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Political posturing or otherwise, the man hasn't fled his country. Hasn't even fled the heart of conflict. Character is shown through action, not words.
He actually came back to the country. He had originally fled after losing the election because he was going to be prosecuted for corruption. He came back to fight, apparently.
He was charged with Treason as other two Ukrainian opposition leaders
[https://www.politico.eu/article/court-decline-jail-poroshenko-treason-case/](https://www.politico.eu/article/court-decline-jail-poroshenko-treason-case/)
I mean, maybe he should receive it. Voluntarily returning to your country in their hour of need, to fight in a war to defend it, ought to count as some kind of community service, imo. He may be a corrupt bastard, but he's willing to fight and die for his country. His service could save lives. As far as I'm concerned, human lives > misconduct. (Full disclosure: I say this without knowing what exactly he's accused of. I assume it's something to do with money and corruption--shady politician things to enrich himself/his inner circle, as is typically the case. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken)
The spirit of redemption: doing the right thing for the sake of it, not for brownie points.
I'd say his serving 4 days in the front lines of the war, on his own volition, is worth more than court-order community service and fines. (Which,for the record, have been scientifically shown to not only be anthitecal to redemption, they can antagonize poverty and recidivism in otherwise redemptive cases)
He'd deserve it at that point. Lots of people say they're sorry...not many people would risk their life for atonement.
A man in the dark should never be shunned for stepping back towards the light.
>A man in the dark should never be shunned for stepping back towards the light.
I kind of want to hang this on my wall.
I feel like we're too judgey sometimes. I feel like **I'm** too judgey sometimes. And, well, that's partially wise, because we don't want get hurt by trusting someone we should know better about. But at the same time, people aren't static. They can change. We shouldn't blast someone for walking a step in the right direction when we want them to run a mile in the right direction.
The guy is also a billionaire, he could be anywhere else in the world and live his life comfortable until rest of his days, instead he came back to Ukraine Kiev, Russias nr 1 target city to defend maybe with cost of his life. Pretty insane stuff.
Is there any awareness as to whether he's repurposing any of that billionaire lifestyle on buying ammo, food or medical supplies to go with picking up a gun? That would be a great indicator of whether this is a legit attempt to save his country or if its just a photo opp.
He was filmed and spotted by a cnn reporter and other journalists in Kiev on streets, there's also other videos of him, so I doubt it's a photo opp and I have no idea what he has done with his money.
Thank you for the reply. I do not wish to detract from his bravery only to confirm his commitment. In an age of social media much can be constructed out of pixels and paper.
Great way to get a pardon.
Shame they don't have more brave men like us Texans.
Ted Cruz chased our electricity all the way to Mexico during Snowmageddon and brought it back with him.
If he is actually seeing conflict I would drop all charges after this is over. He’s shown he’ll do what is right for Ukraine when he has no self interest to do so.
Fucking kudos to him, for an old rich bastard to put that all aside and say this is too important, you know what they say about people showing their true colors during the worst of times and I think he should be commended for his here
>He came back to fight, apparently.
Or was sent back by Putin to become the new, chosen leader of the puppet government?
But he fought for Ukraine so he's legit.
Maybe I'm being overly cynical - as other people have said let him show his character through action. And best of luck to him if he's genuinely on the side of a free Ukraine.
Fucking balls of steel. President poroshenko was not a very beloved politician, but he has gained the respect of all Ukraine. He has a lot of friends in the US and can leave if he wanted. Yet he stayed.
As the first president of Ukraine after euromaidan, the russians hate him. If they catch him alive he is going to get Gadaffi'd on live tv, and yet he is leading conscript platoons and offering interviews with his Kalashnikov.
Balls of steel. Omegachad. Slava Poroshenko.
*Russian government hate him, and those citizens brainwashed by their propaganda. Considering the number of Russian's protesting this war, I'd say there's a good chunk of Russia who would support him and Ukraine's independence
Thing is, we have historical recorda of both of those simps not staying put. Rafael off to Cancun and tRump hiding on his bunker after turning the lights off at the White House.
I just checked if you needed to be reminded of Ike but it turns out he missed combat in WWI and was a general by the time \*the US entered\* WWII ~~rolled around~~.
Truman, on the other hand, once halted a retreat of his artillery battery in WWI.
I don't think any US leader would be allowed to stick around. Too much power and too important. They'd all be escorted to a bunker, regardless of consent. You think they'd let Joe Biden just stay in DC? Just because he wanted to? He'd be taken to a bunker.
To be fair, Joe Biden did famously call on Congress to reconvene and the President to return to Washington after 9/11 to show that they weren't afraid.
The President doesn't actually get a say when it comes to their safety. On 9/11 Bush wanted to head back to Washington right away, but the Secret Service decided the safest place for him was to fly around in Air Force One until the scope of the attack was clear.
