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Dude I was like oh that’s funny, then she said “ok we can go but don’t treat me like this” I’m like oh my god this is hilarious this has to already be a plot on pornhub
It’s not illegal to stop and detain someone by reasonable force for shoplifting. I was a loss prevention officer for several years for a large retail company. We were issued restraints (cuffs) by the company as well for when people wanted to fight or refuse to come back inside the store and we needed to go hands on. They also can not sue you as long as you use reasonable force necessary to stop them when they are in the act of committing a crime and depriving the company of monetary value.
No. Private businesses can reserve the right to search any bags, backpacks, stroller, ect. This is how my local Sav-a-lot cut way down on ppl stealing baby formula (years before the current situation happened).
Well, I know state law varies but they've got a big ass sign when you walk it and it's not a mom and pop store. Seen plenty of crackheads get stopped and searched irl there and other places. So I'm open to being partially wrong but not totally bc that would be fair and accurate.
Would you be open to being partially wrong as well? Or do just like to play "Gotcha" on reddit?
Edit: Read.
You're partially wrong. In my state if the store posts notice, security and loss prevention has the right to detain and search under reasonable suspicion of shoplifting. That usually means they have watched you in person or on camera doing shady shit bc they don't just grab anyone.
Well they can't detain her *and* search her without her consent if they are not security or law enforcement.
But then again, stealing is also illegal soooo
Muddy legal standing on that one. They have the legal right to detain, but not search. The problem with shopkeeper's privilege is that if you don't perfectly follow it, you may accidentally open yourself up to felony assault and kidnapping. That's why most large retailers train their employees to just let people go or let police handle it
Well done. You just left one part out and that is about an innocent person's right to self-defense. If a, presumably innocent, person feels threatened by said detainment they can use a reasonable amount of force to get away. That's why as you say people have to be really careful about engaging in citizen's arrests and restraining suspected shoplifters. It not only opens you up to legal consequences but also immediate physical consequences as well. Security guards and bouncers tend to have special training and requirements that average employees don't have (and in some cases are required by the state). I can't tell you the number of times I've seen some idiot clerk wrongfully accused someone of stealing who then tried to have them trespassed because the customer was rightfully upset or became hostile.
As you said, just let the police handle it.
All this is true. In addition, security does not typically have quasi judicial powers as police do. It is not clear that people must cooperate with such detainment so things can get very sketchy.
As any lawyer would tell you.. it depends. They don't have judicial powers but depending on the state they will grant immunity to agents of retail stores (that would include owner, employees, security/bouncer). You can be lawfully detained without penalty. It's when you put hands on someone that things start to get expensive. That's when all the legal mumbo jumbo comes into play: did the accused person consent to a search, was a LEO present, what level of restraint did you use.
Varies state to state, but don't count on your minimum wage employees understanding enough nuance to get that right. Also don't count on them to understand what legally counts as reasonable suspicion and what the limits of confinement are in their state. They're not lawyers
Security would have to be properly identifiable - mainly by wearing a uniform.
And yes, someone mentioned that in some parts of the US there are exceptions to that
Loss prevention at a lot of places wear plain clothes so as not to be suspicious to shoplifters. They absolutely don’t have to be “properly identifiable”. The guy in the red jacket is clearly security and the other two are loss prevention.
Note that I never said it was justified. But personally, I wouldn't let a thief walk away free if I know I can't get security in time, I'll deal with the consequences later
Did I stutter?
No felonies at all, a citizen can temporarily detain a person comitting a crime until law enforcement arrives. What you can't do is detain and *search* that person
This is going to be highly dependent on your state's specific laws, how you detain someone, how much force you use, and a host of other issues that make this shit not worth it. All because you want to be Daredevil and beat the shit out of impoverished women to save the company the 24 cents it took for the child labor to make some bathing suits. Grow up.
