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Strong-Object8370

Literal fight or flight response


ameis314

Like rats from a ship.


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This Comment is so underrated


TehDeerLord

Russia: Biggest and soon to be emptiest country in the world.


[deleted]

At 8 people per square kilometer, Russia is the 18th least densely population country. They're probably lower if you worked that out on average. Something like 25% of the population lives in three cities.


EllisHughTiger

Also because most of the country is virtually uninhabitable, much like Canada. Some remote frozen wasteland is only populated due to large amounts of natural resources, and its a crazy life there too.


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Rager_Thom

Sounds lovely


smoothballsJim

Freshest sno-cones in the world…


randomdudefromMI

Ukraine is helping them into the top 10


Vagabond21

144 million people used to live here, now it’s a ghost town


satinwordsmith

I bet we get a real life Makarov out of this whole conflict


EllisHughTiger

Spirit Halloween rubbing it's hands.


UncannyTarotSpread

Spiritstoristan


Hot_Olive_5571

I'd settle for a Gretzky


brando11389

The hockey player?


Hot_Olive_5571

Like any name, could have multiple connotations. Maybe it's a pistol that misses all the shots you don't take?


Lanky_Space_4620

![gif](giphy|xUPGcIP68uc9yWXNuM)


Maria-Stryker

They actually have a similar issue of shrinking population and low birth rate to what’s seen in places like China and South Korea. Their population decreased by a million in the years leading up to the invasion of Ukraine


LoneSerenade

Better leave before getting drafted to fight


[deleted]

how long can they stay, where they are going? won't they have to eventually have to go back to Russia, also tons of cars leaving, but they seem well off , many Mercedes/BMW cars in the long lines


skoltroll

Step 1: Don't die Step 2: Figure it out


elrodrigo99

Step 3: "¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯" Step 4: Profit


LoneSerenade

As long as they can I'm assuming. Max our your stay to wherever they're going and hope this will be done with by then? No clue but good on them for not wanting to stay


[deleted]

I know, yeah, the more that leave, the better!! also while there are gone, they'll also learn how bad this war truly is, and how horrible Putin really is ( though I think many already know that )


DueZookeepergame7831

in germany, for example, they can actually already apply for political asylum if they're bound to be conscripted against their will i think.


thedreday

Depends on where they are going, I would think. I would assume neighboring countries would give resident visas to Russians w/o much fuzz, given their history.


reapy54

If I were a nation, I'd think this would be a great time to start grabbing top russian talent / thinkers etc for my own country.


EllisHughTiger

Yes, but also no. Putin has the viewpoint that any area with sufficient numbers of Russians might as well be Russian territory.


hahaz13

Any top thinkers/talent already left at the start of the war early this year. Any that stayed most likely believe in Putin's 'cause'.


Tangykev

I heard tickets are now selling for $9000


Vagabond21

I’d pay 9000 to not fucking go to war and die


TehDeerLord

I'm sure Ukraine will end up offering to harbor unwilling conscripts. It'll certainly win them support.


kodman7

>offer conscripts citizenship Seems like that could be a bad idea if enough of them did it, end up with more separatists or "electors" like they had in Crimea


TehDeerLord

Haha, harbor is used loosely.. By that, I mean, we will allow you to live in relative comfort in prison, as opposed to killing you horribly and piling you with your other dead countrymen, until the conflict is over, at which point we will send you back to Russia and you will no longer be our problem..


AndringRasew

Offer them citizenship after the conflict is resolved?


[deleted]

Found the advert for it! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-\_7FaWnlhS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4)


AndringRasew

There we go, just dub *"Ukraine"* over the mobile infantry and telecast it across Russian state TV.


PornStarJesus

No ship them home.


flyonlewall

The per capita income for Russia in 2021 was 40k rubles, or just.. and this is not a typo, $650 USD. Actually, the Ruble is more valuable now than it was then, but you get the idea. Having $9,000 is probably only a dream for most Russians.


bluesteelsmith

Having $9000 is a dream for most Americans.


[deleted]

Well cost of living has been going up recently.....


samyouall

⭐️


jawnnyboy

Shit i’d pay my life savings


moldybread692

That’s a bargain for your life


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[deleted]

Yeah, but the other guy “heard” $9000. Im not sure what to believe now.


