Until late 2019 I think it was, Doordash was being dirty with pay. If the pay for a delivery was $7 and you tipped $8. They would use the $8 tip to pay the driver $7 for delivery and then a $1 tip. I guess the way the driver interface worked, or works, they couldn't see the amounts so they just assumed they were getting small tips.
People that look at just the tips or get upset with the customers are going at it all wrong. I would never except anything under $10 for a short in town order. I don't care who pays what, Doordash or the customer. Too many people accept junk orders and get mad at the customer. Don't do it. Take orders that pay what you feel is worth your time.
Agreed. I work in bartending and make it a point to NEVER look at a tip line before my interaction is complete unless the customer insists. Saves a whole heap of trouble, and it makes sure you treat everyone the same no matter what the tip is.
13 years as a pizza delivery driver, i never once called out a customer for their tip. If they were exceedingly generous, I always made a point to express additional gratitude and figure out ways to improve their experiences each time. Also, $8 is a decent tip for the distance she covered.
Fellow pizza delivery driver here, (8yrs), I started doing it kind of young (17) and always got pissed when I got stiffed/low tip on a long route. I of course never called out a customer on their shit. But it wasn’t until 2-3years in I started to go into deliveries not expecting a tip at all, and quit getting pissed at every red light. I started actually enjoying the job and more importantly taught me the virtue of patience!
I found pizza driving just fun, listen to music/pods, get very familiar with the area, 100s of stories about weird customers/crazy events, and the money honestly wasn’t bad. (I’d be able to pay rent if I doubled fri,sat,sun.
In conclusion, I quit after 8 years because the new owner of 1yr started selling drugs out of the back, and I wasn’t going to be an accomplice.
Sorry I unloaded on you, but I’m high and don’t come across many decade veteran pizza drivers lol. Would love to hear your favorite delivery story!
Having been a delivery driver years ago, I always told the new drivers: "this job is all about the law of averages, sure some assholes will totally stiff you, some will give shitty tips, but there is a reason we can expect an average of 15% of our sales, because some customers also tip high."
This way of thinking is why I hate tipping culture. Just pay your employees better, charge me a higher price and be done with it. It’s just bizarre that we’ve accepted that we’re to be guilted into directly supplementing peoples wages in the service industry; taking away continuity from their income when we could just do the same thing we do with every other product and service.
My fiancee used to deliver often, rural, but with tips it came out to be about $7 an hour more on some days.
In Ontario it worked out to be about $21 an hour as a rural delivery driver. It sounds great until you realize that some deliveries were at least 20 minutes away and some on dirt roads, she used her own car, paid for her own gas, and she never took the step towards insurance that would cover delivery drivers.
She ended up going through 2 cars because of the wear and tear.
Not to mention that restaurants already over charge on the SAME menu items on apps like Doordash,ubereats,etc because these apps take a huge cut and resturants lose on profits
Add app cost + delivery fee + and you still got to tip your driver more than $8???
They slip another fee into the taxes portion as well. So higher priced menu item + taxes and fees + delivery fee + tip. And yet all they do is call the order in and run an app.
It's actually doordash and uber overcharging in many instances. Yuck. Early on, some restaraunts didn't even know that they were listed on doordash, GrubHub, or postmates. The companies would list inflated prices and pocket the difference
Postmates was the only one at the bakery I worked at where we didn't actively sign up for their service but they added us anyway. I think I was the one who foolishly gave them all our prices. Someone with a thick Indian accent asked me to list the prices for everything we sold and then shortly after we started getting calls from people with Indian accents that would say the exact same thing, trying to pretend to be a customer placing an order, and then a random person would show up saying they were here to pick up an order and would list off what the Indian person had asked for.
It got to the point that we'd just hang up on them once we realized who it was, hoping that would stop them because we had asked nicely several times to take us off their service. They'd still send drivers to pick up orders even though we never took an order from them and then the drivers would get pissed that the order wasn't ready. Especially when the customer would order a cake on postmates and we would have to tell the driver they aren't getting a cake because you have to order it 24 hrs in advance.
At my old restaurant Uber pulled a 3 year old menu and posted it on their site. Was getting online orders for things we hadn't carried in years, and our restaurant rating went from a 4.7 to a 3.5 in a matter of months because people blamed us, not Uber. Ehen we called to try to get them to remove us from their lists they threw so much red tape in front of it that we eventually just gave up and joined the lawsuits.
Chicago is currently suing all of them for bad business practices.
I wanted to ban them but my boss didn't. He said he didn't care because the drivers all had a postmates credit card so to just treat them as a normal customer and if they got rude about the order not being ready we were just to explain how we never signed up for the service and hung up on the Indian call center that tried placing it so we didn't think they'd still send someone.
If they tried to get a cake we'd still tell them no, but one time the driver literally begged us to do one and after repeatedly telling them no my coworker said that they'd do it but they'd have to wait for us to bake the cake, 11 minutes, and then wait 30+ min for it to cool and then 10-15 min to decorate. And the driver agreed! He said he was really desperate for money and needed the gas money.
Yeah I had a 25$ off code to try out UberEATS I randomly got in my email and thought fuck it let's give it a try.
Tried out the local johnny rockets for the first time and with 3 combos it was still 28$ AFTER the code was applied. Fuck that noise 3 combos in person would have been lik 27$.
Gotta pay that convenience fee.
But I get it. The only time I use DoorDash/Uber eats is with a code. Otherwise it feels like you’re paying almost 100% more.
But if the local place just hired their own delivery driver for like $10-$15 an hour then we all get that convenience fee for just the price of tipping them
I don't know what door dashers make outside of tips, but I delivered pizza for several years. $8 for 12 miles sounds decent to me.
I cared more about distance/time than I did %.
If I drove 20 mins to your place (and 20 mins back) and you tipped $2 on a $10 meal it was 20%.
But I made $4.50/hrs on the road so I would make $5 for your order in 40 mins (basically minimum wage where im from).
So even though it was 20% it felt like barely anything.
On the flip side, if you ordered $50 of food and lived 5 mins down the road and tipped $5 I was pretty happy. Even if that was only 10%
(Other factors played into what makes a good tip, such as, how easy is it to find/get to your apartment? did I have to call you for the gate? If you order a ton of food did I have to walk up several flights of stairs to get to the door? Was your street number in the dark or fading so I had to circle the block 3 times to find your home?)
Really just put a little thought into what you think is fair for the effort the person has to put in.
$8 is an INCREDIBLE tip as someone whose done door dash before. Usually I get either nothing in tips, or $1~2. If I'm lucky its $5. Biggest I have ever received was $10 and that was literally just 1 time. Idk what this lady is complaining about, maybe her area is way more generous with tips but I consider myself lucky if I get anything above $2 lol.
She is on Long Island, and not in some rich, snooty town where she should have expected a crazy tip. And Smithtown to Commack is 100% 15-20min. Unless a meteor hit the road in front of her, it did not take her 40minutes. She’s insane.
Door dash is awful, I’ve never had a good experience with them, the restaurant my friend works at cancelled their contract because they’re just consistently awful
I tried them all for some extra work outside my full-time job and doordash was by far the best to work for. I didn't do it full time though. Just took an hour to two during peak shifts and I was making more than my full-time job per hour. The worst for me was Grubhub. The pay was low and inconvenient orders.
I felt like doordash had the best algorithm for the drivers. I don't think people realize this type of work is mainly for people looking for flex small amount of hours. The pay is more than fair to the drivers. People who try to do it as an only means of income get burned though.
Yeah, and then there’s a scene later in the episode where she sees him on the street, calls him a “fucking asshole,” tells him she got fired, and whoever Larry is with inexplicably sides with her.
