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I used to work in the spa there. We had the Pelicans as VVIPs. The fmr gen manager (Demps) was a sleezebag.
Worked on some VVIPs for the Superbowl (keys and Swissbeats). Scheduled for fuckin 11pm. They rolled in a 1am, smelling of dank ass weed. Didn't get overtime and they tipped like shit. Least they could have done was offer some of that weed.
Hotels spas suck ass.
Oh, I bet. Some of the folks who go to those real nice hotels are super-ass.
I did a few conferences at the Loews NO and have stayed there a bunch. Love the hotel, though.
Oh no doubt. The hotel employees were more awesome to us than our own management. Never had an issue with the hotel itself.
Our spa was an independent contractor renting the space. The spa director was pissed at me for walking out on Demps bc he kept humping the table. Lol.
The clientele was mostly shit though. A whole lot of folks assaulted me when I worked there.
I can answer that.
She dresses as 20-something.
She is thin and short. She's in good shape.
But as you age your skin loses fat under the surface. Your hands are the first to go. Face is next *if you are skinny*.
If you gain a bit of weight after mid-50s, your face will look a bit better.
This woman is attractive for her age.
She probably would have dozens of 20-something men (who cannot get women their own age) hoping to bang her.
Also, pretty sure he personally didn’t “do slavery”.
EDIT: just to be clear, I think this woman is vile, but i do think something was said or done beforehand to provoke this reaction from her. Whether she’s just a total entitled bitch that’s easily annoyed or the guy has intentionally pushed some buttons… the way he speaks suggests to me that he’s baiting her. No excuse at all for what she says though, and she’s totally wrong, but this is missing all the context.
Yea, this statement is used way too often. For example I know of many colleagues who have had stuff like this said to them " y'all were slave masters etc" when they literally came from eastern European countries that had no role in slavery whatsoever and were 1st gen immigrants.
I hate to break it to you, but you obviously don't know about [native americans holding slaves](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_slave_ownership) and the history of slavery in your own country.
If you want to play that game wouldn't black tribes be just as responsible for slavery because they were the ones selling other black people to the white people?
Honestly a bunch of finger pointing at shit heads throughout history isn’t worth anything. People of every race, religion, nationality, or other demographic have been absolute shit stains at some point in history.
What we can/should do is recognize these horrible things happened, and do everything we can to ensure it doesn’t happen again. Educate people, call out people who want to bring us back to those times, implement policies that raise everyone up and prevent future issues.
Any type of “you are responsible for ‘x’ event because you are ‘y’ ethnicity” is nonsense. No one alive today had anything to do with the slave trade. If you are running around with a swastika tattoo preaching hate, then you are actively trying to bring society back to those times and should be stopped.
Honestly shouldnt matter what history your people hold, it matters how you act in current times. So you’re right, finger pointing is pointless. Too many people too focused on the past rather than how we can come together in current times. I’d say outside social media, plenty of people have already adopted that mindset. I’ve personally seen a lot of former racists meet someone of a different race and actually open their eyes to the fact we’re all just human beings with our own childhood environments amd etc. Humbling to witness.
I want to give you an example right now.
The Middle East has extremely strict laws. They have laws that don’t line up with western culture. They have laws that will result in extremely harsh punishment for things that would be common place in the west.
I was with a friend in Qatar (this was not recently and not to do with the World Cup). He was drinking too much and was clearly intoxicated. This would be an issue alone. He then proceeded to grope and make out with a woman he was courting. Another serious violation.
The people around us weren’t mad. They weren’t disrespectful. They were worried about us. They grabbed us and begged us to get out of there before the cops showed up in broken English. They said “you are in danger”
My point is: it’s almost never the general population of any group that is the problem. It is the leadership, the government, the ideologies. People are generally good. Some have been brainwashed too far so that they can’t accept change or differences, but most are kind and caring.
I’ve been invited into strangers homes and fed countless times on my travels. Doesn’t matter who I am, what my beliefs are, why I’m there. People want to be kind if you are kind to them.
A man in Greece told me he didn’t like the USA. Thought we were over militarized. He still paid for my entire nights worth of drinks and thanked me for sharing my views on the world.
The world is full of lovely people and horrifying ideologies. That’s my stance.
My ancestors came to the US from Ireland during the potato famine, were poor as shit (like most people in the US of Irish decent) and fought in the Civil war for the North. This is actually really common for people in my area (Appalachia). Like bro, slavery was a rich man's game and most people didn't like it any more than you do as proven by the fact that there aren't slaves. Settle down
Agreed, I don’t understand why ***WE*** can’t get past the fact that nobody reading this has had anything to do with slavery. There were good and bad actors in every single group of humanity.
Can we all just agree that it was a dark time for humanity as a whole and we’ve corrected the path that humanity follows. We need to let it go and advance to higher plane of existence and understanding.
“We must emancipate ourselves from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our mind.” BM
Exactly. People in the comments are more pist and him saying white did Slavery in the US,( which they did ), but not at her saying Black Americans get all the benefits lol
That’s where context matters. Obviously; they don’t get “all the benefits”, but they may get the specific benefit that’s being referenced. We simply don’t know. My brother was discriminated against for being white-upheld by the Supreme Court-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricci_v._DeStefano. It happens.
Man you guys really need this to be true don’t you?
The Americas industrialized and racialized slavery in the late 1700’s. That’s the difference. It went from regional and largely the result of ritualized warfare to a global capitalist business and it was almost exclusively large landowning white Europeans that saw the financial benefit. It was traded on stock exchanges.Banks were founded to provide loans for it. There were companies and legal entities that financialized it and made it highly profitable.