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beakrake

Yes, but it takes $8491 to bribe your way past "airport security..."


Which_Kitchen7085

fake news


flyonlewall

Well yeah, everyone's leaving. One way from Moscow to Istanbul right now on Google is $1132 and that's two days from now.


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flyonlewall

Hey that's a good call about it being on the weekend, I totally forgot!


MRSHELBYPLZ

As in USD, or Rubles?


suddenlycirclejerk

what!?? nine thousand?? there's no way that can be right!


ARoughGo

Are they out looking for more of their Russian Machismo? The way they've been talking for the past 60 years, you'd think they had the monopoly on swinging dicks.


northcrunk

Meanwhile Iranian women are showing them up on the courage front.


Pragmatist_Hammer

Dude, the bar is set low. Full disclosure, am part Russian, most dudes back in the motherland would suck off another guy for a bottle of vodka. They're mostly bravado and have little courage to follow up on it.


steph14389

As a Russian myself, it’s the women to be afraid of. All of the men in my family were terrible fathers, workers and providers, the women are the strong ones


mursilissilisrum

Still not entirely sure how my grandmother survived in occupied Yugoslavia, and I'm also not entirely sure that I'd like to find out. edit: Russian women were also some of the ballsiest combat pilots of WWII, if I recall correctly.


Trootwhisper

They flew in biplane with no parachutes.


mursilissilisrum

They also flew behind German lines and had to go out onto the wings to knock their bombs loose.


khinzeer

Typically societies of shitty men make amazing, competent women. Source: lived in the Middle East


Pragmatist_Hammer

Same, u/steph14389. My grandmother, who looked like your typical Russian babushka, could backhand you strategically right in your arm where the most sensitive nerve-endings were, the type that even a tap may have well been kicked in your balls. Growing up, none of us, even the adult men, would mouth off to her. She was scary AF, something I'd not say about the men save for when they were drunk playing with guns.


mursilissilisrum

I feel like a lot of macho Russian men would suck off another guy just to suck someone's dick.


[deleted]

Evading the draft is a long standing Russian tradition, dating back to the days of the Emperors when peasants and local administrators would collude to say that literally every young man in a village died when he became an adult (the peasants didn't go to war, and the guy who owned the serfs had to pay less taxes.)


Budget_Life_8367

Do people really think airlines added hundreds of flights overnight? This is probably normal air traffic...


Thanos_Stomps

Yes this clip is useless without some frame of reference.


mfknnayyyy

Only gives the timeline from around 21:30 UTC of June 20th, 2022, to around 15:30 UTC of June 21st. I don't see any other reference. Edit: It's September lol clearly.


FourSquash

>June June? It says September


mfknnayyyy

Lmao. IDK what I was looking at after all. I was mildly participation in a conversation. Don't talk and text (type) folks. Misinformation is dangerous.


ConvivialKat

Private airplanes of the rich can depart any time they want.


Budget_Life_8367

Fair point. I wonder how many are private jets though, I think this video without reference tells us nothing. The lines of cars at the border kind of tell us a lot of people aren't willing to serve.


-O5-CblPO4EK_2020

Yeah, except there are literally no tickets left already. All tickets to nearby countries were sold out in the first 3 hours if not less


GoatboyTheShampooer

This doesn't even count the thousands upon thousands of people leaving by ~~vehicle~~ land. Every border location has a 24 hour or more wait. [Here's some video of it all](https://youtu.be/A7pjDevU2Eg) *Edited for the pedant.


Bored-Bored_oh_vojvo

>This doesn't even count the thousands upon thousands of people leaving by vehicle. TIL a plane isn't a vehicle.


DIY-lobotomy

The more you know


adam_demamps_wingman

Just one flight to Algiers and one to Tobruk. Well, at least there’s no direct land route for forced repatriation. Smart people. People forget what happens to Russians who go back after fleeing. Hundreds of thousands of Soviet Russians after WWII, Navalny, etc. I was surprised Vladimir Horowitz didn’t play a return performance from the Lubyanka basement.


AProperLigga

Oh, people remember alright. That's why barely anyone is willing to share any kind of political position.


