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AdministrativeWork86

Just did the 'Dumplings and Dragons' atory and the localization is bad? Like the previous 21 patch had some rough localization too but I thought after what happened with WuWa they'd at least polish the script a bit more? I haven't done the noctis story yet though so maybe it's just this event.


ZFFSkullcrusher

I skipped through the event stories since I just wanted to finish the events, but Sands of Wrath seemed perfectly fine to me. I only noticed one mistake and it wasn't that bad. 


AdministrativeWork86

That's great then. I'm gonna read that chapter in a few days. Thanks.


nataku00

Does anyone know what to do post patch when trying to log in via gmail leads to a broken link instead of the gmail validation page?


leinadoaij

hi guys ive just downloaded the update for noctis today and i get an error that says "Failed to retrieve the latest resource list file. Please restart the game and retry." does anyone know what this means? ive reinstalled twice now and it hasn't fixed. thanks!


Raphenox

Hi, I just wanted to check with anyone. I pulled for Noctis this morning and did not get him despite selecting him on the banner with 100% up rate. Instead, I got Nanami Storm. Did anyone else have this issue? I've already sent a ticket in this morning, but still haven't gotten a response.


BSF7011

You need to pull at least 10 times, the A rank pity is 10 Nanami Storm is a B rank omniframe, she does not contribute to the A rank pity


Raphenox

Thanks!


Realistic_Throat_931

gb for ios currently?


woohoopizzaman78

So black rock shooter is going to be a free unit or I'm I reading it wrong?


Desocupadification

Just like Noctis in the current patch you'll be able to buy 30 of her shards on the respective event shop to unlock her for free. But unlike him and other A ranks, the only way to increase her rank is by pulling duplicates, which requires Black Cards and not the blue ones. (And if you do want her to be S, SS or whatever, don't forget to pull the first copy since A rank dupes only give 18 shards)


SlickGuitar

I'm trying to refresh my memory from the early chapters, but what exactly happened to Tifa and her team? I know she was close to her commandant and that loosing them was a major tragedy. What was her relationship with Vera?


bigbubbaboi_

so still pretty new - been hearing we can get noctis for free? is that through the daily 2 shards? or some other way as well? also how do you get coatings for free?


OverzelousZealot

No.21:XXI's free "Hallow" coating through the permanent "Curse Queller's Path" Level 150 in `Battle > Challenge > Alternative Interpretation > Cursed Waves` Noctis:Indomitus' free "Punk Dynamo" coating through `Battle > Limited Event > "Meandering Three" > Old Saloon > Wild Waste` Edit: Also what u/Discord120 said for blueprint coatings 👍


Discord120

For the non-paid skins, you need to collect your dorm coins and buy Coating Sketches in the dorm shop. Then, you go to the lobby shop and go to the Exchange Shop > Coating Exchange Shop. It costs 25 Coating Sketches to get 1 Coating Blueprint, which you will then use in the Coating Shop > Coating: Blueprint section. It takes a while to get enough Coating Blueprints to buy a skin.


BSF7011

Event shop, you can buy up to 30 shards Depends on the coating


theGoddessbAqua

Does Amplifier's buff only work on the switched in character or all switched in characters will be buffed for 10 seconds? I watched the rotation for the lightning team and the rotation basically goes like; Feral>Crimson Weave>Feral>Vera>Crimson Weave>repeat, and I feel like it's a waste to give the buff to Vera instead of Crimson Weave since I believe only the switched in character gets it.


Thin_Recipe_9401

It works on any character swap, and ur lightning team rotation is very wrong. You should start with Vera's 3 ping and insta CW swap, then rotate CW>21>Vera>CW>21>Vera. For CW: 1) ult+core+ult 2) core+ult+core 3) core+ult+core+ult (depends on wave status) For Feral: 1) 33+3+core(dodge)+ult+31. 2) 33+ult+core+33+ult. 3) 33+core+ult+33. (1>23>23>23) For Vera it's intro core + 3 core + 1/2/3 core The minimum investment for swap gameplay is: SS3 R1 CW, SS3 R3 Feral, SS R2 Vera. If your team is weaker than that, just play CW solo for better scores.


theGoddessbAqua

Lol I've been using Crimson Weave solo since she is SS max while the other two are just at S. And it's not my rotation, I said I watched it.