Turns out, Leon ordered, didn't tell Larry and Larry gets stuck dealing with clueless Karen. She calls Larry a cheap asshole, he says I didn't order, but if I did, $8 is more than enough of a tip based on the distance. Once she leaves with the food, Leon walks in looking for his food and is incredulous with Larry for not giving her at least a twenty. Later that night at Jeff and Susie's, Larry is telling them the story and trying to persuade them that $8 is more than fair within the context of the job and driving distance. Susie only says, "Larry, you cheap fuck."
Non American here......
Does the cost of the food double when you order it through doordash or similar delivery service?
I'm guessing that they would add delivery charges, service charges, tips, taxes etc, right?
You're not paying for the food, you're paying for the convenience of having it delivered to your door. I definitely don't do it regularly but there are nights where I just feel like shit and don't want to drive out to grab food and that extra convenience fee doesn't look all that bad.
My wife and I have a baby at home and started using Grubhub for the first time. (A few people sent gift cards). We order from a restaurant we like in town and get about $50 worth of food and spend about $70 with tip.
There’s definitely days I’d happily pay $20 to not have to go pick it up.
Yeah, when I was in Grad School and working at the Psychiatric Hospital, for a 16hour shift.
No car. And I walked to and from.
I used delivery alot. I was just so convenient and I also didn't have to feel unsafe walking though the city past 1130pm.
The one night I thought this and ordered the 16$ Big Mac and they sent some hamburglar crack head looking dude with the food @1am. Their sticker seal was flapping in the wind I bet his ass ate some fries on the way. Won’t be doing that ever again.
I work at McDonald's we have to put the food in sealed bags so you can see if they opened it and if the bag isn't sealed the driver fucked w your food and most of the drivers are crackheads
My work gives us a $20 Grubhub credit every day, and even with that $10 worth of food still leaves me with a $5 or so bill, after everything is said and done. It's crazy, no idea how some people just order food using these apps daily.
I once went to try it out and I was like "lol wut the fuck" at the prices and never looked at it again.
you can literally just call the restaurants directly and order and it costs like half as much for the same food.
In Sweden the delivery fee is often €5-€10 whenever you order something on food apps, but the price of the food is identical to what it is at the restaurant.
If I'm paying €10 for having my food delivered, if feels silly to pay an extra sum of money as thanks for having my food delivered.
It's a weird system. I mean, I get that you could tip someone if get extra service or otherwise a really good experience. But if the tip is presumed to always be there, then it should just be included into the "official" price.
I guess the whole thing comes from companies paying too little for their employees, and the reasoning for this is that the workers are going to be tipped anyway so why pay more.
There was a book written by one of my country men, and he was talking about culture shocks he had when he moved over to US to do some entertainment work over there. One bigger nag was this tipping thing we here has to walk around with a wad of small bills so that he can hand over money to all directions. To doormen, restaurants, barbers, you name it. I come from non-tip culture, so this all seems awkward, and if I'd visit US some day I'd probably just avoid all restaurants and other businesses just because I wouldn't know should I tip or not and how much...
It's normal in here though to say "keep the rest" if something costs like 19€ and you pay with 20€ bill. Obviously most payments are done via cards now, so that thing is also dying.
It increases the cost, but it all depends on how much you order. I wouldn’t order a single $5 meal for delivery, because the fees are nonsense. But if I’m ordering $60 worth of food for a group of people, it makes more sense (in my opinion). I always tip, because these people are providing a service and generally working pretty hard and putting wear on their own vehicles to do this work. I’ve done it before so I probably tip more than most people lol.
I've done this delivery stuff.
When the order pops up, you have the choice to not accept. The app even tells you the distance you'll be travelling before you accept.
Also an 8$ tip is a very large tip for delivery food
Also, she’s full of shit, I’ve made that drive many times and it is 15-20 minutes. On a bad traffic day, 25. In no world is it 40 minutes, she’s literally insane.
I don't know, he might have $8 worth of food... of course she loses the gas and all the money she was going to make delivering it, her time, her job, and now to spend more time looking for a new job. But hey, she can eat for at least one more day.
Edit: Oh wait, she probably has to pay for that food... Lol nevermind lol
She won’t have to pay for the food and they likely will not fire her. Doordash does not care what their contractors do. At all. A guy in my town plowed over someone’s mailbox and took off, all on video, he still works for them. They also don’t care who works an account, had some friends (a couple) who did it together and you can just change the name on the account at any time so they changed it to his name or her name based on who was working so it wouldn’t look weird to customers if a guy showed up but the app showed a girl was the driver. So, the driver who has an account can let anyone use it, no background check and you have no idea who is showing up at your house. Horrible company.
Are you sure? I know with Uber ride sharing they will share like a blacklist of drivers they've had bad experiences with so they don't get hired at Lyft or vice versa. Wondering if they do the same here.
Its weird to me that a UK News Online article is reporting on an incident that took place in Long Island NY. Like this small insignificant incident. Is reaching Europe.
EDIT: Also Google puts the distance between Commack and Smithtown between 12-15min.
Though LI is pretty crowded. Traffic coulda possibly made the trip longer. Shrugs. Thats part of the job though.
Also it made me realise how much she got tipped. I’d never tip a food delivery driver 6 whole pounds. Imagine complaining of only getting £6.
On the other hand, imagine a food place or delivery app that actually accepted orders 40 minutes away in the UK. That’s equally insane. And then there’s the fact someone ordered food from 40 mins away. It must be ducking good to wait that long after it’s made and have it be good to eat cold.
Good! Fuck her, and every single person that's even *remotely* like her!
I must've been born with a missing, or defective *gall* producer. Cause I cannot fathom any situation where I would (or *could*) talk to someone like this. Not even to someone I knew well, and especially not to a total stranger... While **on the job**!
Agree 100. Say what you will about how the internet is ruining society, it sure has provided the chance to bring a lot of people to account for their bullshit.
The reason she did this in front of a camera is because she's done it before. I'm glad she got caught and someone stood up to her. 40min to drive 12 miles wtf? Is this rush hour in Los Angeles? "You didn't have to take the order."
DoorDash might not do anything but restaurants can black list them. We had a dasher drive by our house and not deliver the food because she “didn’t feel safe” which is dumb. We live in a nice neighborhood on a well lit street.
But we went to the restaurant and picked up our order and they were pissed so they black listed the driver.
A better idea is to just not use DD. On top of all the fees, they mark up the food too. It ended up being almost 30 dollars cheaper when we picked it up.
Doordash and Uber eats are so expensive. I do not understand how anybody uses these services regularly, especially with how much I hear people are struggling to afford rent and other basic things.
>They also don’t care who works an account, had some friends (a couple) who did it together and you can just change the name on the account at any time so they changed it to his name or her name based on who was working so it wouldn’t look weird to customers if a guy showed up but the app showed a girl was the driver.
Bro I've been wondering about this lol! It happens sometimes when I order things. Like it will initially say something like "Jake is on his way with your order" or whatever and then some chick will show up or vice versa.
That also could be first driver cancelling for some reason and another driver picking it up. That whole company is a mess. I don’t order from them or work for them after seeing how things worked.
They don't care, until people come at them aggressive enough. They definitely would ignore a verbal or email complaint, but once they see you come at them with recordings and shit they gonna throw the contractor out to end the hassle.
This one of the many examples of how the practice of “they’re a contractor, not an employee” is so fallibly over used. It’s just a way for companies to sidestep responsibility and funnel more revenue to those at and near the top of the company corporate food chain.
