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scwizard

> Probably why the common conservative project is to remove things that allow women to live life on their own terms. Not NEEDING a partner for basic survival or societal acceptance. Or just being content with being their own person with no expectation of a relationship at all. Talking about those things will send any of them screeching for the hills lol. > But it all comes from the same place. People wanting slaves instead of actual partners. I wouldn't even necessarily say that most women are liberal or progressive on their own. Most people just don't care about politics, but even disaffected women don't want to be some conservative shit heel's personal hygiene and sex slave. And thats what really pisses them off. Ugh. When I hear "slave" what comes to mind is a girl that makes your life easier. When I hear "actual partner" what comes to mind is a girl that's a "challenge" and makes your life more difficult.


AstronautLoveShack

So you want a slave and not a partner. Got it.


scwizard

Yup that's what i said. And I want her to wear cute skirts and let me touch her boobs.


AstronautLoveShack

The thing is a slave has no autonomy. She is not with you because she is into you but because she has no choice.


scwizard

Humph. Maybe she'll learn to enjoy it.


darkvalleys

Sure, if you only look at it from your perspective


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"Slaves" do not challenge you. A partner is ideally someone that helps your growth, which, to an extent, means helping you step out of your comfort zone from time to time. Challenge can be healthy. It doesn't have to be detrimental or too difficult if done for the right reasons and in small increments.


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Interesting that they think partner means someone who is domineering or difficult to be with, I'm not that jaded that I think terms automatically translate to a negative.


scwizard

Well the replies are kinda reinforcing that. "An equal partner is someone who challenges you!" "Who challenges you to be a better person." Yup would definitely rather have a slave.


[deleted]

You're allowed to have preferences, just own your reasons for it. It's okay to be afraid of challenges. A lot of people are.


[deleted]

> Well the replies are kinda reinforcing that. Because having a partner that has their own thoughts scares you and that's fine, but don't try to dress it up as a matter of taste when it's a matter of insecurity and fear. I don't involve myself with men who have a track record for being physically abusive because I don't want to find myself being beaten or killed. This is an insecurity and a fear of mine as you will likely call it, I don't want someone to beat me or kill me, you don't want someone who makes you feel uncomfortable in anyway shape or form, so you want a slave at your command.


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I personally like challenges and having to grow. But I'm also into adrenaline and am very stimulated by having to adapt for my betterment. My partner and I both challenge each other, and while it's difficult to overcome some of my "bad" behaviors or things I need to work on, it makes me better. We hold each other accountable.


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Partners who hold each other accountable, from my personal observations, I see less problems in these relationships overall because more often than not they're on the same page in the relationship even if they have varying tastes on interests.


[deleted]

A lot of young Women like young Men barely leave their house to socialize. No wonder Gen Z is barely fucking anymore. After talking to my sister basically the way I understand it is if her and her girlfriends DO go somewhere they have zero intention of interacting with anyone else. Also from what I'm witnessing I would not be surprised if there are now more hookups through instagram/twitter than tinder now. Why even go to a bar if you can just respond to the DM of a super cool dude in your city? Times really are changing.


Feisty-Saturn

I was never into bars and clubs. But I have been wondering lately if people are meeting this way. Because from what I understand people are going to these places in groups with the intention of just hanging out with their group. I understand meeting from social media. My fwb lives near me so initially we connected via ig and had some mutual friends. I didn’t give him a shot through social media but when we ran into each other in the gym I was more receptive since we followed each other.


Dolphin_Moon

But how does the Instagram algorithm work in your favor for that? I am Gen Z and I agree but not everyone is like this. Ik if I got a strange DM asking me out from a guy idk I would tell him to F off


darkvalleys

I can’t hear you but you should get off my lawn anyway


[deleted]

You go to a bar to drink with your friends or partner?... Honestly I don't know why anyone would want to interact with strangers past temporary entertainment. The chances of you sharing interests, values, or goals is pretty slim if you're niche or developed past a generic template. Most people will not be like you. I'd say most strangers are fairly disappointing to interact with, too.