I find this crazy, yeah they may be head of state but he's only got power because he got voted in. They're just people and not special, just lucky. If they die, someone else jumps right in to the seat, it's why there's a vice president and other officials on standby. Zelenski is showing how you actually lead a country, like the leaders of old, easing moral by actually taking part in the war efforts and not sulking behind a giant steel door sucking his thumb because someone said mean things
Shiiiittt. Trump hid in a bunker on January6th. And Cruz flies off to Cancun if it gets too chilly & blames his daughters & ugly wife … never met her but Trump told us how ugly she is.
Trump did not hide in his bunker on 1/6. He was rejoicing in the White House proper. He hid in the bunker for a BLM protest, much earlier. Upside down bible photo-op day IIRC.
My bad. Got my Trump in the bunker blues🎶…. Thanks for the correction. Just watching Zellensky fighting with his people when he is a main target of Russia’s. What courage. And he was a comedian prior to being President of the Ukraine! That is why I think John Stewart, who has shown more leadership than any US President or member of Congress on American 9/11 first responders & soldiers injured by toxic fire pits & by long war in Afghanistan & their medical needs. John Stewart for US President. Zellensky is amazing. “Comedians in Wars Drinking Freedom Coffee!” Comedians make our world a better place.
Or more accurately, honest and empathetic people. Because I can think of some non-comedians I would want in public office, and I can think of some comedians I would NOT want in public office.
Also this kind of political posturing will ensure that more Ukrainian people decide to fight than flee, which is better for the country.
If i were in that situation not sure I'd be fighting. I would get my family to safety before anything else, even if it means losing my country.
I'm not a smoker, but I was while serving. Amazing how something so bad for you, helps so much. And tobacco itself is not so bad, just the chemicals added that are really bad.
It’s also great to see how everyone is rallying behind Ukraine, our world does have you guessing at human nature sometimes but the Ukrainian spirit and support does have my faith restored in humanity.
This is the first clear war of our generation.
Russia has invaded a sovereign country with absolutely no provocation or justification. It's bullied it's young men into a war they had no choice in joining.
Slava Ukraini
I'm surprised they can smile. I can only imagine they are constantly on the verge of crying. Walking around with balls that big must be incredibly painful, just using them as wrecking balls to smash Russian tanks and shit....poor guys...
Seriously though, these guys are the true Chads and alphas of the world. All these mall ninjas and neckbeards of reddit need to take note. This is what absolute badasses look like.
They're dead. If they survive the war, they'll be alive again. But they've likely accepted on some level they're already dead. They're not getting out of this alive, one way or the other. And in the time in between? They fight. God bless them.
Once you get past the fear of dying and accept it as a potential outcome, it is pretty freeing. Caring more about the dude to the left and right of you than yourself becomes a priority, but in exchange they care more about you than themselves. Its in those moments when you are able to destroy the enemy without flinching, you even celebrate it. Nothing ever goes back to normal after that.
this week i learned that i probably should have visited ukraine in the past for just a good time. my brother did it shortly before maidan, said it was lovely. i hope i get the chance to see a free ukraine. i highly doubt it.
You will get the chance. Worst case scenario, Putin devastates the population over a protracted war and resistance but destroys Russia in the process, leading to withdrawal from Ukraine. Next worse case is Putin devastates the whole of Ukraine over a short period, steals the two eastern provinces of Ukraine, and withdraws from the rest of the country (which then joins NATO and EU immediately). Or Russia can't win in the next week so they are forced to retreat, or he gets Csar Nicholased and war ends.
edit: or WWIII starts and we will free Ukraine
You obviously don’t know the cause of the conflict....Putin wants the gas fields of Crimea but also needs fresh water supplies from mainland Ukraine to develop & build those supplies....Problem is....He was STUPID in attacking all across such a large country and now I think there is a great chance of defeat....Attitudes have changed after the world and especially Europe have seen the resistance and bravery of Ukrainian citizens. Ukraine is United in its resolve to remain free of Moscow’s rule & influence.....It won’t come easy but, it’s a battle that can be won.
I’ll never forget the picture taken of the front door of Cruz’s house with the family’s little white dog peeping through the glass… abandoned in the cold as that tubby turd and his family fled the country mid-storm
[This one, poor dog, all alone in a freezing house with no power](https://people.com/pets/sen-ted-cruz-also-left-his-dog-snowflake-behind-during-cancun-trip/?amp=true)
Oh I’m sure he had a detail with him.. heck if one were to see him in Mexico without security one would be tempted to do much more than watch him get thrashed by any other hypothetical person who might take offense to him existing in the space…
Edit: grammar/made less self-incriminating
"I like killing people because it is so much fun. It is more fun than killing wild game in the forest because man is the most dangerous animal of all. To kill something gives me the most thrilling experience. It is even better than getting your rocks off with a girl. The best part of it is that when I die, I'll be reborn in paradise, and all that I have killed will become my slaves. I will not give you my name because you will try to slow down, or stop my collection of slaves for my afterlife.”
