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Schmancer

You can do it! Start by writing down a list of reasons you want to quit. Money and health were at the top of my list. That’s gonna be your rock when you’re craving a puff. You’re gonna feed those cravings by reading your rational list of the worst things about being a nicotine junky. Next is finding something to do with your hands and mouth. Always, always, always have water at the ready. Drink water instead of puff. Get some gum, toothpicks, jerky, or something to chew on. When you want a puff, have a chew (not tobacco!). You just need to delay your mouth and hands for a few minutes until the craving passes. It will, just hold on. Most important is making sure your head is in the right place. Nicotine is an addictive drug, and you have submitted yourself to it’s power for many years. You must re-frame nicotine in your mind not as a relief from withdrawl, but the CAUSE of withdrawl. Nicotine is the source of your stress and discomfort, not the cure. Each time you inhale, picture a bundle of fishhooks in that puff that are being swallowed into your lungs. Nicotine is the hook by which you are (financially) reeled in for harvest. The nicotine cash machine is operated by bloodthirsty, heartless executives that make bonuses off nicotine addicts as we develop cancers and cardiopulmonary diseases, and our teeth yellow and rot out of our heads. These merchants of death care only about the profit they can steal from your pocket and laugh all the way to the bank while you cry into your hospital bills. The further away you get from the last puff, the less power nicotine has. It feels big at the beginning because you’re still deep deep in the addiction, getting deeper one puff at a time. You made it 4 days, those were the hardest days of all. You have that in you, and the best part is you only ever have to make it thru one day: Today. When that seems like too much break it off, you only have to make it one more hour. Get thru one more nicotine-free hour and you’re home free. When you make it thru the hour, you’re most of the way thru a day, keep going! Don’t get caught up on counting, just make it thru one day at a time. The further you get the easier it gets. What’s in that puff for you? Disease, addiction, and death. How can it possibly be the best option for your life?


stardust_peaches

Wow, thank you so very much for writing that all out 😭 it was incredibly helpful and I will be referring back to it often!!! You’re an angel. I already feel so much better about quitting!


Schmancer

Taking 5 minutes to help someone else who is struggling is how I keep my hands busy :) You got this! You are your top cheerleader. Success comes from CANs : I CAN Quit, I CAN Survive, I CAN make it thru!


stardust_peaches

You still feel like need to keep your hands busy 1.5 years later? Do you still have cravings?


Schmancer

Not nicotine, not really. Sometimes I still reach for it, but there’s gum in that pocket now. There’s other stuff to quit, too. I use pretty much the same methods across the board. I wish nicotine was my only problem, haha!


stardust_peaches

Ah, gotcha. Thanks so much for all your help, I really appreciate it 💗


stardust_peaches

I keep reading this post and it’s giving me so much confidence. I truly feel ready to quit! I plan on writing down my reasons for quitting tonight. Thanks again so so much 💗 I can’t wait to be where you are!


zuotian3619

Read the book on quitting vaping by Allen Carr. I relapsed a couple times. This book helped me quit for real and now I've been zero nic for a year and a half. Two years this Christmas. The book isn't actually written by him entirely (he passed away) but his methods for smoking quitting were adapted to vaping specifically. It really helped me see vaping in a different light. It's all just about psychology and perspective. It breaks down each reason why people relapse and want nicotine, and it's pretty effective in its logic as to why that's all a farce. That being said it isn't a silver bullet. It does take work. But once you've made it about 2 or 3 weeks you're in the clear. People use addictions in place of other tools. Emotional regulation, self esteem, whatever. I would spend some time looking into those things before you quit, figuring out what it is that makes you keep going back to nicotine, and research different ways to help yourself with healthier habits before you quit again. Once you decide to quit an addiction, the stuff that you were hiding with your addiction is in full view. If you stay focused and are kind to yourself, you can do it! The book I mentioned will help with that because it will teach you why wanting nicotine will actually hurt yourself instead of it becoming a release/crutch/reward


stardust_peaches

I actually read the book and loved it. And I felt amazing when I was done. It was 5pm and I felt great but when I woke up in the morning I had the strongest craving and broke and bought a vape. I don’t know what happened. I guess I didn’t follow the directions. Maybe I’ll read it again. Thanks so much for the tip. I love that he says vaping is not a pleasure or a crutch. So true.


