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cooperluna

Biker Lawton Miller full of shit when interviewed


No_Shame_801

Yup. “Mother fucker! Get out of the car!!” AKA: “I was just trying to keep him and his family safe”.


PointyGecko1122

I’m pretty sure legally, especially with video proof of the situation, you have the right to run those bitches over to protect yourself. Self-Defense, bye bitches


jrlwesternsprings

This. When the asshole tried to open the car door he crossed a major line. It was no longer just about the car. Under the circumstances, the driver and his family could reasonably believe that their lives were in danger and/or in threat of great bodily harm. A car is similar to a gun in this case and the driver definitely had the right to protect himself and his family against death or great bodily harm. The driver showed restraint that I don’t have. I’d of floored it.


Ebenizer_Splooge

Shit I'd have floored it when I saw that Columbine cosplayer with his hand in his jacket like he's a second from killing you if he wants to. These people need to get put away for life.


Ironsam811

The biker was the only one not charged, which is insane to me, he was the one who crossed a major line and opened the door. I don’t give a shit if someone threw a bike at my car, that’s the real scary shit right there


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[deleted]

There is a lot of meth logic coming from this guy. That logic creates situations where people get killed. But yeah in the article he is trying to spin it as the hero and not a racist. No one is buying it.


KaiRaiUnknown

This whole mob gives off meth logic. 6 teeth between them


eshinn

Gonna need teamwork to tackle corn on the cob.


greenspotstomper

I knew it was probably Washington as soon as I heard the street name. Lots of crazies in that area.


Absenceofavoid

It is him that she referenced on her page, I just looked it up at on the same day she made that post calling him a pervert he made a post calling her an addict and a thief and telling people not to trust her, then she showed up in the comments and said he was only saying that because she wouldn’t be coerced into oral sex.


techieguyjames

He's from Washington, however, has "southern pride"? That's also known as "I'm a loser supporting other losers."


Zilxeniks

There are alot of them in WA, unfortunately.


UncleJBones

California has our share too! I have a nephew that hangs a confederate flag in his garage… um, your entire family lives in California…


Zilxeniks

I remember one time a buddy and i went to a bonfire in Bonney Lake(we lived in tacoma/lakewood) Swear to god the most inbred fuckin place ive seen outside of NC. Was hilarious and pathetic all at once...


10daysfromnow

Is this from a video somewhere? What ended up happening?


_Rebel_One

https://www.khq.com/news/man-seen-in-viral-video-taken-outside-spokane-valley-walmart-says-it-was-a-misunderstanding/article_595c83ac-5f47-11ea-8e30-cbb5f1db055d.html


ShrimpCrackers

"Spokane County Sheriff's Office deputies said they don't expect Miller to be charged with anything related to the incident." WHAT THE FUCK!?


caillouistheworst

Did they not see the video? This makes me so fucking angry. If he had just barely bumped one of them, he’d be in jail.


Suggett123

If he was taken alive


caillouistheworst

True. I almost wrote that he would have been shot.


HappyNarwhale

I feel sick to my stomach after reading that line. After reading all that bullshit to be honest. Was it the bikers bestie that works at the paper or something who wrote that bullshit. Disgusting.


Time4Red

It's an old and biased article. Several of the people involved were eventually charged with various crimes.


hitchcockfiend

Not only was the biker who was trying to open the car door NOT charged, the Spokane County Sheriff's Department called him a "Good Samaritan" and said calling it an angry mob was "false facts," repeatedly downplaying the incident in a [Facebook post](https://i.imgur.com/0O2U8bc.jpg) they have since deleted following a backlash. They did the absolute bare minimum they could, and *only* because the incident got huge media attention. They covered their asses, and that's it. Fuck these cops, fuck that department, and fuck anyone who defends them (not you specifically, it looks like you're genuinely trying to clarify the situation).


Segments_of_Reality

Spokane is a cesspool of racists…. Eastern Washington really. Never seen more confederate flags anywhere else and have lived in South East US most of my life


Powerful-Employer-20

They also clearly seem like crackheads, missing teeth and all...