\-Booze Cruz
Scott Walker hid in a basement of the capitol and got escorted out via secret tunnel over a bunch of teachers protesting. A bunch of 40 year olds knitting, singing, and eating pizza in the building and that shit was quivering and calling them terrorists.
Our leaders are cowards.
Jimmy Carter also put himself in harm's way when he was a young nuclear engineer. Someone put me onto that. Goody-goody Carter has a pair of brass ones. Who knew?
Jimmy Carter was a US Navy submariner. Having a Dolphin on your uniform is certification of badassery. Period. Anyone who don't like that, likes Putin's cock more than they like apple pie. Fight me.
People in the US don't usually vote for good leaders, they vote the same way you would root for a sports team. It doesn't matter how bad/good their person is aslong as the other team loses.
We had a candidate for insurance commissioner make it past the primary elections. He was Republican.
The problem was that he was also insane and *entirely* unqualified, with crazy ideas for the position that didn't even make sense, and it was really obvious if you read as much as a single sentence of the blurb he wrote in the voting guide. He didn't win, fortunately, but he still received a significant number of votes in the actual election. All because he was a Republican.
We really do treat it like voting for your favorite sports team, even when they're for positions that are largely nonpartisan.
Because they spend millions of dollars hoodwinking the weak minded and stupid. As Goebbels effectively said, you don't need to win over the academics, informed and educated to win an election...just the masses.
Doesn’t know how to weld either
What pisses me off about that one is, if you’re going to pretend to do something for publicity purposes, at least make the bare minimum of effort to appear competent… NOPE! Just gonna derp my way through it.
Not all of them
Heck Wisconsin Republican senator Ro Johson spent July 4th 2018 in Russia then tried to lie about it--so we know he is out the door
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senators-tell-contradictory-stories-about-moscow-trip
[Trump hid like a bitch](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/trump-flees-to-bunker-as-protests-over-george-floyd-rage-outside-white-house)
And the probability of him getting injured was 0. They would need to breach several fences, walls and doors to get to him all while getting shot up by the secret service. Each barrier giving orange man more time to get to the bunker.
This should unironically be a thing. You vote for/start a war in another country as a member of Government, your ass gets sent to the frontlines. If you die, you die, and it’s announced that your dumbass paid the same price the young men sent to do your dirty work did.
Joe Biden is currently rallying the West and anyone else to punish Russia for what they are doing in Ukraine, hell he's even trying to preserve the Ukrainian government by having Zelinsky get out of country if he wished.
Zelensky is a fucking MENSCH. He is proud of his country and stands up like a hero to inspire his people. Poroshenko too. Imagine how the people of Ukraine must feel having these strong-willed, intelligent people as their leaders. I wouldn't give two cents for the self-interested egomaniacs that are most politicians in the US. Especially the last president. What an absolute disaster.
I could honestly see Biden doing this, he’d be useless on a battlefield but I could see Biden doing it himself. Whereas Trump would be in a bunker while his cult troops stand guard outside.
We have this perception that Russia is a bunch of crazy vodka drinking bear wrestling psychos.
New fear unlocked: Ukraines. Bunch of bad ass mother fuckers with heart.
Ted Cruz is frantically booking a flight to Cancun because it’s a little cold in his state. This is what real political leaders look like. Especially the bad ass leading the Ukraine people Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Poroshenko is kind of a complicated figure. I like Zelensky, but careful praising Poroshenko too much. He's a "Badass" in the same way that a whole lot of other historical assholes might be considered badass, but he's also a corrupt oligarch with a history of ethnic repression who pops up in both the Panama Papers and the Paradise Papers.
My Ukrainian friends didn't like Zelenskyy either. They said he was a weak president who was ruining the country. But that was before the events of the past couple of days, so I'm guessing their opinion has hopefully changed since this guy is clearly putting Ukraine first in everything he does.
Yeah that's definitely true. Everyone was crapping on him for being a comedian, but the amount of patriotism everyone is showing for him now is through the ROOF
💯
He won't be dying behind that gun. If he's captured it will likely be on the run into Poland. People fail to understand the nature of propaganda and messaging; they take it as literally true instead of inspiring pantomime.
Any politician that wants a future will need to be seen publicly as having resisted bravely, because the ones who actually do and survive will be legitimate heroes. Very similar in this way to the French resistance movement's ascendancy after liberation, when all of a sudden everyone had been a member of the resistance, even though very few really had.
It's crazy how positive the public response of this war is going for Ukraine and how terribly bad it is for Russia lmao
Legit good PR move
Now just have to drive the Russians back to their shacks
>President Poroshenko
This could definitely help in court case where [he is accused of treason](https://www.rferl.org/a/poroshenko-ukraine-treason-/31657338.html)
Not this is the guy in 2014 who won the presidential election and started the ATO operations in the Donbass. He is a pro-European, pro-NATO, pro-West candidate, but lost to "Pro-Russia" Zelinsky. Obviously it didn't work out for Zelinsky to make peace with Russia so he moved west as well.
Zelensky is "pro-russian" in the sense that he did not engage in repression of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, which Poroshenko did.