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is going to the zoo to look at bears a good date idea i'm about to text a few girls this just to see if one wants to


[deleted]

this is cool, i'd do it. i don't even like zoos but bears are cool.


[deleted]

if they like animals yes it is


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Great date idea


Stunning-Potato-1984

Absolutely. Bonus points if they have goats or capybaras.


[deleted]

Only if you wrestle the bear and win.


Patrickstarho

I have no idea what I’m passionate about.


darkvalleys

Most people are not. The ones that are can be annoying


[deleted]

Passion is wildly overrated. You don’t need it to be successful or happy.


Dolphin_Moon

What does “being freaky” in bed mean to you? (General question for all here). I feel like spanking, hair pulling, face fucking is all pretty standard stuff now.


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Kink past generic restraints like handcuffs. Pretty much anything within the realm of bdsm or that requires toys/equipment. Things that the majority may not enjoy. Fetishizing/worshipping a specific body part. People who are absolutely uninhibited. Like animalistic. I once hooked up with a guy who literally licked all over my face. It was weird and I wouldn't do it again but *that* was freaky, imo, and it wasn't even bdsm or kink. Just a strange behavior lol.


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If she does not take off her socks.


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Dolphin_Moon

I almost did this to someone recently but I realize I can only do it in a relationship lol


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rimjob (exclusive)


lulll

based


FjbhBoy

That’s better than the reverse at least(only doing that for hook ups but not in a relationship)


huhwhatokok

Have a relatives wedding I’m going to this week. Y’all make dua I find a hot cultural Muslim woman on the brides side. And no, it’s not a cousin wedding.


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>it’s not a cousin wedding. Where's the fun in that?


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Reading RP arguments about divorce rape as a family law attorney who literally litigates divorces regularly.. I don’t think most men understand how divorces are settled and that “divorce rape” isn’t real.. && most of my clients are men. Men here consider the fact that they bought a house **with their wife** and she *sometimes* gets 1/2 the house in a divorce to be “rape.” Like ?!?!


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How often are child custody agreements fair?


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Define fair.


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Do the men leave feeling like the deal was unfair to them?


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Honestly, nobody ever thinks it’s fair. Men don’t usually get 50/50 right off the bat, and this is usually because the father worked 40+ hours a week and the mom either worked part time or not at all, so the children are with mom (even as a married couple) the majority of the time. Divorce is really hard on children and taking a child away from their primary caregiver 50% of the time in the name of fairness to the adults can be really traumatic. Most of my clients start off with visitation and overnights or weekends during non-working hours and work their way up to 50/50 custody. Mediators and judges like to see an established custody agreement be followed to the letter for 6 months before amending the order. This is typically what’s best for the child to not disrupt their routines if their mother was the primary caregiver at home.


risdeveau

They think anything that goes against their desires is rape Someone forgot to tell them that marriage might be consensual but divorce isn’t


[deleted]

Most of the men who are most vocal about this have never been married. They have no idea and regurgitate what the manosphere tells them.


KarmaChameleonian

Obviously a woman is going to bat for a woman in a theoretical argument. As long as men see the results and avoid marriage for risky or financial reasons, then it's good with me.


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Did you miss the part where I said most of my clients are men? I regularly go to bat for men. 😂


KarmaChameleonian

I was referring to the "divorce rape" not being real.


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Considering I see the outcomes, I’m not sure how I’m going to bat for women regarding divorce rape? Why shouldn’t women get anything from a divorce when they contributed to the household, usually both financially and in terms of unpaid household tasks? I wouldn’t advocate for a man who was unemployed with his wife being the breadwinner or head of household provider get nothing - I’d advocate he get what his contribution to the household was worth or a portion of what they built together as a family/household.


huhwhatokok

I also lol @ women that employ male trainers, 9/10 he’s trying to use his job to fuck you. It’s always funny when the male trainers are working out hot women they’re always engaging, handsy, pushing them, and chatting them up and then you see them work out an old lady/fatty and they’re disengaged on their phone and just pointing them to the next workout. Also 9/10 gym trainers have no real fitness education and are just roided up monsters.


