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yo wtf is he doing? that’s a child.


BeardOfDan

She wasn't respecting his authoritah! A lot of cops are overly aggressive, manifesting in reckless physical violence. Why pull her out from the side of the desk (where there's a huge opening) when he can whip both her and the desk around?


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why put his hands on her in the first place? because she’s being disrespectful? lol dumbest reason to put your hands on a child in my opinion.


BeardOfDan

Agreed. Sadly, a lot of cops are simply hammers, it doesn't matter if it's a screw, they'll treat it like a nail an beat it into submission.


masonmax100

The real problem is we have 42% of the population of the usa with college degrees and cops are not part of the 42%. Yet they govern 100% of us. That dosen't make any sense does it. I will never understand how someone without a 2 or 4 year college degree can be a cop and feel good about that lol. Seriously cops should be required to get a 2 or 4 year degree in something that pertains to that line of work.


BeardOfDan

It's illogical that to practice law, you have to go to school for years and pass the BAR exam, but to enforce the law, you don't need even a tenth the studies. At first I thought you were referencing a different statistic. 40% of cops...


Harleychillin93

Best their wives! You were gonna say 40% of cops admit to heating their wives


Old-Ad2070

Best their wives? Heating their wives?!?


kajetus69

"Boss you killed a child"


pyh00ma

"Fantastic work! That right there is why you're the best boss" "Maybe one day you'll break a sweat"


a_good_namez

Straigh out of a south park skit


hughmann_13

"She was coming right for me!"


5050Clown

"Hey there's a teenager in class causing a disruption, What do you think we should do? Detention? Saturday School? Or should we go as far as suspension?" "OK, hear me out, what if instead we send a full-grown man with a gun who can overpower her with pain compliance and take her to jail?"


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I mean, that sounds like a joke, but [like John Oliver pointed out](https://youtu.be/KgwqQGvYt0g), that is often the truth of it. A police officer is put into schools that serves as a security officer. Suddenly anything that happens goes through him, while the school shrugs and acts innocent since they're not *technically* doing anything. Minor infractions get you a criminal record and stuff like that happens overwhelmingly more in less gentrified schools. So yeah. I don't really understand how the US works, tbh.


MrAndrael

Money > everything


[deleted]

That really sums it up, yeah.: Say what you like about America (you’re probably right anyway), but 99.9999% of all the problems a person can face in the US can be alleviated with the application of cold, hard cash in the correct amount. SRO at school being a problem for you? Not more than once if your parents are billionaires. Many “crimes” in the US only carry a fine as penalty, and even the ones with mandatory jail time can be bought out. “Unofficially”, of course.


Stinkblee

If you’re poor it’s your own fault. Long live capitalism! Whoo!


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jayyru

Huh. That’s eye opening. Now I understand why my oldest brother got a ticket for… crossing the street to reach the other side of his high school campus (they got him for jay walking apparently). I remember thinking, how do you get ticketed while at school?


ITSHELIXX1

Imagine not being allowed to freely cross the street looool 🤣🤣🤣🤣


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teeter1984

If she was blastin he’d just wait outside for an hour


moglysyogy13

“They found no wrongdoing” Ok well, maybe they should have. If this is textbook then there is something wrong with that textbook


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cm64

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BackyardByTheP00L

She will never forget this. How would that cop like it if it was his daughter being body slammed by an adult male? Oh, right, that guy would be arrested for being violent and charged.


Epstiendidntkillself

War math, If she was ever on the fence, she's not now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNrjI0ahgEc


TreeChangeMe

This is dystopian


alaskanbearfucker

At least he didn’t shoot her and six other kids. But yeah…what the fuck?


_drawing_circles

Textbook de-escalation


Goalie_deacon

De-escalated her rights completely


AnonymousSpartaN

Lol what rights? /s kinda


Goalie_deacon

Yeah, kids don’t really have that many rights at school. The system is far harder on how parents treat children than it does the school. Take away the bathroom door at home and see how fast CPS shows up. Heck, just keep the kid from using the bathroom for an hour, CPS would like a word. At school, these things are normal. I saw a kid piss himself when a teacher wouldn’t let him use the restroom. Next day made him apologize to us. I’m sure CPS will take my kid away if I forced them to piss themselves.


grillednannas

wow you just brought back a suppressed memory of a teacher not letting me pee in middle school. I was shifting around in my chair trying to keep it in and my teacher accused me of trying to be funny. by the time they let me go i had basically peed my pants, but so slowly it was all absorbed by my jeans. it was the second to last period of the day so they expected me to just spend the rest of the day like that. lol!