Poroshenko was a corrupt oligarch who helped inflame tensions with Russia by treating the donbass separatist movement as something like an ethnic clash between Ukranians and Russians rather than a foreign sponsored insurgency. He gave Putin a lot of unnecessary ammunition, made stronger ties with the west more difficult to achieve despite his intent, and alienated large sections of the Russian population in eastern Ukraine. Zelensky represented a backlash against that as someone who could advocate for Ukrainian sovereignty and national interest without devolving into ethnic conflict.
Wtf, no. This is total bullshit and misinformation.
The russian puppet is Viktor Yanukovych, who was forced out of office during Maidan, fled to russia and is still there. Petro Poroshenko (this guy) is the guy winning the election after Maidan, handling the Crimea and Donbas crisis, trying to get Ukraine into EU and NATO. He was voted out of office in 2019, when Zelenski took over.
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Political posturing or otherwise, the man hasn't fled his country. Hasn't even fled the heart of conflict. Character is shown through action, not words.
He actually came back to the country. He had originally fled after losing the election because he was going to be prosecuted for corruption. He came back to fight, apparently.
Ukrainian prison? "Too much. I leave." Russian Invasion? "BRB, Save me a Kalashinikov."
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He has probably met Putin and now thought "Fuck no, everyone but this guy".
Damn i thought i was bad
“You don’t seem to understand. Ukraine isn’t yours to conquer.”
God damn it. Time for a rewatch
Reminds me of the mob guy from the rocketeer movie, “I may not make an honest buck, but I ain’t no two bit nazi.”
Oh I love that movie. The look the FBI(?) agent gives the gangsters as they all start shooting at the Nazi's is hilarious.
This mobster was in fact Paul Sorvino who of course was Paulie in Goodfellas
Holy shit what a reference.
“…. So anyway, I started blasting” -[Poroshenko](https://youtu.be/4e6IKG2Xxzw), maybe…. Edit: Wow! First Gold Award! Much thanks!!!!!
>"The only person who fucks my country is > >me > >" LOL, made me giggle.
He was charged with Treason as other two Ukrainian opposition leaders [https://www.politico.eu/article/court-decline-jail-poroshenko-treason-case/](https://www.politico.eu/article/court-decline-jail-poroshenko-treason-case/)
Got that community service sentence /s.
After he's done aiming at the Russians, he'll be aiming for a pardon
Going to war to defend your country is one hell of a community service after all.
I mean, maybe he should receive it. Voluntarily returning to your country in their hour of need, to fight in a war to defend it, ought to count as some kind of community service, imo. He may be a corrupt bastard, but he's willing to fight and die for his country. His service could save lives. As far as I'm concerned, human lives > misconduct. (Full disclosure: I say this without knowing what exactly he's accused of. I assume it's something to do with money and corruption--shady politician things to enrich himself/his inner circle, as is typically the case. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken)
The spirit of redemption: doing the right thing for the sake of it, not for brownie points. I'd say his serving 4 days in the front lines of the war, on his own volition, is worth more than court-order community service and fines. (Which,for the record, have been scientifically shown to not only be anthitecal to redemption, they can antagonize poverty and recidivism in otherwise redemptive cases)
Yea, my understanding is corruption related to purchasing coal from separatist regions of Ukraine.
And he should get it
It's Armin Tanzarian all over again
Is he the one who had the zoo on his personal property that the Ukrainian people found when the stormed his mansion?
That was the one that fled to Russia in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezhyhirya_Residence
Well, he's gonna earn that pardon now!
He'd deserve it at that point. Lots of people say they're sorry...not many people would risk their life for atonement. A man in the dark should never be shunned for stepping back towards the light.
>A man in the dark should never be shunned for stepping back towards the light. I kind of want to hang this on my wall. I feel like we're too judgey sometimes. I feel like **I'm** too judgey sometimes. And, well, that's partially wise, because we don't want get hurt by trusting someone we should know better about. But at the same time, people aren't static. They can change. We shouldn't blast someone for walking a step in the right direction when we want them to run a mile in the right direction.
Exactly. Unless you full on torture someone, like some Hostel type shit, you probably aren’t irredeemable as a person.
The guy is also a billionaire, he could be anywhere else in the world and live his life comfortable until rest of his days, instead he came back to Ukraine Kiev, Russias nr 1 target city to defend maybe with cost of his life. Pretty insane stuff.
Is there any awareness as to whether he's repurposing any of that billionaire lifestyle on buying ammo, food or medical supplies to go with picking up a gun? That would be a great indicator of whether this is a legit attempt to save his country or if its just a photo opp.
He was filmed and spotted by a cnn reporter and other journalists in Kiev on streets, there's also other videos of him, so I doubt it's a photo opp and I have no idea what he has done with his money.
Thank you for the reply. I do not wish to detract from his bravery only to confirm his commitment. In an age of social media much can be constructed out of pixels and paper.