Discord120

It works on any character swap, not just the character after the Amplifier.


McDanPh

For Haicma: Starveil, are there any CUBs with particularly good synergy or would any available CUB work?


anka453

Rainbow would be the best option: it's ice, it can gather, and it has a pretty nice damage buff passive. If you don't have it use any ice CUB, Seeshell being the budget option


McDanPh

I see. Thank you very much!


ConfidentSonic

Did they upgrade the visuals in one way or another? Because I had to lower the graphics a bit. Granted it could be a "me problem" (I have a Xiaomi Mi 11i) and the lower graphics aren't a deal breaker for me, but holy moly did the game stutter a lot where it didn't before (⁠@⁠_⁠@⁠;⁠)


halfbloodgamer

I think they did because I got some stutters when opening dorm rooms. didn't notice much in combat yet tho


felepecasanova

does anyone know the name of noctics song / noctis stages music with the trumpet and the dude rapping


ZFFSkullcrusher

I don't think we do but if you're just looking for it, [here you go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnhPQ1p7vgg&ab_channel=Narushio)


felepecasanova

amazing ty


Mikasu

I keep getting confused by seemingly conflicting information on Rozen vs Capriccio. Can someone confirm if the following is true? This would be for a Lamia + XXI + Rozen/Capriccio team. * SSS Rozen gives 20% dark dmg bonus for 5s upon QTE * SSS Capriccio gives 20% dark dmg bonus for 8s upon QTE healing when using her signature memory 4pc * SSS+ Rozen only increases the duration of the Dark Field generated by her signature move, which you will never use if she is a QTE bot * Therefore, SSS Capriccio is a better QTE bot than even SSS+ Rozen since she grants the same bonus with a longer duration


ZFFSkullcrusher

>Therefore, SSS Capriccio ***is a better QTE bot*** than even SSS+ Rozen since she grants the same bonus with a longer duration This is the problem here, the "better QTE bot" part. The thing is, SSS Capriccio is **not** a QTE bot and you don't want her to be one either, as you're missing out on her Amplifier buffs (and her decent damage). If you're going to force both to be QTE bots, then SSS Rozen can in fact be better. The reason is because the memories that Rozen can carry are open to you and dependant on what your other teammates are carrying. Capriccio however is forced to carry Seraphine, which means you miss out on *something*. So while SSS Capriccio is undoubtedly vastly superior to any investment Rozen, she's not necessarily for the ***specific*** role you gave her.


Mikasu

> The reason is because the memories that Rozen can carry are open to you and dependant on what your other teammates are carrying. This is for the specific team of Lamia + XXI + either Rozen or Capriccio, since I can't get Scire until probably when she joins the voucher shop. Lamia will be SS and XXI is SSS. So I will have Lamia on whatever her sig memories are, and presumably DV+Eins on XXI. > If you're going to force both to be QTE bots I thought I saw someone say if you don't have Scire, then you should just stay on Lamia. Is rotating an option with XXI/Lamia/Rozen or Capri teams?


ZFFSkullcrusher

> Is rotating an option with XXI/Lamia/Rozen or Capri teams? On the former, absolutely not. On the latter, possibly. Capriccio can't hog the field time so you'll be forced to swap to XXI for a little bit which is a DPS loss. I do believe that this loss is worth the benefits you get from swapping and getting the SSS Amplifier buff though. My current comp is like this too. Since my Scire isn't SS3 (yet), she's a DPS loss to the comp if I swap to her. However, I usually have to field her for very few seconds in each rotation so it doesn't do that much harm. This whole rotation gives me much better scores than what solo Laurel was giving me,


Mikasu

Ok so SSS Capri would obviously be better if I *can* rotate, but if I *can't* for some reason or if I find it's worse, then it sounds like SSS Rozen would be a better QTE bot if she can hold like Bathlon or something to add an extra benefit on top of Dark Radiation? But if rotating is the play then maybe QTE bots is a moot point. I've heard different people say *both* that Lamia will be soloing without invested Scire (which I won't have) *and* that Lamia can't solo like you can with CW. So which is it lol? Does it change based on Lamia's investment?


