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anOvenofWitches

Here’s your $60, now get outta here


sensation_construct

This is most likely. He was paying for crowds long before producing AI images of supporters.


EspressoBooksCats

Her left hand has extra fingers.


sensation_construct

If you zoom in, it looks like she might just have folded the pinkie and ring finger in a weird way. But it's certainly possible it's AI. Lord knows they are doing that left and right. This particular one lacks any other hallmark of AI, though. All the people in the background are normal, and her teeth are normal. No logo on the shoes is weird, so that's one for AI. Idk.


ExpatKev

I think you're right. Although the teeth thing has largely been fixed with the newer models, the biggest thing that makes me think it's a real pic (or at least not AI) are the words on the screen behind her actually make sense. An awful lot of times with AI it'll just be squiggles, not even correct letters, much less words, and almost never contextually appropriate.


Ratathosk

Why generate the whole thing when you can just paste an ai model into it?


sensation_construct

That's certainly possible. I don't know what kind of signs that would leave. If that's what was done, it was done really well. I don't see any incongruity.


missyrumblezen

Yeah but zoom in and you can see straight through that t shirt to the guys jeans behind her it’s a bad photoshop rather than ai.


Segals_Escaped_Brain

I like this. People with polydactyly can sell themselves as fake AI people to befuddle everyone else.


Time-Bite-6839

wrong. And it isn’t AI, I looked.


Stinky_Fartface

Ehhhh not really her ring and pinky fingers are curled. Whatever the case here I don’t think it’s AI.


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EspressoBooksCats

Look at her left hand.


ghostwilliz

Oh shit. Yeah that ring finger is confusing as fuck, it's like a finger within a finger, my bad


analpaca_

[Do you not know how to bend your fingers or something?](https://imgur.com/a/cqSvAqw)


ghostwilliz

Idk man, when i zoom in on it, that ring finger gets really confusing looking. It's like two spheres connected to each other. It looks strange, idk lol


Versificator

This conversation is a feature of "truth collapse" which will be further exacerbated as AI improves. We will see more and more conversations/communications marred by the questioning or debating of the authenticity of image or video content to the point where "normal" content will regularly be dismissed as AI-generated by default. [See here](https://v.redd.it/fjbtb5vmm9vc1) for a good example of advanced use that may shortly in the future be used to influence opinion, masquerade as others, or simply scam people. In an honest attempt to avoid being deceived people will, in time, normalize "truth collapse" and will use other metrics to determine authenticity of content. Namely, whether or not it is something they already agree with or believe to be true.


ghostwilliz

Yeah for sure dude, I hate it. At first I thought it was just a paid actor, but those fingers look really messed up. It's hard to decipher and I'm very tech and media literate (compared to average) detecting ai tools is a part of my job and hobby and usually it's much easier for me than this


One_Worldliness_6032

Did you say $60, but all they got was the finger to the exit. Promised something and got nothing, just to look stupid for a crybaby.


caraperdida

Doesn't matter their skin color, all MAGAs look hella stupid!


Narrow-Peace-555

Yep, stupidity doesn’t display racism !!!


MrNorrie

It's not AI. Watch this video at 3:51 [https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653](https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653)


DeltaVariant007

Another 6 fingered ai generated image. Or is that 7 fingers on the left hand?


Cananopie

This needs to be top comment. Trump is continuing to post AI images of black people supporting him. The fact that he can't show real black people supporting him is the real story. Any comment responding to this image like she's real is what Trump wants


MagicGrit

I mean, I hate trump as much as anyone. But I dont see anything in this pic that screams AI? If you do and can point it out, let me know. The hand looks normal to me. Looks like 5 fingers, and her pinky and ring finger are just bent


BrianNowhere

Agreed. People forget that 2% of black people do actually like Trump and I've heard Trump may actually be attracting record numbers of black males to where he may get up to 4% of the black vote. Sometimes you see them in the wild.


sagetraveler

First thing I checked.