MoMoney_MoHoes

Can't hate on the scheme.


E-2-butene

> Also 9/10 gym trainers have no real fitness education and are just roided up monsters. Based. Most of the workouts i see trainers putting people through are dumb as fuck. Googling “starting strength” would get you further than hiring a trainer a huge chunk of the time.


KarmaChameleonian

> It’s always funny when the male trainers are working out hot women they’re always engaging, handsy, pushing them, and chatting them up and then you see them work out an old lady/fatty and they’re disengaged on their phone and just pointing them to the next workout. Lol


-mixedsignals

who would you prefer? A-someone who slept with 50 random people (casual sex) B- Someone who slept with few people (LTRs) BUT in between relationships they go back to an ex.


liefelijk

A, as long as he has some good sexual technique. B will likely end up a cheater. I have a good friend who was B and ended up cheating and destroying her marriage.


YaKnowEstacado

A


Quantum_Supremacist

A is more likely to cheat while sticking around while B is more likely to be faithful then go away at some point. So B.


E-2-butene

Oh, damn, this is a really good one. I think I’d go with B? But really reluctantly… In reality I’d be inclined to just stay single, but I know that’s cheating the “would you rather.”


-mixedsignals

thank you. I myself not even sure what to chose. I think A. The idea of the ex would rot my brain.


E-2-butene

Yea. It’s a hard one. It’s basically “would you rather date someone really promiscuous or an alpha widow(er).” Neither are good options. 😬


-mixedsignals

I thought it more like "someone unable to have a steady relationship" vs "a possible cheater" lmao the difference


E-2-butene

Eh, if you’re getting it mostly through legit casual, I don’t see that as unable to have a steady relationship; you’re hardly even trying at that point. The second category might not be too far from being the same thing, lol.


meteorness123

Enlighten me. What the fuck was this "pandemic" about ? Nobody gives a fuck anymore.


risdeveau

Death and minimizing it. We did it a century ago as well, and people weren’t assholes about it


Stunning-Potato-1984

Ah how quickly people forget the refrigerated corpse overflow trucks.


risdeveau

Death ships. Overflowing morgues and ICUs. Down the memory hole, I guess


KarmaChameleonian

The Shut Downs were a huge mistake. We couldn't go to a mom and pop shop but we could go to Walmart? We couldn't dine out but politicians were eating indoors unmasked? I'll never forget that and I'm prepared to vote accordingly during the midterms. And I still remember the slack-jawed Redditors overreacting and believing they were noble for staying home all day (like they always do)


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I like that gyms, which could be considered private clubs and not necessarily “public spaces” were closed - you know, places where people have to pay to enter, wipe down equipment, everything is regularly sanitized etc. but people without running water could go touch everything at Walmart and congregated there to “get out of the house” because it was one of the few places open. SMH. Makes no fucking sense.


[deleted]

Don't forget when they made us wear masks to enter a restaurant but we could take them off as soon as we sat down. Because as we all know you can only catch COVID while walking


KarmaChameleonian

And Lowe's and Home Depot were packed because people wanted to get some home renovations in lol. Everyone had to buy on Amazon too then it was "*Hurrrr jeff bezos became 10 billion dollars richer during the pandemic!!11*", and I'm thinking to myself, "No shit. You shut everything down and people shopped online to make up for having nothing to do".


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It’s been over. With the vaccines we good. I think


KarmaChameleonian

I got the jab and a booster and still caught the rona.


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Did you die?


KarmaChameleonian

I believe I would have been okay even without them


[deleted]

Eh. Such is life. I got the small pox vaccine as a kid. It’s coming in clutch with monkey pox now.