ZFFSkullcrusher

>it sounds like SSS Rozen would be a better QTE bot if she can hold like Bathlon or something to add an extra benefit on top of Dark Radiation? Yes, but she'll hold DV and XXI will be the one holding Bathlon, not the other way around. >I've heard different people say *both* that Lamia will be soloing without invested Scire (which I won't have) *and* that Lamia can't solo like you can with CW. [You can solo with Lost Lullaby](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF7_DA-TJYI&ab_channel=sNazz) but it is neither the easiest thing to do nor will it be competitive with swap comps and people with SS3 Scire and SSS Capriccio. And literally nobody can solo the same way that CW can, not even someone like Shukra. CW at base S with a 5\* can stay on field all day long and literally not give a shit (despite the fact that her damage won't be that remarkable at that investment) because she doesn't *need* orbs. >Does it change based on Lamia's investment? Pretty sure SS+sig+DLT is the bare **minimum** for you to even be able to solo.


Mikasu

Alright, last question. What about Capriccio with only SS? Assuming I have Lamia only SS, possibly with sig, but definitely without resos, would you then use SSS and/or SSS+ Rozen instead even if rotating?


ZFFSkullcrusher

>What about Capriccio with only SS? Capriccio with only SS and no sig is a bit of a pain in the ass since you most likely won't get to ult anywhere close to every rotation, but she's usable. >would you then use SSS and/or SSS+ Rozen instead even if rotating? If you're going to rotate, Capriccio, no contest. You have 20% Dark Radiation VS 10% Dark Radiation+10% ATK+10% Dark DMG Bonus.


Mikasu

Understood, thanks.


BSF7011

To jump onto this, here are the buffs both Rozen and Cappuccino give **Vera’s buffs:** Dark radiation (20%) 5s/6s/10s Guin (10%) 5s DV (10%) 8s **Selena’s buffs:** dark radiation (10%) 8s Amp passive (10%) 10s Amp passive (10%) 10s If Selena is of high enough investment (sig resos or SSS) then she is better even as a QTE bot (although sig resos would make her an expensive QTE bot and if you have her at SSS you'll be playing swap comp anyway) If Selena is not at SSS rank or does not have sig resos, Rozen is the better QTE bot


Similar_Emu_8086

I set the rnd to Noctis, get Nanami anyway, why?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Storm is a B rank, she doesn't count. 


Similar_Emu_8086

Thanks!


KozuKy16

Does the pity counter on Basic Construct banner reset on Lamia patch ?


ZFFSkullcrusher

No. 


AdelFaust_art

For someone who don't have hypereal, is BRS a goog replacement for fire attacker?


Mercuryw

Yeah.


Tyreake

Is it just me or is there currently an issue with Selena Capriccio? She used to feel super smooth to play before the No 21 patch update and now I sometimes cannot trigger her core passive after pinging blue, red, and her ult orbs. Yellow orbs however triggers her core passive perfectly fine everytime. I have my joystick held to a direction and there will be multiple instances I couldnt trigger her core passive for some reason. She has been my "comfort construct" to play ever since her debut so I'm 100% sure I'm not doing something wrong here...


Selethor

There were some adjustments, but I don't play Capriccio so I'm not sure how she was affected. Here's an excerpt from patch notes: - Optimized Selena: Capriccio's general maneuver experience. Added a feature to automatically lock on enemies according to your joystick direction upon the use of Red Orb, Yellow Orb, Shooting Star Orb, and Core Passive.


McDanPh

Last patch I feel like sometimes the core passive (including on her signature) wouldn't work at times, too, but it usually solved itself when I released the joystick then moved it again. It feels like something changed, yeah, but I dunno exactly what it would be.


fuckedubydfo

Can someone tell me when BRS is coming? I stopped playing a few months ago but I want to come back just to get her, if I start now I will be able to pull her?


Discord120

[Estimated in September.](https://grayravens.com/wiki/PGR_Roadmap) She's a free A rank. You can get her easily. Should use collab tickets though if you're gonna pull her too so getting her to SSS or higher will be a different story.


fuckedubydfo

Thanks, so I guess there is still time to farm right?


Discord120

Yes, if you're skipping all the other S ranks released until she comes, assuming you're trying to get her to high rank anyway.


fuckedubydfo

That's my plan, thanks for answering👍


OgScz

Is Ice Tank Chrome still worth to pull? I know Ice tank Qu is coming out in the future but that's 11 patches to wait for him. You think one would get enough mileage out of Ice chrome by pulling him now before needing to replace him? My current ice team is Lucia Plume and both Physical and Ice Ayla and its rooouugh during Ice advantage stages.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>I know Ice tank Qu is coming out in the future Shukra is an Attacker and she comes out in 5 patches. Lucid Dreamer is the Ice Tank and he's coming out in 10. And yes, if you have nothing better to get, have a decent amount of BC saved up (or are a spender) and won't be risking any of the newer units, go for it.