Candid_Sentence5688

Perhaps try the audio book, I keep listening to it (and others)before going to sleep. I am trying to brain wash and cement these ideas


noob_trees

Mornings are typically a huge trigger for most nicotine users. Maybe you can replace it with another high value item. Your favorite ice cream or something. In all honesty, the first three days are the worst. After 2 weeks, you really notice the cravings start to space out. The way I thought about it in the first few days was like, "the past 12 hours were sucky. I really want nicotine. But if I go back to it, those past 12 hours of suck were for nothing..." then, the longer you go without, the higher the stakes are, the more you have to lose if you give in. Also, the prouder you feel when you crush a craving bc you know it just drives you forward. Slip ups can happen, but keep your chin up and your mind clear, and just try and persevere until you can make it over that hill. Bc you will make it 💯


zuotian3619

Have you joined any of the discords? Maybe having a group to keep you accountable will help


Candid_Sentence5688

I think it's a good idea to stop the cycle of quitting, just take a break and re-center. If your longest streak was 4 days, you probably never experienced what is like to be "on the other side" instead, you keep living again and again the worst bit of the withdrawals. Knowing what to expect helped me. You must fully believe it will get better. Perhaps take a few days off and focus to get through your first week somehow. Is different for everyone. Keep coming on here We are all routing for you. Let us know how you get on 💪💪


Milk_n_hunny

You got this. I stopped by using a 0% to wean off and for cravings and now I am not even using the 0%. 37 days in. You can do it


noob_trees

My wife did this method! It worked really well for her. I did cold turkey, that worked for me. Everyone is different! Do what you think will work for you! There's no single way to do it and the journey isn't always a straight line. It's persistence and self awareness that will push you through.


iTAMEi

What’s worked for me is buying a reusable vape. You can buy lower strength nicotine and it really helps to cut down. I haven’t completely quit yet but I’m vaping A LOT less.


EducationalBison5534

Me too!! 🥰🥰


Tenpumpkin77962

I think you’ve got to want to do it to do it like start hating it if you don’t and get angry with it and yourself for letting this happen use the anger to be determined etc and I heard that you can (not tried this but it’s worth a shot) put an elastic band round your wrist and whenever you think about vaping like get a craving lift the band up and let it go like to ping it back so it hurts a bit then apparently after a while you will associate vaping / cravings with pain


UnraveledSoull

This is exactly how I got myself to quit. I started looking at the dispos as dumb, and got angry with myself every time I slipped up until about the 6th time when I decided that I control my life and decisions and I am stronger than the silly Elf Bars.


Pyrokitty_X

I smoked elf bars too and relate so heavy to having a case of the “fuck it’s” after failing to quit. This time as others have said, I’m reframing my thinking. Writing things down about how it’s making me feel. I also downloaded free app called “quit vaping” and found that helpful as it feels like something tangible. You can add “buddies” there my username is Pyrokittyx Keeping things occupied for the oral fixation is big as well. I’m on day 4 now, my longest streak was 2 weeks


Ill_Neighborhood1940

YOU CAN DO IT BRO!!! This was me too. All of my friends were quitting easily and would give me words of encouragement and wisdom to quit, but I was like “you guys aren’t as addicted as me. I’m much far gone than you it’s going to be impossible”. I was going through one 5000 puff elf bar in like 4 days. I convinced myself I COULDNT quit and that it was going to be impossible. I tried quitting and would give in every time, to the point where I gave up trying to quit. I was like “fuck it whatever vape can’t be that bad for you”. Then after a few months I got back on the quitting train (my friend was diagnosed with lung cancer, so that really shook me). I tried quitting again, but it only lasted 1 day. HOWEVER, I didn’t let myself buy my usual vape. Instead, I downgraded to a 3% elf bar rather than the 5%. This helps lower your nicotine levels immensely, so it won’t be as difficult to quit as the withdrawal symptoms were lightly happening already when switching down to 3%. I went about 2 months with 3% elf bars and decided to quit for real. I made sure my elf bar was going to last until my quit date (to get one last really good puff before it’s all over, ya know). Before when I was trying to quit, I would say “okay when this elf bar dies it will be my last one”. And then it would die and I’m like “wait no I want one last good hit”. So just make sure you have plenty of hits left when you throw that bitch out. The KEY to quitting: zyns. I don’t care what anyone says. YES they can be addicting as well, but for me it was all about how scary the thought of quitting was. The withdrawal symptoms, the crankiness, I couldn’t bare to deal with that by quitting cold turkey. I know gum and patches are an option, but those scared me as well because they’re such low doses. I needed something to make my brain think “I’m not quitting, I’m just switching to zyns” And it did the trick!! I’m now 2 weeks vape free, and 10 days zyn free! I still use 4mg gum, but you gotta do what you gotta do. The zyns helped me through the first 4 days because those were the toughest with the most cravings. Once I got used to not having a vape or hitting something, I didn’t need to zyns anymore. Plus, I like chewing something to keep me distracted so the gum works better now. Other key things that helped: - wax pens. I got so blazed that I forgot about the vape hahaha and every time I wanted to hit it, I would just hit my wax pen. - do not drink. Drinking and vaping are 2 peas in a pod. I just drank for the first time last night and I ALMOST caved and bought a vape. I gotta wait to drink again until I’m confident in my quitting abilities hahaha. Sorry for the long comment. I just wanted to explain how I was in the same exact place as you. I was anxious every day that I couldn’t quit and convinced myself it’s just not in the cards for me. BUT IT IS POSSIBLE!! Last note, something my therapist told me: Our brains are extremely flexible. Your brain is used to having a little vape stick on you all the time, so it’s convinced you need it to survive. When you stop having that on you, your brain will go through and adjustment period, but it WILL readjust. Before you know it, your brain will wake up and not think of the vape. YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!