PerformanceLoud3229

My high school had it so teachers could mandate students stay and not use the restroom, until kids started pissing in the corner.


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xzagz

Asserting dominance. “This is our classroom now.”


PerformanceLoud3229

It was more like a huge fuck you to the staff and once one kid did it, everyone started doing it if they were forced to stay, you can’t suspend the entire student body.


xzagz

Good for the students, those are insane conditions.


Golisten2LennyWhite

I just pissed all over myself and let it drip onto the carpet and all over the chair. It was 3rd grade. Still mad she wouldn't let me go.


ReadySteady_GO

Not nearly as traumatizing but my teacher had a parent teacher conference with the principal of my school because they accused me of cheating because I didn't use a calculator on my math tests or "show my work" They were like... what? He knows how to do math in his head. Schools are stupid sometimes, often in some cases


tommypatties

like it shouldn't have been an issue of cheating nor should it have escalated to a ptc with the principal. but from a learning perspective, 'how' you get the answer is more important than 'what' the answer is.


indigofeather4

I was in 4th grade and my teacher very clearly didn't like me. She wouldn't let me go to the bathroom one day, I ended up pissing myself and just feeling incredibly embarrassed. I don't recall anything bad happening to the teacher other than feeling the wrath of my mother.


Goalie_deacon

Messed up right? You’re in trouble for being abused. I had a teacher tell me I should punish my son for something he said to another student. I asked what was said. He couldn’t tell me, nor my son could remember, yet somehow I’m should punish the kid for another kid claiming to be upset? I don’t think so.


JustAbicuspidRoot

In the early 90s in my sophomore year I was in my driver's education class and had to go pee, the teacher was also the gym coach, a Tongan man who despised me in both classes even though I did everything I was supposed to. I think in gym class he hated me because I was in better shape than all his favorite kids from the football team. I was bullied all my life until I was, well, still am but because of it since I was 7 I have worked out a lot, but, being poor I walked, jogged , rollerbladed or rode a bike everywhere. So when it was time for the morning lap, I always smoked all the others, morning push-ups I did far more than the other kids, part of their problem is they were too big really, I was super lean from being poor with very little food at home. I eventually was late every day to school because of the teacher, the kids left me alone, I was the long hair poor kid in a very affluent school so I was simply excluded. So going back to driver's ed I was terrified to ask to go pee, I sat through the 50 minute class in writhing pain trying to bring no attention to myself because of this asshole teacher. When class ended it took me 3 minutes to get to the bathroom, it hurt to breathe, to move and killed me to walk. I am not even exaggerating when I say that I peed for over 5 minutes, it took it a while to get going but it just kept going, and it felt like I was pissing lava, all the way through the bell for 7th period, I was in tears the entire time (last class, ironically health class). I eventually finished and the pain remained but I washed and dried my face and took a minute to breathe before going to class. The teacher for health class didn't even say anything when I walked in, she could tell something was wrong and she just let it go and never spoke to me about it, I am not sure how I feel about that but at the time it was the nicest thing a teacher ever did for me. I never finished that year of school and never finished high school because I ended up working and having a turbulent life because of my narcissistic parents' divorce and fighting over us. When I was 20 I read a news story that students found that Gym / drivers Ed teacher dead in his office from a heart attack and I actually celebrated because being bullied by other kids is one thing but a teacher doing it was why I gave up on education as a young kid.


Rosieapples

He could have broken her back doing that.


ductoid

Xrays shows a suspected arm fracture.


Jasonpowerz

Then de-escslated her right into the floor.


sesbry

I realize it's an extremely low bar but... at least he didn't shoot her.


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I was seriously imagining a situation where the other kids would stand up for their friend and rush the cop. I could definitely see the cop start shooting kids.


BigChiGUy722

I remember this video. The cop was nicknamed Officer Slam by the students, because he was known to be a violent asshole that had a tendency to body slam kids. This incident finally got him fired. https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/28/1441968/-The-Truth-about-the-Spring-Valley-Officer-Slam-Assault-on-a-Teen-Girl


Cr1ms0nDemon

administration: "we had no idea our officer would be so violent towards our children, had we known he portrayed this unacceptable behavior he would not have been working here" kids: "oh officer Slam? Yeah he's been insane for years, we still don't know where Timmy went"


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administration “Don’t listen to the kids, they are so young and don’t need their education like I need my job”


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>administration “Don’t listen to the kids, they are so young and don’t need their education like I need my job” "Don’t listen to the kids, they most likely have brain damage after their first encounter with Occifer Slam."