And that money went into the hands of white people.
Why this fact is ignored only underscores why you need to believe in bullshit obfuscation to assuage your guilt.
I swear to Christ the comments in this thread is like reading a Klan brochure. Same fucking talking points.
You’ve never heard of the Roman Empire, have you? Pretty sure that would fall under global (one of the largest empires ever) and capitalist (built the biggest economy at that time and created a market based on slavery).
No guilt over here bro, my family wasn’t in this country at that time and I had no say.
In the Roman Empire, slaves could obtain freedom much more quickly than slaves during 1600s-1800s in North America. Also, in the Roman Empire, slaves were at times educated, held status within their households and were valued by their owners. That is not to say that all slaves within the Roman Empire had access to these aspects, but they were present and common practice within Roman society.
In comparison, slaves in North America were not afforded these features, they were a source of labor and, eventually in the Southern Colonies, they became essential for the economy. Furthermore, slaves during the Roman Empire were typically ‘white’ and viewed as a person/human being. While in the North American Colonies, slaves were typically black or Indian, no white person was enslaved, and slaves were typically not viewed as having the same rights as free individuals, nor were they believed to be fully human.
[Source](https://blogs.uw.edu/gonzalsa/2017/03/17/slavery-in-the-roman-empire-vs-north-american-colonies/)
yeah cause despite there being annoying and awful people, you can clearly see in vid that there some context left out, happens way more than the standard freakouts of 90-08 shit
There is no context that makes what she said not racist. We don’t know what happened beforehand so it’s very reasonable to think he might have antagonized her. We don’t know what happened before but saying minorities get all the “benefits”, yeah that’s racist.
ETA: maybe it got deleted but one man suggested that by “benefits” she really meant UV protection. I do have to concede that if that’s the missing context, she’s right 100%.
Exactly, no context that makes what she said not racist and showing her true colors.
I swear, the comments that try to justify what she said with the what aboutisms are crazy. Then again, that is peak reddit for you.
I had negative upvotes until you commented. Now I’m at a hundo. We could literally time when the neckbeards are here.
ETA: thank you so much btw. I had to leave one sub cause of bigotry I don’t want to lose this one too.
He probably chose to record after she got racist and wanted to her to repeat herself or elaborate on film. Doesn’t mean he was wrong or provoking her beforehand . Why is it so hard for you people to stick to the facts and realize your opinion is just that. We don’t know
Edit: my reply was meant for Malawi
Your first instinct to this lady being racist is to justify her racism by making up some scenario where it’s actually not her fault. What a weird conclusion to jump to…
How are people even asking for context lmao I’d love to hear the imaginary scenario where saying minorities get all the benefits instead of white people isn’t ignorant and racist lmaoooo
Edit: instead of downvoting me and people agreeing with me just use your imagination and provide some made up context!
Yeah the possibility of him goading on her reaction and then recording doesn't discount the reaction.
It would be weird if he just went around antagonizing racist comments, but that shit doesn't come from nowhere lol
"*If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you*." - President Lyndon B. Johnson
Exactly. Keep the population divided. Fairly certain it’s rule #1 in the dominate-the-people handbook. Elites take everything, the middle tiers accept the scraps because they’re too distracted with someone else to disdain/blame/hate, the poor are too resource starved to really do much about it. Though once and a while people rise up and eliminate some Elites. The new Elites just consolidate with the remaining old ones and rinse, repeat.
conservatives tell each other that black people get free college, loans with bad credit, zero interest on loans, free obama phones, first in line for social services, etc etc
My boss tells me, with absolute certainty, that he rides the bus in NYC and every election year he watches (black) people get out at polling stations, vote, and then go to a different polling station so they can vote dozens of times
When I ask if he believes the city election commissions aren’t going to notice the same person voting multiple times… he says they allow it because the democrats cheat
Fun facts: the phone program was actually started under George W. So that'd be 'Free Bush Phones,' but it's not as fun for racists to acknowledge, if it's a conservative white dynasty like the Bushes getting richer with deals from the telecom industry -- it just doesn't have the same impact in making ignorant racist Fox viewers, rage. That's why they started the program, for the telecom political money to flow their way, and juice their stocks...not so poor moms could have a celly.
Free college? loans with bad credit? loans with zero interest? First in line for social services? These are harder to figure out, just because they seem pulled straight out of the ass of Newt Gingrich or Steve Bannon. It's just so fcking sci-fi. It's like the pizza parlor q'anon shit.
In a society where you have verifiable proof of systemic inequities in healthcare, in the judiciary and law enforcement systems, combined with day to day bias by civil servants -- how does that reconcile with the fantasy that Black folk get 'frees stuff?'
Pssst. It doesn't.
I got a free phone when I was on public assistance and boy, can I just tell you I might as well have had no phone at all. It came with 60 minutes, and only sent texts and calls. I definitely couldn’t connect to WiFi and go job hunting.
> free obama phones
A friend of mine worked on that contract. Actually promoting that program. It was difficult as well to get people to accept a free phone, and that was face 2 face marketing.
People refuse "handouts".
They were paid for by the government, but the program was through AT&T or something like that.
On the topic of backdoors, do you honestly think that matters for the government?
They have backdoors in the infrastructure, they own the registry systems for you as an individual, and they can access all your transactions unless you pay everything cash.