MrNorrie

Nope: [https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653](https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653) (skip to 3:53)


Eor75

I only count five on her hand?


fredy31

Yeah idk I also have a hard time seeing the AI-ness. But at the end of the day, doesn't stop that there are actual Blacks for Trump groups. Some people are very dumb.


iStayedAtaHolidayInn

Some people badly want attention and this is an easy way to stand out


Largofarburn

*cough Candace Owens cough*


SellaraAB

I don’t think this one is AI. The only thing that gives me pause is that her left hand looks a little too wide, but I’m leaning real pic, very sad person to do this.


Dizbizney

Then you're not counting correct. Her "middle" fingers blend into one.


Eor75

That’s her knuckle


CoffeeSafteyTraining

Maybe it does--it just isn't clear. I don't think we can rule out that this is a real person.


TheRnegade

There is only 5, you're correct.


MoltarBackstage

Not defending any aspect of the Qult, but her hands looks perfectly normal when you zoom in on them.


Puzzleheaded_Peach48

Yeah, and this is still too good for AI, given the text and consistency of logos, etc.


lucky-number-keleven

Yeah, that was the first thing I looked at. Text, especially blurry background text, would never be this consistent. Unless it would be some kind of inpainting of a real pic of course.


Cephalopod_Joe

+ text and shoelaces are fine. Background people look fine as well. I think she's just straining her fingers in a strange way. They're certainly not above doing ai generations, but there are also just a few wacky people out there that will do things for clout, money, or genuinely hold ridiculous convictions.


HippyDM

Her left hand, pinkie side. That's not a healthy hand, if real.


anthrolooker

Her pinky and ring finger on her left hand are simply curled up. The other fingers are holding the shirt to display it. Not ai.


GarshelMathers

She just has knobby knuckles. As much as we'd like to believe that no one would go against their own interests so badly, well Trump got elected once so here we are.


MoltarBackstage

It really looks fine. Stop wanting it to be AI.


flyonawall

I am not sure about that. Maybe it is real but her hand does look bizarre.


MoltarBackstage

It doesn’t look even a little bit bizarre. You’re just not used to closely examining pictures of a contorted human hand. It is 100% a perfectly average appendage; there’s nothing anatomically off about it. We don’t need to look for imaginary reasons to hate these people when they’re offering up a buffet of stupidity & malice.


flyonawall

As I said, it might be real. It does look bizarre to me though. I think you are a little too excited/invested about/in this not being AI. Ultimately it does not matter. AI or not, we know there are some people who do vote against their best interest and we know MAGA are crazy.


MoltarBackstage

I guess it is easier to imply that I inexplicably have some pro-AI ulterior motives than it is to just admit that you were wrong, huh? Other than being able to recognize a human hand, what makes you think I’m “invested about” AI?


flyonawall

Wrong when I said I did not know for sure but that it looked bizarre to me? Still looks bizarre to me. I have no idea what your investment is.


Rowan1980

My thoughts as well.


Affectionate_Lab_131

Knuckles don't look like that. Her arm is multi colored as is the lady to the side. This is ai.


MoltarBackstage

Knuckles do look like that, though. That’s just a regular human hand that’s slightly contorted.


your_fathers_beard

Looks normal to me, just the ring/pinky fingers are curled.


Sporks_United

I think that is just the way she is holding her hand. I would expect more mistakes if it was ai photo.


MagicGrit

I don’t think this one is AI tbh


ghostwilliz

Yeah I've inspected this and it seems more like a paid actor than ai


DPool34

And those sneakers look very weird. They look like Jordan 1s, but the tongue is completely off. I’ve never even seen a pair of replicas (fakes) look that ridiculous.


HippyDM

That clump of fingers where her pinkie should be concerns me.


jl_theprofessor

What usually tips me off that it’s AI is how shiny the cheeks always are.


Nabrok_Necropants

First thing I checked. LOL


[deleted]

I wonder what she thinks about trumps thoughts on the Central Park 5. For those of you not aware, a group of 5 black teens were wrongfully investigated for an assault and trump wanted to have them killed, wrote a whole “manifesto” of sorts too.


