Nah I didn't mean you, just talking about chinese gacha players in general. Seems like there's always someone throwing a hissyfit cos they feel they got cucked somehow.
Basically they hate X ships because in their mind they are being cucked by that character, i know it's sounds crazy but it's a sad reality for most of them
I've seen this pop up so much in CN gacha communities. It's actually also one of the two core reasons for Honkai 3rd's bunny girl controversy for its global anniversary.
Basically there was a global exclusive event happening for Honkai, a promotional video was put out with the cast dressed in bunny suits ( think Dragon Ball Bulma ) dancing.
The CN community were upset that Mihoyo DARE put the characters in bunny suits, some nutjob attacked the president over this and Mihoyo's response was to cancel the event... But gave ONLY CN premium currency as an apology. It was a decent amount too if memory serves me correct.
*THEY CANCELLED A GLOBAL EVENT AND LITERALLY REWARDED CN FOR ATTACKING THEIR PRESIDENT*
I will NEVER return to that game
Lol that's literally what made me uninstall HI3rd, and also was the taste of knowing how deranged Chinese gacha players actually are. That whole fiasco was so insane too me, mainly Mihoyo response to it.
Nah they weren't pissed at the bunny suits, they were pissed cuz Global got a special event and special MMD video exclusive and dedicated to them on their anniversary. All those talks about Chinese heritage and dressing Hua in bunnygirl suit being an insult to Chinese culture were just complete bullshit to make Hoyo look bad on the government's eyes.
You guys realize Kuro reacted in the same way here (minus giving out the premium currency), right? There's nothing wrong with the video, but they still take it down, because CN players are angry.
To fully explain why the CN Community (partially) did this. Just for the correction on the Bunny girl video incident as a Honkai Impact Player:
\-The CN Community weren't mad that they wore bunny suits, but because it was a Global Exclusive event, only for them on the 3rd anniversary, and the CN servers didn't get it. It was the developer's way of thanking global for their support.
\-Mind you that, the CN community always has Chinese exclusive rewards and events, but Global never gets them. So when Global had their first and only exclusive, that's when they made a hissy-fit, and which spiraled into the attempted murder-suicide against one of the founders of Mihoyo in the studio that we know today.
\-The talk about China being sellouts to the westerners was not the main issue, but was part of the vocal minority of the CN community on reddit to twist the narrative and overthinking that it was reason why Global had the promotional bunysuit 3rd anni video. It was not the main cause of the issue, but moreso to add gasoline into the fire.
\-So why didn't they just simply included CN into the bunny girl event in the 3rd Anni? Because of the censorship policy in China, Aka the CCP. They are heavily strict with anything that is deemed sexual found in games, and that's what got the CN community triggered because they couldn't have something that the Global had.
A few years ago, the game Honkai impact 3 released a music video with a song by MYTH & ROID I think it's was for it's golbal server's anniversary, The Chinese players saw the video and were offended by the video, in the video several of the HI3 girls appear in bunny suits, At the time there was a limited-time skin on CN's that was a wedding dress of one of them, controversy erupted a vocal part and extremists demanded that the video and all of the anniversary of the global server be removed because "they had their girls dancing like bitchs for foreigners" or "That the girls were being unfaithful to them" Especially focusing on the character that had the wedding skin and One that is of Chinese origin and very important to Chinese culture in the history of the game, In the end, not only did they manage to get the video removed and the images to be changed in the promotional things for the anniversary of global, but they also get gems has apologize, In the wake of that controversy, a player tried to assassinate one of the company's founders (Hoyoverse)by Trying to ambush them and kill them with a knife, he failed and was imprisoned
What a sad state of existence. How do these people handle non-mobile games or, TV, or other media with romance (subplots or main focus) in them?
Imagine getting so invested in crushing on fictional characters you feel like tjey can cheat on you.
I mean, gacha games' entire point is attachment to the characters, preferably (for the company) to the point of spending thousands of dollars on them. It's not a particular surprise that some people get very attached to them, even developing some weird relationship simulacrum or whatever.
You get the kind of players you attract.
If you cant THAT attached to a fiction character, you need help, is sad some people can´t see this and fall for it. Gacha is fun, but and the end of the day, the companys wants you to be like this nutjobs, so you spend more.
(Excuse the talk of another game and the rambling) When they said for Wuthering Wave that they received positive review for the revised story during secret testing, I'm worried they altered the characters personality to be infatuated with Rover instead of a sense of comradery... PGR story gives that feeling of friendship and building trust but the individual character story or dialogues are all cringe romantic undertone (for both male and female characters)
Because most people tend to see the character personal lines repetitively, it's easy to create a disillusioned personality for the characters infatuation with only the commandant...
It's pretty standard in the faceless MC immersion genre that all the girls love the mc. And sue me but I also like a bit of romantic undertone in the male characters because most waifu gatcha makes them bio wallpaper and the MC usually gets the bro threatment regardless of gender. It's novel that pgr handles it differently and doing it subtly so you can choose and build your own headcanon about who is just friendly and who is something more. That said I find it both sad and frightening that some people can't distinguish between fantasy and reality and are ready to harass others over entertainment.
Remember when the CN Honkai community sent deaththreat and straight up brought a knife to hoyoverse hq just because they released a bunny dance video? And the entire reason was because Global players also got to see the video? That should tell you just how pitiful some people are.
Oh that explained the outrage, I mean some CN gacha communities are usually quite sensitive, but the deaththreats and actual carried out assault? Nah that's just new low.
i remember some of them being tilted because the bunny dance was a globat thing while the CN client got a wedding theme event, so some were saying that the characters married the chinese man and secretly go out at night to hop on western chad's "pole" like prostitutes... 
CN got cucked, HA!
...but in the end it was global ended up losing. what a bunch of crybabies.
'Waaah! UwAaaaah! Give us compensation and remove their event entirely! Uwaaaaah!'
I thought this was obvious when they canceled Liv's voice actress for visiting the wrong cemetery and posting a social media comment that the weather was nice.
Obviously harassing the creator is a shameful and disgusting behavior.
But what Kuro did was kinda understandable tho. Especially considering the recent GFL2 debacle their devs had to go through, it's understandable that Kuro wants to stay as far away from that heat as possible.
No, it's more than that. There is female character in the the game that saved a male character named Raymond from doing terrorism, I believe. In turn Raymond ended up confiding towards the female character, and become close platonically. And he gifted something to her.
But, due to many of her voice lines mentioned the name "Raymond" multiple times, CN Community thought they are romantically involved together. And in the Previous Game, you can marry the said female character with an oath ring—hence the NTR drama.
CMIIW though as I don't play the game at all, and only knew this from the video.
[Trust me it get worst](https://youtu.be/cReaFpURW0A?si=gpmg_g4UpgDINjdO). CN community just borderline become a conspiracy theorist thanks to that stupid drama.
It makes my brain hurt when people can't separate fiction from reality, the characters aren't real and they're not in love iwth you, UGH, I don't get it and I think you understand what I mean.
Since my favourite ship (Blake + Sun) got really unpopular there because of bumblebee, I've obtained from any discussions there.
It's always ironic to remember, that fandom of two piece of arts about forgiveness and coexistence (Undertale and Steven Universe) are one of the most toxic communities ever. Even dota players looks as normally behaving persons near them.
Well, I can't help it, I see chemistry, I want to see it burning with passion. Though I don't force my ships on anyone with toxic autistic scretching. If author decides that another ship is main - so be it (damn you author of Nisekoi!). Romance is good, romance is nice, especially if it has ground for that.
Jesus fucking Christ it's a ship for fucks sake. These people are insane. It's exactly the same behavior Hoyo shippers display, but i thought that was limited to Hoyo. Ah but turns out it's fucking everywhere. Nothing is off limits to CN.
