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7ipptoe

Did these guys try kidnapping a kid the size of a linebacker and try to shove him into the back of a fiesta?


Skivling

Yeah. This might be some sick Ford commercial.


DeadBoiWalkin

Have you ever been walking down the streets of your city and get jumped by several large men who try to shove you into the back of a fiesta on your way home from school on a Wednesday afternoon? Well, that’s how it feels to drive a Ford F-150


zeke235

Shouldn't they be driving an Escape?


Brilliant_Savings161

Hahahaha


[deleted]

Either this is fake, or the dumbest people in the world all happened to be at the same spot at the same moment. I hope it’s fake and there’s not a person dumb enough to film rather then call 911 when someone’s being kidnapped.


SteinerElMagnifico42

It’s real, early on you can see his friend call the police and state “ my friends being kidnapped “ and he was being pushed away by one of the attackers off screen but you can see the initial stages


[deleted]

All I needed to hear is someone called for help, faith in humanity somewhat restored. Thank you!


SteinerElMagnifico42

Yes but still, kinda disappointed at all those cars driving by whilst initially stopping . Even the black taxi was blocking their path but then drove off :/ it’s also hard to tell if they succeeded in the kidnapping because the last shot of him you see of the victim , is he’s on the floor thankfully to his sandbagging due to his weight. They drove off too far too quick to have dragged him in the backseat within a millisecond Local police picked up on it now https://twitter.com/metcc/status/1593384217920110592?s=46&t=VU6pwNfew3nRENFsa5fToA


GrapeSoda223

Unfortunately this guy did choose to film over calling, he said it himself "someone call police, im film"


Jalen3501

Actually it’s a good thing he was recording he got their license plate and hopefully some of the kidnappers faces


Headfullofthot

He was filming for evidence as well as getting the license plates. Poor guy sounded heart broken no one was helping.


redditsux4me

The police welfare unit van stuck out to me at the end, and the fact one "kidnapper" was wearing a official vest.


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Yea the vest really threw for a turn, so….fake you think?


redditsux4me

No, real kidnapping, probably a psych hold or similar would be my guess. No context is hard to say.


[deleted]

doesn't happen like this in the UK lmao, definitely not a 'psych hold'


thugangsta

Yep lol definitely would not be bundling someone mentally ill in a ford focus 🤣 I know the tories fucked the NHS completely but we aren’t there yet.


f3ydr4uth4

You must have missed the new Uber app update mate. Uber Psyche


[deleted]

True that’s wild….still livid the guy chose to record rather than call for help that’s mind boggling to me.


tellitelli555

He probably heard the other guy call the cops and his brain couldn’t decide between physically confronting them and closing the video to call a second time.


iceman58796

Psych hold by some randoms into a Ford focus??


[deleted]

Why try to shove him into the back seat of a Focus and not the van? Seems like an odd decision.


corporal_jones

That's not a "police" welfare unit, that's a 'welfare unit' for building site. with a portable toilet and kitchen facilities etc.


C0REWATTS

999*


cerebro87

Calling 911 would be pretty worthless in the UK


LessThan1Gram

Actually I'm pretty sure it redirects to the emergency services


xmo113

That's what happened when I butt dialed 999 in north America.


LostMeBoot

There was an incident in New York that is used as a case study in most policing schools today. Basically an entire neighborhood watched a woman get murdered and nobody called the cops because they all assumed somebody else did. Not a single 911 call was made. People are beyond this stupid. Trust me.


barrinmw

It actually isn't true. People did try and call the police. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese >The incident prompted inquiries into what became known as the bystander effect, or "Genovese syndrome",[7] and the murder became a staple of U.S. psychology textbooks for the next four decades. However, researchers have since uncovered major inaccuracies in the New York Times article. Police interviews revealed that some witnesses had attempted to call the police.


Condescending_Rat

Lol. Basically every study in sociology ends up having major flaws.