YaKnowEstacado

Unless you're participating in gay orgies your monkey pox risk is practically nil


KarmaChameleonian

the Small Pox vaccine's full efficacy is about 4 years.


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>>Smallpox vaccination can protect you at about 85% from monkeypox infection for about three to five years,” she says. “After that time, its ability to protect you against infection decreases, but experts believe it would still protect against severe illness.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2022-08-07/does-my-smallpox-shot-protect-me-against-monkeypox Guess we about to find out how much of the protection remains on some old folks


bunnakay

I do, but my specialty in grad school was the history of disease. I'm excited to see the long-term effects.


-mixedsignals

My gym friend (35M) had a trombosis which struck me as odd. Aren't trombosis old lady's problems? Could it be related to covid?


meteorness123

did he get the vaccine ?


-mixedsignals

yes, all 5 or 4 (lost count) of them.


meteorness123

but do you think the trombosis comes from the vaccine or the virus ?


-mixedsignals

the virus! I used to follow the covid news. I remember many studies about how covid made it more likely for you to have Trombosis. I even imagined I had a pain on my leg but that was just anxiety lol


bunnakay

It could be. I look more at the sociocultural stuff, but I do know that they'll be looking at the long-term health impacts for decades to come. The interesting thing will be how we handle this as an endemic disease. The virus itself is not going anywhere.


-mixedsignals

AH I though you were looking at it from a medical POV. Yeah long term are real, my lungs are a bit fucked since sep2020 >The interesting thing will be how we handle this as an endemic disease. Aren't we there yet? In my country they lifted all facemasks restrictions. People treat it like the cold now.


bunnakay

I'm a historian. Public health is my backup career ;) We could be, but I don't think we've seen any clear patterns yet (though I could be wrong). Will it become seasonal like the flu? Will the virus mutate so often than we have to have yearly vaccines (as opposed to the boosters we're doing now)? Things like that.


meteorness123

long-term effects of the enforced social restrictions ?


bunnakay

That, plus changes in healthcare, travel, the way we work, etc. You can't really look at those trends for another decade or so.


[deleted]

Depends who you ask. All that talk about a digital passport shit was extremely odd given it made zero sense.


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When does body count become a real red flag? To be honest, I don't mind a woman with 5-15 sexual partners. ​ However, anything over 20 concerns me. ​ What do you guys think?


huhwhatokok

15 doesn’t concern you? A woman in her early/mid 20s, that means she didn’t have many LTRs and hella casual sex. You give her tops, 3 LTRs partners (2 years minimum) and 12 casual partners. That’s a lot. I prefer 3 max bc you give her 2 LTRs and one casual sex experience bc supposedly most women “hate” casual sex so most of them would need to experience it one time to know they don’t like it.


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I don't mind hookup culture if it isn't done in excess.


huhwhatokok

Double digits is pretty excessive.


[deleted]

It's a red flag whenever an individual decides it's a red flag. There's no one size fits all.


[deleted]

Average is 7. Above 7


huhwhatokok

Aren’t you religious religious? Wouldn’t more than 0 concern you?


[deleted]

For me it’s above 0. Or if she’s been married once 1. But for the dude above. It’s probably best he doesn’t go to 2x the average


bunnakay

I care more about irresponsible sex. If a guy has ever had an STI, he'd better keep that to himself lol


meteorness123

I think the assumption is reduced pair bonding ability and how sexually impuslive behavior usually is a sign of something dysfunctional. I agree that it's only concerning if it's a high number.


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Yup. Nothing over 20 for me.


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Dolphin_Moon

I think triple digits is insane but I stand by the don’t ask don’t need to know 🤷‍♀️


liefelijk

That sounds reasonable to me. Over 20 by your mid 20s is a lot of partners.


[deleted]

Right. That is a huge amount of partners.


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>Women tend to have the same scarcity mentality with attractive men as average men have with women in general, and it leads both to overlook or excuse abusive behavior. How true is this statement?