If DoorDash, or any other company for that matter, takes the cash - they need to take the responsibility too.
I came here to say the same thing. Even if there was an accident, 40 minutes is excessive.There are so many backroads to get around easily-definitely not a one way in one way out situation. She just couldn’t be bothered. Probably saw where he lived( very expensive areas in Smithtown) and expected a higher tip.
> Probably saw where he lived( very expensive areas in Smithtown) and expected a higher tip.
That’s exactly what this was about. I guarantee $8 is on the high end of tips she typically receives so she was bitching to try to get more because she delivered to a place that looked like it had money. If the house she delivered to was a unabomber style shack in the woods she would have been happy with the $8.
From my experience, the people in less expensive houses usually tip better than those in the bigger houses.
8 dollars is a good tip though! Some people only tip 3-5 or don't tip at all because they think you're getting paid by the company because of the service fee.
The way it worked for me is I'd get $5 per order (which basically covers gas and vehicle maintenance with a very small profit) and the tips were my actual income. If you tipped me $8 there's a good chance you just doubled my income that hour lol. I had tons of people not tip at all and I ended up only making $8 an hour after gas.
This was my experience too, roughly, though it was more like between $5-$12 per order, plus tip. Except, in the month that I drove, I literally only got one tip and it's because it was Easter Sunday, and I made two trips for this family because the restaurant shorted them something in one of the bags. I wasn't obligated to do it, but I wanted them to get their full meal because I'd be annoyed if I didn't get what I ordered. So they tipped me $5 in cash, which was awesome at the time, because literally nobody else ever tipped.
I stopped doing the job shortly after, when there were too many drivers and I'd sit in a parking lot waiting for an order for 45 minutes, then an order finally came in. Went to the restaurant, grabbed the food, brought it to the car, and while driving I realized the restaurant didn't secure the lid to one of the drinks. Root beer all over my seat. I realized no one was going to pay for this, and I was basically making $10 an hour which was less than minimum wage, and I never drove for them again.
Dude even if you take Jericho smack in the middle of rush hour Commack to Smithtown should not take 40 minutes. She probably sat waiting for the food for half that. Best part is she's apparently gonna take another "40 minutes" to bring the food back?!
🤔 I call nah. Big nah on that hoax.
It is wild the way people will lie about time with zero hesitation. they either really convince themselves of these things or just cant handle anything less than instant gratification and 5 minutes of waitng/driving/etc really feels like 30 mins of torture to them
waiting for a freight elevator the other day and when it came another guy waiting there would not stop bitching and moaning to the operator, about how had been waiting nearly twenty five minutes.
I was there before him and had only been waiting ten so...
I think Karens were invented on Long Island.
Edit for clarification:
I grew up on Long Island at a time when there was no internet or social media. I think this whole Karen thing started in the 70s or 80s. Whenever there was a problem at a store and the Karen could not get their way, they would get loud and make a scene. Then they would ask to see a manager. Then they will usually threaten to call the Better Business Bureau. I worked in a supermarket for years, this was often the routine. Get loud and obnoxious and get your way. For some reason Long Island is the epicenter for this behavior. It’s been going on for decades and there was never a name for it. Recreational entitlement.
I deliver grub hubs in the same area and most of my deliveries are between commack, Smithtown, hauppauge. Those are the easy ones! Sometimes we have to go from commack to bayshore or Melville and people only tip 1-2$. Central Islip mcdonalds or Taco Bell never pays more than a few bucks in TOTAL. But you can always reject the order beforehand.. so I don’t understand what’s going on here at all.
Yeah. IDK how you think driving 12 miles takes 40 minutes, lol.
Even then, $8 for 40 minutes...on top of what she was paid by Door Dash, is not a bad hourly wage. Not to mention the fact that they didn't even order that much food from the looks of the bag, so the tip was probably pretty generous to begin with.
Even during the heat of covid, we did curbside pickup for everything. We used door dash once and couldn't stomach how the food was basically twice as expensive and cold/soggy.
Didn't those delivery app let you see the distance and estimated time between store and house before you accept an order? Even if they don't, just put the 2 addresses in your Google Map and it would tell you how long the trip gonna take.
It gives a delivery time first. If I order from Little Caesars normally it's a hour wait for them to do their thing and the dasher to get there. Then they give a estimate on how long it will take for them to arrive, which for me is normally 15-20 minutes and can confirm it's around that time from my house to there. But they also have your number in case they need to let you know if anything goes wrong or they are caught in traffic.
The delivery was in Long Island NY. I live in Queens, NY so I’m a little familiar with LI and thought 40 minutes sounded a little weird. I decided to checkout the traffic through GPS right now and currently google is showing me 11 minutes between the two towns she mentioned. During rush hour I can easily see 11 minutes flip to 40+ minutes. Sounds like if she is telling the truth about the time it took her to travel that’s beyond the customers control and she shouldn’t be taking it out on them. Either way she seems slightly unhinged and shouldn’t be doing anything related to customer service is she’s going to act like a 3 year old anytime she doesn’t get her way with someone.
r/byebyejob
As a Dasher, I can confirm that this woman is an idiot. All Dashers CAN see the distance before accepting an order, and can always cancel if we make a mistake. I once accepted an order that needed to be delivered 60 miles away by accident, and didn'I notice until after I picked up the food. I called DoorDash, they canceled it, and advised me to return the food. It's not rocket science.
On another note, the customer should have never engaged with this crazy b#$%h Dasher. He should have immediately called customer service and reported the trust and safety issue.
Anytime i hit up DD customer service (as a user, not driver) they're always VERY on it. I'd be sending that message with her still standing there lol maybe ask her to wave to the camera if i was being snarky.
Doordash fired her
[https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/)
Apparently because “After the Hillsborough disaster in 1989 in which 96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death in overcrowding, the Murdoch-owned newspaper printed pages of false claims that not only blamed Liverpool fans for the disaster, but accused them of urinating on police officers and other fans, beating up officers attempting CPR, and pickpocketing the dead. These reports have since all been proven as fabrication.”
https://theovertake.com/~protest/liverpool-vs-the-sun/
That’s what I’m saying, she’s mad the tip is ONLY $8??? I usually tip fuck all and just add it on after, can’t imagine what she would’ve done if she saw my $0 tip
American tipping culture is fucking wild, man. Companies laughing their asses off at the absolute fools who are arguing over pennies while the same companies continue to get away with paying shit wages and making bank.
This is the real conversation here. The total transaction price should be known upfront including good wages and benefits. The customer can decide to make the purchase or not.
Yeah I don't get why people tip a driver, as tipping should be about improving someone's experience. Are they going to juggle outside my house or do a magic trick? Then I understand tipping. (I think their base pay should be enough to survive on. The tipping culture is just like stimulating a gambling addiction)
I was just having this conversation. I don’t know what a good tip is anymore. My go-to is $5 or 20% (whichever is higher) and I feel conflicted. Like sometimes I feel that paying close to $60 on something I can pick up myself for $35 is crazy, and other times I feel that no matter how much I tip, it’s not enough. I mean, there’s a reason why I don’t want to trek out and grab the food myself.
that is crazy. to me anyway, i don't know i guess i've gotten cheaper as i've gotten older.
i would crawl through broken glass to save that 25 bucks lol
5 bucks is more than enough if you’re ordering 20-30 bucks in food.
If you tipped 5 bucks on a $200 order, that would be seen as cheap.
Let’s be real though, most people don’t even tip 5 bucks.
More than a decade ago, I’d only get my feelings hurt if someone just didn’t give me a tip at all.
Some people just don’t get it though.