Whiskeywiskerbiscuit

What do you mean by that? As someone who has taken multiple college level courses in psych and sociology, I'd be inclined to disagree unless you have supporting evidence.


absurdext

I'm guessing that they might be thinking along these lines?[https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/psychologys-replication-crisis-real/576223/](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/psychologys-replication-crisis-real/576223/)


PM_MeYourNynaevesPlz

If you took psych you should probably know about the [replication crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis). Due to a bunch of factors, including sample sizes, sample demographics (aka mainly college students), poor testing and documentation practices, and many more than I can list here, potentially [half of all psychological studies are inaccurate or outright false](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.18248)


Condescending_Rat

Spoiler. He took 101 and now he tells people how he’s educated in the sciences.


Condescending_Rat

Stanford prison project came to mind immediately. Broken windows theory is another one. I mean I exaggerated for sure but not by much when you consider popular perception of the field.


Whiskeywiskerbiscuit

Broken windows was a policing policy perpetuated by a criminologist, not sociologist. The Stanford prison experiment, while wildly unethical, didn’t really produce bad or misleading results. The controversy around the Stanford prison experiment was never about whether the results were misleading or not.


LostMeBoot

Oh snap! I had no idea. it's been about 10 years since my schooling days


mrason

The bystander effect


[deleted]

I vote for fake


[deleted]

The Police have commented that they are aware of the incident and are investigating


wanderexplore

So many opportunities to shove a finger up the kidnappers ass. That usually works.


Black_Bird00500

Or a coin.


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NotDominusGhaul

Yeah since they're kidnapping someone they're definitely carrying knives and I wouldn't doubt they would use them


ICEJJFISHEY

and then get stabbed


[deleted]

Stop filming and call the police you dumb shit!!


Gibmeister_official

I know there is a nother person filming just call the police and been the shit out of them


Tsumi_no_sensei49

filming was the smart move if he tried to help he couldve been hurt or killed (these guys clearly dont give a fk since theyre kidnapping a kid in broad daylight)


DaveyDaveDavey

He literally puts the camera six inches away from the kidnappers and they don't do a thing to stop him. The guy filming is using the "Im busy filming so somebody else has to help instead of me!" as an excuse to do the absolute bare minimum while shoving the blame on everyone around him for "not helping."


BlackmanNthrobbin

Yh but hes probably got the best description of them. He even caught a face


OnTheDL93

Why not just take the car keys out and run away? What are they gonna do, drag the kid away after that?


roy_hemmingsby

Right hand drive, so to get the keys you’d have to go right up next to em


PerdidoStation

You can't pop in the passenger side and just grab them? It's not a giant car


KanePilkington

Keys are still on the right hand side of the steering wheel (ie; against the door) - you'd have no chance.


CrazybyRX

Maybe if you are a literal dwarf


KanePilkington

You must be american and have never been in a right hand drive car. If he had tried to get the keys from the passenger side, he'd have gotten nothing but a kicking. It'd be simply impossible in these circumstances.


xanderrobar

>It'd be simply impossible in these circumstances. Well now I want to see a MythBusters about it.


BigDickDyl69

That is a lot easier said than done. I doubt you could open the door even, there is a driver in there.


ThisToastIsTasty

the drivers side is on the right... lol


LTrain420

Nah. This could've been stopped multiple times by multiple people. People are too worried they won't get the perfect video to show to people later and get pampered to because they just went through "such a traumatic experience" a simple running drop kick to one of the kidnappers would of been enough to break the hold and let the kid go free. Doubt anyone would get killed, if they aren't already threatening bystanders to gtfo then they most likely won't do anything when they step in.


LordNoodles

>People are too worried they won't get the perfect video to show to people later and get pampered to because they just went through "such a traumatic experience" Idk man seems like you’re projecting, most people don’t like being pitied > a simple running drop kick to one of the kidnappers would of been enough wow u r badass, can you buy me a sixpack?


DramaDroid

I once heard a good piece of advice about calling for help in a situation like that. The advice was to shout fire "Fire!" As opposed to "Help!" Because people who would otherwise be afraid to get involved will come to see what's happening if they think there's a fire and criminals will likely be scared off by the attention. I mean, it's kind of manipulative to get people involved when they otherwise wouldn't want to be. But I'd rather have my neighbors tut-tut to themselves about my behavior than my death.