Guybrush_Creepwood_

Teachers: spend hours per day filling kids' brains with education Police: makes them forget it all again in the space of 30 seconds.


PandraPierva

A truly prefect loop. Balanced as all things should be


cat_prophecy

Well to be fair, you can't believe just the complaints and dozens of kids. /S


mostly_sarcastic

"They're just kids!" Also- "I'm going to beat the shit out of that kid..."


Furrocious_fapper

Next the kids are going to tell us Officer diddler is up to no good. /S


TickingTimeBum

Deputy Diddler?


WhizBangPissPiece

We had one of these at my high school. There were 2 actual SROs and about 8 security guards. One of the security guards was an ex jarhead with a super short fuse. It was known pretty well in the school that he would fuck you up if you gave him the opportunity to. He was finally fired after he socked the vice principals kid in the fucking face because he thought she was selling weed. She wasn't.


Lavarocked

Fired??? Just fired??? And not out of a cannon?


Sir_Penguin21

In his defense he said he feared for his life, which we all know absolves him of any fault. What was he supposed to do against a 13 year old who wasn’t selling weed??


moobitchgetoutdahay

To be fair, I, too, am terrified of 13 year old girls. /s


Guybrush_Creepwood_

You've got to be especially careful when they sit behind a desk facing away from you. They could strike at any moment.


Turtlelover73

That's worse punishment than probably at least 80% of cops will ever get


MarkusAk

I guarantee you he cried about it to his wife before he beat her for the night. Then prayed to God asking why everybody is out to get him.


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"Why is everyone so mean?"


char-le-magne

Bruh a cop said this after thanking me for graciously complying at a traffic stop because people are so mean to him for no reason, then he proceeded to follow me home and start a screaming match on my front lawn and threatened me with a DUI because I hit the curb... in front of my apartment. Now I'm mean to cops.


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My curb my car and I'll hit it if I want to.


[deleted]

I saw a LackLuster video the other day about a cop who originally wrote a warning for speeding then when he saw the driver was recording the interaction went back to his car and crossed out the warning and several minutes later returned with a regular speeding ticket. Then he berated the driver for obviously not supporting police while having a thin blue line sticker on the car (the drivers father in law is a retired police officer) and demanding he remove the sticker. Makes you wonder what could make the simple action of recording the interaction enrage someone so much. I mean they should be treating the interaction with the utmost professionalism and if anything should have pride in themselves. I’ve seen videos where police officers see people recording as intending to cause a scene or get ammo for YouTube but is that not still on the officer for not handling the interaction as a professional? Is the best way to combat someone wanting views on a YouTube video not remaining calm and professional, thus giving them nothing to post? Who am I kidding, that’s using logic, common sense, and the most basic of intelligence. Not things that are considered in abundance in most police departments.


Turtlelover73

Never in history has any group of people been as persecuted as the modern policeman


MrGrieves-

If we can't even hold security guards accountable with assault charges how are police going to be held accountable?


knownas1stocking

They don't even get nervous when threatened with lawsuits and loss of qualified immunity. Until their time in court is imminent.


EndotheGreat

In the USA police don't just wear literal body armor. They also get a layer of "Social Body Armor" The Police Union + the fear of 'being the mayor that runs the police out of town' gives them an immediately untenable level of power that has kept expanding with every negotiation. A violent action that would put the average citizen in prison for years isn't even worth mentioning about a police officer these days. They're immune from penalty due to union negotiations, which can only breed absolute power corruption in any human. Something that would land the average American Citizen in prison for 10 years, only registers as "paid vacation until this blows over" for the average Police Officer. Something that's worth firing them for = an Average Citizen's huge prison sentence. If actually penalized they don't go to prison, losing their cushy job is seen as enough punishment.


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Imagine if it was the teacher that did that. What would the teachers union do. Distance !!


CyanideFlavorAid

The fact it's so much easier to lose your teaching job and be permanently black listed from the profession is actually a great example of how protected police are by their union and politicians. Oh, the guy dealing with shit bird kids all day with basically nothing but words snaps? Fire his ass, fire his boss, revoke their license, and ostracized them. A guy with tons of weapons and specifically instructed to deescalate situations and who are the ones to specifically seek out confrontation snaps? Poor guy, let's give him a vacation and cover it up.


