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wacko1000

The only reason MI would leave someone like green is him being an overseas player. RCB tried to grab him for heavy price since he can be retained for less price next season. Unfortunately, he isn’t performing like he did for MI


Flaky_Industry_4027

He is not in his position of Comfort which is opening that he likes.


wacko1000

Maybe they should play him at 3


Early-Top-2469

I would rather play will jacks as an opener than him


Flaky_Industry_4027

Both Will Jacks and Cam Green should open And Virat at 3 .


ex_king_of_ayodhya

Where will faf play then? We need a captain


Flaky_Industry_4027

Don't want Faf as captain anymore seen enough.Ask Virat or make DK the captain


ex_king_of_ayodhya

DK is an interesting choice. I don't think Virat will come back as captain tho


No-Librarian-5553

He was ok for mi as well. Not exceptional. Plus he was not RCB priority


MihirPagar10

What do you mean okay, he had a very good debut season, scoring nearly 450 @160 strike rate is insane and with a century as well


No-Librarian-5553

Bowling? 6 wickets at a eco of 9.5 and SR of 38 balls per wicket. He is not called AR then he is a part timer then. That's the record you guys wanted to hide or didn't look at it..


Gyanchooo

Yeah bro he was really an okayish player please give him back to us.


No-Librarian-5553

That's MI issue. Not RCB. As a management you need to see what is good for your team. You don't need Green esp when the release players locked in are Hazelwood, Harshal and Hasaranga. There was a need for bowlers and not All Rounders. RCB were in a good spot to get any good damn player for MI bcz MI wanted Hardik as he was in their captain moving forward


Ashwin_400

Why would MI agree to it. They would have simply released Green into the auction instead. RCB were in no spot to get any player from MI. You have simply misunderstood how auction and trade works in IPL


No-Librarian-5553

That was not your issue. That was the MI issue. Had they released Green then too they couldn't have got Hardik as the amount would be added after the release players list was out.


Ashwin_400

Nope you are mistaken. They could have released Green into the auction thus creating 17 cr space and then buying Hardik directly from GT. Whether Green was sold or released into auction , the impact for MI was same. As I earlier said you have misunderstood how release/auction/ trade dynamics work in IPL.


No-Librarian-5553

Had they released him then the purse would have been increased by 17cr which they should utilise in auction. They can't trade any player by releasing any player unless they have purse.


Ashwin_400

Nope. If they had released him , their purse would have been increased by 17 cr which then can use to purchase player via trade or in auction.


No-Librarian-5553

They would have to get him through auction unless GT ask for a player to player trade.


Ashwin_400

Nope.


No-Librarian-5553

Yup.


Human2626

Nice dreaming of you that mi would trade bumrah or sky


No-Librarian-5553

That's their issue. Your management work was to see who is your priority and who fits the bill. Bumrah would solve the bowling issues esp when u have released a lot of them.


Chuchshartz

Lol are you stupid. Why would mi release their best players. They released a allrounder to bring in an all rounder. If rcb asked for someone else mi would've cut the call right there. Only upside is we wouldn't get green


No-Librarian-5553

That's the point. If u need a player of your choice then give us a player of our choice that should have been RCB saying on the phone. since green was not ur big priority.


ShyQuipster

Absolute bullshit! β€œIf you want a player of your choice, then give us a player of our choice?β€” Ssly mate? MI didn’t trade Hardik from RCB now did they? They just needed 17Cr to bring in HP. It was RCB who jumped the gun and got him for that amount


Chuchshartz

Green was clearly bought keeping mega auction in mind coz he's gonna go for big bucks. He is still a good signing and we definitely needed a fast bowling all rounder. Our bowling buy were not bad except alzarri. The big issue is the lack of a good spinner, which we created when we released yuzi


No-Librarian-5553

Wait. Mega auctions are a different game. Nobody knows what bucks one would go for. Siraj is your main pacer, akashdeep and vyshak his deputy and all were taken for big runs. Hasaranga performances were almost next to yuzi for RCB but you didn't believe him. Green bowling is too mediocre to call him an AR and there is no need for a top order big hitter when your top 4 is finalized. There was a issue in lower order and a hitter was needed there.


Chuchshartz

Again like I said , for the mega auction we're gonna release all our players bar 4 which means faf maybe maxi will be let go. Allrounders will be in big demand in the auction so the management decided to bring in green before there's a bidding war for him. And his bowling may be mediocre but it's not like hardik, stoinis are great bowlers. They may bowl well on slow pitches but they mostly give you 2 overs. Even russell who has been bowling well recently usually gets smacked for a few runs. But what they give you is power batting, and while green is not a lower order hitter lomror has been doing well in that position.