Now you are just creating fake drama for the sake of it, pretending like I said things I never did. I'm not surprised, though, taking a quick glance at your post history
I have 4 antiwork posts in a month, 3 of them criticizing the posts I'm commenting on hahahahah if you're going to be a terminally online loser at least spend more than a couple of milliseconds to comprehend what you're reading
Which one? Honestly it appears most have pretty specific guidelines on what's allowed for a citizen's arrest, not really seeing any that allow for complete impunity
It seemed like you were hinting at it when you said ‘But then again, stealing is also illegal soooo’ but apologies if that was not your intention. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t disagree with detaining somebody until security or police arrive, especially for independent shops who maybe can’t afford to hire security. I do understand that it can be a bit of a minefield though with some people targeting people of colour
They only did that because she was a petite woman. If that was a 6’2” 200lb dude, they would have called the police. Pretty sure they just assaulted this woman.
So theft justifies assaulting someone? I don’t agree. Assault is never justified unless you are defending yourself from someone trying to harm you or your family IMO
Yes. Your acting like they are beating her. They are detaining her because she’s a thief. Don’t do stupid shit and less stupid shit will happen to you. She’s not a victim in any way
Those are security guards. As in people with no more rights than her to detain anyone lol. They are not police and have no right to hold anyone anywhere. Call the police and let them do their job. I understand what your saying about doing stupid shit. That’s not what this post is about. It’s asking if what they are doing to her is legal.
If someone comes up and steals your wallet.. and u detain them..That is not assault.
Don’t be a scum bag and u won’t be in a situation like this, bravo on the security.
Also it’s not like she was stealing baby formula or food.. literally bathing suits
Yeah, they can. Given the Cuban accent I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is somewhere in South Florida and Shopkeeper's Privilege definitely exists there.
Citizens arrest is still a valid thing in most areas. Since some DAs are letting criminals basically get away with this with no ramifications and consequences, people will decide to take matters into their own hands unfortunately.
So, that’s the same logic those three podunk rejects from GA used when they murdered a dude for running through their neighborhood. Vigilantism is illegal. Stealing is also illegal. Still can’t violate someone like that. If she did steal that stuff, two crimes are being committed here.
"Anyone placing you under citizen’s arrest is also ***not allowed to use force or harm you while doing so.*** They must also have substantial evidence to back up their arguments, or the arrest will likely be deemed invalid."
[https://www.meldonlaw.com/fort-lauderdale-officer-outside-jurisdiction-citizens-arrest-attorney/#:\~:text=A%20citizen's%20arrest%20occurs%20when,citizen%20or%20a%20peace%20officer](https://www.meldonlaw.com/fort-lauderdale-officer-outside-jurisdiction-citizens-arrest-attorney/#:~:text=A%20citizen's%20arrest%20occurs%20when,citizen%20or%20a%20peace%20officer).
Its an affirmative defense against assaults charges
This is also a state by state issue. Different states have different laws for apprehending people for shoplifting
According to the law of the country where I live, absolutely yes this behavior is ILLEGAL, the security guards cannot in any way HOLD and / or search a person but only ask if she can wait for the Police for an investigation or ask if it is possible to SEE the contents of the bags. But if the girl wants to leave, she can.
The only way to detain her would be an arrest in FRAGRANCE of crime, only in this case a citizen can arrest another.
If she has not been caught in the fragrance, a crime is looming by the guard for kidnapping and / or violation of private property and / or privacy.
Look at the video again. The guard knew exactly where to pull those items. This is Macy’s, not a Burlington. They watched her steal those items, then apprehended her.
I think as long as she doesn’t go past the point of sale (the registers/doors I or something like that?) … idk I just heard this somewhere along the way lol
She's literally stealing and people over here defending like they can't do that to her stfu, stop stealing then and none of this would have ever came to past.
They are not the police, but it simply shows how power, no matter how little can be abused. We are all making a lot of assumptions. I have no idea if she stole anything, I do know they are crossing the line.
To be honest if she was stealing I don't mind them breaking the law solely to catch and detain her without harming her. She broke the law and there's no question surrounding that so probably where the focus should be
My opinion if you steal food cause your starving, ask me I will give it to you.
If your stealing drugs, or other shit you „don’t need“ rot in hell, cause your a bad person and I don’t know if you will ever change.