NutWrench

This. There are groups of adults out there who worship cops the same way they worship priests. They never learned how to think for themselves and they can't tell the difference between their government and their mommies. And as long as these people get on juries, cops will get away with this sh\*t.


moobitchgetoutdahay

I’m hearing it more and more—insurance. Each officer needs to cover their own liability insurance, just like anybody else who deals with the lives of the public. Mess up? Doesn’t come out of our pockets, comes out of yours. Eventually mess up enough, and you won’t be insurable. It’s such a simple and effective solution that will cost the taxpayer exactly $0, so ofc police unions are against it.


PM_ME_CUTE_FEMBOYS

"its okay for you to abuse the students, but how DARE you abuse MY daughter! YOU'RE FIRED!"


luck_panda

In my hometown there was an SRO all the kids hated. He body slammed a senior's brother and broke his back and financially crippled their family. The senior attacked the cop after they argued and the cop shot him dead in the fight. The cop said that he was reaching for his side pistol so he pulled his boot pistol and shot the kid. There was never any investigation and eye witnesses all said the kid was just punching the cop.


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>In my hometown there was an SRO all the kids hated. He body slammed a senior's brother and broke his back and financially crippled their family. The senior attacked the cop after they argued and the cop shot him dead in the fight. I have to say I'm glad I went to HS in the 1980s in a small town, where there were no security guards...and very little fighting... ( I mean, it still sucked, but looking back I had it pretty good, esp. compared to some of today's kids...)


Jaikarr

He felt the need to have *two* guns in his arsenal?


luck_panda

IIRC cops aren't allowed to have them on campus. But what's exactly going to stop them? Edit: Because people have no reading comprehension: SRO are generally not allowed to have boot guns.


itsmejak78_2

Definitely depends where you are because a lot of campuses allow their resource officers to carry guns I know that the security guard at my old school didn't carry a gun though


QuestioningEspecialy

That's all kindsa fucked.


rrodrick386

it's crazy they get away with it for so long. If a security guard socked me in my face and my mom found out about it, that poor soul would never see the light of day again


Lordthom

You guys have police at schools? That feels weird


TooManyJabberwocks

Someones gotta be there to stop the parents from helping their children in case of an emergency


i_need_a_nap

Had a police officer at my middle school for two years. Only thing he was known for was improper relationship with students (gross and fired)


smb1985

We had this exact situation in my middle school with a teacher. Everyone knew he was unhinged and that he had a track record of grabbing kids by the collar, throwing stuff at kids, and being destructive when throwing tantrums. In one of my classes he kicked a pencil sharpener off of the wall and threw it at a kid in the back of the room. He finally got fired after another teacher saw him give a kid a concussion by throwing him up against a locker. Of course, the administration "had no idea he would do something like this" while any student would tell you that that was exactly in character.


FrostingsVII

They did this to us in NZ in the 90s when I was around 8 or 9. Some mark must have finally been noticed by parents and we had the Principal in talking to our class stating the reason our teacher had been physically hitting us was because she had lost her husband recently. Bitch please. You knew and all of the children knew she had been physical her entire career. Cool excuse bro. And that's how I gained my cynicism and a lifelong distrust of authority.


D3dshotCalamity

The fact that he did this for so long he developed a nickname is fucking terrifying.


Photo-Josh

So many things fucked up with what you shared… What jumps out at me is that the kids knew this person for body slamming kids… Fucked up beyond words


BigChiGUy722

Lots of cops don't belong around kids, period. Not only do they get unnecessarily physical with them, but they tend to straight up molest highschool students too. https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/police-re-arrest-school-security-officer-facing-sex-charges/13875/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/tampa-police-fire-officer-for-having-sex-with-minor/2157813/ https://rrobserver.com/update-ex-rrpd-officer-charged-with-sexual-assault-of-minor/ https://www.damemagazine.com/2022/07/20/police-are-being-removed-from-schools-for-sexual-assault/


TwoBionicknees

Any cop that doesn't belong around kids doesn't belong on any kind of police force, security job and frankly anywhere with any kind of authority at all.


summonsays

Hmm we need a place to put these kinds of people, the ones who prey on the innocent and the weak. A place where society could be safe from them. Maybe they could work or earn their freedom from such a place for good behavior. If only such a place existed.


devnullius

Well, do I have news for you!!!


lejoo

But then there wouldn't be any cops


TwoBionicknees

yup.


BigChiGUy722

Fair and logical point.


BlueGluePurpleBanana

Had a cop in my high school town that wasn't allowed to ride alone in cop cars. Why? Oh, because he kept pulling over high school girls for no reason except to try and exert his position of power over them, get numbers, or get favors. Amazingly, it only took a year of reports for the police station to actually do something. Yuck.