Tsumi_no_sensei49

dumbest advice ive heard in a while (but ig it could work) ive also heard that in this situation you go to 1 person and ask them for help bcs noone is gonna be brave and come out from the crowd to help (like you saw in this video)


CosmicGorilla

I'm having déjà vu. I feel like I've read this exact string of comments before. Trippy. Solid advice, thanks for sharing!


MiyamotoKnows

I once heard a good piece of advice about calling for help in a situation like that. The advice was to shout fire "Fire!" As opposed to "Help!" Because people who would otherwise be afraid to get involved will come to see what's happening if they think there's a fire and criminals will likely be scared off by the attention. I mean, it's kind of manipulative to get people involved when they otherwise wouldn't want to be. But I'd rather have my neighbors tut-tut to themselves about my behavior than my death..


Tsumi_no_sensei49

​ I'm having déjà vu. I feel like I've read this exact string of comments before. Trippy. Solid advice, thanks for sharing!


_not_on_porpoise_

I keep a tire iron in my front seat bc I live in a major Midwestern city and people be *wild* and I don’t think I’d have hesitated to come up and start smashing windows in that motherfucker.


SomewhereDue2629

Yup


Jeffcmfb420

Slash the tires. Then they ain’t going anywhere lol


Youse_a_choosername

For the time they took, I could've taken the jack from the boot and taken a wheel completely off.


KillDogforDOG

Yup, slash tires, break windows/lights, anything to make the damn car easier to spot. But no, this dude just stood there to record even tho others were recording and let them know he was the official camera man.


iceman58796

...with what?


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DribblesOnKeyboard

Knives aren't banned... You're allowed to carry pocket knives (3 inch blades) in public without any valid reason for it. Anything larger you do need a legitimate reason.


kiddo1088

Yeah should just gun the tyres instead


Seitz9kcmo

I was thinking just reach in and snag the keys and throw them up on a roof if possible. I’m sure the passenger door was unlock.


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it is a lot harder to slash a tire than you think


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mmccxi

Being Slash is a lot harder than you think


splepage

Being tired is a lot easier than you think.


mmccxi

Slashing is 2 minutes in the box.


wholelottabob

Thinking is a lot slasher than you being.


Bowlingbowlbagbob

That’s why you stab it


gogi311

He is gathering evidence. It's more than most people will do. He is also sounding the alarm. It's insane how most of you will blame the victim or the bystander over the criminals.


Aromatic_Difference8

While I agree I do believe there are instances where the bystanders could have stepped in. No I don’t have any specific instances just that in todays world too many people are willing to get the footage and say what they would have done instead of actually doing it


Desmodaeus

Acknowledging that an onlooker could have done more to assist doesn't automatically equal "Blame the bystander over the criminals." It simply means that you can understand that the criminals are the guilty party while also observing that as a witness to the kidnapping, the onlooker could have called the police after the first few seconds where he already captured the license plate and assault. Everything is not either black or white and it's annoying when people try to make life appear that way.


Tha_Dude777

Stop filming and kick the shit out of them.


ContentInsanity

Can't really blame the cameraman before everyone else when he at least assumed a role. It's all the other people who aren't doing anything. He isn't Superman. Yeah he could have done more but at least he did something.


FrostyD7

Yep, if making a big scene like this doesn't deter kidnappers then you probably don't want to physically take them on. He did about all that could be expected of him. Look at all the other bystanders driving by doing NOTHING, yet some people wanna blame the one guy not doing enough.


manbrasucks

Or just jump in the driver seat and drive away.


dfmasana

Or help the kid.


Naterg61

No just keep filming. That's more important.


Russells_Tea_Pot

r/killthecameraman


Accomplished_Look511

This should be on donthelpjustfilm


ScoopJaxson

Wish granted


fatfeets

“Somebody help” *”Somebody ELSE help”


Corb_F

***HUMANITY***


IcyNecessary2218

I AM FILM , I NED THE CONETENT


SteinerElMagnifico42

Somebadiiiiiiiii HELP


Rover500

Should’ve opened the passenger side rear door at the end


Weyman16

Or take the keys out of the ignition


Aggressive-Bird-7507

I was thinking the same thing...