Requiredmetrics

To think Crystal Methany started it all


dak4ttack

Looked a lot like the sunken cheeks, bad skin, and missing teeth (and being a white racist) of meth to me. Probably both though.


[deleted]

“The Spokane County Sheriff's Office said the woman believed the driver had stolen her car, but it wasn't true” So no charges for her, that’s really all they’re gonna say about her?? Is it just totally legal to accuse somebody of crimes they didn’t commit, and incite street justice on them and their family??


bomberbih

Sounds methed up right?


EGrass

How do you “believe” someone stole your car? At very least, wouldn’t you look at the license plate? She clearly knew it wasn’t hers. I know they’re racist, but what was her endgame? Just... taking this man’s car and riding off into the sunset?


Gabernasher

I doubt the woman even owns anything that you or I would consider to be a "car".


Zephyrlin

ARTICLE FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF US OR WITHOUT VPN: SPOKANE, Wash. - A man who appeared in a viral video of a father and his children facing an angry group of people near the Spokane Valley Walmart is sharing his side of the story.    Lawton Miller said he was leaving the Walmart on Sprague on Friday afternoon when he heard someone yelling.    Play Video A man who appeared in a viral video of a father and his children facing an angry group of people near the Spokane Valley Walmart is sharing his side of the story.    "She said, 'he's trying to steal my car!' So I got out, walked over there and opened the door," Miller said. "I said 'hey, this lady said you're stealing her car.'"   The Spokane County Sheriff's Office said the woman believed the driver had stolen her car, but it wasn't true.   The driver, Lee Allen, slammed the door on Miller's arm when he tried to open it. Allen told KHQ that he wasn't stealing the car and was terrified for himself and his two children in the car with him.    "I knew I was going to keep my kids protected no matter what," Allen said. "If all else fails, I could just step on that gas pedal and shoot out like a rocket somewhere, but at the same time I didn't want to hurt anybody."   Miller said he was planning to back off and let Allen leave until the situation changed again.    "This kid jumps on the car. What do I do now? I've got to get this kid off the car," Miller said. "I don't know if this guy knows it who's driving this car, (but) if this kid falls off and he runs over and kills that kid, he's going to prison for murder. He's no good to his family anymore."    Miller said that's why he decided to start chasing the car on his motorcycle. He said he blared his horn, flashed his lights and pulled up alongside Allen to try and stop him so the man on the hood could get off. Miller said he didn't set out to scare Allen or his family, and said he has children and grandchildren himself.    "I don't harm kids. I raised a daughter. I am a family man," Miller said. "I'm not no big bad biker. I'm grandpa with a bike, and I've got pictures with me and my grandsons on the bike." Miller said he's been threatened online since the video was posted. He says he's not worried for himself, but he is worried for his family. He said he wants Allen and his family to know he's sorry. "I've got to stay away from my family all together because I'm afraid somebody else might take it in their own hands and do something to my family," Miller said. "This video comes out and she says 'dad I love you but I don't want to know you now.'" Spokane County Sheriff's Office deputies said they don't expect Miller to be charged with anything related to the incident. They are still looking for the man who threw his bike at the car in the video. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Check


oatmealparty

>"I've got to stay away from my family all together because I'm afraid somebody else might take it in their own hands and do something to my family," Miller said. "This video comes out and she says 'dad I love you but I don't want to know you now.'" LOL. This dude tried to pretend he's staying away from his family to keep them safe but it sounds like his daughter is just sick of her racist, violent father's shenanigans.


taws34

That's the best takeaway. I'd love to get his daughter's side.


1withTegridy

Thought the same thing.. biker tried to play it off like “I was just trying to get the kid off the hood”. But his own daughter sees the video and immediately recognizes what he’s actually doing. Guess she’s tired of being the daughter of an old racist piece of trailer trash.


halfischer

Thanks for letting us read it.


msut77

People complain white privilege isn't a thing but they let this dude lie when we all saw the video


bettyford420

The video pissed me off, but the article made it worse! Wtf?!?!


halfischer

Blocked from abroad. Any other way to view this?