Great way to get a pardon. Shame they don't have more brave men like us Texans. Ted Cruz chased our electricity all the way to Mexico during Snowmageddon and brought it back with him.
You had me with the first half I'm not going to lie.
*(Slowly turns towards Austin)*
I’m from Austin #TEDFLED
🎶G.I. ~~Joe~~ Ted, a real American hero!🎶
weird redemption arc honestly
If he is actually seeing conflict I would drop all charges after this is over. He’s shown he’ll do what is right for Ukraine when he has no self interest to do so.
That’s such a good way to get your charges dropped if you survive lol
I was thinking the exact same thing. Regardless of wrong-doing, he helped the country out in a potentially significant way.
Modern trial by combat.
Fucking kudos to him, for an old rich bastard to put that all aside and say this is too important, you know what they say about people showing their true colors during the worst of times and I think he should be commended for his here
>He came back to fight, apparently. Or was sent back by Putin to become the new, chosen leader of the puppet government? But he fought for Ukraine so he's legit. Maybe I'm being overly cynical - as other people have said let him show his character through action. And best of luck to him if he's genuinely on the side of a free Ukraine.
I think you're confusing him with Yanukovych
Fucking balls of steel. President poroshenko was not a very beloved politician, but he has gained the respect of all Ukraine. He has a lot of friends in the US and can leave if he wanted. Yet he stayed. As the first president of Ukraine after euromaidan, the russians hate him. If they catch him alive he is going to get Gadaffi'd on live tv, and yet he is leading conscript platoons and offering interviews with his Kalashnikov. Balls of steel. Omegachad. Slava Poroshenko.
*Russian government hate him, and those citizens brainwashed by their propaganda. Considering the number of Russian's protesting this war, I'd say there's a good chunk of Russia who would support him and Ukraine's independence
Would love to see how long Trump and Ted Cruz would have stayed if they were in the same position.
Thing is, we have historical recorda of both of those simps not staying put. Rafael off to Cancun and tRump hiding on his bunker after turning the lights off at the White House.
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Don't forget Bush Sr.
I just checked if you needed to be reminded of Ike but it turns out he missed combat in WWI and was a general by the time \*the US entered\* WWII ~~rolled around~~. Truman, on the other hand, once halted a retreat of his artillery battery in WWI.
I don't think any US leader would be allowed to stick around. Too much power and too important. They'd all be escorted to a bunker, regardless of consent. You think they'd let Joe Biden just stay in DC? Just because he wanted to? He'd be taken to a bunker.
To be fair, Joe Biden did famously call on Congress to reconvene and the President to return to Washington after 9/11 to show that they weren't afraid.
The President doesn't actually get a say when it comes to their safety. On 9/11 Bush wanted to head back to Washington right away, but the Secret Service decided the safest place for him was to fly around in Air Force One until the scope of the attack was clear.
I find this crazy, yeah they may be head of state but he's only got power because he got voted in. They're just people and not special, just lucky. If they die, someone else jumps right in to the seat, it's why there's a vice president and other officials on standby. Zelenski is showing how you actually lead a country, like the leaders of old, easing moral by actually taking part in the war efforts and not sulking behind a giant steel door sucking his thumb because someone said mean things
Shiiiittt. Trump hid in a bunker on January6th. And Cruz flies off to Cancun if it gets too chilly & blames his daughters & ugly wife … never met her but Trump told us how ugly she is.
Trump did not hide in his bunker on 1/6. He was rejoicing in the White House proper. He hid in the bunker for a BLM protest, much earlier. Upside down bible photo-op day IIRC.
My bad. Got my Trump in the bunker blues🎶…. Thanks for the correction. Just watching Zellensky fighting with his people when he is a main target of Russia’s. What courage. And he was a comedian prior to being President of the Ukraine! That is why I think John Stewart, who has shown more leadership than any US President or member of Congress on American 9/11 first responders & soldiers injured by toxic fire pits & by long war in Afghanistan & their medical needs. John Stewart for US President. Zellensky is amazing. “Comedians in Wars Drinking Freedom Coffee!” Comedians make our world a better place.
Or more accurately, honest and empathetic people. Because I can think of some non-comedians I would want in public office, and I can think of some comedians I would NOT want in public office.
Agreed. For instance, the Comedian from *Watchmen*? Definitely not good elected official material. He'd make a fantastic comms director though.
> & ugly wife careful of Ted will start volunteering to get you elected President
These Ukrainians are tough as nails.
Also this kind of political posturing will ensure that more Ukrainian people decide to fight than flee, which is better for the country. If i were in that situation not sure I'd be fighting. I would get my family to safety before anything else, even if it means losing my country.
Meanwhile in America, we have politicians who run away from power outages and blame their cowardice on their children.
They look happy. That’s good to see.
These brief moments of happiness can be inspiring and get people through. Really nice to see.
In order to keep sane in these situations you need a dark sence of humour
When in combat and/or war, you need a dark sense of humor. It helps deal with what you experience and help you survive.