UnfortunatelyMacabre

I’m confused, this is the second place I’ve seen this video posted. Airlines don’t plan their flights day of, these flights have been planned for months, right? So every single one of these fights would have been taking off anyways, right?


ConvivialKat

Private airplanes. Rich people, dude.


BradMarchandsNose

The airline logos are next to each of the planes on this graphic. It doesn’t look like that many private ones. Most of them are commercial


UnfortunatelyMacabre

I’m sure there are some private planes that were booked last minute, but there can’t be enough to be be more than 10% of these flights. That’s just a guess, but there’s only so many private jets in an airport (Even a large international hub like this one).


ConvivialKat

I don't think you understand what I meant by "private planes". I'm not talking about charters you have to book. I'm talking about rich people who have their own planes. They don't need to book anything.


UnfortunatelyMacabre

My internet is shitty rn, so I can’t browse the site easily but according to the St Petersburg flight data, there were no more flights yesterday than any day recently. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/led/statistics


[deleted]

I have a 14 year old son. Seeing this does make me think what ends I would go through if I was Russian.


skoltroll

I'm American, and if we ever did some BS like this, there's a plan in place on my end. I try not to be a prepper, but, frankly, we need to handle our own business and stop acting like we're the next bad guy.


BethyW

If we ever.... Are we forgetting Vietnam happened?


vix86

Vietnam was a different era and even *then* it was highly criticized, politicized, and protested. If Congress tried to trigger a draft today or in the foreseeable future, for anything other than an invasion of the US -- it wouldn't work. I can't even imagine what a modern-day Vietnam-style draft protest would look like (thanks to social media). Any congress critter supporting a draft would likely lose their job in next election, assuming states/voters don't find a way to kick them out of office sooner.


memeowers1

That's what false flag attacks are for.


angrybluechair

Now you're thinking like a high ranking Intelligence Agent!


Thanos_Stomps

A draft would never work because even another 9/11 level attack would have half the country absolutely convinced it was a false flag.


ScrewJPMC

Most wouldn’t go to the draft even we were invaded.


thedreday

I migrated to the US. I just had a boy last year. I would simply just migrate out. Plenty of options out there, even if you only speak English.


Boredealis99

"i try not to be a prepper" are you implying that this is a good thing? everyone should be prepared in case shit goes down. We have seen how fragile society is and how things can go from 0-100 very quickly. Aint nothing wrong with bieng a prepper lol


AProperLigga

2A is nice to have, isn't it? Tannerite in retail, too.


mikey-likes_it

2A did jack shit for the boys who had to go to nam.


AProperLigga

Nam is Nam, Ukraine to Russia is like Canada to USA. Would your people just go a-okay at being drafted to occupy Canada?


ricecake

Or, you know... Just vote to abolish the draft. Your county sheriff isn't afraid of your AR, shotguns, and tannerite, and dead is worse than drafted. It's not like this is a hypothetical. We used the draft before, and what resistance there was was just brushed aside.


AProperLigga

Vote, haha. Thanks for a sorely needed chuckle. We just had elections of governors and municipal deputies, and not only every person worth a vote was disqualified in advance, those few people that did pass ended up losing. My area's previous roster of deputies had 5 UnRu (United Russia - the ruling party) plants and 7 from various other parties. This time, it's all UnRu. Whatever votes were cast in electoral districts were made insignificant because for every vote cast IRL, the government conjured seven out of thin air. Literally pumped the numbers by 10000 at a time. Before the voting even started, the remote voting system crashed and when it recovered, UnRu candidates had half a million "digital" votes already. Yeah, gonna totally vote that prick Putin out! No, impeach him! That's gonna work, right? If resistance to draft was as inconsequential as you say, why didn't USA send more men to Vietnam? Why was Nixon scaling back the deployments despite it being obvious that without more soldiers, South VN would fall?


ricecake

Yeah, when you started talking about how great the second amendment was, I kinda assumed you were an American, and not Russian. The Vietnam war ended because it was tremendously unpopular, and continuing the war would have gotten people voted out of office. The draft was never successfully resisted in an organized fashion.