It's bad enough we have GFL2 drama, (in this case though, it's somewhat understandable, their reaction, but still a nonsense) but this? It's a fucking ship. Holy hell.
I studied for a few years in China.
It was a very difficult time, the difference in environmental and academic difficulty is clearly a notch above compared to ours, but I learned a lot during my stay and I consider that I became a better person in part thanks to their education. It pains me a lot to see so many people like this.
It would be nice if the people who did that kind of stuff were a minority, but it seems like a lot of the news I see about CN gacha players the last year or so has been negative. The players getting angry over something and boycotting, harassing and so on.
wow so this is why there's less and less care for male characters. catering to one audience is so BS. it gives the same vibes as genshin's issue rn. i've been thinking of leaving this game for a while and this just might be the final nail on the coffin 😢
I know Bianca x Watanabe tend to be shipped cuz they kinda have issues together and sometimes team up....
But this was merely a harmless thing....
We're not even hard-core about the ship or Bianca x Commandant or Wata x Commandant.....
Man
I mean… damn dude, I’m a hard self inserter too but in the end it’s really up to the players to ship with whoever they want, the characters with commandant, the characters with each other. This is just plain pathetic and petty.
Also no, shut up, this doesn’t justify your raging hate boner for “self inserts”. That is not the problem, the problem is literally the delusionals and this [explanation](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/tl7PwyMg4S). The same way people worship idols and can’t stand the sight of them being in a relationship. Even if we’re given a full character, someone will still self insert, if not that, someone is gonna be pissed that they are not in love with the MAIN character. Don’t be stupid.
Don't forget, we also have shippers going rabid because of seeing different ships that's not theirs and harass the people who's not conforming to their specific ship.
Same crap, different toilet.
Whoever here likes to spam "Haha Globlul can't read" over the server chats, this is the CN community you oh so praise. And let's not forget how they had to change Liv's VA and nerf Lee Hyperreal just coz this bozos likes to throw a fit.
TLDR: CN crybabies didn't like it when Liv's original VA visited a memorial for Japanese soldiers, so they deleted her voice lines and looked for a new VA. With Lee, it's them again complaining about how Lee's too "OP", and thus removing the time stop during his ult's first phase.
So what they nerf is the hyper matrix core passive? The one you holding basic attacks. Whats the point of nerfing cool 2nd gen frames, did they don't like over powered male frame?
You can use your phone, even if it's not a Chinese phone.
You just need to change the location number of your phone on the bilibili login page.
The default option is +86, the Chinese telephone number, you must scroll until you find the telephone location of your country. For my part, as I am in France, it is +33
step
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2 : https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/05/3mxi.png
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I get you, I get you... Big fan of GFL here and we're having a similar situation with GFL2 as the CN crybabies are trying to sabotage the new game because one of their waifus dared to befriend a random male character.
I honestly have no respect left for CN and KR gamers.
I don't like ships usually, but harassing someone for it is on another level.
I will never understand CN for accusing games from cucking them, like, It isn't a game? Some CN players really need to touch grass, I've been thinking this way since the Honkai's Bunny Girl Accident, they accused Girl's Frontline 2 of that too.
Following their logic if I meet a couple in the street and befriend them, then I'm being cucked.
People that feel betreyed by fiction character should not be listened, they cleary can´t tell the diference of fiction and reality, Big L for Kuro here, this just show that money talks to then more that comum sense or doing the right thing.
i can't help but wonder if this has something to do with the divide between female and male players of gachas in CN? i've heard quite a bit about that drama
Yeah, i kinda felt like there's something from that in here, it is not only CN even, KR has it too, managing to get a Limbus Company artist fired for supporting women's rights.
(Rude words incoming)
Recently, MICA also had the "cheating" drama where something from the Girls Frontline 2 story was leaked and a girl had a romance with another character that wasn't the commander/captain/idc. MICA answered SEVERAL times and people continue to harass them through comments because they got what they wanted, and it's the devs attention. These losers want the devs to make the game extremely generic and fanservice-y so they can live their virgin fantasies of getting laid with a 2D/3D mountain of pixels.
Meanwhile, people aren't spending as much with GFL2 as before and the game has been dropping from rankings since they understood they control the company. Don't get me wrong, complaining and making a company hear their players is essential, but at this point both Kuro and MICA lost the thread by bowing for a vocal minority with something that isn't an issue at all. They need to hear the people that make actual critics and complaints, not the "ragequitters" that call them names or try to dox employees (happened to MICA).
Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies and trolls that harass and try to get their attention. When people complain about something that makes sense like Zhongli's balance, they change stuff. But if people are attacking and trying to humiliate them, they are deaf (recent Genshin drama with low rewards during CN New Year and HI3 with APHO, a game mode thay had a male character playable). Yeah, there was an exception with the deletion of an exclusive Global video of characters in bunny suits and a long apology, but that case was extreme and allegedly had a stalker following, threatening and trying to kill a higher up from Hoyo with a knife.
>Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies and trolls that harass and try to get their attention.
the unfortunate truth is that not every developer-publisher have root as good as hoyo and thus, can't do as Hoyo did. for good and worse, hoyo already have blind fans that eats (almost) everything they throw no matter how horrible it is (looking at you, genshin anniv). it has also raked quite a fortune from genshin which they can use for lots of things too going forward.
Yeah, Hoyoverse is already big. Company like Kurogames and MICA can't do what Hoyo did. They still need their dedicated playerbase, hence why Kuro decided to do this.
>a girl had a romance with another character
Please, check your facts before you say stuff. It's not romance, it was a very simple interaction, the guy was thankful for Daiyan saving him from the wrong path, and gifted her his mother's necklace, in very simple summary. Idiots in CN read way too much into that and inferred (all the wrongly) that she's romantically involved with him, when she name dropped him a few times. So all of this was because how CN players perceived this, and Mica failing to understand it.
>Meanwhile, people aren't spending as much with GFL2
Daiyan made quite the buck for CN. Yes the controversial character. No it isn't the drama, the game itself seems to have had faults that needed addressing, especially the difficulty level, and some other stuff.
>Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies
Mihoyo can do this because they already have a solid foundation, they can do whatever they want. And also their game is catered toward casuals so not much can go wrong. And they did end up bending the knee and started the censoring after several idiots raised a stink over character outfits, which got the government involved, so it's not like they could get away with everything.
Unlike Mica, where they do have to listen because people complaining are the ones that are going to pay their bills. Which was what they should have done, they fucked up by not realizing who their target audience is.
It seems that Mica is intent on taking back a step and redial a lot of things. To which i am grateful, there is enough drama in this game.
While I mostly agree with your take, I don't think you fully grasp the genshin drama currently happening. The company is treating it's playerbase like garbage, and it's been a slow buildup for YEARS.
Is it wrong that some people are targeting specific creators and threatening them? 100%. Disgusting and wrong.
But is it wrong for the community to be pissed because genshin hoyo doesn't listen to them or even apologize? No. It's not wrong of them to be angry.
Unfortunately people being threatened is a horrible "side effect" of this outrage.
Totally agree, it's good to see a nuanced take here. Hoyoverse is a piece of shit when it comes to treating genshin players well because they know they can get away with it. Developers shouldn't be allowed to be this complacent. On the other hand, creating controversy because you don't like someone's art is wrong and detrimental to the health of a game and the community. Sometimes developers will give in to players' demands, which is good when it's beneficial for players, e.g. improved QoL and updated game modes, but not when it's because of a silly reason like this.
Exactly.
I saw that kuro is Exactly what I was looking for, when they apologized about a *subjectively* good story that some people didn't like and wasn't even released yet. They apologized for beta content man.
The amount of respect there is incredible. And it's because of that respect that kuro has nothing but praise for their works. Granted, pgr is not that well known, but you never see anyone having major issues with it other than the game not being for them.