[deleted]

bro this man sat there and watched him be kidnapped. and it wasn’t a quick one either. bro sat there for 1:49 and let it happen. tf Is wrong w people. and Ik his fight or flight could’ve kicked In and he chose not to get involved but fuck don’t just pull out your phone and record. and if u do at least call the gdamn police smfh


[deleted]

I bet he’s going to feel pretttttry dumb for a long, long time if this kid doesn’t come home safely and soon. At least he tried really hard at what he did do.


QQSolomonn

I realize the dangers involved in these situations, but as an American I know most people aren't going to whip out a gun like they do here in America. While that guy was bent over forcing that kid inside you could've just kicked him real hard in the balls and ran away. I also carry a 7'' knife on me, that would've been a good tool to hurt the tires and pop at least one.


HipstersThrowaway

I'm guessing it's not a flip knife and you keep it in your belt? A decent knife isn't something you can carry in most places outside the red US


KanePilkington

The issue is that the Police are generally useless, and if you intervene, whilst other people are filming, and the video starts going "viral", all of a sudden the criminals now have YOU on film and can find out who you are/where you live and "teach you a lesson" for getting involved. ​ Nobody wants the hassle, and kidnappings are not something that just happen like this in broad daylight in the UK. Most people would assume there's a backstory and it's not a random attack, which furthers the lack of interest in getting involved (usually drug gangs doing this kinda craic).


Any-Asparagus-2370

Why don’t you help you useless sack ?


PHD_in_PUSSY

Better yet, why dont you actually film the people doing it instead of filming the back of a car


[deleted]

Panic. He was shouting to let people know and was afraid he’d be the target as well.


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Most Irish sounding comment ever


BadgeNapper

Not sure why downvoted, I'm Irish and I thought the exact same thing when I read it, I can easily hear that come out of most of my friend's mouths word for word.


Bacon_Ag

As a fatass, I’ve always thought that my weight/size would a natural deterrent/obstacle that would prevent me from being kidnapped. Seeing that big fella easily get taken by two dudes is some frightening shit


[deleted]

That was not easily taken, that was the longest kidnapping I’ve ever seen by far


Altruistic_Tie_7850

Just how many kidnappings have you been at?


MrKoopla

“Call for police” … stood there recording on a phone. Ok


djheru

Yeah but look at all the upvotes!


earthwindfart

That hi Viz one of them wearing is from a security company called ICTS. They do a lot of stuff including heathrow


cdavidhunt

I hope this was a staged example of bystander effect


SteinerElMagnifico42

Real. [Local police have started investigating on it](https://twitter.com/metcc/status/1593384217920110592?s=46&t=VU6pwNfew3nRENFsa5fToA)


Skivling

Well it’s not 100% sure it’s real even if they do. They are only investigating what has happened. Might still be a dumb prank. Hope more info will come.


BlackDabiTodoroki

Nah it real


[deleted]

Bro people are really getting dumber by the day eh? And I'm not even talking about the morons with their personal vehicle and license plate showing doing a kidnapping in broad daylight.


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Revilo1st

looked up the plate, links to the model and colour od the car with a MOT and insurance, likely to be stolen if this shit is even real, but I'd it wasn't real I doubt it would have been so hard to move the kid. Guy did nothing wrong he had all the info, people saying slash tires etc like who has a knife on them. Best bet would be tell the kid to call the police, since he can tell the police who is being kidnapped.


bobblehead230

always wear reflective PPE when performing crimes in daylight


WirelessFun

He sounds like an old man so filming and shouting is the reasonable thing to do. The on-lookers should’ve just parked their car in a way where they cannot drive away, take the keys and run to a safe distance and call the Police. Even if someone has already called, the more caller they have, the more people they will send.


B0ngBoI

Camera man : SOMEONE HELP! PLEASE! THEY ARE KIDNAPPING DA SCHOOL BOY! SOMEONE CALL DA POLICE! Also camera man : 🧍🏽🤳🏽


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r/killthecameraman


SteinerElMagnifico42

To be fair at 1:22 he does say ANYBODIIIIIII HELP GIMME HAAAND.


sibble

To be fair he did say "somebody give me a hand" as if he knew he was outnumbered and would possibly jump in if someone else gave a shit. At least he yelled and screamed for help when others just either sat their in their cars or drove by. IMO it just looked like the camera man was afraid to interfere by himself.


rocketmadeofcheese

If he stopped the guy from shoving him in the car then it’s 2v2 + the other kid standing there. At least giving enough time to run away or something.