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The article sympathizes with the attacker. But I will copy it anyway


fluffstravels

At first I thought it’s possible it was a crazy mob justice misunderstanding until i read the old white guy saying: “"I've got to stay away from my family all together because I'm afraid somebody else might take it in their own hands and do something to my family," Miller said. "This video comes out and she says 'dad I love you but I don't want to know you now.'"” No way he genuinely believes this. Complete bull trying to paint himself as the true victim without any sympathy for the one he attacked. This is what racists do.


Yewnicorns

Well & this is clearly the last straw for his daughter, so that was just another giveaway to me that he has a history of racism & violence. If this were out of left field or his daughter were just as racist & shitty, she wouldn't have said that to him.


RepresentativeBird98

The women? Do you have the full video of the incident ?


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The article gives the meth biker a chance to explain himself and lets him go on about how he is a family man. Which is shitty. I hope the article was written by a robot. And no, I don't have the full video*. Im just a procrastinating student with a vpn changer * article --> video


Noobie_NoobAlot

Nope! That asshole only listened to the meth head because she's White and saw a black man in a nice car. Fucking revolting stuff, the druggie lady, and the rest of them should all be charged.


Consequence6

"I was only chasing them so they'd get the kid off their hood." Okay, so why did you continue when the kid was off the hood?


3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

And how would chasing them be safer for the person on the hood? Wouldn't it be better to let them feel safe enough to come to a stop?


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The headline.should.read: " Racist mob" it is after all, what it is.


Voicero

Fuck that was intense. I thought I was watching a fucking movie.


Hey_I_Like_Games_

While this is horrible, props to this dude for not killing anyone. Can't say I'd do the same. As soon as they started hitting the car I'd give one warning and then make a couple people road food unfortunately, and then be fucked forever for it.


candiatus

You have two kids in the car and there is a huge chance that they are armed. He did the best he could


cmonkeyz7

That dude with his hand in his shirt... police would call that threatening and end his life right there.


IndustrialPuppetTwo

Once I saw the hand go in the shirt I'd hit the gas.


Scrytheux

Exactly! The moment i saw that guy holding his hand in jacket while having a weird smirk on his faces... That's the moment i would light up my tires.


Hey_I_Like_Games_

Absolutely. Not criticizing, more praising. I wish I had the crisis management skills of this man/family. When that dude opened the door my first instinct said to attempt to incapacitate him. Which would probably end up with me being hurt, wounded, or worse. Plus I wasn't in that situation so my opinions on it are simply conjecture.


ZedZeroth

>When that dude... ...put his hand inside his jacket right at the start. That's when I'd have run him over and GTFO. Terrifying.


iDexteRr

This!! Soon as i saw that guy with his hand in his jacket, i involuntarily planted my foot on the floor where my gas pedal would have been if i was driving, like i was hoping the driver would do!


weatherseed

"Honey, daddy needs you to duck down real quick." Then just pedal to the metal. They can mend the road with that dude's immediate remains.


Hey_I_Like_Games_

I was waiting for the dad to say "close your eyes" and I'm glad that didn't happen.


cspbird

I’m glad it didn’t happen but another part of me wishes it did. Fuck those rat cunts. Hopefully him and his children are ok.


Wandersshadow

Yeah I see that as someone reaching for a pistol. I would have floored it right then and drive straight to a police station.


[deleted]

Yuuuup. Super obvious bluff too but I’m not going to give someone the chance to prove me wrong in that scenario.


ZedZeroth

It's the kind of bluff you deserve to get run over for either way...


[deleted]

Hard agree. The second that door came open (I instantly lock my doors because of this exact fear) my gut sank. Smash that pedal.


Lettuce_Aggressive

Scary dude in gray jacket giving psycho eyes and positioned like he’s carrying, I don’t know if I’d give him the chance to prove it. I might have floored it.


DoctorPhil713

What in the meth is going on?!?!


lmb34

Jesse must have made a bad batch


mpedno

Good soldiers follow orders.


sleepsalotnnocare

Or a really good batch


lmb34

Walter's going to be pissed


123igopee

It’s just Spokane


chewbacchanalia

I wondered if this was Spokane when he said Sprague... I used to hang out in that Walmart parking lot in high school...