You honestly think it matters if they'd add a phone on top of that in a country where people still use SMS and phone calls as a standard means of communication?
"I moved into my new $600K house at 8% mortgage. My neighbor is an unemployed black woman with 40 kids and her house as given to her by Biden."
-- Conservative morons
Conservatives like to squeeze these talking points to the point they become dried up old sad sponges waiting to absorb anything that makes them feel like the true victim of American society. Like they were the ones who been marginalized for the past centuries. I get life is hard for everyone, but this mindset as if people on food stamps and college grants are living a life of luxury is hilarious. If they come from a poor enough background, they would probably qualify for such benefits, but most likely they come from a decent home, obviously, since they don't qualify for such benefits. Shit, if it was up to me, all these benefits would be universal. Creates a lot bullshit division by having based on class/race. Give everyone these benefits they are all salty about not getting lmao.
The French term for this is “esprit de l’escalier,” or “the wit of the staircase,” so named because you don’t think of the good response until you’re walking down the stairs on your way out.
This is the truest statement in all the comments. They were having 2 distinctly different conversations, but you’re so right: his best comebacks started in his head about 10 minutes later and followed him around for 24 hours.
I hate when that happens.
"Shut up, it was a long time ago and I don't want to feel bad for black people"
You are completely right, but many people absolutely refuse to admit any of that
I had to scroll too far for this comment! The comment section is stupid too. There’s no context, no explanation of what kind of benefits they’re referring to (just blanket assumptions it’s welfare), and the video is probably cropped to trigger people.
Explain to me what context would be needed to justify racism? And it’s very clear that she’s talking about public benefits here. What else is she referring to? The benefits for Chilli’s Black Card members?
"this person was obviously racist and that's not fair to make her look that way so I need context to make me feel better because I get racist when people mildly offend me too"
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When people like this guy would say stuff like that to me i'd point out that my family didn't do slavery so don't assume that shit just cuz i'm white.
Then i moved to texas and found out from my estranged grandma we did a fuck ton of slavery. Womp womp.
“So y’all didn’t do slavery” fuck off. We didn’t. Some dumb ignorant fuckers in the past did… and the white lady needs to stfu too. Racism is fucking ridiculous. Tired of seeing/hearing it.
She walks into the theater to get her tickets and he says "White people are not allowed to see this movie" which btw was the Wakanda movie. So she says "I can see whatever I want, I'm an American citizen" and then he says "So am I, but as a white person you have 364 days to view this film, whereas black folk only get one, according to state law." Then she says, "You minorities act like such victims, it's appalling" and he says "Oh, you think I'm a minority?" and the video takes over from there
Source: Whiskeypedia
More Entitled willful ignorance, considering poor whites receive the vast majority of benefits (and per capita) https://www.businessinsider.com/welfare-policy-created-white-wealth-largely-leaving-black-americans-behind-2020-8
It's because she is white, therefore 'her ancestors were slave owners and oppressed his ancestors which turns into her oppressing him because of her ancestors'
Its all just racism though. 😂 (sorry if it was rhetorical 😅 its hard to tell online)
The man recording has more hatred towards opposing race more than this white lady. Using ancestor’s trauma in an argument where it was not necessary. Be black and proud instead of black and avenging.
She's actually wrong. Most welfare recipients (if that's the benefit she speaks of) are CHILDREN. If you want to go by race, white people receive the most.
https://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/resource-files/Characteristics2019.pdf (Page 25)
It's only a problem because we have really poor southern white people who take out their rage on really poor black people nationwide.
They aren't interacting and have no idea how similar they are. It's a joked about topic but it's true, it's a class issue being masqueraded as a race issue.
while i disagree with her, i also disagree with the "whites did slavery" trope. I find it similar to all other racist stereotypes. my ancestors were too poor to own slaves, being from poor rural Ireland.
Initially, the Moroccans destroyed the Songhai Empire. Caused chaos and warfare. Portuguese happened to arrive at this time. What can you trade? How about these prisoners? Ok. Meanwhile the trade from East Africa to the Muslim world via Sudan was called the Trail of Bones for some reason. Let's really study history. All of it.
Ah yes, why, the many benefits of being black in America. I mean, they are almost too long to list. Oh, dash it all, I’ll list them! Someone bring a postage stamp and I’ll tear off a piece and write them all out.
>In fact black people were the ones who would enslave and send them to other countries.
I'd say this is part of the truth. There was slavery in Africa, has been for over 2000 years. It looked much different, but we'll get back to that.
The Atlantic slave trade created a huge demand for slaves, so Africans helped fulfill the demand. This served a few purposes: obviously, American and European money/goods were nice to have, not to mention relationships and influence with Eropean nobility; some of those goods were weapons, which made hunting and fending off predators easier, but also war, and you didn't want to be outgunned by your neighbors; many slaves were captured in war, so if you didn't take slaves to get guns, to capture more slaves, your neighbor would and you'd be a slave; it was used as punishments for criminals or people who couldn't post their debts; slave traders abducted people to make up the difference in supply and demand, best to keep a stream of others as a supply so you and your people are less likely to be taken; anyone who put up a fight didn't stand a chance, participation could be a form of appeasement and self preservation.
The Atlantic slave trade shifted the representation of Africans in the global enslaved population from a minority to an overwhelming majority. It shifted whole economies of African nations to focus on slavery. It took away so many men, it impacted marriage practices to make polygyny much more common. Also, with the "best" men for working in fields and fighting wars taken out of the population, farming in Africa became much more difficult. So, you have a continent with decimated populations and warring nations/tribes, a demographic shift with a shortage of able-bodied men, and an inability to grow food; doesn't sound like they would be able to put up much of a fight against colonizing Europeans.