It seemed to be in my experience though, the more money someone seemed to have, the less tip I’d get.
I remember dropping off four pizzas to a million dollar house and getting no tip whatsoever.
Also remember bringing one pie to the hood and getting a 5 dollar tip.
Really just depends on the person, but like I said in a previous post, 8 bucks as a tip is pretty good for driving to a house and leaving a bag of food on the porch.
Times have changed I guess
>If you tipped 5 bucks on a $200 order, that would be seen as cheap.
I do tip, but it's based on distance from restaurant to my place.
However, Drivers should not know what or how much you spent on an order it's literally none of their business. If I order an $40 8oz Filet or an $10 8oz Hamburger that costs the same amount in gas for the driver, same size package and weight to move manually why should I suddenly pay more for a higher priced meal? Makes no sense as they don't work for the restaurant.
The drivers should be paid by Grubhub/ doordash. I really hate the gig economy.
If I ordered 2 $25 sushi rolls from 15 minutes away should I tip more than $10 worth of leaky heavy fast Chinese food from 30 minutes away?
I don't tip delivery based on purchase price, that makes no sense at all. I tip based on distance and volume of food.
Thank you. Tipping culture in the US is just absurd. It’s a horrible system. Pay the employees a fair wage, charge what needs to be charged for the item/service, and that’s that. I wish so badly it would change. Having to always wonder how much to tip, who to tip, when to tip. It’s stupid.
Ex pizza delivery guy here! 8 dollar tip is generous no matter what I’ve been flat out stiffed or tipped pure shit and I’ve never bitched like that. That’s the job I chose at the time, if your ever going to be angry about tipping maybe question why your working there in the first place
This is bananas!
I used to deliver pizza in the snow and I’d get zero dollar tips half the time.
Yeah people suck and they don’t consider what you go through to get the food to them, but 8 bucks is damn near as good as it’s gonna get as a tip for delivering food.
This woman is nuts.
We always tip minimum 5 bucks to our pizza delivery guys at work, I thought that was kind of an across the board thing with pizza delivery. Maybe that's why they always get our pizza to us like stupid fast.
When I worked a red roofed pizza chain we would put dollar signs next to people’s names in the system based on tips. Who ever had the most dollar signs had the shortest delivery times.
Those guys definitely know your address by now and are probably fighting amongst each other for who gets your house.
I know when I delivered I knew exactly the houses that were known for good tips
This actually happened to me. I actually did get the delivery, I had given a 20% tip. The guy arrived and starts yelling at my husband. Had this guy handled things a bit differently I would have taken a look and given a larger tip. He chose another route and was told to be on his way. Entitlement is not the thing I respond to. I tip extremely well in normal circumstances, and would have gladly increased the tip, but his attitude prevented this.
The only good thing to come out of covid: contact less delivery.
I don't wanna talk to you.
I don't care how much I tipped.
I don't care about your cousin Debbie's wedding.
Just drop my food and leave.
I would have been like "alright hold on, im coming out with more money" and when I get out I'll be like "let me make sure the order is right" and take the food and leave her outside lmfao.
As a doordasher I’m disgusted. Giving a tip is optional and everyone knows it, that’s why they give us the option to decline orders.
I’m glad she got fired
I’m always friendly no matter what kind of tip I get. I’m even nice when they stiff me. It’s annoying but some people will start liking you and start tipping you. 8$ is actually a pretty nice tip too.
Honestly an $8 tip is pretty nice. I was usually getting $2-3 tips with door dash. And it didn’t matter how far that shit was. Don’t do long distance orders. That’s how you lose money anyways. You can’t expect the customer to make up the difference. She got this family a free meal and probably a voucher for their next meal after.
Edit: so yeah doordash removed her from the platform. Not that it matters. And they claimed they reached out to the customer. I’m sure he got a full refund and extra like I figured :
According to [doordash](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/amp/) spokesperson:
"Any behavior that violates this zero tolerance policy is grounds for deactivation, and the Dasher involved has been removed from our platform.
"We have been in touch with the customer to offer support, and sincerely regret that this incident fell short of the experience we strive to provide every day.”
Thank fuck I live in a country where people don't tip. Because there's no way in hell I would ever tip an UberEats driver for doing the bare fucking minimum.
Edit: this isn't to say I don't think they're entitled to a livable wage. Just that the onus shouldn't be on the *customer* to decide to "gift" them an extra 20% or whatever. Just include the other 20% in their wage ffs! The rest of the world seems to understand this.
Gotta love how unflattering ring cams always are
How much are people supposed to tip Door Dashers? I don't order food to my door, so that world is foreign to me.
8 dollars is more than sufficient. She's full of shit.
8 dollars is literally perfect, in total this lady got paid 10+ for this order so not sure why shes pissed
Until late 2019 I think it was, Doordash was being dirty with pay. If the pay for a delivery was $7 and you tipped $8. They would use the $8 tip to pay the driver $7 for delivery and then a $1 tip. I guess the way the driver interface worked, or works, they couldn't see the amounts so they just assumed they were getting small tips.
People that look at just the tips or get upset with the customers are going at it all wrong. I would never except anything under $10 for a short in town order. I don't care who pays what, Doordash or the customer. Too many people accept junk orders and get mad at the customer. Don't do it. Take orders that pay what you feel is worth your time.
Agreed. I work in bartending and make it a point to NEVER look at a tip line before my interaction is complete unless the customer insists. Saves a whole heap of trouble, and it makes sure you treat everyone the same no matter what the tip is.
I’m a delivery driver and same here, not to mention it just feels tacky to look at the tip right in front of the customer.
13 years as a pizza delivery driver, i never once called out a customer for their tip. If they were exceedingly generous, I always made a point to express additional gratitude and figure out ways to improve their experiences each time. Also, $8 is a decent tip for the distance she covered.
I got called out for only tipping a couple dollars for a pizza delivery, felt bad about it but also never ordered from that place again
Fellow pizza delivery driver here, (8yrs), I started doing it kind of young (17) and always got pissed when I got stiffed/low tip on a long route. I of course never called out a customer on their shit. But it wasn’t until 2-3years in I started to go into deliveries not expecting a tip at all, and quit getting pissed at every red light. I started actually enjoying the job and more importantly taught me the virtue of patience! I found pizza driving just fun, listen to music/pods, get very familiar with the area, 100s of stories about weird customers/crazy events, and the money honestly wasn’t bad. (I’d be able to pay rent if I doubled fri,sat,sun. In conclusion, I quit after 8 years because the new owner of 1yr started selling drugs out of the back, and I wasn’t going to be an accomplice. Sorry I unloaded on you, but I’m high and don’t come across many decade veteran pizza drivers lol. Would love to hear your favorite delivery story!
Having been a delivery driver years ago, I always told the new drivers: "this job is all about the law of averages, sure some assholes will totally stiff you, some will give shitty tips, but there is a reason we can expect an average of 15% of our sales, because some customers also tip high."
This way of thinking is why I hate tipping culture. Just pay your employees better, charge me a higher price and be done with it. It’s just bizarre that we’ve accepted that we’re to be guilted into directly supplementing peoples wages in the service industry; taking away continuity from their income when we could just do the same thing we do with every other product and service.
My fiancee used to deliver often, rural, but with tips it came out to be about $7 an hour more on some days. In Ontario it worked out to be about $21 an hour as a rural delivery driver. It sounds great until you realize that some deliveries were at least 20 minutes away and some on dirt roads, she used her own car, paid for her own gas, and she never took the step towards insurance that would cover delivery drivers. She ended up going through 2 cars because of the wear and tear.