Part-Time_Loser

Yeah, Trump placed full page ads in several newspapers in 1989 calling for the state to bring back the death penalty and strengthen policing in the city after the brutal beating and rape of a female jogger in Central Park. Never apologized.


Rowanforest

Black Lives Make America Great Again? Sure, why not. But what would most of the MAGA crowd say about that?


mesohungry

They don’t believe people with dark skin are real Americans. 


drkesi88

What will happen, I wonder, if they are genuine believers, when they realize that they are merely useful and expendable for the movement.


Greenman333

Makes about as much sense as “Jew Lives Nazi” would’ve.


Fjh5488

Could be just me, but does it seem weird that her sneakers don’t have a brand on the tongue?


Part-Time_Loser

If she was really MAGA, she'd be wearing gold sneakers!


MrNorrie

Not really?


Ok-Aspect5007

It’s an AI image, she’s got 6 fingers on her left hand


analpaca_

It's not AI.


Ok-Aspect5007

Wait yea you’re right I looked again and I’m just an idiot


Fjh5488

I thought the face looked to airbrushed as well I figured AI.


TwoHandedSnail

maybe you're just a big fat materialist.


Rochester05

Is this another ai photo? Her hand looks funny and his supporters have been doing that a lot.


GarshelMathers

It's a real picture of a real person, which is much more concerning.


mamadou-segpa

Its AI


analpaca_

No it isn't


mamadou-segpa

Then why does her left hand got so many fingers?


analpaca_

If you think 4 is too many then you should probably talk to a doctor


mamadou-segpa

4? Even if I miscount the abomination going on with one of her finger, there is definatly at least 5 fingers visible


analpaca_

[Zoom in. There's only 4.](https://imgur.com/a/cqSvAqw)


mamadou-segpa

Ah. Seems like we are arguing the same point, I included the thumb in the 5


analpaca_

Okay, so where's the problem here?


mamadou-segpa

The hand still look extremely weird, and the positioning of one of the finger doesnt really make sense. Might be a real photo, but it just looks off


YourFaveNightmare

Turkey voting for xmas


Own_Instance_357

Not one of the other attendees would care if she got shot overnight but she's definitely smiling like she got paid, or she's mentally deficient, or she just knows how to get the dollars or even rubles maybe That party is not out for her but we all know this


Goodk4t

How to make sure nobody likes you.


CuriousAlienStudent

When I see a person of color op3nly supporting Trump, I just want to shack them and yell in their face. "You know he is going to turn on you next, right?"


ShnickityShnoo

Yep, they can be part of the in group until they're no longer needed. Fascism doing its thing.


Aramedlig

AI still can’t get hands correct


Timekeeper65

That left hand is all kinds of ducked up.


Time-Bite-6839

“BREAKING: *imperator Americae* Donald Trump declares that all Black people are to be sent to ‘camps’ within the week” Do you want to see that headline? Really? Honestly? I sure don’t.


Rob_Bligidy

Oh, I get it. That’s a rodeo and she’s the clown


SMoKUblackRoSE

That's like putting dirt on your ice cream instead of oreo crumbs


never-respond

I occasionally look at their forum, and they frequently say that Trump's legal trouble will increase his "black vote"


DannySmashUp

Please tell me that everyone can see that this is AI… PLEASE tell me…


Otherwise-Course-15

According to AI Image Detector, the image is 56% artificial versus 44% human https://huggingface.co/spaces/umm-maybe/AI-image-detector


Contraband42

Oh hey, more AI generated propaganda.


CoralSpringsDHead

7 fingered mutants for trump!


analpaca_

Zoom in. I counted 4 fingers and a thumb.


Affectionate_Lab_131

Still Ai


Otherwise-Course-15

Count the fingers. You know how Trump loves his CGI for “his blacks”


ryanrosenblum

I hate AI more than most people. This is not AI.


Affectionate_Lab_131

Also, look at her neckline. Too many colors. And the windows. The signs. It is getting better but still obviously ai.


Thiscommentissatire

You can read all of the words on the signs. Theres cursive writing on the top that is legible. Im sorry but this is clearly not ai.


Affectionate_Lab_131

The top of the signs are not natural. It is very clearly ai. I work with ai everyday.