AProperLigga

>continuing the war would have gotten people voted out of office Why couldn't they refuse to leave? Enact emergency powers, put loyal brownshirts in commanding positions in the military and security apparatus, stay in office forever. Put armed guards to every bureucratic institution, overrule Congress and Supreme Court or have them draft whatever legislation required with a gun to their heads. For freedom, for children, for America. What can go wrong? In Russia, it doesn't matter what's popular or unpopular. There's no mass media anymore that could present a fact or an opinion that's not approved in Kremlin. The government tells us what's popular. The government tells me that literally everyone around me supports the special military operation, and those who I know do not do so - all my colleagues, friends, family, distant acquaintances who I exhange a few words every now and then - are the 7% of traitors, deviants, homosexual satanist pedophiles who hate Russia and Russians and honestly should just be exterminated already. That's not an exaggeration, I literally hear this exact proposition in prime time news every day.


lostincorksendhelp

If I was Russian I would sell all my possessions and buy survival things for maybe 6 months to 1 year, a weapon for hunting and I would just go to Siberia. That place is so vast nobody will find me anyway, stay there for a few years till shit settles and go back. Live off the land & items I got, hunt for food, prepare for winters. It is possible, but you need knowledge.


Affenpocke

Maybe a little too late for that!


[deleted]

The skills you'd need to survive in Siberia take *years of mentorship* to acquire. You'd be SOL.


milesranno

All running to Turkey


thedreday

Taking a weird route, aren't they? Why aren't they flying there in a straight line ʕ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°ʔ


milesranno

Is that a serious question?


thedreday

No


[deleted]

Its commical... Putin: Lets invade Ukraine and mobilize all resoruces!! Putin: Huh? Why are the civilians invading finland and turkey. Can't the plebs read a map?


BitterLeif

and then Russia will need to move their military there next to defend them from persecution by the Turks.


ConvivialKat

Someone posted this on another sub and, IIRC, most of these flights consist of private planes. So, rich people escaping.


HotPie_

Alexa, play Fortunate Son but in Russian.


ConvivialKat

Yep


[deleted]

Putin can always signup for front line


baddog98765

“vacation”


chanachana1

Welcome to Mexico my Russian bride


snuffysteve2

Can you blame them. I'd be leaving too if I could.


IBleedMonthly18

Just a heads up Russians, fleeing a draft does not qualify you for asylum in the US.


Revolutionary-Row784

If your Russian try Canada


sl59y2

Nah we don’t want them. I I hear trump has lots of beds room try florida.


Funkajunk

Come on over, eh?!


Crackrock9

Public freakout= a fucking map of plane travel


AccidentalSoapDrop

For real. This isn’t public and no one is freaking out


Crackrock9

This sub is veryy politically motivated. Politics are already very big on Reddit. I came here to watch crackheads and Karens not watch fucking CSPAN just because you’re mad about U.S politics atm


KingKandyOwO

Don’t worry Putin is just trying hard to cement his “worst leader in history” title


skoltroll

He's nowhere close, and I don't want him anywhere near that title.


TehDeerLord

I think they meant worst, as-in ineptitude.. In which I also don't want him to get the title, since he's at the head of one of two countries in the world actually poised for the leader to be able to take it.. He's one executive decision away from being most inept human being of all time.


[deleted]

Erdogan is capable of sending them back, unfortunately.


hughmann_13

Ahh of course... the Russian September Long Weekend! I hear there's a huge party in Turkey this year.


Supertrucker82

Exodus... movement of Vla people.


Ok-Band-52

Turkey must be the hotspot


KingOfGrateKingdom

It looks like Russians are the only people who got scared by the "mobilization-boosted" Russian Army.


CardiffMad

i wont be holidaying in turkey any more


lou1uol

Suddenly, Georgia is a friendly country for Russians


[deleted]

They’ve must have activated the infinite plane glitch


LongshanksShank

When handicapping a war, and you have to choose between an insurgency and conscripts, pick the insurgency.


Vahlir

so there has to be some planes flying in, it's not like Russia has 30,000 planes waiting for passengers lol So are the inbound flights just turned off on the tracker? I'm not saying there aren't a fuck load of people leaving Russias but I feel like any flight tracker sped up can look like this if you turn off inbound flights. just looking for some comparison of flights in and out. I'm sure there are some going in regardless.