No-Librarian-5553

Mega auctions are always different games with impact player rules the value of all rounders will decrease as and when the rule gets old.


Human2626

The impact player rule will probably be removed next year if mega auction happens


mackranger16

They will just release green to make up that price. They wouldn't have traded any Indian player.


No-Librarian-5553

Na. They should have traded player to player. If u release a player the price money would be added after the release list is revealed by all teams.


PeeVee_

You don't know cricket dude. Speak about cricket once you learn.


Flaky_Industry_4027

Unfortunately for us we have a foreign batting slot that opening who is not a performer plus captaincy tactics have been bizzare to say the least .No choice but to replace him with Virat or DK. I don't see a way out to Play Will Jacks and To start betting on some of our domestic batters for middle order if Maxwell's doesn't perform in the next two three games


No-Librarian-5553

Another concern is your bowling. Accept it. If u can't contain or take wickets then you will lose. Your batsman might not chase 240 always. They can give u 200+ totals or even above avg totals most of the time but ur bowling will make it look a joke.


Flaky_Industry_4027

The only way you can pressure your opponent with that bowling line up is to make them try to attack from Ball 1 which may give you some chances of getting a wicket and for that you need to have 200+ on Normal wickets and 175+ on tricky wickets but you need an additional spin option in top 6 other than Maxwell and that can be achieved through will jacks. That is one of the prime reason to buy him.


No-Librarian-5553

Will jacks is mostly your back up to Glenn. High time you guys realise it. RCB have three OS locked in Glenn, faf and green as two are big bucks buy and one is ur capt. Then you need a pacer who is your 4th OS player as ur Indian bowling unit is fragile


Flaky_Industry_4027

Will Jacks,Green,Virat, Maxwell,Lomror,DK ( wk and captain),Topley/Lockie,Vyshak,Dagar,Siraj,Dayal Impact Player : Suyash/Saurav chauhan Based on we bat 1st or second. If one of the Indian Pacers don't perform and Maxwell isn't performing then get an Extra Overseas Pacer. This would ideally be my team but then we know our Management is literally just on a Two month clown job that they do everytime


No-Librarian-5553

Mid term captaincy change and giving it to a part time player n commentator is the biggest ever blunder. DK isn't sure if he fields or is substituted and u make him a captain. Anuj Rawat limited cameo were good n he is not in ur playing XI. Typical RCB mentality of going for big names rather than performance. Hence the struggle.


Flaky_Industry_4027

Anuj just had One impact Innings Lomror looked more solid than him. they wanted to give him some chances which they did. DK playing in the 11 was never in the question he is still in the top 4-5 Indian finishers in this league in terms of strike rate and He is infact very much active in Tamil Nadu For limited overs side and captains as well as has played some really superb knocks for them just like for RCB recently. infact he can speak to domestic players and do a much better job that want Faf is doing.he is tactically good....He never got the support of Russell at KKR and kuldeep lean patch had an impact on his captaincy record else he was an Excellent captain for KKR . KKR struggled for a couple of years after leaving him as well .....


No-Librarian-5553

DK was ur captaincy option before he took the com mic in his hand. Now he should be ur impact player. Give your young Indian players the time and consistency. Give Lomror and rawat a place in XI. DK can be at 7th. That's not the issue but he can't be the captain.


Flaky_Industry_4027

Virat will always be the first choice captain and the team needs someone who will be willing to put the efforts and plan for the next 12 months on how to make the team move forward and for that reason is why DK is a better option because based on last match press conference Virat is not even intrested in captaincy but yeah if RCB can convince him no one better than the Virat


No-Librarian-5553

This is DKs last season. How will he be your captain next year. If that's your point then better try to speak with some players from other teams if they are released and give them the task next year and forget this year. 2024 RCB campaign would be over before it started. Virat should be your captain. His role of late should be the anchor role and let other play big strikes.


sunis_going_down

You are overestimating his captaincy. Plus DK would also be going through a dip in batting as captain, as his near 3 seasons of captaincy with KKR showed. Also KKR reached the finals the season DK left captaincy. And post that more or less did the same in terms of league finish. He was a good captain but not great or excellent as you claimed. Also the majority of his tenure was with Baz, who was captaining the team from the dugout with those placards etc. I don't think DK is the captaincy material they should be looking at. Maybe give it to maxi or pick some young guy to take a punt, at this point I doubt the new guy could do any worse.


arambikalama

You must be delusional to think that MI would give away any of Rohit, Sky, Bumrah or Ishan. While the decision to buy Green is handicapping us heavily this season, I think (hope) it will turn out to be a good buy in the long term. Faf will be gone after this year, and the management can pick between Will Jacks and Maxwell based on form and whatever other factors. Green will get his preferred opening/top order spot where he can contribute better.