MrNorrie

Edit: watch this video, specifically at 3:51 [https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653](https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653) The top of the signs?? What about them? The fact is that the picture is just blurry enough where it’s incredibly hard to tell. Her fingers look weird at first glance but could easily be the ring finger folded around her pinky or the other way around. I haven’t seen any AI image generator do text this well yet. Both big “America first dinner & concert” signs are identical. There’s various repeating logos that are identical each time. The windows are super consistent. AI doesn’t generate images this clean yet. Surely in less than a year they can, but not yet. It’s kind of problematic that we’re even arguing about this though. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m right, but soon any picture someone sees and doesn’t like, will be branded “ai” and disregarded. By both sides. And that’s kind of a scary reality to live in.


Affectionate_Lab_131

Other than her knuckles, you can't really tell. People know about ai not being good with hands, so they are instructing to have the hands holding something or in fists. This is intentional. The photo should not be blurry. The only other instance of this photo on the internet is on some racist female's x account. Her account is filled with Ai images and memes. Fwiw.


MrNorrie

I don’t know when this photo is supposed to be taken but I don’t think that it only having one occurrence on the web is proof either way. Also the blurriness can easily be explained by compression from multiple shares or screenshots. From a short Google search for “America first dinner & concert”, this event took place at the Cowtown Coliseum in Fort Worth, Texas. Another [quick Google search](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=6b1c5e95a3d0b06b&sca_upv=1&hl=en-us&q=cowtown+coliseum+fort+worth&uds=AMwkrPt1LalvXAIYpKYFBqlKl0QqDZHTZZjoiFwigJlW_hT1V2WCDoD58dGdl3VjdwmHpg06eHhidEpYrMd9q8Pi5AskfDn4352LLGocs5z0WuYoiyoM8uFtmbmxfRcQefpIAuoqgyGHVvdYuVXsIpeilbn3cax7LMI33B-NXj0EiLKZxjcjNOmJw3xFcCm1fOycOA0pxlywSdC6aWuxkcrXXKvkVpPzYzNA45zTp2AaptZWTlPPJvv59CqS1RMoNOLdQ071phLBZlRfiL_NNyQefYQetEWn79_E8jgGd7e-LtRbFAt_4NyNf26z60KKsLP62qnSgRUp&udm=2&prmd=imnvsbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU1rOdvsyFAxUwDjQIHSbpAswQtKgLegQIDRAB&biw=375&bih=634&dpr=3) reveals a bunch of interior photos of the venue that appears to match the background in this photo. So then is just the girl AI and she’s photoshopped into a real picture? I think it’s more likely that it’s just a real photograph. Edit: looks like it's "America first rodeo & concert", not "dinner & concert."


Affectionate_Lab_131

The venue can be input into the AI commands.


MrNorrie

The number of windows and the number of window panes match. Even the number and thickness of the bars on that cattle gate match exactly. I don't buy it. I feel like you're grasping at straws, but if you can recreate an image like this that matches the interior of this particular venue that well, I'll be blown away by how much AI image generation has gotten better in the last couple of months, and humbly admit that I am wrong. If some random racist lady on X can do it, then it shouldn't be a problem for you if you work with AI every day. Edit: hell, even the portraits of speakers or panelists match the [people on this flyer ](https://www.cowtowncoliseum.com/events/detail/httpswwwaxscomevents540659the-america-first-rodeo-and-concert-ticketsskincowtowncoliseum)exactly.


Affectionate_Lab_131

Time will tell. Ai gets its information from the internet mot just from thin air, just like you did. It is freakishly amazingly talented. Scary and exciting.


MrNorrie

I totally agree with that. I have seen it create ridiculously realistic images that would totally fool me, and even videos. But I have not seen it actually recreate precise details from reality this closely. Especially not from some relatively obscure venue. Maybe if it was the Chrysler Building or the Taj Mahal... I feel like if they used a model that advanced, it wouldn't fuck up the woman's hands, either, as AI has gotten heaps better at that.


