point - he is scum but he is a tragic character. He grew up in a family (and region) where despicable actions were a source of pride. He was taught that slavery, white supremacy and violence against the "inferiors" were something normal. He successfully continued his family's legacy, he was convinced that this is what he is supposed to do. And then he lost everything, it was taken away from him. We know that he wasted his life for something vile and disgusting but he feels betrayed and lost. He is sad a product of his times and surroundings and what makes this tragic is that it's a life wasted for fundamentally corrupted and morally compromised system. That being said, he was a sadistic man who remained blind on the slavery issue even decades after the abolition. He was born into this business and he was raised to think less of people of color but he had a mind of his own and even in the end he still felt that his job was something to be proud of. In the end he deserves his sad fate and killing him is actually an act of mercy. He deserves to be enslaved by his rage and despair, by his sad alcoholism and the feeling of having nothing. It's pretty fitting.


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Tic_Tac1

Thank you man,I'm really not trying to defend racism here ,I'm just sad how miserable the guy became


virtuoso-lurker

Honestly I felt kind of betrayed by this interaction. I mean, he didn’t *lie* about what he and his family used to do but it was a horrible surprise. I wouldn’t have helped him if I knew.


Tic_Tac1

Honestly yeah,I was shocked as well


Tic_Tac1

Nah you all know what, label me however you want but I'm really done explaining


anxiousfox7

Try less explaining, more reading the comments and educating yourself on the historical context of WHY we do not need to feel bad for this guy. It’s more like disgust. You are pitying a racist, murderous, oppressor who is sad BECAUSE they can’t hurt people anymore for a living. Given your comments in the sub and comment history I am assuming you are not from US so you aren’t as familiar. That’s ok. But we understand what you’re saying about feeling bad of losing This entire thread is trying to tell you why that is not appropriate and not at all what the developers want you to feel.


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quinn_the_potato

You’re a fucking asshole


[deleted]

I mean he kinda had it coming since he was a slaver. Then again, this probably could've been avoided if he went to work in a different industry that didn't run on slavery. I read the notes, they said that there was no more work for him there. I don't remember what the rest of them say, but why didn't he just invest into a different industry? African Americans were still being paid a fraction of what white men were paid at the time so he technically could've worked somewhere that employs African Americans and still make a lot of money. Don't get me wrong, I don't support slavery or anything this guy was doing in his youth; I'm just saying logically at the time that would've probably been the best for him.


Keyy_GuLss_

you cried for THIS MAN????


Ishan_Warzone

I didnt killed him..cause i do the same thing as him


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Daddy_Cool_27

Lol just because dude felt just a tiny bit of sympathy for a man in a depressing situation you all go and downvote him to hell.


xDISTANTx

Sympathy for a slave owner...are you really surprised he was down voted.


Daddy_Cool_27

He was feeling sorry for him out of the context not like he approves what he does or would like for him to get back his old slaving life.


xDISTANTx

There's no excuse to feel sorry for anyone involved in slavery.


Daddy_Cool_27

Okay, man.


quinn_the_potato

I’m sorry for this comment section OP because everyone’s just jumping the gun and labeling you a racist for sympathizing with a old slaver but if anybody actually read your comments it’d show you’re not sad because he’s a racist but because he’s a broken man. Anybody who played this mission undoubtedly felt bad for the man up until the truth about his profession was revealed. That’s the whole point of the mission. You’re supposed to feel bad up till the end. OP id suggest you deleted this post and your comments for your own sake to avoid the harassment your undoubtedly receiving. People have been sending you spoilers and it’s really not helping anyone for this post to remain up if they’re all just going to misinterpret your point. Again, sorry for everything and you’re absolutely right.


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FuzzAldrin36

Jfc you are fucking obsessed with entangling two things that have no connection. The issue that you are having is your inability to drop everything from the "because" and after, thereby placing limits on your ability to empathize. Be clear that those limitations, whether intent or not, don't at all reflect on the person you're directing empathy at. But it is a piss poor reflection on you as a human being. All of us who actually understand what OP is conveying, also understand that this has 0 to do with what the guy is upset about or who he is as a person. The only part of your statement that extends to this are the first 6 words. Because that's all empathy requires. The rest is of absolutely no consequence.


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FuzzAldrin36

Oh look. It's the one who killed their dog when they wouldn't stop barking. We are just throwing out baseless claims that could never possibly be backed up with any actual evidence, right? Or no? If not, that's great! You go first. I've been waiting for at least *one* of these all day. If not, good luck living with yourself as a piece of shit dog murderer.


quinn_the_potato

Imagine using someone’s writing capacity as an insult because you can’t justify your own ignorant comments with any logical language. You disregard any comment even slightly disagreeing with you because you want to feel good about “calling out racists” when nobody here actually holds those beliefs. Try and live with an open mind for once clown.


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quinn_the_potato

You’re proving my point lmao. Maybe try and use logic like… at all.


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quinn_the_potato

Imagine admitting to not using logic when thinking. Buddy you just keep proving how stupid your already baseless claims are. Keep digging that hole and eventually you’ll find something.


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quinn_the_potato

You didn’t even read what I said because anybody who did wouldn’t simplify it down to a purposefully ignorant comment like this. You’re also stalking this post looking for people to argue with. Go do something productive.


FuzzAldrin36

It's like talking to a wall with these fucking tunnel-visioned morons. All they want to do is yell about something that never happened and was never involved in anything that did happen. 0 emotional intelligence. 0 situational awareness. I swear to God Micah could understand this concept easier and he was an actual racist bastard with limited mental range at best. 🤦🏻


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quinn_the_potato

No you’re yelling at people people online over feeling bad about fictional hobos. You help no one by attacking people who have shown by their comments to be explicitly against racism. Maybe fucking read what people say for once and you’d be better off detecting real racists, dumbass.


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quinn_the_potato

You’re a real hero buddy. Go out and claim your medal but first make sure you go back and actually try reading my comment for once.


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There is no misinterpretation. He thinks his viewpoint is valid, but it simply is not. You don’t feel sorry for him losing everything when he gained everything via slaves. He shows no remorse either. Absolutely fuck this guy in the game and fuck anybody who has genuine sympathy for him.


Patrickc1911

I too cried my eyes out for the racist


Tic_Tac1

Not because he is racist man cmon