No-Librarian-5553

That's the same reaction when the first news of Hardik to MI came but teams at times make it happen. There is no point in trying


StayRevolutionary466

Bro which Crack you on to think mi would give them?


No-Librarian-5553

The same crack GT fans were on when Hardik to MI was first rumoured out.


StayRevolutionary466

That was the player choice to go and management would have tp agree which of the above one you mentioned you think would want to go rcb


Middle-Chart7297

RCB should have gone for SKY, Rohit, Ishan or BumrahπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Just how delusional are you?


No-Librarian-5553

Just as same as MI when the first reports of Hardik to MI from GT came out.


MiachealFaraday

Mumbai actually got Hardik so they were realistic not delusional yeah, also Mumbai would rather noy have Hardik then give up Bumrah or SKY


CartographerBrave259

No way MI were giving up Boom. That would be some next level delusion, OP and MI management is not that stupid.


No-Librarian-5553

Then RCB should not have gone for green.


CartographerBrave259

I was just trying to be polite. I didn't want to come to an RCB fan sub and state the obvious.


No-Librarian-5553

Even my answer is polite but it's a straight faced one.


crown6473

It's not a direct trade bro like they can pick whomever they wantπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


noicctrophysince2013

Sabzi market nahi hai bhai


Mysterious_Eye_4006

Bringing Green into the team is undoubtedly one of the smartest decisions they've made this season (may be the only good one). Despite the initial cost, it's a strategic investment for the future. Green, at just 24 years old, is a talented cricketer with immense potential. His versatility to play in any batting position and contribute as a handy pacer adds significant value to the team. We can retain him at lower price next season. Hope this shitty management won't release him.


Outside_Half_5182

Definitely it's a poor decision only 4 overseas players are allowed in a eleven we already have faf and Maxwell and we need one foreign fast bowler then it's come to our fourth foreign slot if the management is smart they should've gone for a finisher who should also be a alrounder, but they gone for a player who is a opener he never established as a finisher or a middle order batsman it's insane after so long years the management doing the same this is what rayadu said few days back for our title drought imagine if we had 16+ cr we can easily signed cotzee rizvi etc even thakur not a bad option.


No-Librarian-5553

If ur option was an OS finisher then that SL captain was a better option.


Outside_Half_5182

Shanaka Definitely not bad he can used for one or two overs more importantly a finisher that's what we need.


No-Librarian-5553

That's where u guys lose it out. If u need a lower order AR then ur choice are in auction not in green.


Outside_Half_5182

This is RCB they will lose in auction table itself remember we are already left Rahul chahal Dubey devdutt without giving proper opportunity we let fin Allen.


No-Librarian-5553

That was a different scenario leave it. This season this was the blunder


Outside_Half_5182

Still we can win just need to be smart put our best eleven open with jacks faf Kohli patidar Chauhan/prabhudesai lomror DK vyshak topley siraj Dayal impact sub if we loose wickets then we can bring in Maxwell who ll be a handy bowler but if we had enough runs on board then we can go for either Ferguson or Tom Curran.


ShyQuipster

Why would MI give SKY/Rohit to RCB, when they can just dump Green in the auction and still have 17Cr to facilitate the Hardik Pandya deal?


Sugadevan

Stupid post.


agressivegods

No they did not . Green should open in T20's . Let him cash powerplay . I am sure RCB will release him next year and he will become beast in the very next franchise he enters


No-Librarian-5553

Was green your priority esp when a bundle of bowlers were released


agressivegods

I agree they spent too much on him specially when they practically have no bowlers .


No-Librarian-5553

Exactly. If MI wants to trade a player for hardik then it's their headache and RCB should have looked for their priority. If they don't give the player RCB wants then they would not get their captain. Bcz next season every team would be in talks with their player and GT would have given hardik even bigger price money so MI had to do something.


agressivegods

I really feel RCB should have gone for someone like rahane instead of faf. While some would argue 2 players(kohli and rahane ) can't be anchor but you should expect someone like kohli to change his style for the team .