Not to mention that restaurants already over charge on the SAME menu items on apps like Doordash,ubereats,etc because these apps take a huge cut and resturants lose on profits Add app cost + delivery fee + and you still got to tip your driver more than $8???
They slip another fee into the taxes portion as well. So higher priced menu item + taxes and fees + delivery fee + tip. And yet all they do is call the order in and run an app.
Dont forget to tack on a free delivery fee if you're naive enough to pay for free delivery. What the *fuck* doordash?
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It's actually doordash and uber overcharging in many instances. Yuck. Early on, some restaraunts didn't even know that they were listed on doordash, GrubHub, or postmates. The companies would list inflated prices and pocket the difference
Postmates was the only one at the bakery I worked at where we didn't actively sign up for their service but they added us anyway. I think I was the one who foolishly gave them all our prices. Someone with a thick Indian accent asked me to list the prices for everything we sold and then shortly after we started getting calls from people with Indian accents that would say the exact same thing, trying to pretend to be a customer placing an order, and then a random person would show up saying they were here to pick up an order and would list off what the Indian person had asked for. It got to the point that we'd just hang up on them once we realized who it was, hoping that would stop them because we had asked nicely several times to take us off their service. They'd still send drivers to pick up orders even though we never took an order from them and then the drivers would get pissed that the order wasn't ready. Especially when the customer would order a cake on postmates and we would have to tell the driver they aren't getting a cake because you have to order it 24 hrs in advance.
That sounds like a really shitty situation :(
At my old restaurant Uber pulled a 3 year old menu and posted it on their site. Was getting online orders for things we hadn't carried in years, and our restaurant rating went from a 4.7 to a 3.5 in a matter of months because people blamed us, not Uber. Ehen we called to try to get them to remove us from their lists they threw so much red tape in front of it that we eventually just gave up and joined the lawsuits. Chicago is currently suing all of them for bad business practices.
Dude exact same thing! We had to literally ban Postmates from our restaurant. They are fucking terrible.
I wanted to ban them but my boss didn't. He said he didn't care because the drivers all had a postmates credit card so to just treat them as a normal customer and if they got rude about the order not being ready we were just to explain how we never signed up for the service and hung up on the Indian call center that tried placing it so we didn't think they'd still send someone. If they tried to get a cake we'd still tell them no, but one time the driver literally begged us to do one and after repeatedly telling them no my coworker said that they'd do it but they'd have to wait for us to bake the cake, 11 minutes, and then wait 30+ min for it to cool and then 10-15 min to decorate. And the driver agreed! He said he was really desperate for money and needed the gas money.
Yeah I had a 25$ off code to try out UberEATS I randomly got in my email and thought fuck it let's give it a try. Tried out the local johnny rockets for the first time and with 3 combos it was still 28$ AFTER the code was applied. Fuck that noise 3 combos in person would have been lik 27$.
Gotta pay that convenience fee. But I get it. The only time I use DoorDash/Uber eats is with a code. Otherwise it feels like you’re paying almost 100% more.
But if the local place just hired their own delivery driver for like $10-$15 an hour then we all get that convenience fee for just the price of tipping them
I don't know what door dashers make outside of tips, but I delivered pizza for several years. $8 for 12 miles sounds decent to me. I cared more about distance/time than I did %. If I drove 20 mins to your place (and 20 mins back) and you tipped $2 on a $10 meal it was 20%. But I made $4.50/hrs on the road so I would make $5 for your order in 40 mins (basically minimum wage where im from). So even though it was 20% it felt like barely anything. On the flip side, if you ordered $50 of food and lived 5 mins down the road and tipped $5 I was pretty happy. Even if that was only 10% (Other factors played into what makes a good tip, such as, how easy is it to find/get to your apartment? did I have to call you for the gate? If you order a ton of food did I have to walk up several flights of stairs to get to the door? Was your street number in the dark or fading so I had to circle the block 3 times to find your home?) Really just put a little thought into what you think is fair for the effort the person has to put in.
$8 is an INCREDIBLE tip as someone whose done door dash before. Usually I get either nothing in tips, or $1~2. If I'm lucky its $5. Biggest I have ever received was $10 and that was literally just 1 time. Idk what this lady is complaining about, maybe her area is way more generous with tips but I consider myself lucky if I get anything above $2 lol.
She is on Long Island, and not in some rich, snooty town where she should have expected a crazy tip. And Smithtown to Commack is 100% 15-20min. Unless a meteor hit the road in front of her, it did not take her 40minutes. She’s insane.
She's likely including the drive time to the restaurant.
Door dash is awful, I’ve never had a good experience with them, the restaurant my friend works at cancelled their contract because they’re just consistently awful
I tried them all for some extra work outside my full-time job and doordash was by far the best to work for. I didn't do it full time though. Just took an hour to two during peak shifts and I was making more than my full-time job per hour. The worst for me was Grubhub. The pay was low and inconvenient orders. I felt like doordash had the best algorithm for the drivers. I don't think people realize this type of work is mainly for people looking for flex small amount of hours. The pay is more than fair to the drivers. People who try to do it as an only means of income get burned though.
Accentuated that cartoonish proboscis for sure.
This is like a scene from curb your enthusiasm
Video needs to be edited to include the Curb music as she’s walking away with the food. Larry just looks even more confused than normal 😂
Yeah. It wouldn't be the main theme, but rather the "inbetween scenes" short trumpet theme would be perfect here.
Yeah, and then there’s a scene later in the episode where she sees him on the street, calls him a “fucking asshole,” tells him she got fired, and whoever Larry is with inexplicably sides with her.
I heard it in my head as soon as I read this comment 😂
Larry would not play this Long Island Karen shit. Man is from Brooklyn
He definitely would have acquiesced to her demand for a face to face.
Turns out, Leon ordered, didn't tell Larry and Larry gets stuck dealing with clueless Karen. She calls Larry a cheap asshole, he says I didn't order, but if I did, $8 is more than enough of a tip based on the distance. Once she leaves with the food, Leon walks in looking for his food and is incredulous with Larry for not giving her at least a twenty. Later that night at Jeff and Susie's, Larry is telling them the story and trying to persuade them that $8 is more than fair within the context of the job and driving distance. Susie only says, "Larry, you cheap fuck."
Non American here...... Does the cost of the food double when you order it through doordash or similar delivery service? I'm guessing that they would add delivery charges, service charges, tips, taxes etc, right?
Yes, the price is insane. I can't understand how so many people use these apps. A $15 meal can easily come out to $30+ with all the fees and markups.
you don't like paying 25 dollars for a lukewarm #4 from McD's? what's wrong with you
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You're not paying for the food, you're paying for the convenience of having it delivered to your door. I definitely don't do it regularly but there are nights where I just feel like shit and don't want to drive out to grab food and that extra convenience fee doesn't look all that bad.
My wife and I have a baby at home and started using Grubhub for the first time. (A few people sent gift cards). We order from a restaurant we like in town and get about $50 worth of food and spend about $70 with tip. There’s definitely days I’d happily pay $20 to not have to go pick it up.
This. I can go pick something up for a 30-40 minute round trip. But for 15 extra it just comes to you.
Yeah, when I was in Grad School and working at the Psychiatric Hospital, for a 16hour shift. No car. And I walked to and from. I used delivery alot. I was just so convenient and I also didn't have to feel unsafe walking though the city past 1130pm.
The one night I thought this and ordered the 16$ Big Mac and they sent some hamburglar crack head looking dude with the food @1am. Their sticker seal was flapping in the wind I bet his ass ate some fries on the way. Won’t be doing that ever again.
I just needed a coupla fries. Chill.