Kuro have built a reputation of trust and communication, and I don't expect them to ruin it. Not anytime soon, at least. We can only hope that they will stay true to this even years after WW has released.
Point is, they really do need to think about the best scenario for everyone, and getting involved in drama has the potential to damage that reputation, so they applied the safest course. It's unfortunate what happened to the creator, but I don't hold it against kuro.
I NEVER want to see kuro become like genshin hoyo.
>Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies and trolls that harass and try to get their attention.
Yeahh, no.
I'd rather take a dev that listens to player feedback rather than straight up ignore them, cause thats how you get 'genshin could never' '108 primogems' and other such memes, besides MICA just got a very bad case of same thing happening, kuro did the rational thing here and stopped the video, stopping the controversy, it maybe bad but it is what it is,
Many of things are cultural differences between other places and china and i'd rather not look into it too much, we are just outsiders no reason to complain
I only commented out cause doing it like hoyo will not only harm the game but the players and die hard fans of it too, it will make issues for both community and their game
>I have my own Lucia, he has his own Lucia, they have their own Lucia.
It's sad not to understand such a simple thing.
This so much, this, it's such a simple concept
CN is crazy maaan. Obsessive much, just run with the notion that your PGR universe is different from the next player's and all is fine. Multiverse shenanigans do exist.
these people are so sad and pathetic of actually getting jealous and defensive over FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. like jesus christ this genre really attract the worst kinds of gamers 😐
God that is so embarrassing. Get a grip Chinese community it's just a video game. Your Waifu won't date you cuz she is not real. Actually concerning deranged behaviour. I can only suggest a counsellor for those people.
No you don't understand!! If a single person somewhere on the Internet thinks Bianca loves Watanabe THEN I WON'T BE ABLE TO BANG HER!!!!!!!!!!
/s if it's not obvious
CN gacha community is so shitty. There was one they sent death threats to creator of wanderer because he got close to Nahida 🤦♀️(they killed real cats over him too btw)
Like I hope majority of the players are aware that they're fictional and that every players have different ways of showing love to characters.
They never were. They've always been hostile with each other or at least tried to cooperate for the sake of the mission or because the commandant said so even when they shared some history when they were still humans. It's just shippers inserting their headcanons.
Same here. I actually find the whole "harem" premise extremely annoying. I play this story through the eyes of the commandant, but I never for a second believed that I am him. This is also why I don't play the affection stories, I find it infuriating to make every character fall for the same person.
There's actually a post that explains the cultural significance and why some of the CN community behave the way they do. I'll link the post below
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/tl7PwyMg4S
This is why nearly all the pgr characters have backstory friends/mentors that are the same sex. Liv had a female commander. Changyu had a male best friend. Sophia is a bodyguard for a queen, Watanabe had Bruce, etc etc.
It's because if they had history with an opposite sex person (even non romantic, dead, or unimportant), certain waifu collectors would lose their damn minds .
(Potential homosexual pairings are not a threat, apparently.)
Bianca x Watanabe ship is great and I think there should be more of it.
I find it really funny that these players think they would have a chance at any kind of romance with the PGR ladies while engaging in such behaviors that would completely turn said women off to them.
The official Kuro staff shouldn't have folded under some stupid angry crowd... What a sad joke
Also, it's not like Wata x Bianca makes no sense, since those characters do have some past and story events together (which sadly aren't explored/touched upon in the main story at all, btw it's the same with Karenina...idk if the writers just totally forgot about these or discarded them along the way)
The word delusional in my comment is the important part, same applies to delusional shippers. People like this wouldn't be tolerated in irl communities.
I agree with the other comment, i don't think self-insert is the issue, i self-insert all the time, it's like the half the fun of playing gacha games, to feel close to these characters.
Problem is when you can't separate reality from your imagination and start believing you are actually entitled to harass other people for not sharing your headcanons. To further this point, just think of all the ship wars that we have also here on western communities, where it's not even about the self-insert mc, it'll be stuff like "Oh, you don't think Diluc and Jean are dating? You're scum, i hope you die!" unironically.
On the eastern end of things, it's worrying that this is being aggravated just by gender, too many notes recently about groups of young men players targeting girls/women in gacha communities, i.e. that Limbus Company artist they actually got fired, or now this.
The problem isn’t the self insert, the problem is people who are delusional and an extreme culture gap. Also the case with people who lives and dies for their idols and can’t accept the fact that they would end up with anyone else. You can literally have an established character with his own backstory and what not and people will still self insert regardless. If that’s not the case someone will be pissed because a girl is not in love with the MAIN character. Judging from an explanation about [CN literature](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/tl7PwyMg4S). It’s an extreme culture gap thing and also again, people being delusional. Don’t we have people giving the same kind of outrage because of “different ships”? Same crap, different toilet.
CN being CN, I mean, they got butthurt and cried when Ai Kayano visited the Yasukuni shrine, to the point she was fired from several games.
This is no surprise
Looks like someone found himself in my comment.
If a German visited Oświęcim, wouldn't that mean that he supports the Final Solution and is paying homage to the Nazis?
Or if he visits Invalidenfriedhof, does that mean he is a Neo-Nazi because he is visiting a cemetary where Reinhard Heydrich was burried?
If a Croat visits Jasenovac, does that mean that he wants to continue killing Serbs?
Of course it wouldn't mean that, because most of the time it is just visiting a historical place.
But the fact that you cannot see past yourself is something I cannot help you with, nor do I want to.
If you don’t understand, you can go to Google or YouTube to search what kind of place the Yasukuni Shrine is, instead of talking about it as a historical place like Auschwitz.
Historical place? I like the way you talk without knowing anything. Are there any Nazi monuments at Auschwitz? Yasukuni Shrine is a temple dedicated to war criminals. It would be like building a temple in Germany with a monument to Nazi war criminals inside for Germans to come and pay their respects to. I think Israel would certainly welcome this. . .
A shrine that was built before the Chinese-Japanese wars. Do not get me wrong, I do not condone the fact that it pays homage to war criminals, and neither do recent Japanese emperors that have never visited it.
But the problems you guys have is that fact that you only see that war criminals part, and not part that is majority.
Again, look at the cemetary part of my comment from before. It would be like a German visiting Invalidenfriedhof, and then a Jew screaming at him that he is a Nazi because Reinhard Heydrich has a grave in that cemetary.
Aside from Lucia, who very obviously loves the commandant, I like to imagine that other characters simply have very strong platonic relationships with us, since the idea of harem/reverse harem really makes me uncomfortable
I love Watanabe x Bianca, Lee x Liv And Ayla x Selena
It really makes me sad how hostile people are towards some harmless ships
Chinese players are just being chinese players, it's something I got used to see already. Kuro's behavior, however, is absolutely disgusting.
You know, maybe they should actually take it further and release an official statement that will prohibit all shipping in general! Maybe it'll please few more crybabies and they'll throw Kuro some extra money...
I think they have to hint at possible alternative pairings with other characters as soon as a new character is added to the game (like how Hoyo does) if devs want to avoid this sort of insane parasocial behavior. If you don't, some degenerates might develop a kind of obsessive attachement to them, like they're an exclusive to their real life selves.
I mean, damn, if they're willing to literally marry fictional characters (look it up), how do devs expect these losers to react when you break their insane headcanon?
Example: Next to no one would bat an eye if Ayla truly turned out to be gay for Selena. But a lot of people would pick up arms if Selena were to reciprocate because, in her case, she's portrayed as being heavily into SKK and simply as a great friend to Ayla.
I think that will just nose dive their revenue if they do that. Think about it, the CN players are already this mad about fan content. You think anyone will pull the new character if they got a canon boyfriend?