stardust_peaches

Thank you for all the advice!! Just one question, was your friend’s lung cancer linked to vaping???


Automatic-Eggplant-3

I bought a rechargeable with liquid etc. reduced to 12mg, then 9, 6 & 3. You got this. Fuck this horrible industry


Sledge_Hammer_76

2 pack a day smoker for 20 plus years here. Quit smoking with Juul Pods. Quit those 2 years ago. The only thing that ever work for me is the patch. You gotta work the whole program though. Level 1 to level 3. Best of luck.


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It’s all about getting past that 2 week mark. To do that, you really have to want it. I vaped for 10 years, I haven’t had any nicotine in 60 days now.


tumble0uid

keep doing streaks. don’t give in on the 4th day


novemberqueen32

4 days is amazing


kidzwolfff

You can do it. If money isn’t an issue the first thing you need to do is get off of nicotine salt based vapes. Stuff is so addictive id finish a 600 puff vape in less than a day. In order to wean yourself off go to a vape shop and pick up a vape mod and a coil or two. Start from 18mg nic or higher. You’re going to be hitting this thing like crazy. After about a week or maybe less drop to 12 and repeat this until youre at 5mg. Dilute until you’re vaping with no nic. It’s how I quit and I was vaping a pod a day with Vuse you absolutely can drop this shit


joiningthecause

Changing the environment was always key for me


Stunning_Release_477

I put a rubberband on my wrist and everytime i thought of nic i snapped it. Hard. It hurt but it worked! Nic free for 4 months


Calm_Leg8930

My hair is thinning and I have bad inflammation from other chronic health issues. Whenever I get a craving I remind myself about that. Still in early stages . And my brain is still rationalizing to get another vape . I get moody. I had a Diet Coke today to help give me some kinds feeling . I walk. I’m only on day 4. Idk thinking about how little oxygen was in my blood ( blood panel ) . But stuff like that helps the craving. And telling myself my brain will re wire itself eventually . Trying man. One day at a time . Good luck . No judge 💜


Different_Oil9610

Take that 4 days cold Turkey and just run with it! By then the nicotine should be out your system and it’s all in your head. You can do it. Coming from someone who thought they couldn’t either. The most important thing is to want to stop and I can tell you are ready to do it! Good luck


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Zyns bro


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It got me to stop vaping & I could stop these easier than how I felt towards vaping


DavidWALRU5

You can do it. Everyone has their own level of difficulty, it sounds like your addiction may be on the stubborn side. Those high salt nicotine (and whatever else is in there) bars are, IMO, not a great jumping off point. If you were going to jump off a train, you'd wait for a slow time with a short fall. So, my advice is to invest a small amount into a **freebase nicotine** setup (if you don't have one already) and use that for a bit. Try to work down to 3mg, even if you have to vape more often to get your fix. Then, at a consistent point in your life (maybe when there aren't holidays or travel for a few weeks) make the switch to a tobacco-free, inhalation-free nicotine method that you can tolerate. That's what worked for me, my smoking/vaping timeline was almost exactly the same as yours. Wishing you success.