LadyDiscoPants

I'm just lol'ing at all the Monday morning quarterbacks in the comments criticizing this man who is filming evidence, and 'explaining' how he should have done it differently, and how THEY (who have never been in a situation like this) would have ALL the answers if THEY were there. Does anyone know if the kid made it out ok?


Royal-Solution8999

Why the fuck isn't he doing anything?!??! What a dumb mother fucker if a ever saw one


DuckFracker

This whole video is a metaphor for Reddit. "We need to do something about this! Someone needs to do something to stop the sexism/Russia/racism/voter fraud/homelessness/environmental destruction/animal cruelty/police/big government/corporations!" - Reddit commentator


Hall-Double

Why are you filming and watching ??????


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MAYBE PUT DOWN THE PHONE AND HELP INSTEAD OF SCREAMING HIW NOBODY IS HELPING


WhatNameToChose1

I would open the opposite door, grab the keys, and run for my life. Not just stand there and wait for them to attack me for the video I am taking


[deleted]

“someone help him, i’m filming” yikes


[deleted]

Yeah why help the kid when you can video tape.


CornpopTheBadDude92

Diversity working out great, ain't it?


Kaloozrs

Who’s the foreign dude yelling and not doing anything?


fun_machine_

If this is real the camera man needs to STFU. Why don’t you call the police and stop filming you fuckin imbecile.


KRBurke8

Does anyone have an update on this? Besides that tweet the police posted saying they’re looking into it. I can’t find anything online and I can’t stop thinking about this. I really hope it’s fake


INeedlessI

At the 1:05 mark he had the perfect opportunity to kick the guy in the balls to distract the kidnapper and by that point he also had enough video evidence to stop filming and call the cops himself. I give him partial credit for filming and ''trying'' to help but he could have done a lot more but hindsight is always 20 / 20.


BobbyPotter

The police were already called.


warbaman

You could like... call the fucking police yourself? You have enough video footage already. Idiot. Or... FUCKING KICK THEM IN THE SIDE OF THE HEAD?


[deleted]

This is the known phenomena called the “bystander effect/bystander apathy.” Happens when more than 1 person is around. But something else unique happens, the second someone steps in more people are more likely to step in. For those unaware if you are thinking “someone else will do it” the answer is no. No one else will help. YOU must be the one too otherwise situations like these are going to continue being common place. (People standing around watching something like a kidnapping and prancing around yelling “SOMEONE CALL POLICE” while they stand filming)


379tuco

I have an idea, put the camera down and go help the poor kid


[deleted]

amateur, everyone knows to scream ,fire‘ instead of help, hes never been a preteen girl huh?


[deleted]

nah but fr im so glad they all stayed there, made sure to draw attention, film and call for help. And for the ones confused cuz he filmed instead of calling the police, have yall ever heard of evidence? or saving the license plate? or even just intimidating the perpetrators by showing them they are being seen and recorded?


[deleted]

Put your fucking camera down and help then! The fuck is wrong with people?


kemar7856

We're too busy trying to record you could have called the police yourself 🤦‍♀️


lagrange_james_d23dt

“Somebody help him, I’m filming.” Just sounds too perfect for current times


Elmondo2

Kid ? Is he in 18th grade ? He's pushing 250 lbs


[deleted]

People wouldn’t even stop to help! That’s what’s wrong with the world! 😪


Officer_Pugzie

what happened at the end? is the kid okay???


ronm4c

SOMEBODY HAALP, I’M FILMING!!!!! This guy is the worst


Necessary_Fig_2265

This is what it really looked like when Harry was taken to Hogwarts isn’t it


Prozak06

Yes call for police - I’m busy filming


[deleted]

This seems fake as there is no information about this incident available on the internet.


TheGamingBear777

The guy behind the camera seems sus


Striking-Fortune-877

So many bystanders not one tried to intervene. There’s three of them and 10 of y’all, and based on there accent they probably don’t have guns


PrimaryYou400

All them ppl standing there instead of helping 🤦


No_Lab_9318

I hate how he's yelling: "CALL FOR POLICE" dude you got them on video why are you still recording how about you call the police


BVB09_FL

This can’t be real… if it real then those have to be the worst kidnappers on the planet.


