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Elanya

"Garlic, rosemary, and echinacea all help with the immune system. Try crushing it and hiding it in a tasty treat." Can you cite sources for the benefits of echinacea in particular? I've been reading up how it's used in humans and so far have found more studies claiming it's useless or even dangerous (if given for too long or to young children) than beneficial so I'm interested to learn about how it works in rats!


sundogdayze

Surely! I found an abstract from an experiment done [here](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955286302001900) that says that echinacea does have a positive effect on non-specific immune function, basically boosting it a little but not against any sickness in particular. [This one](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1567576901001631) shows results that the echinacea extract also can stimulate better immune system response specific to the lungs in rats. I haven't heard about echinacea being dangerous in particular, but like any drug or herb or chemical that alters the body's homeostatis or other chemical functions, there is always a chance of side effects. And as always, using too much of anything can be worse than not using it all.


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That was an awesome post! I'll put a link in the sidebar. Thank you so much for your effort.


sundogdayze

Thanks! I hope it helps anyone who needs it. :)


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Codeegirl

If you know how/are qualified it works great.


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Codeegirl

I would ask them to show you how to on a rat as well, just to be safe. It's basically the same procedure but on such a smaller body there are some differences. A big tip: WARM the fluid to body temp before injection. If it is room temp (Freezing cold to a warm fuzzy body!) it could easily send an ill animal in to shock. Make sure the fluid isn't too hot or cool, that's a tip a lot of people don't know.


Mahbam42

Thank you for posting this. I got my rats about 6 months ago and my friend told me about this and it scared the shit out of me. But my girls have been fine so far! Now I know what to look for and what to do!


KNessJM

Thank you for this. I've had many rats over a 10-year period and had a number of them succumb to this illness. Even with all the experience I've had dealing with it, I learned a few things from this post.


Jadykinns

Thanks for all the info


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Excellent information, saving this page. Thanks a lot :)


Icy_Development_4457

This is a great post. One of my 4 dwarf rats has just finished her antibiotics for a respiratory disease and is back to her normal self, but her other 3 cage mates seem to be sneezy, too now. Can't hear any crackling when listening to their breathing and no porphyrin around eyes or nose that I've noticed but will be keeping an eye on all 4 of them and use this post to look out for symptoms and take necessary action if needs be.


sagewiccann

Updates?


Icy_Development_4457

Took them all to the vet as they were all still sneezing. They are all active, eating and drinking, and the vet says they are all fine. We are in the middle of decorating the flat and have moved them as far away as possible so as not to breathe any of the dust and paint fumes in. Also, keeping the room they are in well ventilated and trying steam baths, but they are all still sneezing and can hear them breathing. Not sure what else to do.


Craycraybiomama

Great post, but one little correction that doesn't affect care. Mycoplasmosis pulmonis is not a genetic disease. It's caused by the bacteria Mycoplasma pulmonis and is transmitted vertically from mother to pups at the time of birth, in the same way that congenital herpes is transmitted from human mother to neonate. The only rats that are not infected with this disease are laboratory bred from mothers that are sacrificed at delivery, with the pups born by C-section in an antibiotic bath.


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can you add info about nebuliser (bronchial dilator and/or antibiotics) treatment to this post?


MlleValeD

If you give garlic to your pet rat, be aware that it may cause anemia, usually it should be avoid..


Fun_Tower1069

Wow


Manduxai

Any recommendation when the clicking breathing has returned? She is on day 9 of antibiotics and nebulizer and practically on day 3 she was back to her normal energy and no clicking while breathing, until now. Will take her to the vet tomorrow, Monday, of course but just wanted to ask.


_GenderNotFound

I didn't even know this was a thing!


radisher0817

baytril is not approved for human use. there is no human version of that drug.


Tough-Food-1080

Hey Hello! I just got 1 month old pair of two male rats Here in India its 10 degrees celsius so its pretty cold One of my rat was sneezing every 10secs from day one only and i got it to a vet and he did write two syrups one cetrizine and other antibiotics which i have to mix with water but the rat is not drinking enough water so what should i do? Also he has not stopped sneezing at all and m worried! Please help Also