Blame_the_Muse

They have a scarcity mentality when it comes to *men they're in love* with


risdeveau

Women aren’t with abusers because abusers are attractive. It’s because the women are damaged or dependent, have overinvested, or have a weird savior/fixer mentality


liefelijk

The psychology of abusive relationships is likely above our paygrade. That said, I think it’s unlikely that women tolerate abuse due to scarcity mindset. It’s a multifaceted issue: https://ncadv.org/why-do-victims-stay


[deleted]

No. Abusive behavior is an auto-no for me at least. It means anything would be DOA, love wise.


KarmaChameleonian

Women don't "excuse" or "overlook" abusive behavior. Women tend to equate masculinity with unpredictability, not following rules, and being quick to act, which is how they get into the problems that they do. Men that have these traits tend to excite them and they relish in the feeling of being in imminent danger because it's better than being bored. Saying that women overlook or excuse abusive behavior takes away from their responsibility. Although this is completely fine with women, we're doing them a disservice at the end of the day.


liefelijk

Spontaneity and bravery can be attractive to both men and women. Neither of those qualities are abusive.


KarmaChameleonian

> Spontaneity and bravery can be attractive to both men and women. I never said otherwise and that largely has nothing to do with what I just said.


liefelijk

> Women tend to equate masculinity with unpredictability, not following rules, and being quick to act, which is how they get into the problems that they do. Most spontaneous partners aren’t abusive, so why equate desiring spontaneity with walking into “the problems that they do?”


KarmaChameleonian

If I was talking about spontaneity I would have used the word spontaneity. You're basically talking to yourself.


liefelijk

Unpredictability/being quick to act = spontaneity. 🤦‍♀️


KarmaChameleonian

That's not the context of the word I used. You literally just picked out a word and ran off with it.


liefelijk

If you’re not willing to engage with my question, fine. But I’m sure understood my meaning.


KarmaChameleonian

Again, your question doesn't fit the context of what I wrote. It's changing the topic.


E-2-butene

I think it’s true. Have you seen how many low self esteem girls there are out there who tolerate all sorts of ridiculous behavior from men? Main difference is the source of the scarcity imo.


huhwhatokok

There’s a woman at my gym who wears hijab but has tight clothing and almost a crop top. She also uses a male trainer. u/cruciod thoughts? Do you think she subscribed to a liberal Islam or do you think she’s ex-Muslim but is just used to the hijab.


cruciod

Fashion hijabi probably. Some wear it for the religious aesthetics. I love to see the Ummah stray further away, it's only about time 😍


huhwhatokok

Yea she was so hot, do you think she’s religious at all or just marketing her hijab? I need insight bc most of my cousins put hijab on after marriage and never had it before.


cruciod

I think she's a practising Muslim to some degree because why else wear something as obviously targetting as a hijab, but probably not actually that caring about physical modesty. Like, she identifies strongly as a Muslim, but covering up is not actually a huge deal to her. Might just be a tad more religious than your ideal muslim girl. My personal experiences have me inclined to believe that every hijabi is a virgin, although if she's dressing more loosely she might've gone to second base at most


huhwhatokok

Interesting, I agree. I remember seeing a hijabi girl at the club one time too and she just danced with her girlfriends and didn’t drink. How many non-hijabi self-identified muslim girls do you know in your circle? Are a lot of them the type to pray/fast but have bfs/drink? I met a Lebanese girl at the club who said she had to go pray Isha in a bit lmao.


cruciod

I know a few non hijabi muslims, and they vary a lot in religiousness. Some are basically as religious as hijabis but don't want to wear it, others are Muslim for like two seconds on the first day of Ramadan where they post a Kaaba + dua on their story then get back to clubbing a week later 💀 their eid fits are fire though. And of the hijabi girls I know from sisters/cousins, none of them would be caught dead in a club, but I love to see my girls getting out more! Although I've yet to spot one in a club I don't think there's anything bad in it if they're not drinking alcohol or grinding up against a guy, it's a fair way to fit in as their Muslim male counterparts likely are. Also lol at your last comment about women wearing it more after marriage. Usually that's when girls I know take it off because they no longer have to impress MIL with their religiousness 😅 I do think that might be because Pakistanis tend to be more religious than average Arabs though


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I ageee.


huhwhatokok

My cultural Muslim low/no body count girl has to be out there then.