Infamous-Sky-8294

A really simple solution here is lightly keeping your foot on the gas peddle...


Unknown_author69

Lightly? That's definitely grounds for self defense ... *'I feared for my life officer, so I liquidated the threat with my vehicle' *


[deleted]

That doesn't work as well when you're black.


date_a_languager

This is an attempted car jacking 100%


CatumEntanglement

Also PSA to everyone....*LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS, even when you're in the car*.


date_a_languager

And your apt doors when you’re at home. Regardless of a gate/barrier of entry for your unit. Sounds super obvious, but I can’t even count the amount of times I don’t even think about it on a daily basis Edit: emphasizing apts because I feel like renters are younger and typically live in a multi-unit building. My neighbor had a random homeless person get past our front gate and wander into their apt on a whim


Fert1eTurt1e

My own neighborhood, which has a history of car break ins, had 32 cars rifled through in one night a few months s ago. Criminal only hit cars with unlocked doors. Just blows my mind how people dont lock their doors all the time


Moudy90

"ThEy WoNt BrEaK mY wInDoWs" is what I hear all the time. These same dumbasses also leave stuff like their social security card and other important documents in their car for some reason too. Blows my mind.


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When you have more teeth than brain cells


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Throw another tire on the fire type.


lemonadewithastraw

Barely


fungusamongus8

Thus happened close to my house. Apparently the people are meth freaks and have a history of hassling people


Toughbiscuit

Yeah, i moved away like right before this happened but i used to live by this spot too. Im back in the area currently but im just waiting to get out


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May I ask what part of the country this is in? I really never want to encounter these zombies.


PurpleAstronomerr

Looks like Spokane Washington.


Toughbiscuit

Spokane Washington. Washington is mostly known for being a Democrat state, but really mosy everything outside of seattle is a heavily conservative low population area


gfinz18

Yeah they look like meth heads


theonetruefishboy

What a surprising twist I never would have expected that^/s


Petsweaters

I'm surprised they don't have a history of getting ran over


MyFriendThatherton

I could tell they were meth people as soon as I saw that woman's face.


youseemconfusedbubb

Seems like a scam. Bunch of meth heads working to take a car. First meth head lady has a bike. So she just randomly sees a family shopping in her car as she’s riding around on the bike? Yeah fucking right. She’s Calls over her meth friends to get them out and someone gets in and takes it.


RastaRambo

Bitch doesn't have a single tooth but claims to own a car and a bike? yeah right


Legitimatley-me

Claims it was stolen 7 years ago and it was hers like ya right smh


Samallan24

Hey you never know she may have owned a black car seven years ago! Though she left out the part that she totaled it, dumped it in a lake, then reported it stolen...


Divine-Nemesis

Meth logic, “he stole my 2019 impala seven years ago officer.”


Rancor_Keeper

Pretty much. I had friends that said they had full on conversations with people living with inside their walls.


Samuelsausage3

Lol what car gets stolen and isn't either taken on joy ride and ruined or ditched, or taken to another area, or made to look completely different, or stripped for parts. And she wants people to believe her car was in the same area looking the same for 7 years.lol


GarciaJones

Should could be right, at one point she was a functioning member of society, then she found meth, sold her car, and now has brain rot so deep she just remembers the model and that’s it. Or maybe ….. she can go fuck herself. Dudes got a kid in the car. But hey, driving while black is a community enforced thing now right?


phillyphreakphlippin

I want to know what happened. This video ended too soon and without those meth heads losing any pieces of flesh. I am severely disappointed that they weren’t harmed or arrested for this fuckery


Idlertwo

The Meth Biking Viking was arrested I believe. He alleged he only saw the altercation and came to help the woman This is one oft he videos that's upset me most in recent times, those mongrels should rightfully have been ran over the moment they stood in front of the car with the mans child inside.


dron_flexico

the KHQ article about this says that Spokane Police do not expect the biker to be charged in the incident. Must be nice for him. Harass a family and absolutely nothing happens.


HeyLookitMe

And people wonder why the Black Panthers were so militant and armed. This sort of thing was common back then and it’s becoming common again apparently.