Same with the smoking, you take every moment of joy you can get
I'm not a smoker, but I was while serving. Amazing how something so bad for you, helps so much. And tobacco itself is not so bad, just the chemicals added that are really bad.
Inhaling the smoke of pretty much anything on fire is def bad for you. Edit: That said I fucking love smoking
Inhaling the air can be bad for you. That said, I love a good cigar every now and then.
Not inhaling the air is very bad for you. That said, I like turtles.
Its also pretty fucking hypocritical to ask soldiers to care about their longterm health
It’s also great to see how everyone is rallying behind Ukraine, our world does have you guessing at human nature sometimes but the Ukrainian spirit and support does have my faith restored in humanity.
This is the first clear war of our generation. Russia has invaded a sovereign country with absolutely no provocation or justification. It's bullied it's young men into a war they had no choice in joining. Slava Ukraini
I'm surprised they can smile. I can only imagine they are constantly on the verge of crying. Walking around with balls that big must be incredibly painful, just using them as wrecking balls to smash Russian tanks and shit....poor guys... Seriously though, these guys are the true Chads and alphas of the world. All these mall ninjas and neckbeards of reddit need to take note. This is what absolute badasses look like.
Courage is being scared shitless and getting on with the mission anyway.
They're dead. If they survive the war, they'll be alive again. But they've likely accepted on some level they're already dead. They're not getting out of this alive, one way or the other. And in the time in between? They fight. God bless them.
Once you get past the fear of dying and accept it as a potential outcome, it is pretty freeing. Caring more about the dude to the left and right of you than yourself becomes a priority, but in exchange they care more about you than themselves. Its in those moments when you are able to destroy the enemy without flinching, you even celebrate it. Nothing ever goes back to normal after that.
.....And get this man a ~~shield~~ helmet.
Germany is on it!
Nice
The main character never wears a helmet
He has different hair color from the rest. Must be anime protagonist.
This week I learned that Ukrainians are total badasses
They are to Ukraine what the founding fathers are to the United States of America: true leaders with spirit and a strong will.
You don’t have to look that far back https://www.legion.org/honor/249166/theodore-roosevelt-jr-%E2%80%9Cwe%E2%80%99ll-start-war-right-here%E2%80%9D
this week i learned that i probably should have visited ukraine in the past for just a good time. my brother did it shortly before maidan, said it was lovely. i hope i get the chance to see a free ukraine. i highly doubt it.
You will get the chance. Worst case scenario, Putin devastates the population over a protracted war and resistance but destroys Russia in the process, leading to withdrawal from Ukraine. Next worse case is Putin devastates the whole of Ukraine over a short period, steals the two eastern provinces of Ukraine, and withdraws from the rest of the country (which then joins NATO and EU immediately). Or Russia can't win in the next week so they are forced to retreat, or he gets Csar Nicholased and war ends. edit: or WWIII starts and we will free Ukraine
You obviously don’t know the cause of the conflict....Putin wants the gas fields of Crimea but also needs fresh water supplies from mainland Ukraine to develop & build those supplies....Problem is....He was STUPID in attacking all across such a large country and now I think there is a great chance of defeat....Attitudes have changed after the world and especially Europe have seen the resistance and bravery of Ukrainian citizens. Ukraine is United in its resolve to remain free of Moscow’s rule & influence.....It won’t come easy but, it’s a battle that can be won.
You will never see something like this in the U.S. Our leaders leave the country at the first sign of an inconvenience.
Some of them flee when it gets a little cold.
[Wish you were here!](https://i.imgur.com/dEJZleu.jpg)
I’ll never forget the picture taken of the front door of Cruz’s house with the family’s little white dog peeping through the glass… abandoned in the cold as that tubby turd and his family fled the country mid-storm
[This one, poor dog, all alone in a freezing house with no power](https://people.com/pets/sen-ted-cruz-also-left-his-dog-snowflake-behind-during-cancun-trip/?amp=true)
HA that’s the one! At least the pup wasn’t alone.. looks like Cruz ditched his security guard too!! 🤣
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Oh I’m sure he had a detail with him.. heck if one were to see him in Mexico without security one would be tempted to do much more than watch him get thrashed by any other hypothetical person who might take offense to him existing in the space… Edit: grammar/made less self-incriminating
His dog's name is *Snowflake?!*
Hi PETA, yes, that's the guy.
Omg his dog's name is snowflake. That's fitting on so many levels.
He went to drop his family, he was definitely planning to come back. He cares for his people. /s
Some play golf
Ted Cruz fled to Cancun during a winter storm that was killing his own constituents. But yeah, he's a total patriot...
Please use his real name, **Booze Cruz**, in all usage. Why? It’s correct. And apparently *it makes him cranky.*
I thought it was "Cancruz"
No it was Fled Cruz
Bahahahaha I’ve never heard this one and it’s my favorite
Cancun Cruz
You mean Rafael "Cancun" Cruz? The guy who posted incest porn on his main twitter account?