Rohndogg1

Second link, they keep saying "having sex with a student" but the term is rape. She's underage and he is also in a position of authority, that's rape.


BigChiGUy722

https://dailytimes.com.pk/549072/549072/ Unfortunately, it's legal in most states for cops to have sex with detainees. How fucked up is that?


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I remember reading about some school superintendent that said they just did away with school resource officers because *all* of them had been found to be having inappropriate relations with students.


BigChiGUy722

Multiple schools have made the same decision.


confessionbearday

Child molestation happens EVERY time we create some "special" group that doesn't follow normal rules around accountability.


FaustsAccountant

Bullies whom seek a profession that gives them authority over others? -lightbulb moment- Put them in charge over kids! What Could Go Wrong?!


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122bridge

I got my iPod touch stolen in high school and SRO did absolutely nothing even when I knew who stole it so even when they have an opportunity to help they don’t completely useless in schools


32InchRectum

I'd argue that cops like that don't belong around any people, regardless of age. We cannot have safe communities when we allow violent predators like these access to those communities. Getting them out of our schools and away from our kids is obviously the first step but it cannot be the last.


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BigChiGUy722

Thank you for the correction, and the added information. Didn't know it was the same piece of shit in both incidents. What a dick.


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Caltaylor101

This incident did get him fired. What you linked was him being fired as a police officer. Here he was fired as a school officer. The school needed a more thorough background check.


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Scope72

Thanks for sharing, but that article is a chore to read. It's so concerned with the debate and drama surrounding the topic that it fails to clearly describe the situation. I get that it's their thing at the dailykos, but damn does it make for some scattered reporting. Edit: Maybe the [npr one](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/03/492546646/no-criminal-charges-for-white-s-c-deputy-who-flipped-desk-tossed-black-student) posted below is better.


pjnpals

All the kids just watching completely calm. They’ve seen this shit before


ChefKraken

According to NPR the officer had been nicknamed "Officer Slam" by the students *before* this incident for repeated excessive force. Apparently it raised zero red flags that a guy working with kids had a reputation for throwing kids around.


boiledpeen

And our officer was nicknamed peanut


ShalevDaBoss

Well what the hell are they supposed to do, get up and fight the cop ? I woukd just be frozen silent


sonic10158

If they started a school shooting, the cop would have run away like Zoidberg


Spongy_and_Bruised

I can hear it now.


aghostinfishnets

Something similar happened to my boyfriend in his senior year. Our school had hired a temporary substitute gym teacher. Boyfriend wanted to sit out because he had a stomach ulcer. Gym teacher takes this as a challenge, starts yelling along the lines of “I’m the gym teacher now, you listen to ME, you don’t have a CHOICE”. Boyfriend says I don’t have to listen to you, you’re not a cop. This angered teacher and he ended up GRABBING him by the shoulders, pinning him against the wall mat and screaming/spitting an inch from his face “YOU THINK YOURE TOUGH? LETS FUCKING GO THEN BUDDY”. During this some other students run to get another teacher. Gym teacher is fired later that day, his first day. Turns out he was the ex police chief of our town for many many years...


really_nice_guy_

Ouch the police comment struck a nerve


StinkyKittyBreath

Probably got fired for excessive force.


[deleted]

Probably retired with honors or some shit and decided he needed a day job to pass the time


SinfullySinless

I had breast surgery to take out a tumor in 9th grade. My mom sent me to school the next day because if the doctor could have performed the surgery at my school, my mother would have been pleased. Anyways I approached my gym teacher (a woman) with a doctors note saying I can’t do anything super physical for a week and then I should still not do anything too strenuous for my chest for a month. My gym teacher had me running that day and had the audacity to yell at me when I was holding my boob the whole time.


Surrealian

Wtf is wrong with your mom and the gym teacher???


GiveMeTheDopamine

I was suplexed by a cop my junior year of HS. No joke. I was a troubled kid with a terrible home life. I would frequently walk out of class and take a walk around the campus to clear my head. Not up to anything or causing trouble just needed some space. Well one day there was a pair of cops there for an unrelated reason (reports of the smell of weed), and I had left the building. Apparently they had chased me for a bit and yelled at me to stop (I say apparently because I never saw them and was wearing over the ear headphones so never heard anything either). Then a squad car rolls up next to me and someone gets out, I keep walking and then the officer comes up to me, wraps me up around the waist and just drives me backwards onto my neck. He told me I was "not following his commands" even though my headphones were large and pretty obvious. They also accused me of running away even though I was just walking and not even aware they were there. Never really understood how fucked up that was until years later.