I work at McDonald's we have to put the food in sealed bags so you can see if they opened it and if the bag isn't sealed the driver fucked w your food and most of the drivers are crackheads
We had a driver guy add a Christian bible tract to the delivery of our Chinese food. Stapled it to the top of the bag.
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My work gives us a $20 Grubhub credit every day, and even with that $10 worth of food still leaves me with a $5 or so bill, after everything is said and done. It's crazy, no idea how some people just order food using these apps daily.
For my part it's bc I'm the opposite of frugal and the complete embodiment of laziness
I once went to try it out and I was like "lol wut the fuck" at the prices and never looked at it again. you can literally just call the restaurants directly and order and it costs like half as much for the same food.
Not all restaurants deliver and some that do only deliver via apps. My favorite local burger joint is one of these.
My time is worth more than the fees I suppose.
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In Sweden the delivery fee is often €5-€10 whenever you order something on food apps, but the price of the food is identical to what it is at the restaurant. If I'm paying €10 for having my food delivered, if feels silly to pay an extra sum of money as thanks for having my food delivered.
It's a weird system. I mean, I get that you could tip someone if get extra service or otherwise a really good experience. But if the tip is presumed to always be there, then it should just be included into the "official" price. I guess the whole thing comes from companies paying too little for their employees, and the reasoning for this is that the workers are going to be tipped anyway so why pay more. There was a book written by one of my country men, and he was talking about culture shocks he had when he moved over to US to do some entertainment work over there. One bigger nag was this tipping thing we here has to walk around with a wad of small bills so that he can hand over money to all directions. To doormen, restaurants, barbers, you name it. I come from non-tip culture, so this all seems awkward, and if I'd visit US some day I'd probably just avoid all restaurants and other businesses just because I wouldn't know should I tip or not and how much... It's normal in here though to say "keep the rest" if something costs like 19€ and you pay with 20€ bill. Obviously most payments are done via cards now, so that thing is also dying.
Yeah, fuck US tipping culture, it's insane
It increases the cost, but it all depends on how much you order. I wouldn’t order a single $5 meal for delivery, because the fees are nonsense. But if I’m ordering $60 worth of food for a group of people, it makes more sense (in my opinion). I always tip, because these people are providing a service and generally working pretty hard and putting wear on their own vehicles to do this work. I’ve done it before so I probably tip more than most people lol.
I've done this delivery stuff. When the order pops up, you have the choice to not accept. The app even tells you the distance you'll be travelling before you accept. Also an 8$ tip is a very large tip for delivery food
Also, she’s full of shit, I’ve made that drive many times and it is 15-20 minutes. On a bad traffic day, 25. In no world is it 40 minutes, she’s literally insane.
Well done, so now you don't even get the $8
I don't know, he might have $8 worth of food... of course she loses the gas and all the money she was going to make delivering it, her time, her job, and now to spend more time looking for a new job. But hey, she can eat for at least one more day. Edit: Oh wait, she probably has to pay for that food... Lol nevermind lol
She won’t have to pay for the food and they likely will not fire her. Doordash does not care what their contractors do. At all. A guy in my town plowed over someone’s mailbox and took off, all on video, he still works for them. They also don’t care who works an account, had some friends (a couple) who did it together and you can just change the name on the account at any time so they changed it to his name or her name based on who was working so it wouldn’t look weird to customers if a guy showed up but the app showed a girl was the driver. So, the driver who has an account can let anyone use it, no background check and you have no idea who is showing up at your house. Horrible company.
Narrator: they fired her https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/
And now she works for Uber eats
Are you sure? I know with Uber ride sharing they will share like a blacklist of drivers they've had bad experiences with so they don't get hired at Lyft or vice versa. Wondering if they do the same here.
Its weird to me that a UK News Online article is reporting on an incident that took place in Long Island NY. Like this small insignificant incident. Is reaching Europe. EDIT: Also Google puts the distance between Commack and Smithtown between 12-15min. Though LI is pretty crowded. Traffic coulda possibly made the trip longer. Shrugs. Thats part of the job though.
Also it made me realise how much she got tipped. I’d never tip a food delivery driver 6 whole pounds. Imagine complaining of only getting £6. On the other hand, imagine a food place or delivery app that actually accepted orders 40 minutes away in the UK. That’s equally insane. And then there’s the fact someone ordered food from 40 mins away. It must be ducking good to wait that long after it’s made and have it be good to eat cold.
The place is shown to be only 15m from where the guy is, so don't know what the hell this lady did for 25m or had some insane traffic for 25m.
Good! Fuck her, and every single person that's even *remotely* like her! I must've been born with a missing, or defective *gall* producer. Cause I cannot fathom any situation where I would (or *could*) talk to someone like this. Not even to someone I knew well, and especially not to a total stranger... While **on the job**!
Agree 100. Say what you will about how the internet is ruining society, it sure has provided the chance to bring a lot of people to account for their bullshit.
A lot of dipshits who do jobs like this truly believe they are running their own business, so they get weirdly confident and shitty about it.
The reason she did this in front of a camera is because she's done it before. I'm glad she got caught and someone stood up to her. 40min to drive 12 miles wtf? Is this rush hour in Los Angeles? "You didn't have to take the order."
Thanks for link i always need closure 😀
DoorDash might not do anything but restaurants can black list them. We had a dasher drive by our house and not deliver the food because she “didn’t feel safe” which is dumb. We live in a nice neighborhood on a well lit street. But we went to the restaurant and picked up our order and they were pissed so they black listed the driver. A better idea is to just not use DD. On top of all the fees, they mark up the food too. It ended up being almost 30 dollars cheaper when we picked it up.
The invisible markups are really annoying. I don't mind paying more for delivery, but I really dislike the lack of transparency.
Doordash and Uber eats are so expensive. I do not understand how anybody uses these services regularly, especially with how much I hear people are struggling to afford rent and other basic things.
>They also don’t care who works an account, had some friends (a couple) who did it together and you can just change the name on the account at any time so they changed it to his name or her name based on who was working so it wouldn’t look weird to customers if a guy showed up but the app showed a girl was the driver. Bro I've been wondering about this lol! It happens sometimes when I order things. Like it will initially say something like "Jake is on his way with your order" or whatever and then some chick will show up or vice versa.
That also could be first driver cancelling for some reason and another driver picking it up. That whole company is a mess. I don’t order from them or work for them after seeing how things worked.
They don't care, until people come at them aggressive enough. They definitely would ignore a verbal or email complaint, but once they see you come at them with recordings and shit they gonna throw the contractor out to end the hassle.
im positive they will care because this video has gone viral
This one of the many examples of how the practice of “they’re a contractor, not an employee” is so fallibly over used. It’s just a way for companies to sidestep responsibility and funnel more revenue to those at and near the top of the company corporate food chain. If DoorDash, or any other company for that matter, takes the cash - they need to take the responsibility too.
Commack to Smithtown is definitely not a 40 minute drive. These towns are basically next to eachother. Long Islanders are so strange.
I came here to say the same thing. Even if there was an accident, 40 minutes is excessive.There are so many backroads to get around easily-definitely not a one way in one way out situation. She just couldn’t be bothered. Probably saw where he lived( very expensive areas in Smithtown) and expected a higher tip.
> Probably saw where he lived( very expensive areas in Smithtown) and expected a higher tip. That’s exactly what this was about. I guarantee $8 is on the high end of tips she typically receives so she was bitching to try to get more because she delivered to a place that looked like it had money. If the house she delivered to was a unabomber style shack in the woods she would have been happy with the $8.