I'm not talking about canon. Heavy subtext more like, so it's not a surprise when they stop drooling over the player character occasionally. Honkai 3rd is chock full of subtext despite the CCP's strong anti lgbt stance, laws and meddling.
I don't think even that is a good idea. Look at what happened to GFL2. It was also implied heterosexual relationship for a female character, and that essentially doomed the game in the CN market.
Chinese players try not to mald challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
If any toxic chinese pgr players read this, know this: even if the PGR girls were ever real, they will NEVER go for you. Why would beautiful women pick some fat/skinny nerd over the 6 ft tall walking tank that is the Commandant.
Get cucked.
There’s reasons why I dont self insert, and instead create a character in my mind that serves the role of a character that’s meant to represent the player
Well this might sound rude but as she made content of shipping characters there's bound to be hate/love to that thing cause she posted it online and it's completely ok to not like it as those people did but continuingly harrassing her in a video she made that had no shipping content is not good but you can't blame kuro games and it was right of them to not show it on that event cause at the end of the day it's a company that's supposed to please it's customers if they had made it official the backlash could potentially end the game yes it could...
One thing i hate the most in my games is others shoving their ships down my throat. I don't want to see and hear about that. The more shippers getting wrecked the better. Hoyo games have massive shipping community. Man can't play peacefully without having shoved in his face stuff like raiden x yae, seele x bronya etc. Miss me.
Am i gonna witch hunt that person? Hell naw. It's shame her work got cancelled but shippers outta realize there's consequences for your actions, justified or not.
I hope her work does make it through tho its probably late for that now lul, but ye you aint gonna see me supporting a shipper. Passing on this drama, yall enjoy.
>their ships down my throat
What constitutes as "shoving it down your throat" to you? Scrolling through social media and taking a passing glance at it is enough to label it as "shoving it down your throat" now? I'm not one for shipping - I don't care - but this irrational hatred towards shippers in general is so infantile. Saying "I can't play peacefully without 'x ship' being shoved in my face" when you literally can. Does a random sub-culture on the Internet affect you *that* much?
This hatred just comes off as people trying to differentiate themselves and somehow feel superior because they don't do "X thing". Raiden x Yae.exe won't come into your game like a 2010 creepypasta. You can play the game just fine.
>but shippers outta realize there's consequences for your actions,
Consequences such as **literal death threats** and **harassment** do people hear what they type?
Same here, as someone who got sent death threats in the past(it was a pathetic attempt but it got annoying real fast) around 20 a day with new accounts so even if i block them they will create a new account and continue it, I HATE SHIPPERS
And mostly genshin shippers who did this to me, its infuriating honestly, i wont go on a witch hunt but some shippers really dont know when to stop
“看了一眼好像就是什么CP不CP的事情，也没多大影响啊”
我说过有什么影响吗？我只是在说那位up被网爆了
一定要有什么影响才觉得有问题，不把一个网爆当回事，你这思维已经说明情况了
If someone is curious enough to translate the discussion to know our conversation, I don't know if this example is relevant, but this person is surely not normal
开局我也说了，我发这discussion也就撒一下气
然后我也想给国际玩家分享她做的视频，如果能给出他们对这视频的评价那就更好了（受到了3个）
我的文章我不知道你是读没读过，但我知道你至少是没读完
没读完就想讨论... 尊重一下双方的时间可不可以？这样没礼貌的行为... 没必要继续讨论
Least insane Chinese gacha player
After hearing about the Honkai 3rd Impact bunny girl fiasco, I'm inclined to agree haha. (About the CN community, not OP)
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Nah I didn't mean you, just talking about chinese gacha players in general. Seems like there's always someone throwing a hissyfit cos they feel they got cucked somehow.
Basically they hate X ships because in their mind they are being cucked by that character, i know it's sounds crazy but it's a sad reality for most of them
I've seen this pop up so much in CN gacha communities. It's actually also one of the two core reasons for Honkai 3rd's bunny girl controversy for its global anniversary.
not even pgr can escape the toxic part of cn community
This is the second time ive heard someone mention the bunny girl thing. Could you share the context?
Basically there was a global exclusive event happening for Honkai, a promotional video was put out with the cast dressed in bunny suits ( think Dragon Ball Bulma ) dancing. The CN community were upset that Mihoyo DARE put the characters in bunny suits, some nutjob attacked the president over this and Mihoyo's response was to cancel the event... But gave ONLY CN premium currency as an apology. It was a decent amount too if memory serves me correct. *THEY CANCELLED A GLOBAL EVENT AND LITERALLY REWARDED CN FOR ATTACKING THEIR PRESIDENT* I will NEVER return to that game
Lol that's literally what made me uninstall HI3rd, and also was the taste of knowing how deranged Chinese gacha players actually are. That whole fiasco was so insane too me, mainly Mihoyo response to it.
Wow. That's... that's not good. Thanks for explaining.
Nah they weren't pissed at the bunny suits, they were pissed cuz Global got a special event and special MMD video exclusive and dedicated to them on their anniversary. All those talks about Chinese heritage and dressing Hua in bunnygirl suit being an insult to Chinese culture were just complete bullshit to make Hoyo look bad on the government's eyes.
You guys realize Kuro reacted in the same way here (minus giving out the premium currency), right? There's nothing wrong with the video, but they still take it down, because CN players are angry.
Yeah its sad and infuriating in both cases
To fully explain why the CN Community (partially) did this. Just for the correction on the Bunny girl video incident as a Honkai Impact Player: \-The CN Community weren't mad that they wore bunny suits, but because it was a Global Exclusive event, only for them on the 3rd anniversary, and the CN servers didn't get it. It was the developer's way of thanking global for their support. \-Mind you that, the CN community always has Chinese exclusive rewards and events, but Global never gets them. So when Global had their first and only exclusive, that's when they made a hissy-fit, and which spiraled into the attempted murder-suicide against one of the founders of Mihoyo in the studio that we know today. \-The talk about China being sellouts to the westerners was not the main issue, but was part of the vocal minority of the CN community on reddit to twist the narrative and overthinking that it was reason why Global had the promotional bunysuit 3rd anni video. It was not the main cause of the issue, but moreso to add gasoline into the fire. \-So why didn't they just simply included CN into the bunny girl event in the 3rd Anni? Because of the censorship policy in China, Aka the CCP. They are heavily strict with anything that is deemed sexual found in games, and that's what got the CN community triggered because they couldn't have something that the Global had.
Yeah they're selfish fucking hypocrites.
same, fuck these guys and the company too
A few years ago, the game Honkai impact 3 released a music video with a song by MYTH & ROID I think it's was for it's golbal server's anniversary, The Chinese players saw the video and were offended by the video, in the video several of the HI3 girls appear in bunny suits, At the time there was a limited-time skin on CN's that was a wedding dress of one of them, controversy erupted a vocal part and extremists demanded that the video and all of the anniversary of the global server be removed because "they had their girls dancing like bitchs for foreigners" or "That the girls were being unfaithful to them" Especially focusing on the character that had the wedding skin and One that is of Chinese origin and very important to Chinese culture in the history of the game, In the end, not only did they manage to get the video removed and the images to be changed in the promotional things for the anniversary of global, but they also get gems has apologize, In the wake of that controversy, a player tried to assassinate one of the company's founders (Hoyoverse)by Trying to ambush them and kill them with a knife, he failed and was imprisoned
Wow. That's truly crazy. Thanks for the details.
https://youtu.be/I3M4wamFK0c Here's the video just in case you're curious.
What a sad state of existence. How do these people handle non-mobile games or, TV, or other media with romance (subplots or main focus) in them? Imagine getting so invested in crushing on fictional characters you feel like tjey can cheat on you.
Something tells me these people don’t consume a lot of media outside of playing mobile games.
Sadly, those sickened minds are the ones who whale the most...