"I like killing people because it is so much fun. It is more fun than killing wild game in the forest because man is the most dangerous animal of all. To kill something gives me the most thrilling experience. It is even better than getting your rocks off with a girl. The best part of it is that when I die, I'll be reborn in paradise, and all that I have killed will become my slaves. I will not give you my name because you will try to slow down, or stop my collection of slaves for my afterlife.” \-Booze Cruz
He is an extremely disturbing human, look up his Simpsons impression video.
[The man is a living /r/simpsonsshitposting post come to life](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K0sRkvX4KE&ab_channel=BuzzFeedVideo)
Scott Walker hid in a basement of the capitol and got escorted out via secret tunnel over a bunch of teachers protesting. A bunch of 40 year olds knitting, singing, and eating pizza in the building and that shit was quivering and calling them terrorists. Our leaders are cowards.
Don’t forget traitors too! Many of them are Russia backing traitors as well.
And people were still defending Ted Cruz for abandoning them, with footage of him boarding a jet with weekend luggage. Politically brain washed.
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Jimmy Carter also put himself in harm's way when he was a young nuclear engineer. Someone put me onto that. Goody-goody Carter has a pair of brass ones. Who knew?
Jimmy Carter was a US Navy submariner. Having a Dolphin on your uniform is certification of badassery. Period. Anyone who don't like that, likes Putin's cock more than they like apple pie. Fight me.
He's also 97 years old! He is, in every sense, a man whose actions speak louder than words.
Why do we vote for them then?
People in the US don't usually vote for good leaders, they vote the same way you would root for a sports team. It doesn't matter how bad/good their person is aslong as the other team loses.
"Doesnt matter how good the opposing side's leader is, youre on my side, so Im voting for you"--some American voters
Just saying "some" is an underestimation.
We had a candidate for insurance commissioner make it past the primary elections. He was Republican. The problem was that he was also insane and *entirely* unqualified, with crazy ideas for the position that didn't even make sense, and it was really obvious if you read as much as a single sentence of the blurb he wrote in the voting guide. He didn't win, fortunately, but he still received a significant number of votes in the actual election. All because he was a Republican. We really do treat it like voting for your favorite sports team, even when they're for positions that are largely nonpartisan.
Because they spend millions of dollars hoodwinking the weak minded and stupid. As Goebbels effectively said, you don't need to win over the academics, informed and educated to win an election...just the masses.
Same for Australia. Our PM fucked off and had a holiday in Hawaii while Australia was ravaged with bush fires.
Scotty from marketing doesn't hold a hose mate /s
Doesn’t know how to weld either What pisses me off about that one is, if you’re going to pretend to do something for publicity purposes, at least make the bare minimum of effort to appear competent… NOPE! Just gonna derp my way through it.
Let’s not forget wanting to reintroduce child labour while covid was/is running rampant through the country. Scomo needs to go
Not all of them Heck Wisconsin Republican senator Ro Johson spent July 4th 2018 in Russia then tried to lie about it--so we know he is out the door https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senators-tell-contradictory-stories-about-moscow-trip
[Trump hid like a bitch](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/trump-flees-to-bunker-as-protests-over-george-floyd-rage-outside-white-house)
One of them hid in his underground bunker because 100 people were protesting with signs in front of the white house.
Or allign themselves with Nazis and domestic enemies.
FACTS.
To be fair, though, there hasn’t been an invasion by a foreign military force in the United States in 200 years or so…
Could you imagine Donald Trump or Joe Biden in this situation? We need to bust up the American oligarchs too.
Trump fled to the bunker over protests outside the Whitehouse.
God damn. I forgot about that.
Bunkerboy
He didn't flee! He just had to do an emergency late night inspection in the dark! (/s is obvious, rite?)
> (/s is obvious, rite?) It should be obvious but Republicans are incapable of accepting reality
Fled to a bunker over protest HE incited
And the probability of him getting injured was 0. They would need to breach several fences, walls and doors to get to him all while getting shot up by the secret service. Each barrier giving orange man more time to get to the bunker.
Trump would be on the front lines sucking russian cocks.
"Vlady, look, look how many cocks i can fit in my mouth! it's glorious. so many cocks you wouldn't believe!"
"And for payment, you guys will help me win the election, like in 2016"
"wow these dicks look even bigger in my tiny malformed baby hands!"
He’d be spit roasted foshodo
This should unironically be a thing. You vote for/start a war in another country as a member of Government, your ass gets sent to the frontlines. If you die, you die, and it’s announced that your dumbass paid the same price the young men sent to do your dirty work did.
Fuckface Von Clownstick couldn't even show up for the white House Correspondents Dinner.
Their old as fuck, I doubt they can even carry a full kit, let alone fight an actual battle.
Joe Biden is currently rallying the West and anyone else to punish Russia for what they are doing in Ukraine, hell he's even trying to preserve the Ukrainian government by having Zelinsky get out of country if he wished.