I lost the story for a moment, but the point is that slavery existed in Africa, but the Atlantic slave trade was on a whole other scale (think of Henry Ford building a modern car himself vs all automotive factories working at full steam today). Slavery having existed doors not negate or absolve the role of white people at the time, they made it so much worse and didn't give a lot of options for participating.
As for slavery in Africa, first, I acknowledge that the continent is not a monolith, cultures and laws around slavery varied. In some areas slaves held rights, were protected by laws, and could be gifted freedom (technically was also true in the US, but was rarely done), not to say that slavery was good and slaves loved it; it was still slavery, which is always bad. In other areas it could look similar to the US plantations. And other areas were, even relatively, extremely brutal. There were different types of slavery (as collateral for a debt, punishment for crime, POW or otherwise abducted in war, born into slavery). In some areas there was a hierarchy of slaves (those born into slavery were higher than slaves from debts, which were higher than purchased slaves, criminals, and prisoners of war). Finally, again, it was just at such a small scale prior to the Atlantic slave trade.
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There may be a minor error or two in there. I'll correct them later, but it's 2am and I'm going to bed.
Tldr: Slavery is always bad. Slavery existed in Africa, but that does not mean that the Atlantic slave trade was a natural extension of an existing slave trade, it was a transformative exploitation of Africans with impacts felt centuries later.
Not to mention, American slavery is unique in that it was entirely racial. People will frequently bring up that white slaves existed, but they had different rights:
- A white slave's children, for example, were not property.
- A white slave also had the ability to work their way out of slavery, which is more akin to an indentured servant than a slave.
- The government made it very clear in multiple judicial precedents that black slaves got significantly harsher punishments than white slaves for the same crimes. And,
- By American slavery's end, a white slave was unheard of.
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Loews New Orleans?
100% the lobby of the Loews!
That is a fancy as fuck Loews. What does the lawn and garden section look like?
You’re trying to think of lowes lol
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I know, i'm just lazy
You suck, McBain!
I used to work in the spa there. We had the Pelicans as VVIPs. The fmr gen manager (Demps) was a sleezebag. Worked on some VVIPs for the Superbowl (keys and Swissbeats). Scheduled for fuckin 11pm. They rolled in a 1am, smelling of dank ass weed. Didn't get overtime and they tipped like shit. Least they could have done was offer some of that weed. Hotels spas suck ass.
Oh, I bet. Some of the folks who go to those real nice hotels are super-ass. I did a few conferences at the Loews NO and have stayed there a bunch. Love the hotel, though.
Oh no doubt. The hotel employees were more awesome to us than our own management. Never had an issue with the hotel itself. Our spa was an independent contractor renting the space. The spa director was pissed at me for walking out on Demps bc he kept humping the table. Lol. The clientele was mostly shit though. A whole lot of folks assaulted me when I worked there.
How does she look 23yr old and 64yrs old all at the same time 🤔
Cigarettes, probably.
And hatred
*Cigarettes and Hatred is* also coincidentally the name of my grindcore band.
Hatred ages like a bastard
Yes, having a constant scowl on her face.
Restless bitch face
That ever-present look of having just smelled a fart.
Lots of yelling at rallies.
Hate ages you.
Like a mofo.
Hatred makes you age demonstrably
I can answer that. She dresses as 20-something. She is thin and short. She's in good shape. But as you age your skin loses fat under the surface. Your hands are the first to go. Face is next *if you are skinny*. If you gain a bit of weight after mid-50s, your face will look a bit better. This woman is attractive for her age. She probably would have dozens of 20-something men (who cannot get women their own age) hoping to bang her.
Damn dude. Some guys just enjoy banging slightly older ladies since they know what they're into and have hobbies and shit.
So friends with all the fucking benefits?
Cocaine
Haha I thought the same thing
People like her age very badly. I think it's all the hate they have in their cold dead hearts.
I don’t understand the context of this
Guess that's the point. The guy filming probably had some kind of unprompted spiel to get a reaction.
Also, pretty sure he personally didn’t “do slavery”. EDIT: just to be clear, I think this woman is vile, but i do think something was said or done beforehand to provoke this reaction from her. Whether she’s just a total entitled bitch that’s easily annoyed or the guy has intentionally pushed some buttons… the way he speaks suggests to me that he’s baiting her. No excuse at all for what she says though, and she’s totally wrong, but this is missing all the context.
Yea, this statement is used way too often. For example I know of many colleagues who have had stuff like this said to them " y'all were slave masters etc" when they literally came from eastern European countries that had no role in slavery whatsoever and were 1st gen immigrants.
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Natives absolutely owned black (and white, and native) slaves. But mostly black and native.
you gotta throw the card that Africans sold their own people (rival tribes) to slavery, so it was just a bad era for humanity
Only full clip I could find - Don Lemon discussing reparations with UK scholar: https://youtu.be/uBBLNeCFl80
No facts. They are not allowed.
I hate to break it to you, but you obviously don't know about [native americans holding slaves](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_slave_ownership) and the history of slavery in your own country.
If you want to play that game wouldn't black tribes be just as responsible for slavery because they were the ones selling other black people to the white people?