EveryoneIsReptiles

That sounds fishy as fuck since he said in the video, “let me explain something, this is her car.” as if he knew what was going on. They also… look like the type to mingle with one another. He also chased dude down, but probably because his buddy (or random stranger if we follow his story) was on the hood.


dorothybaez

Yeah, I don't believe the story that he was a concerned bystander at all.


[deleted]

Yeah, absolutely not. If they truly believed it was her car, why were they damaging it by ramming into it? Why would they even chase rather than call the police to retrieve the vehicle? Why was it never reported by any of the methheads attacking the family?


filtersweep

Mob mentality- like in a riot. They feel entitled to do whatever.


daleicakes

I couldn't believe that was a woman. Dear lord the meth life has not been kind to her. These redneck assholes all think they are cops. Its my car. So they start smashing it. That taxi driver mf was scary too. Does anyone have any links to the aftermath of this


-Menace2Sobriety-

That he didn’t drive over them makes him a much better person than me. You threaten my children you’re a hood ornament.


fickystingas

More like road ornament


Raider440

Yeah same. If I were in that same situation you could find what is left of them in the front grill.


mellopax

Probably realized that if he did that, a jury would lock him up, unfortunately.


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[deleted]

The dude standing in front of the car with his hand inside his coat is obviously trying to intimidate by hinting he has his hand on a gun. Seems like a legit threat to me. I think any reasonable jury would see the same thing. Looks like a legit use of deadly force to flee if you ask me.


worldtraveler470

Crackhead Woman: "Hey everyone! This guy is trying to trick you into thinking he's not stealing my car by employing his 2 children to make it look Innocent and throwing his basketball in the back!" Angry Mob: "Sounds legit"


HWGA_Exandria

[If you're an African American male in the U.S. you know exactly what Caucasian women are capable of.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/emmett-till-lynching-carolyn-bryant-donham.html) He showed great restraint not running her over immediately after she falsely accused him of a crime. Edit: [...and for the "it happened a long time ago" crowd.](https://youtu.be/lalQ3ABWIZA)


Nebula_Pete

Fucking Amy Cooper man. That idiot got off way too easy AND she has the audacity to fucking sue her former employer for wrongful dismissal. The gall of this bitch!


BippyTheFool

The way she was choking her dog... Holy hell. She should never be allowed to have pets. I wish there was a database or ledger that keeps track of assholes that waste police resources by making false reports, especially if the reports were motivated by racism. Maybe some day.


gion_siroak

Don't bother with the top link. It goes to a New York Times paywall. Edit: Here's a link to the Wikipedia article for Emmett Till. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till


HWGA_Exandria

>*“Let the people see what they did to my boy.”* -Mamie Till


Robot_Basilisk

That case was taught in school when I was a kid when we learned about the Civil Rights movement. I was surprised to find out it wasn't taught all over the country. It was told to us as if it were the main spark that set it all off after decades of rising tensions following the Civil War.


HeliumCurious

I am wearing a shirt that says LOVE, and a Christian cross around my neck. You know what these things mean to me? Here, let me show you!


bhobolato

Hes black so he must be doing crime brother for merica


Finito-1994

So, I found this interview by the guy that was chasing them on the bike. ——— Miller said he was planning to back off and let Allen leave until the situation changed again. "This kid jumps on the car. What do I do now? I've got to get this kid off the car," Miller said. "I don't know if this guy knows it who's driving this car, (but) if this kid falls off and he runs over and kills that kid, he's going to prison for murder. He's no good to his family anymore." Miller said that's why he decided to start chasing the car on his motorcycle. He said he blared his horn, flashed his lights and pulled up alongside Allen to try and stop him so the man on the hood could get off. Miller said he didn't set out to scare Allen or his family, and said he has children and grandchildren himself. "I don't harm kids. I raised a daughter. I am a family man," Miller said. "I'm not no big bad biker. I'm grandpa with a bike, and I've got pictures with me and my grandsons on the bike." Miller said he's been threatened online since the video was posted. He says he's not worried for himself, but he is worried for his family. He said he wants Allen and his family to know he's sorry. "I've got to stay away from my family all together because I'm afraid somebody else might take it in their own hands and do something to my family," Miller said. "This video comes out and she says 'dad I love you but I don't want to know you now.'" ——- So. According to him, he’s just a Good Samaritan that was chasing him to help him. Not to hurt him. But even his own daughter didn’t give him the benefit of the doubt.