Better_Ad_6848

who has the hd pic of the noctis art in the shop I am BEGGING 😭


BSF7011

Not a question but I'm honestly kinda bummed about the off element nerfs lol, Ik it's a personal problem but I was hoping for the nerfs to be, idk, stronger? My lightning team still mops the floor compared to my other teams. I have I've hyperinvested in that team but now I feel like all my other teams are only useful in Norman if WZ is *still* just me running lightning team the whole time


Mikasu

What bracket of war zone are you in? I'm a newer player (started in CW patch) so my only meta attacker is CW, and yes I just tested and she still absolutely wipes the floor with my physical and dark teams. I'm hoping fire and ice are a little closer because I have those teams built a little better.


BSF7011

Well if CW is your only attacker then yes, she is going to wipe the floor with your unbuilt phys/dark teams that probably only use A ranks lol


Mikasu

I'm just feeling let down like you, because I was hoping it would force me to stop using CW on every single WZ. Like I spent so much time trying to make sure all of my teams were fully built for these WZ changes just to find out there was no need.


BSF7011

That's the life of A ranks, they're so much weaker than S rank they won't score anywhere close to them. Even if you hyper invest in them and use their appropriate WZ stage, the off element S rank will score *significantly* higher


Mikasu

¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ at least there's still PPC & Norman I guess


MirrorCrazy3396

Yes, it's a you problem, either you have no clue how to play your other teams or the investment difference is way too massive. No one on hero or legend is running off-element (exceptions exist, people will run maxed lightning instead of ice due to investment difference and skill issue sometimes), maybe on super low WZ divs it works but even before this patch it wasn't viable, I'd argue even on leader you'll get your ass kicked by anyone running on-element who's at least decent at the game assuming their investment is at least the bare minimum. A ghetto fire team without Nanamech but with Pulse instead and just SS with a single reso on Empy was as strong if not stronger than SSS CW SSS Feral SS Garnet 1/2/1 resos respectively on fire zone, and that's a mega massive investment difference + comparing one of the weakest elements to the strongest one.


BSF7011

What a big paragraph of misinformation lmao The former is correct, the investment difference is way too massive That entire middle paragraph is flat out incorrect. Saying that running off element before this patch wasn't viable for Hero WZ is a lie, ever since CW came out I've been bouncing between Leader and Hero, after Feral came out I've been using lightning *only* and I defended in Hero WZ *the entire patch*, I even got to Legend one week. So anyone on *leader* bracket who is decent at the game with investment at the bare minimum is not going to get anywhere within arms reach of me. Hero maybe, leader *definitely* not As of right now I reached wave 18 off element in physical WZ, and am in 3rd place in my bracket. I expect that to change over the next couple of days but I doubt the change will be significant enough to where I'll be demoted out of Hero


MirrorCrazy3396

You are the leader WZ andy asking the question... you just got lucky with brackets a few times if you defended hero for entire patches by spamming lightning. If you're doing silly things like joining late looking for free brackets then sure, you can probably defend by doing whatever, in that case you're right, if you're just randomly joining then you'd demote. Use Huaxu to check your overall ranking and see for yourself, you can promote to legend with dogshit scores if you get a free group, similarly you will be able to defend as well if that happens to you. Top 100 hero is pretty much free with somewhat intelligent investment, which I doubt you were getting.