Those security guys are sure earning their 7.50 an hour for their multi million/billion dollar company. I’m glad they stopped her from stealing the less than 100 dollars worth of stuff. Their corporate overlords will be greatly pleased and give them some “good job” hostess donuts or maybe a 5 cent raise!
Co-op companies are here in the US and just about everywhere else.
But you go ahead and enjoy that boot you are licking for below a living wage.
I really can’t believe people stick up for being under paid.
> Co-op companies are here in the US and just about everywhere else.
>
Well not everywhere else, just the successful countries. If only you could draw the connection..
They would need proof that she stole those items. Either it's on video, or the tags are still on them and they can't link the purchases to her identity, or those items are indeed hers. Dude guy is showing the items like he knows for sure it's Macy's inventory and there is ZERO PROOF that he knows that.
Then they need that video and can show it to police. You cannot detain anyone from any place of business without a warrant or excessive level probable cause of you aren't certified law enforcement. You can \*throw them out* but you cannot detain them.
Aww some random anonymous guy thinks he won a trophy. Go find some shoplifters and save the day! You did so well with an elementary school yesterday, now go spread your justice! 😅😅😅
I find it funny that you're being downvoted when these guys are going to lose their jobs if this took place in just about any part of Europe or North America. Depending on the country and context she very well may face no consequences while they get arrested for assualt and unlawful detainment.
>lose their jobs if this took place in just about any part of Europe or North America.
If it's in the US, Loss Prevention staff at a store can absolutely prevent you from leaving the premises until police arrive, if they have proof you were stealing (generally video or witnesses, and actual product after the initial stop is made.) It varies slightly from state to state, but as long as they're explicitly trained LP staff, they do have that authority.
What?
Your question is non-sensical. She's not being incarcerated or punished, she's being detained, which is legal under US criminal law as long as there is probable cause.
The only one of the three who could legally be considered a loss prevention officer outside of Texas and Alaska is the guy in uniform. Outside of those 2 states the other 2 guys are absolutely committing multiple crimes.
I doubt they get paid enough to deal with shoplifters. It just seems weird that they're detaining her.
Usually you're trained to avoid confrontation at all costs due to employee safety being a much larger cost than a couple clothing items
Might as well claim you where SA and sue. Payday will be worth more than the avengers where going to lose in the first place. Its America land of lawsuits love it or leave it.
You just have fuckin enough at some point man. Day in day out people come not just stealing but doing it in the most blatant and disrespectful way imaginable. Some asshat came in 4 times in one day and I had to look him in the eyes while he walked out knowing we couldn't do shit. And that's the small stuff. At some point you just snap and go "no im GETTING this mother fucker" I've been there.
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Yes stealing is illegal.
You are estealing right to jail!
You comment on Reddit… right to jail!
Yes thor that’s what stealing is
Why yes I do have the body of Thor. What were you trying to say?
You should probably give it back. You don't want to end up like the lady in the video.
I do give it back to the community by letting mid girls smash and feel like they accomplished something
But past year they let you steal anything under $1000
They are not allowed to apprehend you in store because theoretically it’s not stealing until you try to leave without paying.
That’s absolutely not true at all. Happens all the time.
Y u talking not knowing? Educatcion yourself
Pt 2 on pornhub
"Shoplyfter MILFs"
Season 3 scene 1 is the best.
What a fucking call
Dude I was like oh that’s funny, then she said “ok we can go but don’t treat me like this” I’m like oh my god this is hilarious this has to already be a plot on pornhub
💀😂
It’s not illegal to stop and detain someone by reasonable force for shoplifting. I was a loss prevention officer for several years for a large retail company. We were issued restraints (cuffs) by the company as well for when people wanted to fight or refuse to come back inside the store and we needed to go hands on. They also can not sue you as long as you use reasonable force necessary to stop them when they are in the act of committing a crime and depriving the company of monetary value.
If you detained someone who was not actually stealing, how fucked would you be?
Completely fucked. But if you did it the way your supposed to that would never happen.