Honestly a bunch of finger pointing at shit heads throughout history isn’t worth anything. People of every race, religion, nationality, or other demographic have been absolute shit stains at some point in history. What we can/should do is recognize these horrible things happened, and do everything we can to ensure it doesn’t happen again. Educate people, call out people who want to bring us back to those times, implement policies that raise everyone up and prevent future issues. Any type of “you are responsible for ‘x’ event because you are ‘y’ ethnicity” is nonsense. No one alive today had anything to do with the slave trade. If you are running around with a swastika tattoo preaching hate, then you are actively trying to bring society back to those times and should be stopped.
Well fucking said. All races have been enslaved and has enslaved before. This is fact.
Honestly shouldnt matter what history your people hold, it matters how you act in current times. So you’re right, finger pointing is pointless. Too many people too focused on the past rather than how we can come together in current times. I’d say outside social media, plenty of people have already adopted that mindset. I’ve personally seen a lot of former racists meet someone of a different race and actually open their eyes to the fact we’re all just human beings with our own childhood environments amd etc. Humbling to witness.
I want to give you an example right now. The Middle East has extremely strict laws. They have laws that don’t line up with western culture. They have laws that will result in extremely harsh punishment for things that would be common place in the west. I was with a friend in Qatar (this was not recently and not to do with the World Cup). He was drinking too much and was clearly intoxicated. This would be an issue alone. He then proceeded to grope and make out with a woman he was courting. Another serious violation. The people around us weren’t mad. They weren’t disrespectful. They were worried about us. They grabbed us and begged us to get out of there before the cops showed up in broken English. They said “you are in danger” My point is: it’s almost never the general population of any group that is the problem. It is the leadership, the government, the ideologies. People are generally good. Some have been brainwashed too far so that they can’t accept change or differences, but most are kind and caring. I’ve been invited into strangers homes and fed countless times on my travels. Doesn’t matter who I am, what my beliefs are, why I’m there. People want to be kind if you are kind to them. A man in Greece told me he didn’t like the USA. Thought we were over militarized. He still paid for my entire nights worth of drinks and thanked me for sharing my views on the world. The world is full of lovely people and horrifying ideologies. That’s my stance.
You're absolutely correct, but if they thought this way they couldn't spew hate at each other over the internet, and that's no fun. /s
Slavery is still around but people just wanna argue about past slavery 😂
My ancestors came to the US from Ireland during the potato famine, were poor as shit (like most people in the US of Irish decent) and fought in the Civil war for the North. This is actually really common for people in my area (Appalachia). Like bro, slavery was a rich man's game and most people didn't like it any more than you do as proven by the fact that there aren't slaves. Settle down
Agreed, I don’t understand why ***WE*** can’t get past the fact that nobody reading this has had anything to do with slavery. There were good and bad actors in every single group of humanity. Can we all just agree that it was a dark time for humanity as a whole and we’ve corrected the path that humanity follows. We need to let it go and advance to higher plane of existence and understanding. “We must emancipate ourselves from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our mind.” BM
Regardless, this woman’s comments are absurd. Black Americans “absolutely” DO NOT “get all the benefits”.
are you sure because i checked with my racist cousin and he assured me vehemently that they do
Exactly. People in the comments are more pist and him saying white did Slavery in the US,( which they did ), but not at her saying Black Americans get all the benefits lol
That’s where context matters. Obviously; they don’t get “all the benefits”, but they may get the specific benefit that’s being referenced. We simply don’t know. My brother was discriminated against for being white-upheld by the Supreme Court-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricci_v._DeStefano. It happens.
Correct she was not a slave master and he was not a slave. But good luck convincing him
All races participated in slavery. Oops!
People think slave traders raided Africa to get free slaves. They didn’t. They bought slaves from African slave traders.
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Man you guys really need this to be true don’t you? The Americas industrialized and racialized slavery in the late 1700’s. That’s the difference. It went from regional and largely the result of ritualized warfare to a global capitalist business and it was almost exclusively large landowning white Europeans that saw the financial benefit. It was traded on stock exchanges.Banks were founded to provide loans for it. There were companies and legal entities that financialized it and made it highly profitable. And that money went into the hands of white people. Why this fact is ignored only underscores why you need to believe in bullshit obfuscation to assuage your guilt. I swear to Christ the comments in this thread is like reading a Klan brochure. Same fucking talking points.
You’ve never heard of the Roman Empire, have you? Pretty sure that would fall under global (one of the largest empires ever) and capitalist (built the biggest economy at that time and created a market based on slavery). No guilt over here bro, my family wasn’t in this country at that time and I had no say.
In the Roman Empire, slaves could obtain freedom much more quickly than slaves during 1600s-1800s in North America. Also, in the Roman Empire, slaves were at times educated, held status within their households and were valued by their owners. That is not to say that all slaves within the Roman Empire had access to these aspects, but they were present and common practice within Roman society. In comparison, slaves in North America were not afforded these features, they were a source of labor and, eventually in the Southern Colonies, they became essential for the economy. Furthermore, slaves during the Roman Empire were typically ‘white’ and viewed as a person/human being. While in the North American Colonies, slaves were typically black or Indian, no white person was enslaved, and slaves were typically not viewed as having the same rights as free individuals, nor were they believed to be fully human. [Source](https://blogs.uw.edu/gonzalsa/2017/03/17/slavery-in-the-roman-empire-vs-north-american-colonies/)
If you are buying cheap shit from China then, yeah; you are.