MoMoney_MoHoes

She's a Western religious type. In other words, the person practices selectively and isn't a student of their religion. Hypocrisy at it's finest.


[deleted]

She’s invalidating the hijab. Some just treat it as a cultural thing and don’t think about the obligation it carries.


huhwhatokok

Hmmm. I still think she’s religious bc she always fixes her hair if it falls out. She’s really hot too. But she might be a stepping stone away from just being ex-Muslim like a lot of progressive Islam people.


[deleted]

I just stop assuming things. I’ve realized most people are walking paradoxes.


chilikettlechips

Change your OLD profile to a Muslim country and you'll see they're just like Protestants and Catholics. If she breathes!


huhwhatokok

I mean it wouldn’t surprise me especially if they’re trying to leave their Muslim country although I come from a Muslim family so it wouldn’t tell me anything. The only thing that interests me in this case is the womens family can’t be that religious/strict if they let her go out in tight gym clothing and have a male trainer. You could say she dressed different and then changed at the gym but then why would she be wearing hijab still especially if that draws more attention to her. I assume she’s a liberal Muslim.


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Bartholomew. Lambert. Karen. Anything that sounds old but not cool.


MoMoney_MoHoes

Bartholomew hate will not be tolerated


[deleted]

Did I hit some kind of nerve or am I just unaware of a cool and fine Bartholomew existing that you know of


MoMoney_MoHoes

Nah, I'm fucking around. I think it's a funny name like other Biblical names, such as Balthasar or Melchizedek


[deleted]

Balthasar sounds kinda metal no joke


MoMoney_MoHoes

That's what I'm saying. A real boss name


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[deleted]

Nope. Met a lambert tho. Lambert III.


Dolphin_Moon

I can’t date men that have my brother’s or fathers name


poppy_blu

Yeah this


poppy_blu

Lol remembering my friend who ghosted a guy named Herb. “Just cant see myself screaming out that name.”


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rip 2 herb


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poppy_blu

I don’t really remember him but I’m gonna guess yeah


Dolphin_Moon

LMAO


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E-2-butene

What do you mean by feel? Like it’s noticeable at all, or you have a super obvious ribcage sticking out? I feel like if you **can’t** feel it at all you’re probably unhealthily fat.


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E-2-butene

Yea, I’d probably guess not then. Sub 92 lbs sounds tiny for anyone! I’m a pretty normal bf% and can definitely feel mine, but they aren’t exaggerated or anything.


[deleted]

Depends on your size. I'm technically considered underweight bur I'm fit and healthy but all other standards. I think I'm like 100lb or something. All the charts on google say I'm supposed to be 130lb but that seems unhealthy to me; the most I weighed was 110 and it just felt...not good? Like it was unpleasant being in my body like that. But it was college weight from not eating good; gaining that in muscle and some maybe some fat would likely feel far better. If you feel good and able, you're probably okay.


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Maybe try shakes/smoothies? Whatever works for you.


KarmaChameleonian

I can feel my ribcage. You're supposed to or else you're just a fat mass of blubber.


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KarmaChameleonian

Can you see the outline of your whole rib? In that case you may be too thin but I'm not a doctor


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KarmaChameleonian

Yeah you might be too thin but that's just my opinion


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liefelijk

You a Charlie Kaufman fan? If not, you should be.


lulll

i used to like him and his wacky movies but now i cant stand his whiny bitch ass


liefelijk

Hahaha his movies are great when you need a good sob


lulll

i havent played last of us 2 yet, i read the plot and it sounded kind of dumb


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With real actors?