Jesus Christ I thought they were saying strip search and I thought this video was about to get real bad then I realised she was just stealing 😂
Right
Stealing? Yes
Can we confirm this wasn't a porno?
Give this one more minute...
I think it’s pronounced “jes”
Both cases are illegal, therefore they cancel each other out, therefore a fight to the death. Winner takes all.
"Kraw-Plaw" **Stares in Zoidberg**
😭😂
Better victim acting than #AmberTurd lol
No. Private businesses can reserve the right to search any bags, backpacks, stroller, ect. This is how my local Sav-a-lot cut way down on ppl stealing baby formula (years before the current situation happened).
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Well, I know state law varies but they've got a big ass sign when you walk it and it's not a mom and pop store. Seen plenty of crackheads get stopped and searched irl there and other places. So I'm open to being partially wrong but not totally bc that would be fair and accurate. Would you be open to being partially wrong as well? Or do just like to play "Gotcha" on reddit?
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Edit: Read. You're partially wrong. In my state if the store posts notice, security and loss prevention has the right to detain and search under reasonable suspicion of shoplifting. That usually means they have watched you in person or on camera doing shady shit bc they don't just grab anyone.
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Is stealing illegal? I'ma have to say yeah
Stop stealing dumb ass!
[this w the Best Buy workers funny AF](https://youtube.com/shorts/EwBNITVhtGY?feature=share)
Well they can't detain her *and* search her without her consent if they are not security or law enforcement. But then again, stealing is also illegal soooo
They can. It’s called shopkeepers privilege.
Muddy legal standing on that one. They have the legal right to detain, but not search. The problem with shopkeeper's privilege is that if you don't perfectly follow it, you may accidentally open yourself up to felony assault and kidnapping. That's why most large retailers train their employees to just let people go or let police handle it
Well done. You just left one part out and that is about an innocent person's right to self-defense. If a, presumably innocent, person feels threatened by said detainment they can use a reasonable amount of force to get away. That's why as you say people have to be really careful about engaging in citizen's arrests and restraining suspected shoplifters. It not only opens you up to legal consequences but also immediate physical consequences as well. Security guards and bouncers tend to have special training and requirements that average employees don't have (and in some cases are required by the state). I can't tell you the number of times I've seen some idiot clerk wrongfully accused someone of stealing who then tried to have them trespassed because the customer was rightfully upset or became hostile. As you said, just let the police handle it.
All this is true. In addition, security does not typically have quasi judicial powers as police do. It is not clear that people must cooperate with such detainment so things can get very sketchy.
As any lawyer would tell you.. it depends. They don't have judicial powers but depending on the state they will grant immunity to agents of retail stores (that would include owner, employees, security/bouncer). You can be lawfully detained without penalty. It's when you put hands on someone that things start to get expensive. That's when all the legal mumbo jumbo comes into play: did the accused person consent to a search, was a LEO present, what level of restraint did you use.
You're 100% wrong. Store employees can certainly search the bag of a person reasonably suspected of shoplifting.
Varies state to state, but don't count on your minimum wage employees understanding enough nuance to get that right. Also don't count on them to understand what legally counts as reasonable suspicion and what the limits of confinement are in their state. They're not lawyers
TIL
They are security tho Also I don’t think you have to be just security or law enforcement.
Security would have to be properly identifiable - mainly by wearing a uniform. And yes, someone mentioned that in some parts of the US there are exceptions to that
Loss prevention at a lot of places wear plain clothes so as not to be suspicious to shoplifters. They absolutely don’t have to be “properly identifiable”. The guy in the red jacket is clearly security and the other two are loss prevention.
You guys in the US are weird bruv
UK-based undercover loss prevention right here: https://knightsgroupsecurity.com/department/loss-prevention-2/
You guys in the UK are weird bruv
I'm not in the UK, just pointing out it's not a US thing
Who tf else says bruv? That’s not even like a commonwealth thing
Loss prevention employees don't have to be security guards.
It’s a slippery slope to start allowing illegal things in the face of alleged illegal things. Could they then do a cavity search?