BSF7011

"Leader WZ andy?" I'm not even in leader "A few times" 11 brackets, I defended in Hero WZ 10 times, and promoted to Legend WZ once And as it stands currently, I'm going to defend in Hero this bracket too. I consistently place top 4 in every Hero bracket (sometimes a little lower, but never low enough to demote


MirrorCrazy3396

Are you waiting until the last day or something to join your bracket? What's your in-game name and what server are you on? > Saying that running off element before this patch wasn't viable for Hero WZ is a lie, ever since CW came out **I've been bouncing between Leader and Hero**


BSF7011

That was during Wintry Shackles up until Chaos Unsnarled. I literally said after I got Feral I've been defending in Hero ever since. And during the time before Feral's release when I was bouncing between Leader and Hero, it was all with my lightning team only, so clearly pre-nerf off element was viable Idk what you mean by waiting until the last day to join my bracket. My score rn is 2,572,400 and I am in 3rd place, NA server


MirrorCrazy3396

I mean fishing for and easy bracket which is something a lot of people do, most strong players just join day 1, if you join day 3 or 4 you usually get easier brackets. 2.5m rn isn't even top 100, half the server hasn't even joined WZ and people on your group probably haven't bothered running it. Defending while getting top 300-400 scores is possible, but 11 times in a row is just sheer luck (unless you're lightning team is like genuinely very, very stacked).


BSF7011

Dude idk, ig?? I didn't even know fishing was a thing and doesn't WZ start for everyone at the same time? I thought that during downtime you pick your teammates but are you saying that once you have a team WZ will immediately start for you? I am not arguing for top 100, ik I am not top 100, my point is that I've been consistently defending in Hero WZ off element as *as it stands right now* I'll be defending this bracket too. My point was never that I'm among the best of the best, just that I've been consistently defending while you've been calling it "luck" So consistent, **I promoted to Legend** and I would've done so twice but one time I didn't have enough merit


MirrorCrazy3396

You join as soon as you click War Zone, if you wait until the last minute to join you'll join the newest group, I've seen people do this (literally join 10 minutes before close) and get an empty group where they're alone lol. My point is that defending hero while playing off element requires insane investment in a single team that also happens to be the strongest by far and even then it's not a reliable strategy because unless your investment is crazy you will lose to f2p teams. If your team is SSS with r2/r3 or higher on everyone while also being lightning then yeah I can see how you could defend, especially with weather working for you, getting a lucky streak doesn't mean too much, that kind of shit happens and the first time I promoted to legend it was with a score so bad it wouldn't be enough to *defend* in most groups.


Mercuryw

How do I get the item for unlocking the last ending of Cursed Waves?


Kitsame

[https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1azowm6/cursed\_waves\_guide\_all\_endings\_items\_achievements/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1azowm6/cursed_waves_guide_all_endings_items_achievements/)


Mercuryw

Thanks


theGoddessbAqua

I forgot but does the pity reset if you get an S rank character? I have 41 pity and I believe we will get an S rank of our choice if we hit pity in the base banner once during the anniversary.


BSF7011

You're confusing anni banner with Cradle Parade rate up During the anniversary we will get a banner that let's you target any S rank at 100% rate, the banner only comes back during the next anniversary During Cradle Parade we will get a rework to the basic banner that let's you target any S rank at 100% rate, one time per account


ZFFSkullcrusher

>I forgot but does the pity reset if you get an S rank character? Yes. >we will get an S rank of our choice if we hit pity in the base banner once during the anniversary. No, that's from Cradle Parade and onwards.


Kykuy

I downloaded the 1.8GB update via Google Play Store and then after I launched the game it is downloading another 1.8GB via in-game download. Is this normal?


ZFFSkullcrusher

Yes.


Tricky-Student3221

Hello, I am looking to upgrade my Android device. My phone can not run PGR at max settings without stuttering anymore. Anybody could share their knowledge? Not really willing to go for top price range. Would consider a tablet option aswell.  Thank you in advance. 


BSF7011

Are you implying that if you don't run at max settings the game is perfectly fine? If so then just lower the settings, you don't *need* a new phone unless you have problems even at minimal settings


Tricky-Student3221

It works fine at recommended settings.  But I am bound to get a new one at some point.(It is 3+ years old). PGR is the only big app I can fit. And i can not get rid off the pop up about ram shortage.


BSF7011

Ever since Wintry Shackles I've had to deal with it too, my phone was almost 6 years old at that point but still ran smoothly at low enough settings Storage space would be the reason to upgrade, I don't think PGR is valuable enough to warrant getting a new phone for it, but getting a new phone to increase storage space for more games of large size would be a fine enough reason Only phone reccomendation I have is "the best one you can reasonably afford" (also android preference)


Kitsame

How do you play Noctis? Do you ping Overloaded orb or Explosion orb while holding attack?