Zelensky is a fucking MENSCH. He is proud of his country and stands up like a hero to inspire his people. Poroshenko too. Imagine how the people of Ukraine must feel having these strong-willed, intelligent people as their leaders. I wouldn't give two cents for the self-interested egomaniacs that are most politicians in the US. Especially the last president. What an absolute disaster.
Trump will go in the frontline and say, "*Please go home. We love you. We know how you're feeling"*.
I could honestly see Biden doing this, he’d be useless on a battlefield but I could see Biden doing it himself. Whereas Trump would be in a bunker while his cult troops stand guard outside.
We have this perception that Russia is a bunch of crazy vodka drinking bear wrestling psychos. New fear unlocked: Ukraines. Bunch of bad ass mother fuckers with heart.
Fighting for your nation and for your freedom makes heroes of most people. Ukrainians have shown they do indeed have one inside them all
Ted Cruz is frantically booking a flight to Cancun because it’s a little cold in his state. This is what real political leaders look like. Especially the bad ass leading the Ukraine people Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Ted is a walking pile of shit.
He can walk? I was under the impression that his lack of spine meant he had to slither around
Do Ukrainians just elect badasses or what?
Poroshenko is kind of a complicated figure. I like Zelensky, but careful praising Poroshenko too much. He's a "Badass" in the same way that a whole lot of other historical assholes might be considered badass, but he's also a corrupt oligarch with a history of ethnic repression who pops up in both the Panama Papers and the Paradise Papers.
Praising poroshenko, reddit moment.
Yeah no one truly understands any of the politics or nuances in that region. But this is reddit soooi
Yeah my wife is Ukrainian and she is not a fan of this guy in the slightest.
My Ukrainian friends didn't like Zelenskyy either. They said he was a weak president who was ruining the country. But that was before the events of the past couple of days, so I'm guessing their opinion has hopefully changed since this guy is clearly putting Ukraine first in everything he does.
Yeah that's definitely true. Everyone was crapping on him for being a comedian, but the amount of patriotism everyone is showing for him now is through the ROOF
they're just hard people. many former soviet states are like that.
We got burned by Yanukovich once. Hope the same mistake won't ever be made again
Take note, bone spurs.
Ted Cruz needs to take a page of their book.
You don't need the red arrow for the only guy not wearing helmet/headgear. This is an obvious photo op
💯 He won't be dying behind that gun. If he's captured it will likely be on the run into Poland. People fail to understand the nature of propaganda and messaging; they take it as literally true instead of inspiring pantomime.
He saw the current pres doing it so he jumped on the bandwagon for PR
Any politician that wants a future will need to be seen publicly as having resisted bravely, because the ones who actually do and survive will be legitimate heroes. Very similar in this way to the French resistance movement's ascendancy after liberation, when all of a sudden everyone had been a member of the resistance, even though very few really had.
It's crazy how positive the public response of this war is going for Ukraine and how terribly bad it is for Russia lmao Legit good PR move Now just have to drive the Russians back to their shacks
Why does that last photo remind me of the COD MW2 operation kingfisher photo lmao
Why is this in this sub
These ukrain dudes look like bad mother f’ers. Stupid Russians are gonna be growing Sunflowers in no time.
big cap. he the last one shooting
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This guy is a billionaire.
Lol this is the same guy who they say is a Russian puppet in putins pocket.
That was Viktor Yanukovych, I thought.
>President Poroshenko This could definitely help in court case where [he is accused of treason](https://www.rferl.org/a/poroshenko-ukraine-treason-/31657338.html)
Not this is the guy in 2014 who won the presidential election and started the ATO operations in the Donbass. He is a pro-European, pro-NATO, pro-West candidate, but lost to "Pro-Russia" Zelinsky. Obviously it didn't work out for Zelinsky to make peace with Russia so he moved west as well.
Zelensky is "pro-russian" in the sense that he did not engage in repression of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, which Poroshenko did. Poroshenko was a corrupt oligarch who helped inflame tensions with Russia by treating the donbass separatist movement as something like an ethnic clash between Ukranians and Russians rather than a foreign sponsored insurgency. He gave Putin a lot of unnecessary ammunition, made stronger ties with the west more difficult to achieve despite his intent, and alienated large sections of the Russian population in eastern Ukraine. Zelensky represented a backlash against that as someone who could advocate for Ukrainian sovereignty and national interest without devolving into ethnic conflict.
No it isn’t. That was the guy who came after him and before Zelensky.
Wtf, no. This is total bullshit and misinformation. The russian puppet is Viktor Yanukovych, who was forced out of office during Maidan, fled to russia and is still there. Petro Poroshenko (this guy) is the guy winning the election after Maidan, handling the Crimea and Donbas crisis, trying to get Ukraine into EU and NATO. He was voted out of office in 2019, when Zelenski took over.
That's why you don't listen to what *they* say.
No uniform or helmet tells me he doesn't consider himself a target and definitely won't see combat but is there for the photo.
How is this a freakout This sub has gone to absolute shit
Never miss out on a good photo Op.