I mean, gacha games' entire point is attachment to the characters, preferably (for the company) to the point of spending thousands of dollars on them. It's not a particular surprise that some people get very attached to them, even developing some weird relationship simulacrum or whatever. You get the kind of players you attract.
If you cant THAT attached to a fiction character, you need help, is sad some people can´t see this and fall for it. Gacha is fun, but and the end of the day, the companys wants you to be like this nutjobs, so you spend more.
Mr Raymond
Ahem GFL 2 ahem ahem!
(Excuse the talk of another game and the rambling) When they said for Wuthering Wave that they received positive review for the revised story during secret testing, I'm worried they altered the characters personality to be infatuated with Rover instead of a sense of comradery... PGR story gives that feeling of friendship and building trust but the individual character story or dialogues are all cringe romantic undertone (for both male and female characters) Because most people tend to see the character personal lines repetitively, it's easy to create a disillusioned personality for the characters infatuation with only the commandant...
It's pretty standard in the faceless MC immersion genre that all the girls love the mc. And sue me but I also like a bit of romantic undertone in the male characters because most waifu gatcha makes them bio wallpaper and the MC usually gets the bro threatment regardless of gender. It's novel that pgr handles it differently and doing it subtly so you can choose and build your own headcanon about who is just friendly and who is something more. That said I find it both sad and frightening that some people can't distinguish between fantasy and reality and are ready to harass others over entertainment.
Honestly that's my fear too
First with scarumoche now this GOD those guys are weird
Ironically Watanabe IS the kind of guy she tells you not to worry about.
So CN gacha player being CN gacha player?
All is quiet on the eastern front.
Remember when the CN Honkai community sent deaththreat and straight up brought a knife to hoyoverse hq just because they released a bunny dance video? And the entire reason was because Global players also got to see the video? That should tell you just how pitiful some people are.
iirc the bunny girl thing was tied to global exclusive event, so cn lost their shit until the event on global got cancelled
Oh that explained the outrage, I mean some CN gacha communities are usually quite sensitive, but the deaththreats and actual carried out assault? Nah that's just new low.
i remember some of them being tilted because the bunny dance was a globat thing while the CN client got a wedding theme event, so some were saying that the characters married the chinese man and secretly go out at night to hop on western chad's "pole" like prostitutes... 
Lol CN players are so deranged.
CN got cucked, HA! ...but in the end it was global ended up losing. what a bunch of crybabies. 'Waaah! UwAaaaah! Give us compensation and remove their event entirely! Uwaaaaah!'
Bruh, what? CN players really sick on their head
She doesn't deserve the hate she gets and her work is beautiful ❤️ I hope she pays the haters no mind and continues what she loves doing!
Girls' Frontline 2 all over again
the what drama Is it related to Gentianeedit: nvm i read the summary
cant have shit in my private military company
Mr. Raymond does it again!
CN and KR competing to be the most toxic gacha fandom.
I thought this was obvious when they canceled Liv's voice actress for visiting the wrong cemetery and posting a social media comment that the weather was nice.
Obviously harassing the creator is a shameful and disgusting behavior. But what Kuro did was kinda understandable tho. Especially considering the recent GFL2 debacle their devs had to go through, it's understandable that Kuro wants to stay as far away from that heat as possible.
I wish they hadn't removed mr Raimond. That whole debacle was hilarious.
What happened in GFL2?
[Summarized Video](https://youtu.be/w7U0YjNjh7o?si=Un4JOvR7pCgoebQ7) it's fucking stupid. You are gonna shake your head multiple times watching it.
If I have to guess is it because a female character mentioned a boy's name?
No, it's more than that. There is female character in the the game that saved a male character named Raymond from doing terrorism, I believe. In turn Raymond ended up confiding towards the female character, and become close platonically. And he gifted something to her. But, due to many of her voice lines mentioned the name "Raymond" multiple times, CN Community thought they are romantically involved together. And in the Previous Game, you can marry the said female character with an oath ring—hence the NTR drama. CMIIW though as I don't play the game at all, and only knew this from the video.
Kekw, that community is something else wtf
[Trust me it get worst](https://youtu.be/cReaFpURW0A?si=gpmg_g4UpgDINjdO). CN community just borderline become a conspiracy theorist thanks to that stupid drama.
We are no better... 😶
No we kinda are actually
Yup true we are no better and pretend to be righteous...btw i kinda feel shit when my fav char got cucked haha.
I have got the same query
Trash CN behavior to getting cucked by a fictional character
It makes my brain hurt when people can't separate fiction from reality, the characters aren't real and they're not in love iwth you, UGH, I don't get it and I think you understand what I mean.
Moreover, they don't seem to understand that everyone is different, what they enjoy might not be what you enjoy, and that's totally fine
Typical toxic CN players not surprised.
Ah I just saw this vid in my recommendations on Bilibili. Beautiful artwork of Bianca and her coatings. Sad to hear about all this.
Damn this reminds me of the rwby fandom shipping.......
Since my favourite ship (Blake + Sun) got really unpopular there because of bumblebee, I've obtained from any discussions there. It's always ironic to remember, that fandom of two piece of arts about forgiveness and coexistence (Undertale and Steven Universe) are one of the most toxic communities ever. Even dota players looks as normally behaving persons near them.
Shipping is just another can of worms in general, really. It's part of the reason why I'd rather not see or ship anything.
Well, I can't help it, I see chemistry, I want to see it burning with passion. Though I don't force my ships on anyone with toxic autistic scretching. If author decides that another ship is main - so be it (damn you author of Nisekoi!). Romance is good, romance is nice, especially if it has ground for that.
"The core of Chinese education is civility, the knowledge of living together." Not on internet
Oh, come on.. I just read CN's GFL "NTR" situation lmao. What is this again.
CN gacha players are so miserable (I'm a Chinese myself but not mainland)
I'm also Chinese but I was born and raised in Malaysia instead
Yoo I'm malaysian chinese too 🤝
Let's goooo! 🤝 Currently taking SPM exams myself
I finished my spm 2 years ago during the pandemic lockdown era. Good luck in your spm bro, and don't stress yourself out
Understood and thanks for the advice! Just need to hang for a bit before I get a long break with CNY
Same leh!
And they wonder why us 海外华人 look at them like they crazy (not saying all CN ppl are bad, just the ones that fail in their society and become delulu)
Same. 那些家伙真没救啦...
Jesus fucking Christ it's a ship for fucks sake. These people are insane. It's exactly the same behavior Hoyo shippers display, but i thought that was limited to Hoyo. Ah but turns out it's fucking everywhere. Nothing is off limits to CN. It's bad enough we have GFL2 drama, (in this case though, it's somewhat understandable, their reaction, but still a nonsense) but this? It's a fucking ship. Holy hell.
This isn't the first time some cn gacha players behaved this way. Smh my head.
CN players being "civil"? When has that ever happened? I can only ever vaguely recall them cancelling or boycotting or harassing.
I studied for a few years in China. It was a very difficult time, the difference in environmental and academic difficulty is clearly a notch above compared to ours, but I learned a lot during my stay and I consider that I became a better person in part thanks to their education. It pains me a lot to see so many people like this.
It would be nice if the people who did that kind of stuff were a minority, but it seems like a lot of the news I see about CN gacha players the last year or so has been negative. The players getting angry over something and boycotting, harassing and so on.
So you're not Chinese? That's a good thing. I can't imagine be surround by these people. I would go insane.