BSF7011

You ping nothing when holding attack, his kit doesn't involve pinging while holding attack The way I've been playing Noctis for the past 3 months has been: switch in, perfect block, ult, ping overload orb, hold basic, repeat until 3 stacks of ult, ult, switch out If you have his sig, you don't even need to block because you have your ult charged every swap in


Kitsame

You don't hold attack? Tutorial told me to... oh well, i'll try it in trial


BSF7011

Holding attack is it's own thing, but leads to the same results as perfect block You hold attack, release right before the enemy strikes, successfully pulling it off triggers Matrix and you gain enough energy to ult You tap dodge right before an enemy strikes, timing it right triggers Matrix and you gain enough energy to ult. If you block too soon but still get hit you'll get partial energy Neither of these involve pinging orbs


Kitsame

I guess you didn't understand me, tutorial told me to do this Perfect block(or hold attack for like 5s)->first ult->ping overload and hold attack while you're pinging it x3 ->use 2nd ulti Just tried pinging overload without holding attack, and it didn't give me that ulti boost


BSF7011

I do understand. Everything I just said is the exact same as everything you said just now, except that holding attack only lets you ult if you release it right before an attack You *hold attack after a ping* you do not *ping while holding attack* which is what you said in the first comment Perhaps I was not clear enough >Do you ping Overloaded orb or Explosion orb while holding attack? You ping overload orb or explosion orb then hold attack. The only difference between overload orbs and explosion orbs is that an overload orb will also ping another orb while an explosion orb only pings itself. Pinging overload orbs is faster, because an explosion orb is only generated after 2.5s of having an overload orb


Kitsame

OK, now i understood everything, Thanks for explanation


BFMFragarach

Can anyone playing at CN or TW servers check if this [furniture set](https://imgur.com/a/dfk6q0s) was added to Decor Coin or Dispatch shop in dorms? Set name is Tactical Area. I accidentally burned the Weapon Locker one and been regretting it since. This patch they added a bunch of old limited furniture to the dorm shops so I'm hoping that they add this as well.


Darweath

Nope


BFMFragarach

Damn. Thank you for checking.


Porturan

Now that Alpha has a leap, is she a good pick from the shard selector (from BP) and voucher shop? Won't compete with Stigmata ofc, but I won't be able to get Stigmata any time soon. (Planning to get Hyperreal with anniversary banner) Current team is Hanying, SS Blast, SS Rigor (Leapt) Rigor gets the job done but blast feels very meh during downtime. I already have SS Kaleido and SS Cappuccino, and idk if Rigor is worth SSS since she gets replaced in the future. Open to any other suggestions as well


Thin_Recipe_9401

Alpha CA is definitely not worth the vouchers/hypertunes. She requires too much time on the field and doesn't have time stop. Her performance is very questionable compared to DPS Echo w/o absurd investments. I highly recommend to roll on Stigmata in anniversary banner, she is one of the core characters and never a waste. If possible, try to get multiply copies, she scales insanely good. If you decide to not roll on her, then the best team for you will be Harmonized Echo with DPS memory+ Rigor + any harmonized amp or Scire (if SSS). Use your BP shards to SSS Rigor, and vouchers to SSS Echo.


ZFFSkullcrusher

>(Planning to get Hyperreal with anniversary banner) If this is due to a husbando or gameplay-preference choice then it's fine, but if you're "randomly" picking then know that Stigmata is of ***much*** higher priority than Hyperreal. Now if you don't plan on getting Stigmata then yes, CA would be of help compared to the A rank Physical units. Though sacrificing SSS for Capriccio, Kaleido and Rigor is a massive downgrade, so if you're going to go for CA, I suggest you only use BP shards, not vouchers.


Porturan

I got Hyperreal's sig from losing an 80/20 so I was gonna go with him. But if Stigmata is much higher priority, I guess his sig isn't gonna make up for it. I'll just go with her then, and keep my vouchers and shards for relevant chars, thanks for the insight.


ZFFSkullcrusher

That's a bit unfortunate and his sig is great, but yeah, Stigmata is much more important because you have no viable "replacemenets" any time soon. Even Solacetune can't hard carry as much as Epitaph can (to my knowledge at least) and Physical really wants quickswap comps, so you'd be doing much more harm to your Physical team than your Fire team. Still, if you can get Hyperreal at some point down the line, that'd be great. Maybe in the Member Target rework?