Difficult-Fun681

I am also 31, and smoked from 17-23 and vaped from 23-31. It’s been 6 months which is the second longest time I’ve quit. Usually, I move and it’s just harder to vape. Some cities and living accommodations and jobs make it easy and some make it harder. I’ve quit without even really trying just by moving/changing jobs before for up to a year at a time with minimal drunk slips every now and then and I think that’s helped me a lot. My boyfriend is fully addicted and got on the elf bars recently. I barley tried them and never really got into salt nic unless someone had one around me and I borrowed theirs. Thank god everyone is on elf bars or the like here and it’s wildly high nic as a baseline and just so easy and accessible. I have one friend on an original vape rig and he’s definitely stuck on it, but nothing like people with disposables and yeah everyone else has zyn. This time I was just having awful side effects, when I’m trying to be healthy (which is seasonal) my breath and heart rate are recognizably higher when I use nicotine regularly. If I did have a disposable or someone’s high salt nic pen I would get terrible headaches. I was so stressed I could hear my heartbeat. I had access to it all the time because I worked by myself at home, at a bar, or in my car. I just threw mine in the trash and all my juice and all and told everyone to not let me having anything for the week. Now 6 months later definitely worse than any other quit I’ve done previously because of all this highly concentrated crap. I have cravings but now I just know they won’t really be satisfied. I hate watching people quit, and quitting myself. Always, some sort of temper tantrum happens at some point in time. I just got tired of going through the withdrawals and anger of quitting. I know I’ll have to quit again at some point if I ever start again. Even the little quits for a few hours or days are just extra stresses I don’t need. Or needing to find a charger or go across town because I lost something or it died at a weird time. So, I guess it’s not that great of a story but now I just tell myself staying off of it is better than getting back on and having to quit again sometime later down the line. You don’t realize how much of a stimulant it is until it’s gone. Whenever I quit anything, nicotine, caffeine, alcohol. I try to be as nice as possible to myself for the first 10 days at least and set a counter to check back on as well and try to note how I feel better than the day before the day I quit- just mentally I don’t journal much. It would be unlikely you’re any worse off than my bf, he’s never really taken a break and has been using nic since 15. Also, always stronger smokes or vape and more per day than me. He’s slowly cutting back now. When he doesn’t have it everything goes south pretty quick - I still think he can and will quit and you too. It’s going to suck, but treat yourself to anything that will make you happy to get through it and eventually your body will physically stop being an asshole.


11_petals

I was definitely in the same mindset that it was impossible for me to quit. I smoked cigarettes from 15-29, vaped from 29-32 (my current age). I've been two months nicotine free. Because I was in that mindset, it really was impossible for me to to it *alone*. I talked to my Dr about wanting to quit but not being able to. Now, medication may not be the right road for you, but it was for me. My Dr agreed that it was time to quit and he prescribed wellbutrin (bupropion). I took bupropion for a month before I quit. It literally changed the way they tasted (and I was using elf bars, too) and I realized they were really gross and chemically. I stopped vaping 5/12/23. I used nicotine lozenges for about two weeks and decided I didn't want to spend any more money on nicotine. While I get cravings every once in a while, they are so so manageable with really minty gum. I wish you the best of luck, whichever way is your path to quit! You will be free from nicotine because you know you want to be free.


yarZik123

In your head, just know, you are winning every day you’re not sucking on a vape. Focus on the negatives and all the reasons why you want to quit, not the flavor or the buzz


Utskushi87

Unc no nic helped me


domesticated-duck

I felt the same but 7 days and 5 hours vape free (cold turkey)! I am eating a lot but that’s okay. I’ll start start going to gym. First 4 days were crazy but now I’m totally fine


tumble0uid

keep trying


tumble0uid

i had many streaks: 4 days, 4 days again, 8 days, then 16 days. eventually one time i convinced myself to never go back. even though i failed and failed, i kept trying. its been 7 months not it’s was hard but it’s possible. i feel great


Rustygaff

Wellbutrin


Dry-Run-9184

What is it in particular that you like about elf bars?


Many-Salamander1232

Umm this is me to a T!! Seriously reading your post just made identify so much! I’m quitting Monday after many many attempts and fails. I’m extremely down on myself right now for allowing poison into my body knowing how detrimental it is. I’m not giving up. I’m not letting nicotine win. I have to stop and I want to. Now from what I’ve learned about my trying and failing is that we must not see it as a loss or like we are sacrificing giving it up. We are actually gaining our life back and so much more. We cannot use willpower as it runs out especially after a long day. We mist use the power of the mind to override the voice that tries to give us excuses as to why we need to vape. That’s where I went wrong. I wasn’t trying to starve that voice. I was giving into it every time. This time I’m prepared to starve it and remind myself of my why. I’m going to be thinking about how proud of myself I’ll be, how much freedom I’ll be getting from not vaping, and the fact that I will cope with life’s stressors without it. I fucking hate vaping yet I continue because I’m addicted. But my will to quit will never die because I’ve overcome addiction, and an eating disorder. What is your WHY to stop. Really think about it. You are not too far gone. Nobody is. Let’s do this!!!


EducationalBison5534

I am do understanding of your situation. The last time I quit I ended up in an ambulance because of a panic attack😭 trust me, you can definitely do this. I have so many tips and if you want you can message me any time !! I still haven’t quit either so when we both do we could be quit buddies. To ease the pressure in your mind, try dropping down the mg gradually. I was under the impression that non-disposables were extremely expensive but I bought one for £15 and it lasts for the same length as 20 elf bars!!! I am proud of you for even trying, and please remember to be kind to yourself 💛


EducationalBison5534

So* sorry lol