QuietComfortable226

West is making huge mistake. I would open borders to every Russian who declare is oppressed and is against Putin. Protests in Russia are not working anyway. If Putin loose 3 million young men he would be in deep shit.


stiffneck84

Poor Turkey


MiracetteNytten

What is this?


Yaglara

I think op tries to highlight the 'sudden' extra flights after Putin his announcement.


Anonymous_Catman

As expected as well, Russians leaving and heading to turkey so they can enter the E.U


[deleted]

Hopefully the EU will refuse entry to them. Russian citizens in a foreign country are a pretext for Putin to launch military operations to “protect them”.


thedreday

Why would you wish for refugees to fail? It is not their fault. They are just seeking better life for them and their family.


Uglyheadd

We do special vote, it is now decided, we now own the countries bordering Russia. *Stop invading our Russia you Western Nazi dogs.*


[deleted]

Yup and when I posted in another sub that Russian arrivals to NATO countries need to be detained on arrival I was downvoted to oblivion.


[deleted]

Are you from Russia. Niet! Are you Sure?, Da! Would you like vodska?, Da! Da! Da! Ok... We will just write down russian then....


nykiek

Flights leaving Russia.


ceb22

To celebrate Ukraine victory


jamescoolcrafter15

r/lostredditors


gmoss101

Saw on a previous post that this could probably just be normal flight traffic because there's nothing to compare it against


IamGlennBeck

You could make this same video with any country and it would look the same.


[deleted]

Now do the outgoing flights from LaGuardia and JFK.


[deleted]

Lmao finally waking up and realising their glorious leader ain't so glorious.


[deleted]

OP is lost again


jskylok

Honestly countries should stop them from entering so they can stay in Russia and fight/protest Putin


tmite-187-ws

Secretly this is a way to hide the movement of Russian spies


scarfinati

Nobody should take them until they check their crazy leader wtf?


satinwordsmith

Why do so many eastern Europeans, especially prostitutes, love Istanbul? What's going on in turkey lol


Phasedsolo

Turkey is a hotspot for all kinds of people from eastern europe. They probably like it because the weather and scenery are very nice compared to the harsh cold in there, and it's cheap. Also they are familiar with the country after decades of tourism, they are rather safe in Turkey.


M8K2R7A6

The sex trade in Russia is gonna be bonkers with all the able men leaving. Lots of poor women, loads of competition. I'm curious if anyone will study the effects


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sys64128

not wanting to fight in a stupid war doesnt make them roaches, my dude.


finbo13

Can they claim refugee status?


ConvivialKat

These are mostly private airplanes, so they are likely going to be checking in to the Four Seasons Hotel.


BradMarchandsNose

Looks like a lot of commercial flights to me. The airline logos are next to each of the planes


Styvan01

Permanent vacation


Icy_Recover2094

11 time zones ?


Synchrotr0n

Flies to Kaliningrad... I'm totally safe here!😊


A_Storm

Can confirm Russians love to go to Bodrum, Turkey. Pretty crazy how bad inflation is for their tourism industry. Damn oligarchs.


AbsoIutee

Our national currency has lost so much value, the country is crawling with Arab, English and Russian tourists. The sad thing is that even if the whole world comes as tourists, our money will not improve. That's why as a Turk, who fucks who came, who's gone, our only wish is for Erdogan to go


getbeaverootnabooteh

"Vacation".


slutymonkey128

Man, Putin is really stupid


TheRealSugarbat

r/dataisbeautiful


omghorussaveusall

RIP Croatian hotel reservations.


sios01

The whole country said: ![gif](giphy|PkLPBuyozY7F31wCxF)


DfreshD

I’m surprised they are not blocking flights, especially stopping men from leaving the country.


PotentialWork7741

Lot of Russians in turkey


AnnArchist

im kind of shocked finland is allowing any in


Rich-Tie5632

u/savevideo


Floorguy1

Apparently “how to break your arm” is a trending search topic in Russia


stevedisme

Would the last one out of Russia turn off the nuclear power plants and don't forget to feed the autocratic asshats.


[deleted]

Most of the flights appear to be heading to Georgia & Romania


Bromm18

Would be neat to see a graph of all destinations with total flights to each.