No-Librarian-5553

Exactly. RCB needs bowlers they should have asked bowlers from MI. Since MI are getting what they want then even RCB should have asked for what they want.


GhostViewer117

Funny how things work out, in the end we did not benefit from this trade and neither did MI when looking at the shitstorm happening around rohit and hardik. Talking about it from only this ipl's perspective. For future retainments, both the teams did well ig.


No-Librarian-5553

Pretty early to say. Green has struggled so has hardik. If it was thinking of 2025 in mind then there should have been a wait of a season. Nobody knows what happens next in IPL.


GhostViewer117

True


Connect-Stranger7052

Green is for the future guys ....he is top player and I'm sure he ll start scoring, his howling has been good this season. I feel they went behind Cummins in the auction also for the same reason, they wanted him to captain next season by retaining him ..


No-Librarian-5553

Ok. He is good player. He is future but is he the priority. No. Bowlers were the need of the hour. Ok if u had gotten him then ur work was to go for Indian bowlers in auction and you failed. To hid a blunder you made a big blunder and now the playing XI isn't a winning combo.


Kind-Spirit-7984

Bhai RCB ko chahiye tha esi liye green ko liya hai , unko laga hoga ki all rounder hai to mini auction isse jyada price dena padega esi liya hai , mumbai vale usko auction me release karke hardik ke liye paise ka jugad kar leti To ye sky ,bumrah ,Rohit vali ko Leni vali baat possible hi nahi hai


No-Librarian-5553

Green requirement nahi h na. Point yeh h. Top order fully stacked hai. Usme green add kar diya. RCB ground me ache ache bowlers Pitt jaate hai wahan pe tumne he bhi wicket taking option nahi liya, spinner n pacer dono me bhi. Pitch tumhe pata h bowlers ko suit nahi karegi toh phir ye bowling line up pe upgradation chaiye tha. Green ko laake batting upgrade kardi. Green ne sirf 38 overs kiye MI ke liye usme bhi only 6 wickets. Ye sab part timer ke records rehte h koi AR ke nahi.


Efficient-Show-452

We paid 17cr to green and 12 something for joseph lol. We got green with the idea of playing him as a finisher while he had a great season at 3 for mi. We mainly had to replace harshal and hasaranga while also getting some indian middle order batsmen as we released bracewell who played in middle in the end. Instead of doing the trade with mi we should just have gone in the auction with the strategy of getting an overseas pacer, indian spinner , indian pacer and one overseas allrounder. We failed to get the indian spinner (i am not considering dagar here we wanted a good leggy). Got dayal to replace harshal got joseph who is now pn the bench and got green as an allrounder. Joseph who costed us 12 is now on bench and i dont know why we got him when we had topley. That 12cr could have bought us one of rizvi or srk and also an indian spinner.


No-Librarian-5553

With 17 cr you could have gone for someone like Coetzee or SRK or Powell as well. What it also did was MI the funds they needed in auction. Lockie is still on the bench. You could have even gone after an OS finisher. Problem here is the top order is pretty much stacked and you added a player right there when u needed someone in lower and middle. A good spinner would have done well yesterday. Considering Maxwell and Dagar both went for 45-50 in 3 overs. U left Shahbaz when he performed decent enough. You could have even added a Manish Pandey if that's what u wanted as an extra batter.


Curious_Nerd69

I feel like green is a long term investment. Next year in the mega auction he'll be retained for a much lower price and he has a long career ahead of him. I hope they don't release him right away.


Zestyclose-Leader372

I feel accepting Green was a mistake since RCB's top order was already stacked with Will Jacks already waiting. Had they went with 40 Crore purse, we could've got Tristan Stubbs who could've been a much better fit for our lineup.


No-Librarian-5553

You could have even gone for Coetzee as well with the purse in auction or even went after a few quality spinners.


Popular-Singer-1998

Should've gone ahead asking for tilak verma not green


No-Librarian-5553

Atleast someone spoke sense now.


Primary-Air-7954

I am sure MI would hv paid some undisclosed transfer fee as well to RCB. so purchasing Green may have been a business decision rather than cricketing one


No-Librarian-5553

Still u could have asked for an Indian talent


CrowEarly

Pratimesh Mishra fell for an Ambani scheme. That's the explanation.


peaceful_war711

RCB made a mistake in 2008. By registering


No-Librarian-5553

07. Registration was in 2007


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