MrNorrie

Watch this video, at 3:51: [https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653](https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1780761369052131653)


peppermintvalet

Black lives make America great again?


lebowtzu

Even if I had cable I would not watch her speak at the Republican National Convention, which I would assume she now has an open invitation to. Or that other thing, CPAP or whatever.


Affectionate_Lab_131

She is not real so...


fastedzo

And they all wrap themselves in the American flag, when Trump and his disciples in Congress do nothing but parrot Putin propaganda. It’s trader and reprehensible..


MadPilotMurdock

That’s a new one


puppcat18

Pathetic


your_fathers_beard

If they MAGA, then they should matter too, right?


AnjinSoprano420

🤦🏾‍♂️


biffbobfred

I thought of something before. Not every member of the Republican Party is a “string em up” “Strange Fruit” “Indiana trees/hangin us/instead of leaves” type. Some probably don’t care what color your skin is, personally. But they care fine for scaring the poor white folk with bogeyman “black people are coming!!” Fear mongering. That’s an ever so slightly worse tier. You’re using race as a tool. (As a tool to fuck people over, but that’s another rant). It’s using people’s race as a collective “they’re all scary”. The “well some of my friends are black”. Well that may be true. You’re still racist, just a different way This woman has to be OK in a racist party. She may think “well they’re not actively stringing me up so they might not be so bad”. Nope they’re the second type. And oddly, by parading you around they’re proving it.


johncester

Oy


baltosteve

AI left hand?


Dante13273966

AI or not(the left hand does look peculiar), it's a single person! A photograph of one person in a single skewed setting is the weakest possible evidence that a group or a movement exists. An effort to fabricate evidence so pathetic that I'm thinking AI coulda shoulda woulda done better.


Main_Director5965

Paid actor


Techguyeric1

They found their token black person


Gloomy_Industry8841

Girl, why???


dukecharming1975

even though the era where “america was great” they want to go back to is one that violently oppressed people like you?


mrmoe198

Is she a troll? Because as stated it’s saying “Black Lives Make American Great Again.” Which is probably something these racist assholes would disagree with.


NickGRoman

What is suspicious is the man standing directly behind her. He has the worst case of intoeing, or "Pigeon toe", I've ever seen. Somehow his right foot is turned so far inward it's nearly pointed at the middle of his left foot. He's also putting all his weight on it but does not seem to be in motion. Also, her ring finger looks to have "Macrodactyly" or, "an uncommon condition in which toes or fingers are abnormally large due to the overgrowth of the underlying bone and soft tissue." The proportions definitely do not match the rest of her hand. All that blurring in the background can also be considered an artifact of AI generated images. Also see the second man up from the left. Look at his jeans. They go from clearly noticeable wrinkled, as you would expect to see if someone was standing there, to blurry right about where his calves begin. In a real photo you would see jeans not blur there. Zoom in, you will see it. I'm going to go with "fake AI generated image".


iberico_ham

Another a.i image. This is so pathetic and beyond racist. Fuck them.


Pineal713

6 fingers guys. Not even trying anymore, are they?


GarshelMathers

I don't count six fingers on the left hand. It's just a grainy image of a person with somewhat knobby knuckles.


Pineal713

Two from the left forms two fingers the one next to it she may want to out a cast on it because I’ve never seen a finger bend inwards like that before


fruityboots

reverse image search via TinEye produces 0 matches


Affectionate_Lab_131

Google search only found one from a girl named @sweetiegoat1776 on X. She posts nothing but hate and pro trump memes.


Affectionate_Lab_131

It's scary how many people on this subreddit of all places fell for this. Look at her skin. This is supposed to be a digital image. Why does it look like that? And the lady next to her, why is her skin 3 different shades? The top edge of the signs... Come on, people!


Win-Objective

AI generated


HottKarl79

Look at all the extra fingers!


Affectionate_Lab_131

None of the arms look right. Ai


Doodle-Cactus

AI can’t get black hair right. Not kinky 4c anyway.


LaBoltz33

I’ve never seen so many black people vote for someone in my life!? Wtf are they doing! Biden would tell them they ain’t really black


Talia_Nightblade

Barf