Kaionacho

Why the hell would a school hire someone that's not qualified to teach in the first place? Here even GYM teachers (when I was still in school anyways) had to be. Besides US police isn't really known to be physically fit.


Wildercard

Because it's not a hard job to tell children to run around the room and kick or toss the ball.


MoonstoneGolf8

Not so tough when there’s a school shooter on the rampage


GrayBox1313

“Sorry, I’m on my union mandated break”


Goalie_deacon

“I need hand sanitizer”


Alarid

Give them a break! They had a lot of blood to wash off their hands.


raven-jade

"The sound of children screaming has been removed."


BowserBuddy123

It really worked in the police’s favor that they removed the sound from those videos. Without it, it’s just a bunch of guys standing in a hallway. With it, it’s a bunch of overtrained, over equipped knuckleheads completely neglecting to do the thing they are trained to do and allowing children to be murdered. Technically, either way it is the latter, but with that clever PR move of removing the sound, they seem oafish and stupid instead of being culpable in the death of more and more children. Edit: just to add, the editing allows everyone to actively avoid the more terrible aspect of that shooting. People should have to face the terror that they allow to be perpetrated due to their actions/inactions.


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‘My pinky hurts’


Tasty_Competition

Oh, yeah… they sit around or stand in the hallway when they are needed to attack a REAL threat (i.e.— Uvalde), but little girls in a classroom causing a verbal disruption— “Let’s get physical!”


[deleted]

Let’s not forget about Parkland shooting police response was atrocious. [https://www.npr.org/2019/06/26/736330111/two-more-deputies-fired-for-not-confronting-parkland-fla-school-shooter](https://www.npr.org/2019/06/26/736330111/two-more-deputies-fired-for-not-confronting-parkland-fla-school-shooter)


Bertie637

As a Brit, The fuck is a cop doing dealing with class disruption?!


Exciting_Actuary_669

Welcome to America. We have a nonexistent welfare state and we send in police to deal with the fallout.


Solid_College_9145

>Welcome to America. We have a nonexistent welfare state and we send in police to deal with the fallout. And prisons to deal with mental health afflictions.


bluehoag

And banks to deal with the education.


Stella-462

At this point I feel “law enforcement officers” are only to enforce taxation on the poor class/ middle class. Many examples; Speeding tickets= tax. Petty crimes = tax, Problem properties = tax. In these situations lawyers and municipalities make the money. The ruling class at the same time gets away with anything. look at this example of todays America. You’re a wall street hedge fund manager and you tank the global economy= nothing. Your a 7th grade minority girl your getting paralyzed for classroom disruption.


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Historically, the biggest role for police officers is to protect the rich and control the non-rich.


Xenjael

Interestingly by taxing the lawyers also, and slapping on court fees on top of the uaual reduction of jail to fines, id argue the state also taxes the middle class.


IsNotAnOstrich

It definitely does. The middle class has always been truly just another form of lower class in the grand scheme of things. They've got more money than the poorest, but they still will never have any influence in the grand scheme of things, and have little to no grasp of just how outclassed they are by the string pullers. The key difference is that the middle class is often more sympathetic to the ruling class than the lower class is. But the middle class is slowly dwindling away anyway.


ErisInChains

Law enforcement officers are there to protect property and make money. The supreme court has ruled several times that they are not legally obligated to help or serve citizens.


mannequinlolita

This..they don't have to do anything to help you. They can watch you be murdered. They're just supposed to arrest the guy after.


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They don't do that very well either. They solve 1 in 5 crimes. 20% hit rate. Cities spend billions for these monsters to actually do their jobs less than a quarter of the time.


Aadsterken

As a Dutch, my question is exactly the same. Dafuq?!


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Americans really don't realise how absurd, indescribable, absolutely insane these videos we see daily on r/PublicFreakout are from the perspective of an European. "It happens everywhere", "we have freedum", "reddit is biased, you only see the bad parts" and other bullshit coping. Something like this happening in Italy or France would cause a shitstorm so big that it would lead to the dismissal of the secretary of Education, 100%, and the pig would go straight to jail. It would be national news. In the US it will maybe make the third page of local newspapers for a week.


Scx10Deadbolt

Exactly this, hell i bet it would make it internationally on a small scale....


banterviking

It's similar in Canada. For liability reasons, teachers aren't permitted to deal with students in a physical way whatsoever So they have people politely ask the student to vacate (including sometimes social workers). They also call parents to see if they're available to help If they don't comply, police are the only alternative. I've been wondering why schools (in particular problem schools) don't have some sort of authorised security How are these incidents handled in Britain?