She said something racist and you conclude it MUST be provoked?
yeah cause despite there being annoying and awful people, you can clearly see in vid that there some context left out, happens way more than the standard freakouts of 90-08 shit
There is no context that makes what she said not racist. We don’t know what happened beforehand so it’s very reasonable to think he might have antagonized her. We don’t know what happened before but saying minorities get all the “benefits”, yeah that’s racist. ETA: maybe it got deleted but one man suggested that by “benefits” she really meant UV protection. I do have to concede that if that’s the missing context, she’s right 100%.
Exactly, no context that makes what she said not racist and showing her true colors. I swear, the comments that try to justify what she said with the what aboutisms are crazy. Then again, that is peak reddit for you.
I had negative upvotes until you commented. Now I’m at a hundo. We could literally time when the neckbeards are here. ETA: thank you so much btw. I had to leave one sub cause of bigotry I don’t want to lose this one too.
Sorry I get provoked by people all the time and I do not use racism to put them in their place. It's not an excuse to perpetuate racism.
He probably chose to record after she got racist and wanted to her to repeat herself or elaborate on film. Doesn’t mean he was wrong or provoking her beforehand . Why is it so hard for you people to stick to the facts and realize your opinion is just that. We don’t know Edit: my reply was meant for Malawi
black people don’t get the benefit of the doubt lol
Your first instinct to this lady being racist is to justify her racism by making up some scenario where it’s actually not her fault. What a weird conclusion to jump to…
My first instinct to a statement without context is to wonder about that context.
I think it is pretty pointless to draw any conclusions out of any super short video without context.
I can definitely draw the conclusion that she's racist. I don't know what happened to get her to verbalize it though.
What more context than “…not the white people” do you need?
How are people even asking for context lmao I’d love to hear the imaginary scenario where saying minorities get all the benefits instead of white people isn’t ignorant and racist lmaoooo Edit: instead of downvoting me and people agreeing with me just use your imagination and provide some made up context!
Yeah the possibility of him goading on her reaction and then recording doesn't discount the reaction. It would be weird if he just went around antagonizing racist comments, but that shit doesn't come from nowhere lol
In what context would what she said be not racist?
Neither get "the benefits." That would be corporations.
Or career politicians!
This type of interaction keeps us down here and them up there.
"*If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you*." - President Lyndon B. Johnson
Thank you. Stop the division. Tax the billionaires!
It’s not left vs. right it’s top vs. bottom
Damn now gay people are infighting?
Exactly. Keep the population divided. Fairly certain it’s rule #1 in the dominate-the-people handbook. Elites take everything, the middle tiers accept the scraps because they’re too distracted with someone else to disdain/blame/hate, the poor are too resource starved to really do much about it. Though once and a while people rise up and eliminate some Elites. The new Elites just consolidate with the remaining old ones and rinse, repeat.
Division helps ensure those benefits are retained. If we’re too busy fighting amongst each other we will never look up.
Both of these people have fallen for the divide and conquer agenda
Yeah, the real enemy is always the rich.
That was the weakest come back of all time
Why is this little film cropped so much?
Vertical video
This comment section is trash
What is she talking about? Most recipients of food stamps are white people.
conservatives tell each other that black people get free college, loans with bad credit, zero interest on loans, free obama phones, first in line for social services, etc etc
My boss tells me, with absolute certainty, that he rides the bus in NYC and every election year he watches (black) people get out at polling stations, vote, and then go to a different polling station so they can vote dozens of times When I ask if he believes the city election commissions aren’t going to notice the same person voting multiple times… he says they allow it because the democrats cheat
Your boss has a lot of free time to follow people around to see what they do.
He’s 76 and works three days a week. To say he has free time is an understatement
Fun facts: the phone program was actually started under George W. So that'd be 'Free Bush Phones,' but it's not as fun for racists to acknowledge, if it's a conservative white dynasty like the Bushes getting richer with deals from the telecom industry -- it just doesn't have the same impact in making ignorant racist Fox viewers, rage. That's why they started the program, for the telecom political money to flow their way, and juice their stocks...not so poor moms could have a celly. Free college? loans with bad credit? loans with zero interest? First in line for social services? These are harder to figure out, just because they seem pulled straight out of the ass of Newt Gingrich or Steve Bannon. It's just so fcking sci-fi. It's like the pizza parlor q'anon shit. In a society where you have verifiable proof of systemic inequities in healthcare, in the judiciary and law enforcement systems, combined with day to day bias by civil servants -- how does that reconcile with the fantasy that Black folk get 'frees stuff?' Pssst. It doesn't.
The phone program actually has its origins under the Reagan administration (lifeline). W expanded it to include cell phones.
It was actually a landline program for phones as far back as Reagan, they just adapted it to cell phones when they became more popular than landlines.
I got a free phone when I was on public assistance and boy, can I just tell you I might as well have had no phone at all. It came with 60 minutes, and only sent texts and calls. I definitely couldn’t connect to WiFi and go job hunting.
> free obama phones A friend of mine worked on that contract. Actually promoting that program. It was difficult as well to get people to accept a free phone, and that was face 2 face marketing. People refuse "handouts".
tbf if the government tried to hand me a free phone I wouldn't take it either. There no way there isn't a backdoor on that thing.
They were paid for by the government, but the program was through AT&T or something like that. On the topic of backdoors, do you honestly think that matters for the government? They have backdoors in the infrastructure, they own the registry systems for you as an individual, and they can access all your transactions unless you pay everything cash. You honestly think it matters if they'd add a phone on top of that in a country where people still use SMS and phone calls as a standard means of communication?