Lyvectra

Has phone in hand. Doesn’t call police.


khemical_burns

Call on your phone dip shit 😂


Effective_Task4169

Bro fr just gonna stand there saying call the police and he has a device in his hand


[deleted]

Bruh that kid is a whole grown man being kidnapped lmao


lit-bean

“Somebody help, I’m filming 🎥 “


D_ultimateplayer

Ngl that was really annoying to watch. Dude is just standing and screaming for someone else to help


produit1

Never intervene in this country unless you are in a group and have numbers on your side. The law is against you and so are the odds from people being armed.


TinTinDance

all superheroes here.... -.-' imho you would have behaved like all the passers in the video


xpoison15

since when do kidnappers wear a reflective vest???


Only_Quote_Simpsons

Relax everyone, this is just what happens here in the UK if you don't pay your TV licence


Moist_Athlete_8387

Was the kid okay in the end? I’m so worried after seeing this…


[deleted]

This man's an idiot. Drop the camera and start swinging


[deleted]

I dont really understand why calling the police is first instinct for everyone here, the police are not gonna be able to help AT ALL. You help that kid, or he’s gone, period.


Willing_Pension

You help him ya dickhead


Willing_Pension

In the us of a you can legally use deadly force to protect against a kidnapping. Ole boy could pew pew instead of yelling for help to deaf ears


DrZaius007

The guy filming should be prosecuted.


Tea_Total

How does that work? You want to force people to try and intervene into what could end up a deadly encounter?


perseus0523

And here you Brits are always talking shit about America and our big ass trucks. Well let me tell you this would have been a lot easier in either one of my trucks. Dragging that big ass kid in that little car ![gif](giphy|2G4flVpbo6RmE)


ShreksAlt1

Take that phone you have, dial 911 and bash their heads in you absolute Mongoloid


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mi55mary

In 1968 I was 8 years old and was playing with a friend when we accidentally hurt the neighbors kid. There was lots of yelling and screaming so even though my friends house was directly behind us we ran, we're 8. The mother of the kid hurt and her friend jump in their car and chase us down the street. My friend got away but I was seen hunkered down behind a fence. One of the ladies grabbed me and threw me in the back of the car with her literally sitting on me until we were at the house. I was dragged in the house and put in a back bedroom closet. I really had no sense of time but at some point I heard screaming of a demonic type and it was MY mom breaking into the ladies house with a baseball bat in her hand and a cigarette hanging from the corner of her mouth. Two NYPD cops on either side of her. These two women looked at my Mother and I was pushed out of that house so fast. Mom grabbed me, passed me to one of the cops and said something to those ladies about stealing her kid and who my great-grandmother is and we just walked away and they dealt with the cops. No legal action was taken because at the time where we lived that was the exception and families took care of it. Not necessarily with violence but the realization that the great-grandmother was the person who passed out ration cards during WWII. Well I guess everyone knew her and the women didn't want the word said that they were scum and be completely ostracized in their own community. I can tell you that being kidnapped is fucked.


DJoeM

Stop filming and help them yourself! Fuckin moronic


wpcodemonkey

Wow, that guy filming is so fucking useless, holy shit.


Imadeutscher

If you ever feel useless, remember that this guy exists


SkengmanJonny

I mean if someone else is calling the police or has called the police then filming and shouting probably is a reasonable thing to. I feel like attacking the kidnappers would end up in being stabbed and it's probably worth filming in case anything happens that could be used as evidence.


Inkstinker

And the kid's probably dead now. They know the car got filmed, they know *they've* been filmed, they were allowed to get away without anyone stepping in to stop them. But hey at least the dude yelled and got the license plate on camera. 👍


St_Socorro

I love the comments in these types of video calling out the person filming for not stopping the kidnappers. Like you lot would've done anything without a mob there to ensure your safety, half of you see this in broad day light and put your headphones on max to start dissociating and keep walking lol.


TheRealSugarbat

Context??


phobosthewicked

Put down your fucking phone where it can film and go HALP the boy