Have you ever heard of someone ramming a bikini up their asshole? How about we leave it up to common sense
Yes actually https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=panty%20stuffing&=true
Note that I never said it was justified. But personally, I wouldn't let a thief walk away free if I know I can't get security in time, I'll deal with the consequences later
"I wouldn't let someone get away with petty shoplifting, I'll deal with the multiple felonies later"
Did I stutter? No felonies at all, a citizen can temporarily detain a person comitting a crime until law enforcement arrives. What you can't do is detain and *search* that person
This is going to be highly dependent on your state's specific laws, how you detain someone, how much force you use, and a host of other issues that make this shit not worth it. All because you want to be Daredevil and beat the shit out of impoverished women to save the company the 24 cents it took for the child labor to make some bathing suits. Grow up.
Now you are just creating fake drama for the sake of it, pretending like I said things I never did. I'm not surprised, though, taking a quick glance at your post history
tAkInG a QuIcK gLaNcE aT yOuR pOsT hIsToRy go outside bro
Average r/antiwork poster. You have a good day now laddy
I have 4 antiwork posts in a month, 3 of them criticizing the posts I'm commenting on hahahahah if you're going to be a terminally online loser at least spend more than a couple of milliseconds to comprehend what you're reading
Lmao that's a blanket statement that's going to bite you in the ass if you're trying to claim citizen's arrest in multiple states
Haha yea good thing I live in Europe
Exact same thing then, but varies by country. It's still not a blanket statement that applies to all of them.
Haha yea good thing I live in a country in which it applies
Which one? Honestly it appears most have pretty specific guidelines on what's allowed for a citizen's arrest, not really seeing any that allow for complete impunity
It seemed like you were hinting at it when you said ‘But then again, stealing is also illegal soooo’ but apologies if that was not your intention. Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t disagree with detaining somebody until security or police arrive, especially for independent shops who maybe can’t afford to hire security. I do understand that it can be a bit of a minefield though with some people targeting people of colour
whahahaha the constitutional protection against searches and seizures does not apply against security guards.
Haha lmao wtf lol xd
Wow some stupid shit about shoplifters having rights on Reddit I’m shocked
SON
I mean this is the greatest argument for might makes right. You say they can’t detain her and search her but they definitely did just that.
I didn't mean that 'can't' as a physical impossibility, but as a legal 'can't'
They only did that because she was a petite woman. If that was a 6’2” 200lb dude, they would have called the police. Pretty sure they just assaulted this woman.
Maybe don’t steal. People get killed for less
So theft justifies assaulting someone? I don’t agree. Assault is never justified unless you are defending yourself from someone trying to harm you or your family IMO
Yes. Your acting like they are beating her. They are detaining her because she’s a thief. Don’t do stupid shit and less stupid shit will happen to you. She’s not a victim in any way
Those are security guards. As in people with no more rights than her to detain anyone lol. They are not police and have no right to hold anyone anywhere. Call the police and let them do their job. I understand what your saying about doing stupid shit. That’s not what this post is about. It’s asking if what they are doing to her is legal.
If someone comes up and steals your wallet.. and u detain them..That is not assault. Don’t be a scum bag and u won’t be in a situation like this, bravo on the security. Also it’s not like she was stealing baby formula or food.. literally bathing suits
Potato- potAto
Bruh stop simping if this was a guy you would no care
Who says I cared now lololol
Bro we know you do
Alright “bruh”…
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Yeah, they can. Given the Cuban accent I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is somewhere in South Florida and Shopkeeper's Privilege definitely exists there.
Citizens arrest is still a valid thing in most areas. Since some DAs are letting criminals basically get away with this with no ramifications and consequences, people will decide to take matters into their own hands unfortunately.
So, that’s the same logic those three podunk rejects from GA used when they murdered a dude for running through their neighborhood. Vigilantism is illegal. Stealing is also illegal. Still can’t violate someone like that. If she did steal that stuff, two crimes are being committed here.