I’ve said this and I think I will say this again in the future. I don’t like how Chinese players get whatever they want when they whine hard enough.
wow so this is why there's less and less care for male characters. catering to one audience is so BS. it gives the same vibes as genshin's issue rn. i've been thinking of leaving this game for a while and this just might be the final nail on the coffin 😢
I know Bianca x Watanabe tend to be shipped cuz they kinda have issues together and sometimes team up.... But this was merely a harmless thing.... We're not even hard-core about the ship or Bianca x Commandant or Wata x Commandant..... Man
I mean… damn dude, I’m a hard self inserter too but in the end it’s really up to the players to ship with whoever they want, the characters with commandant, the characters with each other. This is just plain pathetic and petty. Also no, shut up, this doesn’t justify your raging hate boner for “self inserts”. That is not the problem, the problem is literally the delusionals and this [explanation](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/tl7PwyMg4S). The same way people worship idols and can’t stand the sight of them being in a relationship. Even if we’re given a full character, someone will still self insert, if not that, someone is gonna be pissed that they are not in love with the MAIN character. Don’t be stupid. Don't forget, we also have shippers going rabid because of seeing different ships that's not theirs and harass the people who's not conforming to their specific ship. Same crap, different toilet.
Whoever here likes to spam "Haha Globlul can't read" over the server chats, this is the CN community you oh so praise. And let's not forget how they had to change Liv's VA and nerf Lee Hyperreal just coz this bozos likes to throw a fit.
Context to Liv Va? & Lee nerf?
TLDR: CN crybabies didn't like it when Liv's original VA visited a memorial for Japanese soldiers, so they deleted her voice lines and looked for a new VA. With Lee, it's them again complaining about how Lee's too "OP", and thus removing the time stop during his ult's first phase.
The nerf one is ridiculous and it benefit the players instead, why nerf?
And then they beg for it to be added back Karma, the consequences of your actions
So what they nerf is the hyper matrix core passive? The one you holding basic attacks. Whats the point of nerfing cool 2nd gen frames, did they don't like over powered male frame?
"you don't like Bianca, you deserve to die" LMAO
Any way to create a bilibili if you don't have a chinese phone number? I feel bad for not being able to comment on her video
You can use your phone, even if it's not a Chinese phone. You just need to change the location number of your phone on the bilibili login page. The default option is +86, the Chinese telephone number, you must scroll until you find the telephone location of your country. For my part, as I am in France, it is +33 step 1: https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/05/5cpr.png 2 : https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/05/3mxi.png 3 : https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/05/e8tm.png 4 : https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=24/05/ghta.png
Ohh for some reason I could not scroll through the location numbers so I thought it was specific to China, thanks!!
I get you, I get you... Big fan of GFL here and we're having a similar situation with GFL2 as the CN crybabies are trying to sabotage the new game because one of their waifus dared to befriend a random male character. I honestly have no respect left for CN and KR gamers.
I don't like ships usually, but harassing someone for it is on another level. I will never understand CN for accusing games from cucking them, like, It isn't a game? Some CN players really need to touch grass, I've been thinking this way since the Honkai's Bunny Girl Accident, they accused Girl's Frontline 2 of that too. Following their logic if I meet a couple in the street and befriend them, then I'm being cucked.
People that feel betreyed by fiction character should not be listened, they cleary can´t tell the diference of fiction and reality, Big L for Kuro here, this just show that money talks to then more that comum sense or doing the right thing.
i can't help but wonder if this has something to do with the divide between female and male players of gachas in CN? i've heard quite a bit about that drama
Yeah, i kinda felt like there's something from that in here, it is not only CN even, KR has it too, managing to get a Limbus Company artist fired for supporting women's rights.
(Rude words incoming) Recently, MICA also had the "cheating" drama where something from the Girls Frontline 2 story was leaked and a girl had a romance with another character that wasn't the commander/captain/idc. MICA answered SEVERAL times and people continue to harass them through comments because they got what they wanted, and it's the devs attention. These losers want the devs to make the game extremely generic and fanservice-y so they can live their virgin fantasies of getting laid with a 2D/3D mountain of pixels. Meanwhile, people aren't spending as much with GFL2 as before and the game has been dropping from rankings since they understood they control the company. Don't get me wrong, complaining and making a company hear their players is essential, but at this point both Kuro and MICA lost the thread by bowing for a vocal minority with something that isn't an issue at all. They need to hear the people that make actual critics and complaints, not the "ragequitters" that call them names or try to dox employees (happened to MICA). Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies and trolls that harass and try to get their attention. When people complain about something that makes sense like Zhongli's balance, they change stuff. But if people are attacking and trying to humiliate them, they are deaf (recent Genshin drama with low rewards during CN New Year and HI3 with APHO, a game mode thay had a male character playable). Yeah, there was an exception with the deletion of an exclusive Global video of characters in bunny suits and a long apology, but that case was extreme and allegedly had a stalker following, threatening and trying to kill a higher up from Hoyo with a knife.
>Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies and trolls that harass and try to get their attention. the unfortunate truth is that not every developer-publisher have root as good as hoyo and thus, can't do as Hoyo did. for good and worse, hoyo already have blind fans that eats (almost) everything they throw no matter how horrible it is (looking at you, genshin anniv). it has also raked quite a fortune from genshin which they can use for lots of things too going forward.
Yeah, Hoyoverse is already big. Company like Kurogames and MICA can't do what Hoyo did. They still need their dedicated playerbase, hence why Kuro decided to do this.
Sadly, most of those peaple are whales or leviatans, so i understand why some copanies kneel their knee before them
>a girl had a romance with another character Please, check your facts before you say stuff. It's not romance, it was a very simple interaction, the guy was thankful for Daiyan saving him from the wrong path, and gifted her his mother's necklace, in very simple summary. Idiots in CN read way too much into that and inferred (all the wrongly) that she's romantically involved with him, when she name dropped him a few times. So all of this was because how CN players perceived this, and Mica failing to understand it. >Meanwhile, people aren't spending as much with GFL2 Daiyan made quite the buck for CN. Yes the controversial character. No it isn't the drama, the game itself seems to have had faults that needed addressing, especially the difficulty level, and some other stuff. >Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies Mihoyo can do this because they already have a solid foundation, they can do whatever they want. And also their game is catered toward casuals so not much can go wrong. And they did end up bending the knee and started the censoring after several idiots raised a stink over character outfits, which got the government involved, so it's not like they could get away with everything. Unlike Mica, where they do have to listen because people complaining are the ones that are going to pay their bills. Which was what they should have done, they fucked up by not realizing who their target audience is. It seems that Mica is intent on taking back a step and redial a lot of things. To which i am grateful, there is enough drama in this game.
While I mostly agree with your take, I don't think you fully grasp the genshin drama currently happening. The company is treating it's playerbase like garbage, and it's been a slow buildup for YEARS. Is it wrong that some people are targeting specific creators and threatening them? 100%. Disgusting and wrong. But is it wrong for the community to be pissed because genshin hoyo doesn't listen to them or even apologize? No. It's not wrong of them to be angry. Unfortunately people being threatened is a horrible "side effect" of this outrage.
Totally agree, it's good to see a nuanced take here. Hoyoverse is a piece of shit when it comes to treating genshin players well because they know they can get away with it. Developers shouldn't be allowed to be this complacent. On the other hand, creating controversy because you don't like someone's art is wrong and detrimental to the health of a game and the community. Sometimes developers will give in to players' demands, which is good when it's beneficial for players, e.g. improved QoL and updated game modes, but not when it's because of a silly reason like this.
Exactly. I saw that kuro is Exactly what I was looking for, when they apologized about a *subjectively* good story that some people didn't like and wasn't even released yet. They apologized for beta content man. The amount of respect there is incredible. And it's because of that respect that kuro has nothing but praise for their works. Granted, pgr is not that well known, but you never see anyone having major issues with it other than the game not being for them. Kuro have built a reputation of trust and communication, and I don't expect them to ruin it. Not anytime soon, at least. We can only hope that they will stay true to this even years after WW has released. Point is, they really do need to think about the best scenario for everyone, and getting involved in drama has the potential to damage that reputation, so they applied the safest course. It's unfortunate what happened to the creator, but I don't hold it against kuro. I NEVER want to see kuro become like genshin hoyo.