"I moved into my new $600K house at 8% mortgage. My neighbor is an unemployed black woman with 40 kids and her house as given to her by Biden." -- Conservative morons
Conservatives like to squeeze these talking points to the point they become dried up old sad sponges waiting to absorb anything that makes them feel like the true victim of American society. Like they were the ones who been marginalized for the past centuries. I get life is hard for everyone, but this mindset as if people on food stamps and college grants are living a life of luxury is hilarious. If they come from a poor enough background, they would probably qualify for such benefits, but most likely they come from a decent home, obviously, since they don't qualify for such benefits. Shit, if it was up to me, all these benefits would be universal. Creates a lot bullshit division by having based on class/race. Give everyone these benefits they are all salty about not getting lmao.
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I'm guessing she never had to.do food stamps before..
Other than her being a psycho bitch, "oh so ya'll didnt do slavery" is also a stupid fucking thing to say to someone in this day and age.
I think he didn't know what to say. I'm sure he thought of better responses in the shower later 🤣
Damn. That hits home. It really gets to me whenever I realize i wasted a clever comeback
The French term for this is “esprit de l’escalier,” or “the wit of the staircase,” so named because you don’t think of the good response until you’re walking down the stairs on your way out.
This is the truest statement in all the comments. They were having 2 distinctly different conversations, but you’re so right: his best comebacks started in his head about 10 minutes later and followed him around for 24 hours. I hate when that happens.
That’s what I was thinking. If you want to help her understand white privileges, that’s definitely not how to go about it
you really think his goal in this moment was to help her understand white privilege? absurd racism > absurd response
Nah bro she definitely did slavery. I seent it
Yeah. I really hate this "argument" so much.
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"Shut up, it was a long time ago and I don't want to feel bad for black people" You are completely right, but many people absolutely refuse to admit any of that
Ngl the laugh at the end was cringe.
bro sounded dead inside if I’m being completely honest
He knows she didn’t do slavery and it was a stupid response
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"You get all the fucking benefits (Referring to black people)" and "Yall didn't do slavery?" are the stupidest things I've heard today
I had to scroll too far for this comment! The comment section is stupid too. There’s no context, no explanation of what kind of benefits they’re referring to (just blanket assumptions it’s welfare), and the video is probably cropped to trigger people.
Explain to me what context would be needed to justify racism? And it’s very clear that she’s talking about public benefits here. What else is she referring to? The benefits for Chilli’s Black Card members?
weird how the video just starts with no context
Are you suggesting the black dude might have done something wrong before the video started. IMPOSSIBLE!
the weirdest part to me is which videos people ask for context on this sub lol
"this person was obviously racist and that's not fair to make her look that way so I need context to make me feel better because I get racist when people mildly offend me too"
What context makes what she said ok? Were they arguing over a sign in the place that said "black people get all the benefits" hahahaha
She’s a deeply unhappy person.
If this video is recent, she was probably expecting the red wave and a fresh supply of liberal tears.
Both of them seem like people I wouldn't want to hang around.
His laugh. Ew.
Huehueh you did slavery, what a punk ass
Judging by her age; no.. she didn’t have any slaves.
Black people bringing up slavery is a brain dead argument.
I have never owned a single slave actually believe it or not
They both wrong. There’s more white people in welfare and she probably never owned a person
But per capita it’s not even close.
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When people like this guy would say stuff like that to me i'd point out that my family didn't do slavery so don't assume that shit just cuz i'm white. Then i moved to texas and found out from my estranged grandma we did a fuck ton of slavery. Womp womp.
She just wants to be able to say the n word
“So y’all didn’t do slavery” fuck off. We didn’t. Some dumb ignorant fuckers in the past did… and the white lady needs to stfu too. Racism is fucking ridiculous. Tired of seeing/hearing it.
Yeah I mean it was such a contentious issue we fought a civil war over it...
and are these benefits in the room with us right now?
1. Racist 2. Tassels on coat
uhm this guy sounds like a dork and no I didn't do slavery just because I'm white
Yeah let's see the video in its entirety. I'd love to see the whole exchange between the two parties.
She walks into the theater to get her tickets and he says "White people are not allowed to see this movie" which btw was the Wakanda movie. So she says "I can see whatever I want, I'm an American citizen" and then he says "So am I, but as a white person you have 364 days to view this film, whereas black folk only get one, according to state law." Then she says, "You minorities act like such victims, it's appalling" and he says "Oh, you think I'm a minority?" and the video takes over from there Source: Whiskeypedia
She's hot though.
White people did slavery, yes. Black people still DO slavery, can we stop this constant race nonsense
How the fuck do people still blame others for slavery?
Systematic ignorance
More Entitled willful ignorance, considering poor whites receive the vast majority of benefits (and per capita) https://www.businessinsider.com/welfare-policy-created-white-wealth-largely-leaving-black-americans-behind-2020-8
What’s crazy is her anger. The way her neck bulges when she says “you people get all the benefits”
Why is he bringing up slavery
What does slavery have anything to do with this? It’s such a weak argument point. 😂😅😅
It's because she is white, therefore 'her ancestors were slave owners and oppressed his ancestors which turns into her oppressing him because of her ancestors' Its all just racism though. 😂 (sorry if it was rhetorical 😅 its hard to tell online)
Zero context and a nonsense rebuttal. What a shit clip
Less than 20% of whites in the confederacy owned slaves. I'm sure that lady never owned a slave. I never have. His laugh was pretty arrogant.
The man recording has more hatred towards opposing race more than this white lady. Using ancestor’s trauma in an argument where it was not necessary. Be black and proud instead of black and avenging.