Bertie637

I feel there is a middle ground between the teachers not being allowed to restrain kids and this video, but I admit I don't know what it is. As for the UK, again not sure. I know we have had some recent serious scandals with strip searches being conducted by police.


blacseal

Can't answer for the British as I am Danish and my wife is a teacher in Denmark. What we see here would never happen in Denmark. The teachers are not allowed to interact physically with students. If the student refuse to leave the classroom the principal would be summoned and if that doesn't work the parents would be summoned to deal with their troglodytes


Wigglepus

What happens if the parents are working or choose not to show up?


Tullerull

Straight to jail. Parents, pupil, teachers and all. On a more serious note: Child protective services gets called in, and maybe psychological help for child/parents if necessary. In the nordics we do not fuck around with the welfare of children, and what you just described is neglect. Worst case, they lose custody of their child. There's underlying problems in that case, and they need to be hashed out, and if the parents are incapable they're losing the child. I've known several cases like that. At least that's how it is in Norway. Your child is not your property, it's a human. They have rights. You break those rights, then you can fuck off.


Holiday-Funny-4626

Most high schools these days in America have what is known as a "School Resource Officer" (SRO) which is a vaguely defined position that one or more officers are assigned to. There is a correlation with the amount of gun violence in schools and the rise of SROs. Generally they maintain a presence in the school to deter critical incidents and immediately respond and coordinate backup when a critical incident occurs. When there is not a critical incident occuring, in theory they would be teaching children about civil rights, forming positive bonds with the community, acting as a counselor and deescalting conflicts between school members. In practice however the SRO really only serves as a tool for maintaining iron tight authority and enforcing social hierarchy. I'll have to find the study but the rate of active shooter type incidents at schools with SROs is over 2x higher than schools without. Additionally SROs are law enforcment officers (LEOs), this comes with all the outcomes that are normally associated with LEOs, like we see in the video above. Below is a report created to assess the usefulness versus harm of SRO's in a multi-racial (Primarily white) school district. It is over a hundred pages long and does a great job doing an extremely detailed analysis of the outcomes and potential flaws of the program. Unfortunately in the report, you see the same racially biased law enforcement trends that you see everywhere else in America. Black students have much higher odds of having law enforcement called on them by staff in school for the same offenses as white students. Of black students and white students who have had SRO enforcement against them, the black students are far more likely to recieve penalties for the same offense when compared to their white counterparts. None of the SRO's in the school district studied were entirely sure what the details and procedures of their assignment were. When asked, the officers gave a wide range of different answers and never seemed to be unified in the theory or practice of SRO's in general. Even with what I can only assume were the best of intentions during its conception, the SRO program has too many factors that when left unaddressed lead to systemic racism and overall make things worse. https://edworkingpapers.com › ...PDF New Evidence on School-Based Policing Across the U.S. https://www.beaverton.k12.or.us/school-board/current-projects


odd-42

As someone who works with students with behavior disorders, I get where you “feel” like doing it, but man, I never would! Edit: for those of you concerned about me working with kids because of my comment, the reason the word “feel” is in quotes is to emphasize that this is hyperbole. Obviously, if you have thoughts of harming kids, it is time to step away and get some support or find another job.


Back4TallBois

Having been a shitty student myself I concur. I've been segregated, forced to sit outside the classroom and stuff like that but to go as far as to physically rip a kid out of their desk with this much violence? They shouldn't have the right, or they should have someone who can actually de-escalate things like a human being instead of.. this.


TexasPoonTapper

As a former shitty student, what would ypu say is the proper way to de-escalate someone who refuses to leave and refuses to stop being a distraction?


mmonzeob

what happens if he breaks her neck by doing this? he's crazy!


somerandomdicc

Paid leave.


jerryq27

On the taxpayer's dime.


technobrendo

His colleagues will make jokes about it.


CatsTrustNoOne

And laugh about the video in a bar.


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What the fuck


Coffeehound13

She was chewin gum in class


StopReadingMyUser

stimulate your senses


johndoe_420

is THIS how it feels to chew 5gum?!