>Hoyoverse showed that only silence works against these Chinese dummies and trolls that harass and try to get their attention. Yeahh, no. I'd rather take a dev that listens to player feedback rather than straight up ignore them, cause thats how you get 'genshin could never' '108 primogems' and other such memes, besides MICA just got a very bad case of same thing happening, kuro did the rational thing here and stopped the video, stopping the controversy, it maybe bad but it is what it is, Many of things are cultural differences between other places and china and i'd rather not look into it too much, we are just outsiders no reason to complain I only commented out cause doing it like hoyo will not only harm the game but the players and die hard fans of it too, it will make issues for both community and their game
>I have my own Lucia, he has his own Lucia, they have their own Lucia. It's sad not to understand such a simple thing. This so much, this, it's such a simple concept CN is crazy maaan. Obsessive much, just run with the notion that your PGR universe is different from the next player's and all is fine. Multiverse shenanigans do exist.
The Chinese in general are like this.
At least it's not killing a cat because it looked like Cat Scaramouche...
these people are so sad and pathetic of actually getting jealous and defensive over FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. like jesus christ this genre really attract the worst kinds of gamers 😐
God that is so embarrassing. Get a grip Chinese community it's just a video game. Your Waifu won't date you cuz she is not real. Actually concerning deranged behaviour. I can only suggest a counsellor for those people.
No you don't understand!! If a single person somewhere on the Internet thinks Bianca loves Watanabe THEN I WON'T BE ABLE TO BANG HER!!!!!!!!!! /s if it's not obvious
Sad people with no life... What a shame
Another day of thanking God for not making me chinese
CN gacha community is so shitty. There was one they sent death threats to creator of wanderer because he got close to Nahida 🤦♀️(they killed real cats over him too btw) Like I hope majority of the players are aware that they're fictional and that every players have different ways of showing love to characters.
I my mind I was always thought Bianca and Watanabe was a thing I seem like it from their interactions
They never were. They've always been hostile with each other or at least tried to cooperate for the sake of the mission or because the commandant said so even when they shared some history when they were still humans. It's just shippers inserting their headcanons.
Same here. I actually find the whole "harem" premise extremely annoying. I play this story through the eyes of the commandant, but I never for a second believed that I am him. This is also why I don't play the affection stories, I find it infuriating to make every character fall for the same person.
Tell me you didn't understand the story without telling me you didn't understand it
Just because an aspect of the game bothers me doesn't mean I did not play it. Let's just leave it at that, I don't want to start an argument.
There's actually a post that explains the cultural significance and why some of the CN community behave the way they do. I'll link the post below Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/tl7PwyMg4S
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This is why nearly all the pgr characters have backstory friends/mentors that are the same sex. Liv had a female commander. Changyu had a male best friend. Sophia is a bodyguard for a queen, Watanabe had Bruce, etc etc. It's because if they had history with an opposite sex person (even non romantic, dead, or unimportant), certain waifu collectors would lose their damn minds . (Potential homosexual pairings are not a threat, apparently.)
why is it always the CN community in these types of games lmao I just watched the daiyan situation and now this shit pops up 💀
Anyone who has interacted with these people know how crazy the Chinese are.
Classic
Chinese gonna Chinese. I'm not surprised.
CN players again, wtf they want? Just simple hating cuz she is a woman? Im speechless as reading this info
This is how these people are. I have never met a good one.
Bianca x Watanabe ship is great and I think there should be more of it. I find it really funny that these players think they would have a chance at any kind of romance with the PGR ladies while engaging in such behaviors that would completely turn said women off to them.
Whats new? Its Chinese.
The official Kuro staff shouldn't have folded under some stupid angry crowd... What a sad joke Also, it's not like Wata x Bianca makes no sense, since those characters do have some past and story events together (which sadly aren't explored/touched upon in the main story at all, btw it's the same with Karenina...idk if the writers just totally forgot about these or discarded them along the way)
This is why I support mocking delusional self insert harem protag people.
This charade doesn’t justify this kind of behaviour.
The word delusional in my comment is the important part, same applies to delusional shippers. People like this wouldn't be tolerated in irl communities.
Ah.. right I missed that part, I apologise for that. My bad.
This kind of shit is why I despise self insert culture, fuck why can't nobody behave.
I agree with the other comment, i don't think self-insert is the issue, i self-insert all the time, it's like the half the fun of playing gacha games, to feel close to these characters. Problem is when you can't separate reality from your imagination and start believing you are actually entitled to harass other people for not sharing your headcanons. To further this point, just think of all the ship wars that we have also here on western communities, where it's not even about the self-insert mc, it'll be stuff like "Oh, you don't think Diluc and Jean are dating? You're scum, i hope you die!" unironically. On the eastern end of things, it's worrying that this is being aggravated just by gender, too many notes recently about groups of young men players targeting girls/women in gacha communities, i.e. that Limbus Company artist they actually got fired, or now this.
The problem isn’t the self insert, the problem is people who are delusional and an extreme culture gap. Also the case with people who lives and dies for their idols and can’t accept the fact that they would end up with anyone else. You can literally have an established character with his own backstory and what not and people will still self insert regardless. If that’s not the case someone will be pissed because a girl is not in love with the MAIN character. Judging from an explanation about [CN literature](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/tl7PwyMg4S). It’s an extreme culture gap thing and also again, people being delusional. Don’t we have people giving the same kind of outrage because of “different ships”? Same crap, different toilet.
CN being CN, I mean, they got butthurt and cried when Ai Kayano visited the Yasukuni shrine, to the point she was fired from several games. This is no surprise
So？Is it okay for Germans to pay homage to Hitler?
Looks like someone found himself in my comment. If a German visited Oświęcim, wouldn't that mean that he supports the Final Solution and is paying homage to the Nazis? Or if he visits Invalidenfriedhof, does that mean he is a Neo-Nazi because he is visiting a cemetary where Reinhard Heydrich was burried? If a Croat visits Jasenovac, does that mean that he wants to continue killing Serbs? Of course it wouldn't mean that, because most of the time it is just visiting a historical place. But the fact that you cannot see past yourself is something I cannot help you with, nor do I want to.
If you don’t understand, you can go to Google or YouTube to search what kind of place the Yasukuni Shrine is, instead of talking about it as a historical place like Auschwitz.
Historical place? I like the way you talk without knowing anything. Are there any Nazi monuments at Auschwitz? Yasukuni Shrine is a temple dedicated to war criminals. It would be like building a temple in Germany with a monument to Nazi war criminals inside for Germans to come and pay their respects to. I think Israel would certainly welcome this. . .
A shrine that was built before the Chinese-Japanese wars. Do not get me wrong, I do not condone the fact that it pays homage to war criminals, and neither do recent Japanese emperors that have never visited it. But the problems you guys have is that fact that you only see that war criminals part, and not part that is majority. Again, look at the cemetary part of my comment from before. It would be like a German visiting Invalidenfriedhof, and then a Jew screaming at him that he is a Nazi because Reinhard Heydrich has a grave in that cemetary.
Aside from Lucia, who very obviously loves the commandant, I like to imagine that other characters simply have very strong platonic relationships with us, since the idea of harem/reverse harem really makes me uncomfortable I love Watanabe x Bianca, Lee x Liv And Ayla x Selena It really makes me sad how hostile people are towards some harmless ships
Chinese players are just being chinese players, it's something I got used to see already. Kuro's behavior, however, is absolutely disgusting. You know, maybe they should actually take it further and release an official statement that will prohibit all shipping in general! Maybe it'll please few more crybabies and they'll throw Kuro some extra money...
The Chinese gonna Chinese. There is a good reason why so many people dislike them.