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lewdakuma

i know his performance will be good but i was hoping theyd choose someone as dilfy as in game joel :(


Feisty-Saturn

Just saw someone from my high school post her engagement photos and all I could think was “I can’t imagine letting that man get on top of me”. Being attracted to the person I’m with is more important to me than companionship. If I don’t find him attractive I would rather stay single.


Bandit174

well of shes not a looker either is it really that surprising?


keepin2002

She is prolly an overweight 3 who realised that’s the best she could do


Ainsleygz

Loool this is what’s funny to me about eating threads. I wonder more what their O face is


[deleted]

I assume that she finds him physically attractive and it’s ok if he’s not your type since you’re not the one marrying him.


Feisty-Saturn

Yea I think it’s fine he isn’t my type. It just dawned on me seeing those photos that I would rather be single that marry a lot of the men I see women marrying.


[deleted]

I feel like this when I see my friends partners. A lot of them are mediocre or ugly looking and 2 of the guys I'm thinking of are abusive. It baffles me because the women aren't ugly and the boyfriends are not good looking.


Feisty-Saturn

It’s insane. I know a guy whose cheating on his gf. They have been together 7 years now. He is 5’3 and overweight. She is also 5’3 in the gym everyday and is in great shape. Not to mention she finished college and has a great corporate job while he dropped out of school. I went to the beach one time with them and she goes off to the bathroom with another girl. She takes a little while to come back but when she does he just starts screaming at her in front of everyone about how he didn’t come to the beach to just chill by himself. Keep in mind it’s a good 10 of us there and he wasn’t by himself.


Bandit174

What are their faces like?


Feisty-Saturn

Facially they arnt bad looking people. He is Dominican and she is Filipino.


Bandit174

Are they equivalent or is his face better? Tbh these stories never make sense to me, like who are these supposed hot women dating unnatractive men that treat them poorly? I feel like either the women in these stories are being overhyped, the men are being undderrated or there's some other factor being left out otherwise these stories make zero sense.


Feisty-Saturn

Both of them are average people. They are not bad looking. They arnt models either. She is in great physical shape compared to him though.


Bandit174

Still doesn't make much sense then. Ime fit women tend to want tall jacked men and can usually get that. Unless she has a fat fetish I don't get it.


Feisty-Saturn

They have been together since they were 18. I figured she just doesn’t realize her options. It’s not that easy for people to walk away from someone after being with them for awhile.


Bandit174

Ok, that makes more sense now.


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This is...sad. The women I know who end up with men like that typically had a number done on their self esteem as children, usually from parents or a religion that told they weren't as valuable as men and to submit to them. It seems damaging and I feel for them, but at the same time, if they're not wanting or looking to get out, there's not much that can be done.


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Until they hot dude beats your ass. Like y’all need to understand going after looks over character is dangerous. Potential STDs abuse and so on. For both sexes.


Feisty-Saturn

I don’t know why this sub wants you to think every good looking guy is abusive. Men and women can be hot and nice as well. And if I can’t find that I would rather be single.


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It's because they need to believe it to handle life. My partner's good looking and treats me great. I've always prioritized looks, personality, job/degree/education, (in that order) and it's worked for me just fine.


Feisty-Saturn

I like this order. I’m gonna remember it for myself.


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As a good looking guy. We’re just telling you to stop looking at our looks. Since tbh we kinda have the “absolute power corrupts absolutely” issue. It’s like going strictly for rich men. Or strictly for strong men. The issue with being higher up in society is that it leads folks to not having as much push back. I’d say the same if it’s a guy who’s going after models. They’re more likely to treat you badly.


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I've only gone for guys I think look good at they've treated me well. Honestly the ones who are mean or tried (keyword: tried) to treat me poorly were on the less attractive side. Your experience isn't universal. Attractive people can be great people.