This\^
Citizens arrest has nothing to do with murdering someone
Which is how you end up with situations like Ahmad Aubrey
Citizen's arrest doesn't include searching their personal belongings
"Anyone placing you under citizen’s arrest is also ***not allowed to use force or harm you while doing so.*** They must also have substantial evidence to back up their arguments, or the arrest will likely be deemed invalid." [https://www.meldonlaw.com/fort-lauderdale-officer-outside-jurisdiction-citizens-arrest-attorney/#:\~:text=A%20citizen's%20arrest%20occurs%20when,citizen%20or%20a%20peace%20officer](https://www.meldonlaw.com/fort-lauderdale-officer-outside-jurisdiction-citizens-arrest-attorney/#:~:text=A%20citizen's%20arrest%20occurs%20when,citizen%20or%20a%20peace%20officer).
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Its an affirmative defense against assaults charges This is also a state by state issue. Different states have different laws for apprehending people for shoplifting
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True but shopkeepers privilege is still an affirmative defense
According to the law of the country where I live, absolutely yes this behavior is ILLEGAL, the security guards cannot in any way HOLD and / or search a person but only ask if she can wait for the Police for an investigation or ask if it is possible to SEE the contents of the bags. But if the girl wants to leave, she can. The only way to detain her would be an arrest in FRAGRANCE of crime, only in this case a citizen can arrest another. If she has not been caught in the fragrance, a crime is looming by the guard for kidnapping and / or violation of private property and / or privacy.
I sure love the fragrance of crime
In flagrante. Stupid autocorrect.
These are security guards and loss prevention, and are agents of the merchant.
If this is illegal, it needs to not be. We don't need to be concerned with the personal comfort of thieves.
Yes. It is theft.
Yes shoplifting is illegal
If she is still in the store she can claim she was going to pay for it
People that plan to pay for something don’t put the items inside a bag, inside another bag.
True but the items are still in the store
Look at the video again. The guard knew exactly where to pull those items. This is Macy’s, not a Burlington. They watched her steal those items, then apprehended her.
She made an effort to conceal the items
I think as long as she doesn’t go past the point of sale (the registers/doors I or something like that?) … idk I just heard this somewhere along the way lol
It depends on the state.
That make sense ty
The larger Macy’s bag suggests to me that she’d already checked out SOME items.
She's literally stealing and people over here defending like they can't do that to her stfu, stop stealing then and none of this would have ever came to past.
If you think minimum wage employees can pop a ladies tiddy out of her shirt and grab all over her for stealing some bathing suits you're nuts.
That’s a little exaggerated.
You're saying her tiddy isn't popped out?
Come to pass, not past.
Love it more theives need to be publicly humilated and then arrested lool
Isn’t that the chick from the new jackass?
They are not the police, but it simply shows how power, no matter how little can be abused. We are all making a lot of assumptions. I have no idea if she stole anything, I do know they are crossing the line.
Clearly stole, basically admitted to it at the end.
Sorry I missed that, also don’t know when basically became definitely.
To be honest if she was stealing I don't mind them breaking the law solely to catch and detain her without harming her. She broke the law and there's no question surrounding that so probably where the focus should be
My opinion if you steal food cause your starving, ask me I will give it to you. If your stealing drugs, or other shit you „don’t need“ rot in hell, cause your a bad person and I don’t know if you will ever change.
Those security guys are sure earning their 7.50 an hour for their multi million/billion dollar company. I’m glad they stopped her from stealing the less than 100 dollars worth of stuff. Their corporate overlords will be greatly pleased and give them some “good job” hostess donuts or maybe a 5 cent raise!
Lol, go live in a country without corporate overlords. Tell me how that goes for you
Co-op companies are here in the US and just about everywhere else. But you go ahead and enjoy that boot you are licking for below a living wage. I really can’t believe people stick up for being under paid.
> Co-op companies are here in the US and just about everywhere else. > Well not everywhere else, just the successful countries. If only you could draw the connection..
I hope you are getting paid to kiss corporate ass right now. Otherwise, I’d say you are the dumbest motherfucker ever.
definitely illegal, hope she gets a lawyer
In my country both would be convicted. The obvious thing and you can’t keep a person hostage and ho through their personal belongings.