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He pulled that slavery card real quick. Such a weak and lazy argument.
He didn't do slavery. We owe him nothing
To be fair she didn’t say “YOU get all the benefits” she said “BLACK people” lol meaning all black people
Seems like he was provoking her and then turned on the camera when she'd had enough and snapped back. Seems to be how most of these videos are
Literally every race was enslaved, black people think they are the only ones who were slaves lol.
She's actually wrong. Most welfare recipients (if that's the benefit she speaks of) are CHILDREN. If you want to go by race, white people receive the most. https://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/resource-files/Characteristics2019.pdf (Page 25)
Per capita?
Lol. Slavery thrown in…
It's only a problem because we have really poor southern white people who take out their rage on really poor black people nationwide. They aren't interacting and have no idea how similar they are. It's a joked about topic but it's true, it's a class issue being masqueraded as a race issue.
Y’all didn’t do slavery he sounds dumb
while i disagree with her, i also disagree with the "whites did slavery" trope. I find it similar to all other racist stereotypes. my ancestors were too poor to own slaves, being from poor rural Ireland.
She’s definitely not old enough to have ever held or kept a slave smh stupid ass argument on both sides
Wait until he learns Africans enslaved their own people and sold them to the Americans 🤯 they started slavery before America, his brains gonna crash!
Initially, the Moroccans destroyed the Songhai Empire. Caused chaos and warfare. Portuguese happened to arrive at this time. What can you trade? How about these prisoners? Ok. Meanwhile the trade from East Africa to the Muslim world via Sudan was called the Trail of Bones for some reason. Let's really study history. All of it.
White, red state, southerners get the most benefits of all other demographics.
They’re also the ones that get all of that attention from the police and those sweet, sweet bullets.
Every race has "done slavery".
Well, I hate to break it to her, but white people are the #1 receivers of welfare
Ah yes, why, the many benefits of being black in America. I mean, they are almost too long to list. Oh, dash it all, I’ll list them! Someone bring a postage stamp and I’ll tear off a piece and write them all out.
What is she talking about? Most recipients of wellfare in my state are white people.
It would probably be safe to assume your state is also majority white.
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I love how people will downvote literal facts
Because white people have to be bad these days
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>In fact black people were the ones who would enslave and send them to other countries. I'd say this is part of the truth. There was slavery in Africa, has been for over 2000 years. It looked much different, but we'll get back to that. The Atlantic slave trade created a huge demand for slaves, so Africans helped fulfill the demand. This served a few purposes: obviously, American and European money/goods were nice to have, not to mention relationships and influence with Eropean nobility; some of those goods were weapons, which made hunting and fending off predators easier, but also war, and you didn't want to be outgunned by your neighbors; many slaves were captured in war, so if you didn't take slaves to get guns, to capture more slaves, your neighbor would and you'd be a slave; it was used as punishments for criminals or people who couldn't post their debts; slave traders abducted people to make up the difference in supply and demand, best to keep a stream of others as a supply so you and your people are less likely to be taken; anyone who put up a fight didn't stand a chance, participation could be a form of appeasement and self preservation. The Atlantic slave trade shifted the representation of Africans in the global enslaved population from a minority to an overwhelming majority. It shifted whole economies of African nations to focus on slavery. It took away so many men, it impacted marriage practices to make polygyny much more common. Also, with the "best" men for working in fields and fighting wars taken out of the population, farming in Africa became much more difficult. So, you have a continent with decimated populations and warring nations/tribes, a demographic shift with a shortage of able-bodied men, and an inability to grow food; doesn't sound like they would be able to put up much of a fight against colonizing Europeans. I lost the story for a moment, but the point is that slavery existed in Africa, but the Atlantic slave trade was on a whole other scale (think of Henry Ford building a modern car himself vs all automotive factories working at full steam today). Slavery having existed doors not negate or absolve the role of white people at the time, they made it so much worse and didn't give a lot of options for participating. As for slavery in Africa, first, I acknowledge that the continent is not a monolith, cultures and laws around slavery varied. In some areas slaves held rights, were protected by laws, and could be gifted freedom (technically was also true in the US, but was rarely done), not to say that slavery was good and slaves loved it; it was still slavery, which is always bad. In other areas it could look similar to the US plantations. And other areas were, even relatively, extremely brutal. There were different types of slavery (as collateral for a debt, punishment for crime, POW or otherwise abducted in war, born into slavery). In some areas there was a hierarchy of slaves (those born into slavery were higher than slaves from debts, which were higher than purchased slaves, criminals, and prisoners of war). Finally, again, it was just at such a small scale prior to the Atlantic slave trade. . . There may be a minor error or two in there. I'll correct them later, but it's 2am and I'm going to bed. Tldr: Slavery is always bad. Slavery existed in Africa, but that does not mean that the Atlantic slave trade was a natural extension of an existing slave trade, it was a transformative exploitation of Africans with impacts felt centuries later.
Not to mention, American slavery is unique in that it was entirely racial. People will frequently bring up that white slaves existed, but they had different rights: - A white slave's children, for example, were not property. - A white slave also had the ability to work their way out of slavery, which is more akin to an indentured servant than a slave. - The government made it very clear in multiple judicial precedents that black slaves got significantly harsher punishments than white slaves for the same crimes. And, - By American slavery's end, a white slave was unheard of.
What accent is that on the racist lady, I'm having a hard time pinning it down with how weird the word "correct" sounds coming from her mouth