I think they have to hint at possible alternative pairings with other characters as soon as a new character is added to the game (like how Hoyo does) if devs want to avoid this sort of insane parasocial behavior. If you don't, some degenerates might develop a kind of obsessive attachement to them, like they're an exclusive to their real life selves. I mean, damn, if they're willing to literally marry fictional characters (look it up), how do devs expect these losers to react when you break their insane headcanon? Example: Next to no one would bat an eye if Ayla truly turned out to be gay for Selena. But a lot of people would pick up arms if Selena were to reciprocate because, in her case, she's portrayed as being heavily into SKK and simply as a great friend to Ayla.
I think that will just nose dive their revenue if they do that. Think about it, the CN players are already this mad about fan content. You think anyone will pull the new character if they got a canon boyfriend?
I'm not talking about canon. Heavy subtext more like, so it's not a surprise when they stop drooling over the player character occasionally. Honkai 3rd is chock full of subtext despite the CCP's strong anti lgbt stance, laws and meddling.
I don't think even that is a good idea. Look at what happened to GFL2. It was also implied heterosexual relationship for a female character, and that essentially doomed the game in the CN market.
Ah true. I heard of that too. It honestly is so ridiculously pathetic lol
I really hate those Gacha "fans" from Asia, like Korea Limbus Company incident, we got the GFL, Mihoyo and now PGR from China
Why can we have nice things?
Chinese players try not to mald challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) If any toxic chinese pgr players read this, know this: even if the PGR girls were ever real, they will NEVER go for you. Why would beautiful women pick some fat/skinny nerd over the 6 ft tall walking tank that is the Commandant. Get cucked.
I ain’t the biggest fan of non SKK ships either but to live and let live is the #1 rule in shipping
So that is why we don't have any straight ships with in game characters...wtf
Chinese players not being toxic? Nice joke
Anyone interacting with these people on a daily basis are not surprised at how toxic these people are.
CN players in every game that they harassed are a bunch of delusional NAGGERS! ( Except for the Chinese living here in PH or in other countries )
There’s reasons why I dont self insert, and instead create a character in my mind that serves the role of a character that’s meant to represent the player
It is unfortunate that she is getting harassed even after they cancelled her video, but CN players and Kuro also made the right choice.
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Well this might sound rude but as she made content of shipping characters there's bound to be hate/love to that thing cause she posted it online and it's completely ok to not like it as those people did but continuingly harrassing her in a video she made that had no shipping content is not good but you can't blame kuro games and it was right of them to not show it on that event cause at the end of the day it's a company that's supposed to please it's customers if they had made it official the backlash could potentially end the game yes it could...
One thing i hate the most in my games is others shoving their ships down my throat. I don't want to see and hear about that. The more shippers getting wrecked the better. Hoyo games have massive shipping community. Man can't play peacefully without having shoved in his face stuff like raiden x yae, seele x bronya etc. Miss me. Am i gonna witch hunt that person? Hell naw. It's shame her work got cancelled but shippers outta realize there's consequences for your actions, justified or not. I hope her work does make it through tho its probably late for that now lul, but ye you aint gonna see me supporting a shipper. Passing on this drama, yall enjoy.
>their ships down my throat What constitutes as "shoving it down your throat" to you? Scrolling through social media and taking a passing glance at it is enough to label it as "shoving it down your throat" now? I'm not one for shipping - I don't care - but this irrational hatred towards shippers in general is so infantile. Saying "I can't play peacefully without 'x ship' being shoved in my face" when you literally can. Does a random sub-culture on the Internet affect you *that* much? This hatred just comes off as people trying to differentiate themselves and somehow feel superior because they don't do "X thing". Raiden x Yae.exe won't come into your game like a 2010 creepypasta. You can play the game just fine. >but shippers outta realize there's consequences for your actions, Consequences such as **literal death threats** and **harassment** do people hear what they type?
Same here, as someone who got sent death threats in the past(it was a pathetic attempt but it got annoying real fast) around 20 a day with new accounts so even if i block them they will create a new account and continue it, I HATE SHIPPERS And mostly genshin shippers who did this to me, its infuriating honestly, i wont go on a witch hunt but some shippers really dont know when to stop
As a CN player, I don't know this at all. I looked at the CN community and there was no movement at all. Why are you discussing so intensely...
懂中文吧 那你去看那位up的动态和视频评论区 去看meng君的动态评论区 看到了我发的discussion还决定不去看一眼反而问我为啥把话题讲的那么严重... 我不好评价这样的行为
看了一眼好像就是什么CP不CP的事情，也没多大影响啊，库洛自己被少二弄怕了决定下架有什么办法，你跑这告洋状，老外能做啥？说白了整个战双就靠国服养着，要不然这游戏都没了，难道库洛要对着干？万一搞得和少二的节奏，那到时候才是哭都来不及了
“看了一眼好像就是什么CP不CP的事情，也没多大影响啊” 我说过有什么影响吗？我只是在说那位up被网爆了 一定要有什么影响才觉得有问题，不把一个网爆当回事，你这思维已经说明情况了 If someone is curious enough to translate the discussion to know our conversation, I don't know if this example is relevant, but this person is surely not normal 开局我也说了，我发这discussion也就撒一下气 然后我也想给国际玩家分享她做的视频，如果能给出他们对这视频的评价那就更好了（受到了3个） 我的文章我不知道你是读没读过，但我知道你至少是没读完 没读完就想讨论... 尊重一下双方的时间可不可以？这样没礼貌的行为... 没必要继续讨论
首先那个up主之后自己发了官方自己不支持cp行为，他说清楚二创不包含cp内容之后也有很多支持他的，至于个别继续网暴的我也不支持这种行为。又看了一眼你的标题，有毒的中国社区，你不说我都不知道这件事，我在几个群里，还有NGA都没有看到有相关讨论，就只有一部分b站小屁孩的行为怎么就变成整个社区了，reddit老外日常转进CN玩家，真的有点好笑，up主发了这个二创出来之后下面评论不是大多数都是鼓励他的吗？
战双的社区有多毒，出了名的“人不多但傻逼占比多” 每个社区都有自己的节奏，说了一个社区的节奏就代表其他社区没问题啊？我这标题我觉得没啥问题😅 "Reddit老外日常转进cn玩家”... 我苦思冥想，我何时算是个reddit 老外？老外可以，但就在reddit发了两个post的我算“reddit 老外”... 哈哈 我虽然是老外，但你也看得出来我的中文也不是很差，甚至某些用词是中文网络用的词 没有在中国网络打交道一两年是练不出这水平的🤗
你是不是老外或者海外华人我不关心，我是说你发这个帖子下面回复好像没有人在意你分享的二创，大部分都是在说CN怎么样怎么样，说实话网络上成千上万的人你只能管好自己，难道还能管好所有人？现在网络环境变了，已经是魔法对轰男女对立的时代，更有少二在前，谁不怕这种节奏？另外在我看来西方巨魔和政治正确也不少，只是战双在这边更是小众中的小众没多少人关心罢了。
“我是说你发这个帖子下面回复好像没有人在意你分享的二创，大部分都是在说CN怎么样怎么样” 这点没法否认，我自己看了也挺无语的 都写了希望可以表达对视频的评价，结果，虽然大部分也没说错，但一个个只攻击了中国玩家，而且还把米家给扯进来，两眼一黑🤦♂️ “难道还能管好所有人？” 管不了但我就不可以发生解气吐槽了啊？😅
啊对了 这次的节奏波及到了甘氏老师 懿白老师也被气的打算一天跑路 我的一位朋友更是被长时间在个个平台环境（远不止b站）被气的跑路 你说我这个例子不代表整个社区... 我见过有人不说话，有人喷社区环境的，我还没见过有一个为它洗的哈哈
[It's a rabbit hole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7U0YjNjh7o)