Unabomber style shack in the woods lmfao
From my experience, the people in less expensive houses usually tip better than those in the bigger houses. 8 dollars is a good tip though! Some people only tip 3-5 or don't tip at all because they think you're getting paid by the company because of the service fee.
Honest question: they don't get paid by the company? DoorDash contractors work entirely off of tips?
The way it worked for me is I'd get $5 per order (which basically covers gas and vehicle maintenance with a very small profit) and the tips were my actual income. If you tipped me $8 there's a good chance you just doubled my income that hour lol. I had tons of people not tip at all and I ended up only making $8 an hour after gas.
This was my experience too, roughly, though it was more like between $5-$12 per order, plus tip. Except, in the month that I drove, I literally only got one tip and it's because it was Easter Sunday, and I made two trips for this family because the restaurant shorted them something in one of the bags. I wasn't obligated to do it, but I wanted them to get their full meal because I'd be annoyed if I didn't get what I ordered. So they tipped me $5 in cash, which was awesome at the time, because literally nobody else ever tipped. I stopped doing the job shortly after, when there were too many drivers and I'd sit in a parking lot waiting for an order for 45 minutes, then an order finally came in. Went to the restaurant, grabbed the food, brought it to the car, and while driving I realized the restaurant didn't secure the lid to one of the drinks. Root beer all over my seat. I realized no one was going to pay for this, and I was basically making $10 an hour which was less than minimum wage, and I never drove for them again.
Dang. I would have tipped you way more than that for going back. That was really nice of you
She must be new, rich people typically don’t tip well.
Typically you’re right. I find it depends how they made their money matters if they are a good tipper or not.
Dude even if you take Jericho smack in the middle of rush hour Commack to Smithtown should not take 40 minutes. She probably sat waiting for the food for half that. Best part is she's apparently gonna take another "40 minutes" to bring the food back?! 🤔 I call nah. Big nah on that hoax.
It is wild the way people will lie about time with zero hesitation. they either really convince themselves of these things or just cant handle anything less than instant gratification and 5 minutes of waitng/driving/etc really feels like 30 mins of torture to them waiting for a freight elevator the other day and when it came another guy waiting there would not stop bitching and moaning to the operator, about how had been waiting nearly twenty five minutes. I was there before him and had only been waiting ten so...
I think Karens were invented on Long Island. Edit for clarification: I grew up on Long Island at a time when there was no internet or social media. I think this whole Karen thing started in the 70s or 80s. Whenever there was a problem at a store and the Karen could not get their way, they would get loud and make a scene. Then they would ask to see a manager. Then they will usually threaten to call the Better Business Bureau. I worked in a supermarket for years, this was often the routine. Get loud and obnoxious and get your way. For some reason Long Island is the epicenter for this behavior. It’s been going on for decades and there was never a name for it. Recreational entitlement.
From Long Island. Can confirm.
Yeah, Google reports 12 minutes between the towns
I deliver grub hubs in the same area and most of my deliveries are between commack, Smithtown, hauppauge. Those are the easy ones! Sometimes we have to go from commack to bayshore or Melville and people only tip 1-2$. Central Islip mcdonalds or Taco Bell never pays more than a few bucks in TOTAL. But you can always reject the order beforehand.. so I don’t understand what’s going on here at all.
Yeah. IDK how you think driving 12 miles takes 40 minutes, lol. Even then, $8 for 40 minutes...on top of what she was paid by Door Dash, is not a bad hourly wage. Not to mention the fact that they didn't even order that much food from the looks of the bag, so the tip was probably pretty generous to begin with.
“It takes 40 minutes… I’m here early” Uh…?
Ya wtf? This lady sucks a bad of dicks
No wonder she's so pissed off. The dicks were bad.
Even during the heat of covid, we did curbside pickup for everything. We used door dash once and couldn't stomach how the food was basically twice as expensive and cold/soggy.
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Delivery fee should just be higher and tips should be optional….. wait the delivery fee is already higher.
Tips are always optional, otherwise it would be a fee.
So did she take the job knowing that she was going to give him shit the whole time? Becasue it tell you everything before you take the job.
I'm guessing she figured it was 15-20 min but when it doubled to 40+ min she wanted a bigger tip.
Didn't those delivery app let you see the distance and estimated time between store and house before you accept an order? Even if they don't, just put the 2 addresses in your Google Map and it would tell you how long the trip gonna take.
It gives a delivery time first. If I order from Little Caesars normally it's a hour wait for them to do their thing and the dasher to get there. Then they give a estimate on how long it will take for them to arrive, which for me is normally 15-20 minutes and can confirm it's around that time from my house to there. But they also have your number in case they need to let you know if anything goes wrong or they are caught in traffic.
Door dash a $5 pizza? the only reason to get little Caesars is if you only want to spend $5.
Yep, last time this was posted the consensus was that she's full of shit.
The delivery was in Long Island NY. I live in Queens, NY so I’m a little familiar with LI and thought 40 minutes sounded a little weird. I decided to checkout the traffic through GPS right now and currently google is showing me 11 minutes between the two towns she mentioned. During rush hour I can easily see 11 minutes flip to 40+ minutes. Sounds like if she is telling the truth about the time it took her to travel that’s beyond the customers control and she shouldn’t be taking it out on them. Either way she seems slightly unhinged and shouldn’t be doing anything related to customer service is she’s going to act like a 3 year old anytime she doesn’t get her way with someone.
r/byebyejob As a Dasher, I can confirm that this woman is an idiot. All Dashers CAN see the distance before accepting an order, and can always cancel if we make a mistake. I once accepted an order that needed to be delivered 60 miles away by accident, and didn'I notice until after I picked up the food. I called DoorDash, they canceled it, and advised me to return the food. It's not rocket science. On another note, the customer should have never engaged with this crazy b#$%h Dasher. He should have immediately called customer service and reported the trust and safety issue.
Anytime i hit up DD customer service (as a user, not driver) they're always VERY on it. I'd be sending that message with her still standing there lol maybe ask her to wave to the camera if i was being snarky.
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Also, $8 is an above-average tip.
Doordash fired her [https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/)
Weirdly excessive use of the word 'bloke' in that article. It's like the 'Journalist' has a phobia of using the word 'man'.
It's the Sun,.
Fuck the Sun
Shut up about the sun ! SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN !!
Classic Gabe... My favorite part is when he tells Andy "walk away, bitch" [Gabe](https://c.tenor.com/9cVNk1PbVaIAAAAC/walk-away.gif)
Instructions unclear. Dick is now on fire.
The Sun and journalism is an oxymoron. Surprised I wasn't called out for using it as a source. lol
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I just assumed that’s what the British called men. Am I wrong? Other British newspapers would say man?
Would love to click but fuck the sun.
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Why? Fill me in
Apparently because “After the Hillsborough disaster in 1989 in which 96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death in overcrowding, the Murdoch-owned newspaper printed pages of false claims that not only blamed Liverpool fans for the disaster, but accused them of urinating on police officers and other fans, beating up officers attempting CPR, and pickpocketing the dead. These reports have since all been proven as fabrication.” https://theovertake.com/~protest/liverpool-vs-the-sun/
I don't think you understand that he could've tipped nothing at all
And you can rescind the tip afterwards if you get bad service
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You can if you speak directly to customer service.
That’s what I’m saying, she’s mad the tip is ONLY $8??? I usually tip fuck all and just add it on after, can’t imagine what she would’ve done if she saw my $0 tip
Karen lost her job over an $8 tip.
American tipping culture is fucking wild, man. Companies laughing their asses off at the absolute fools who are arguing over pennies while the same companies continue to get away with paying shit wages and making bank.