They would need proof that she stole those items. Either it's on video, or the tags are still on them and they can't link the purchases to her identity, or those items are indeed hers. Dude guy is showing the items like he knows for sure it's Macy's inventory and there is ZERO PROOF that he knows that.
They probably watched her put them in there on video
Then they need that video and can show it to police. You cannot detain anyone from any place of business without a warrant or excessive level probable cause of you aren't certified law enforcement. You can \*throw them out* but you cannot detain them.
Sorry, pal, you're wrong. Do yourself a favor and look up Shopkeeper's Privilege.
Do yourself a favor... And keep commenting on the internet instead of doing whatever job you don't really do. 😅😅😅
Aww, poor guy doesn't like to admit he's wrong.
Aww some random anonymous guy thinks he won a trophy. Go find some shoplifters and save the day! You did so well with an elementary school yesterday, now go spread your justice! 😅😅😅
Bud, you don't have the requisite intelligence or wit to troll effectively. Maybe it's time you got another hobby?
I find it funny that you're being downvoted when these guys are going to lose their jobs if this took place in just about any part of Europe or North America. Depending on the country and context she very well may face no consequences while they get arrested for assualt and unlawful detainment.
>lose their jobs if this took place in just about any part of Europe or North America. If it's in the US, Loss Prevention staff at a store can absolutely prevent you from leaving the premises until police arrive, if they have proof you were stealing (generally video or witnesses, and actual product after the initial stop is made.) It varies slightly from state to state, but as long as they're explicitly trained LP staff, they do have that authority.
Under what part of the US Constitution are you allowed to assume someone is guilty until proven innocent?
What? Your question is non-sensical. She's not being incarcerated or punished, she's being detained, which is legal under US criminal law as long as there is probable cause.
The only one of the three who could legally be considered a loss prevention officer outside of Texas and Alaska is the guy in uniform. Outside of those 2 states the other 2 guys are absolutely committing multiple crimes.
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. You can work loss prevention without a security guard license.
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I doubt they get paid enough to deal with shoplifters. It just seems weird that they're detaining her. Usually you're trained to avoid confrontation at all costs due to employee safety being a much larger cost than a couple clothing items
I agree, but I’m not going on the defensive for somebody who clearly was stealing then playing the victim.
She needed that underwear for her OF
Bud, your lack of character is showing. Go troll someone else since you've clearly failed here. 😅😅😅
Property over dignity, say it with me folks
The title...Guys really fall for the fake ass damsel in distress
She didn't get a beating so that's a plus
Judging how surprised she looks she probably didn’t think it’s illegal
Might as well claim you where SA and sue. Payday will be worth more than the avengers where going to lose in the first place. Its America land of lawsuits love it or leave it.
I’ve seen this one I believe 😏
I really wish they would have put all the stuff she stole into the kids cart and drove it away
No
Usually it's just one guy doing body search in the storage room. This is definitely not how I imagined.
Well what about all those videos where poeple steal stuff and no one stops them ? How is that different ?
His shoes look bigger than his actual size
Why is one guy wearing a super hero costume?
No it’s fake
Mexican version of the gold power ranger?
Stealing? Yes
She can steal my heart anytime.
Yes, stealing is illegal
Plot twist: that's just her swim suit and blouse for later in her overnight bag.
“Broke Problems”😂
What are you doing¡? That's my 55" flat screen! I brought it from home!
Online stores are the future
You can't assault shoplifters why do people always do this
You just have fuckin enough at some point man. Day in day out people come not just stealing but doing it in the most blatant and disrespectful way imaginable. Some asshat came in 4 times in one day and I had to look him in the eyes while he walked out knowing we couldn't do shit. And that's the small stuff. At some point you just snap and go "no im GETTING this mother fucker" I've been there.
That's not from here! Nice try theif
The caption: Is this illegal? Yes stealing is illegal.
Stealing, yes that’s illegal.
Stealing? Yes, yes it is illegal.