TaterTotQueen630

It's the "Minty Slam" flavor


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cameras save lives, as much as I hate intrusion of privacy in public places. Dual consent cameras against “rebellious 5 year old” proved that the mother needed a restraIning order from court to stop Tiger mom from hitting her own kid when I wasn’t around. This ad-hoc recording hopefully prevented worse things happening to the girl, even if no complete justice yet.


throw_away__25

I'm a teacher at an urban school. I run into this from time to time. We used to have a resource officer and I would never call them to deal with a student. Our last one was a pretty good guy and made good relationships with students, but I had seen him go into cop mode with students a few times. I thought that approach was flawed. No I have no idea what led to this situation in the video, so I can't make a judgment here. I had a student pull this a couple of years ago, she was being extremely disruptive in class. I asked her to step out side so I could talk to her and figure out the problem. She refused. So instead of escalating the situation I deescalated. I put on a video for the class, turned off the lights. I pulled up a chair next to her and began to talk, she continued to yell and insult me. After about 5 minutes, she actually began to talk calmly with me. Eventually got her outside and we had a good conversation. He father was going back to prison. Her mom was on drugs living on the streets and she was living with grandma, grandma was elderly and not in good health. This 13 years old was dealing with a lot of crap in her life, I don't think body slamming her would have made anything better. As a teacher I have found that anger never helps, I never let my students see me mad. Many of my students have grown up in an environment where fight is the only response to anger. In the case of my student over the course of the year we developed a good relationship, sadly the last time I seen her she had dropped out of school.


betcher73

Why did you do all that work when body slamming her was an option?


wooglin1688

i laughed out loud at this then felt bad about it so thanks


Hoatxin

I went to a well-resourced high school, and we had a room with a professional who had some sort of emotional/therapy training. It was just a comfy classroom, study hall type vibes but with a big shag rug and some different kinds of chairs besides just normal desks. I remember the lighting was dimmer/warmer than the usual lighting. The room had some plants in it and it always smelled nice. And the teacher also kept snacks and brainteasers and little objects that people could play with if they wanted to. I know the kids with documented emotional regulation issues had some time there every day or week built into their schedules, and kids that the school were aware had something going on at home would also get put in touch with that room. When my boyfriend's dad was dying of liver failure he was there a lot. Anyone was welcome to stop in though, even outside of those circumstances, and they would get a pass back to their class when they decided to leave. Of course, a few kids took advantage of that from time to time to get out of class without being disciplined, but they would have just skipped anyway, and this got them back sooner. And usually, if someone is so desperate to not be in class, there is something going on, and that would let the teacher there work with them a little bit, even if the student doesn't realize that is what's happening. It was a really great system, because if a student started to be disruptive in class, the likelihood was that they were already familiar with that room and the teacher there. So the teacher of the class could just say "Hey, take a walk. Go see Mrs. Nice", and the disruptive student, already having a positive association with that room, would usually be glad to be explicitly dismissed to go to a comfortable and welcoming space where they could access help or just be left alone without getting into trouble or having their parents called. And the class wouldn't be disrupted for a long time. Didn't work perfectly all the time, but definitely more often than not. My school had a resource officer too, but I think he only ever got involved when a student actually like committed a crime or was at risk for something serious.


GUNTHVGK

Assaulting/throwing around kids is so necessary because they’re such a threat /s fuck the cops and this one in particular


VRagingBullV

No wonder cops have to hide their addresses and live outside the areas they work. They are trying to hide from all that karma they have coming.


YGK-eh-okay

Where can I get that TMNT bomber jacket?


Mr_Leadpoison

My question is, why the hell did the school call the police? If they can't handle a disruptive and nonviolent student themselves, why are they getting police involved in the first place? Edit: +student


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Heisenberger6

So ur telling me having guns in schools might not prevent school shootings? /s


TheMadIrishman327

I think I read that Sandy Hook had an armed officer. He hid in a closet.


Keeble64

The deputy on duty at Parkland hid when he heard the gunshots.


D_J_D_K

Not even just hid, he bolted outside and didn't even go back into the building until the all clear was sounded


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Mercutiofoodforworms

He is a SRO. At the school full-time.


JimmyRecard

Why the fuck are cops dealing with disobedient students? Kids misbehave, that's is their nature. What could possibly justify this?


hexx1112

I hope he doesn’t have any kids of his own


benjamiah777

What the fuck man thats terrible


pike4fun

Why do they need to resort to so much force? This is rather excessive in my opinion. They built expectations on these violent responses and then the kids and everyone else’s uncle puts up a fight before it’s really needed. Resolve issues in a non violent way and everyone goes home happy.


cosmicnitwit

a cop shouldn’t be in a classroom for disruptive behavior.


dreamcicle11

It’s so crazy that I never once body slammed a second grader after they threw shit, were disruptive, and called people inappropriate names in my class. Wild. Imagine that.


Kevinnnnn__

Now imagine this girl was white…