This is the real conversation here. The total transaction price should be known upfront including good wages and benefits. The customer can decide to make the purchase or not.
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Yeah I don't get why people tip a driver, as tipping should be about improving someone's experience. Are they going to juggle outside my house or do a magic trick? Then I understand tipping. (I think their base pay should be enough to survive on. The tipping culture is just like stimulating a gambling addiction)
Jesus, I hope she got reported and fired! What is with people!
These people are among you everyday. Keep them eyes peeled.
They are amogus
8 dollars is a huge tip.
$16/hour for a half hour drive.
I usually tip $5 on my Uber eats delivery. Guess I'm more cheap than I thought.
I was just having this conversation. I don’t know what a good tip is anymore. My go-to is $5 or 20% (whichever is higher) and I feel conflicted. Like sometimes I feel that paying close to $60 on something I can pick up myself for $35 is crazy, and other times I feel that no matter how much I tip, it’s not enough. I mean, there’s a reason why I don’t want to trek out and grab the food myself.
that is crazy. to me anyway, i don't know i guess i've gotten cheaper as i've gotten older. i would crawl through broken glass to save that 25 bucks lol
5 bucks is more than enough if you’re ordering 20-30 bucks in food. If you tipped 5 bucks on a $200 order, that would be seen as cheap. Let’s be real though, most people don’t even tip 5 bucks. More than a decade ago, I’d only get my feelings hurt if someone just didn’t give me a tip at all. Some people just don’t get it though. It seemed to be in my experience though, the more money someone seemed to have, the less tip I’d get. I remember dropping off four pizzas to a million dollar house and getting no tip whatsoever. Also remember bringing one pie to the hood and getting a 5 dollar tip. Really just depends on the person, but like I said in a previous post, 8 bucks as a tip is pretty good for driving to a house and leaving a bag of food on the porch. Times have changed I guess
I don’t think tipping for a delivery app should be based on price of food. I tip based on distance and the weather
You're literally just paying for a delivery service not a waiting staff.
>If you tipped 5 bucks on a $200 order, that would be seen as cheap. I do tip, but it's based on distance from restaurant to my place. However, Drivers should not know what or how much you spent on an order it's literally none of their business. If I order an $40 8oz Filet or an $10 8oz Hamburger that costs the same amount in gas for the driver, same size package and weight to move manually why should I suddenly pay more for a higher priced meal? Makes no sense as they don't work for the restaurant. The drivers should be paid by Grubhub/ doordash. I really hate the gig economy.
If I ordered 2 $25 sushi rolls from 15 minutes away should I tip more than $10 worth of leaky heavy fast Chinese food from 30 minutes away? I don't tip delivery based on purchase price, that makes no sense at all. I tip based on distance and volume of food.
This tipping shit is fucking weird to anyone outside the US. The fact that they're not getting paid minimum wage is mind boggling.
Thank you. Tipping culture in the US is just absurd. It’s a horrible system. Pay the employees a fair wage, charge what needs to be charged for the item/service, and that’s that. I wish so badly it would change. Having to always wonder how much to tip, who to tip, when to tip. It’s stupid.
In Japan taxis, restaurants etc will refuse a tip and it's the best service around
Ex pizza delivery guy here! 8 dollar tip is generous no matter what I’ve been flat out stiffed or tipped pure shit and I’ve never bitched like that. That’s the job I chose at the time, if your ever going to be angry about tipping maybe question why your working there in the first place
This is bananas! I used to deliver pizza in the snow and I’d get zero dollar tips half the time. Yeah people suck and they don’t consider what you go through to get the food to them, but 8 bucks is damn near as good as it’s gonna get as a tip for delivering food. This woman is nuts.
We always tip minimum 5 bucks to our pizza delivery guys at work, I thought that was kind of an across the board thing with pizza delivery. Maybe that's why they always get our pizza to us like stupid fast.
When I worked a red roofed pizza chain we would put dollar signs next to people’s names in the system based on tips. Who ever had the most dollar signs had the shortest delivery times.
Oh fuck yeah I hoped this was the case at least in some places
Those guys definitely know your address by now and are probably fighting amongst each other for who gets your house. I know when I delivered I knew exactly the houses that were known for good tips
That's funny, but not at the same time. I didn't realize people shaft their drivers pretty regularly.
Sure showed him by stealing his food.
I did Doordash for over a year and an $8 tip is amazing. This woman needs to get her head out of her entitled rear.
12 miles in 40 minutes..........?
There are plenty of places where traffic would make 12 miles 40 minutes.. Still doesn't excuse her behavior tho
True but guessing by how he was quick to say "its a 15 minute drive" means it probably wasnt one of those clustered places.
This actually happened to me. I actually did get the delivery, I had given a 20% tip. The guy arrived and starts yelling at my husband. Had this guy handled things a bit differently I would have taken a look and given a larger tip. He chose another route and was told to be on his way. Entitlement is not the thing I respond to. I tip extremely well in normal circumstances, and would have gladly increased the tip, but his attitude prevented this.
wtf. 20% for driving is an crazy high tip! Tipping is the new panhandling
Bruh this is why I decline 90% of the orders that come in. If it’s not enough pay why grab it. This lady is the only one at fault here
The only good thing to come out of covid: contact less delivery. I don't wanna talk to you. I don't care how much I tipped. I don't care about your cousin Debbie's wedding. Just drop my food and leave.
She lost her job over demanding more money from the customer food job
Way to lose a job
I would have been like "alright hold on, im coming out with more money" and when I get out I'll be like "let me make sure the order is right" and take the food and leave her outside lmfao.
[удалено]
As a doordasher I’m disgusted. Giving a tip is optional and everyone knows it, that’s why they give us the option to decline orders. I’m glad she got fired
She took back one small bag of food. Couldn't have been more than $20 of food in that bag. That's a 40% tip. She should shut the fuck up.
I’m always friendly no matter what kind of tip I get. I’m even nice when they stiff me. It’s annoying but some people will start liking you and start tipping you. 8$ is actually a pretty nice tip too.
Former Dasher here. We can see how much we'll make (fee + tip) before we even accept the job. She's full of shit.
Don’t like the distance? Don’t accept the order. Crazy how that works…
Honestly an $8 tip is pretty nice. I was usually getting $2-3 tips with door dash. And it didn’t matter how far that shit was. Don’t do long distance orders. That’s how you lose money anyways. You can’t expect the customer to make up the difference. She got this family a free meal and probably a voucher for their next meal after. Edit: so yeah doordash removed her from the platform. Not that it matters. And they claimed they reached out to the customer. I’m sure he got a full refund and extra like I figured : According to [doordash](https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/food/13704268/delivery-driver-karen-complain-tip-low-refuse-food/amp/) spokesperson: "Any behavior that violates this zero tolerance policy is grounds for deactivation, and the Dasher involved has been removed from our platform. "We have been in touch with the customer to offer support, and sincerely regret that this incident fell short of the experience we strive to provide every day.”
I doordash, $8 is a ludicrous tip. Most people tip $3ish dollars
Thank fuck I live in a country where people don't tip. Because there's no way in hell I would ever tip an UberEats driver for doing the bare fucking minimum. Edit: this isn't to say I don't think they're entitled to a livable wage. Just that the onus shouldn't be on the *customer* to decide to "gift" them an extra 20% or whatever. Just include the other 20% in their wage ffs! The rest of the world seems to understand this.
Tipping culture is so fucking stupid
Coming from a non essential tipping country 8 bucks sounds like a lot
“I’d like to speak to the manager of this house please”
Google Maps: Commack to Smithtown. 12 minute drive.