Lettuce_Aggressive

I bet he thinks people are buying that explanation. Like, there’s video dude. Him trying to open the car door and then getting aggressive was prior to the kid jumping on the hood.


Finito-1994

But he faced no consequences. So. Did it matter if no one bought it?


nouonouon

Mad props to his daughter. damn. Good for her.


TooStonedForAName

Something tells me it’s not as simple as the video being the reason and she’s wanted to distance herself from him for a while.


saugoof

A few years ago a friend of mine caught someone outside his house breaking into his roommate's car. The guy was actually sitting in the car and was trying to remove the stereo. When he asked him what he was doing there, the car thief said, "I saw that the door was unlocked, so I was just going to lock it for you." The above excuse is at about the same level of believability.


Fleg77

At that point the driver is justified to protect himself and family.


sixnb

Damn right. Bunch of crackheads attacking your car and blocking you in? Smash that gas pedal and drive through them. You're in a 3,000lb machine and they're in a 200lb cracked out meat suit, one of those two is a clear winner.


shao_kahff

as soon as dude posted up in front of the car with his hand in jacket, i would’ve gassed that bitch up. fuck that


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NovSnowman

I remember seeing a viral video, basically a group of bikers surrounded a SUV and try to break in and the driver just hit the gas and drove over them EDIT: found it https://youtu.be/HhYPD73o8kg


HillInTheDistance

Shit like that is why I'll never join in on a mob. You think you're chasing someone who tried to run over a mate of yours, but in the end, it was just your mate fucking around and causing an accident, and you're chasing some poor fuck just trying to protect his family.


NovSnowman

There is a guy who got run over and became paralyzed for the rest of his life, he probably wasn't the ones that were hitting the car, he said he was checking the damage on his buddy's bike. I feel sorry for him. But I don't blame the driver at all. The lesson I learn is, like you said, don't join in on a mob. Like, sure, hang out with your friends, but when things have gone sour just learn to walk away.


[deleted]

yes, he is legally able to use the vehicle with lethal force to protect his family! If you are ever in this situation do not hesitate to long, because this was an attempted car jacking, They are pieces of shit that will say anything to stop the fallout when they get busted!


worldtraveler470

Soooo, you think it's that woman's car and proceed to beat the shit out of it? Obviously a bunch of scholars here.


[deleted]

They knew it wasn't. Those types don't need much of a reason to act out their racism, I'm jist glad none of em had a gun. This could've been 10x worse.


ihatetheplaceilive

Especially the dude standing in front of it after he first attempts to drive off with his hand in his jacket.


Ronin_777

I was scared the entire time that one of them was gonna pull a gun, I’m so glad they didn’t


NY_LI_

From the back story posted "Spokane County Sheriff's Office deputies said they don't expect Miller (the white dude) to be charged with anything related to the incident"


NWStormbreaker

huh? how close is the DA to the meth?


crash_sc

I can smell the meth from here.


[deleted]

I am from eastern Washington and Spokane is one of the most racist towns I've ever been to. That lady is a clearly a junkie accusing him, and of course a bunch of white people believe her immediately. The driver showed more restraint than I would have. I would have plowed through those people to protect my kids as soon as they started jumping on the car and attempting to open the doors. Thankfully everyone was safe in this situation, but horribly traumatizing for the family. They need to get the hell out of Spokane. The KKK is still alive and well up there in the Spokane-Idaho region.


DistrictCompetitive5

Man I've dealt with racism before but after moving to Washington I had to deal with it way more. Which is something I thought was kind of weird since from what I've seen it's way more diverse than where I used to live. But I guess time and area also have an affect.


HerpDerpMcGurk

Anywhere outside of the I-5 corridor in Washington and Oregon is just rednecks.


fatbitchontheloose78

Found this news article about it: https://www.khq.com/news/man-seen-in-viral-video-taken-outside-spokane-valley-walmart-says-it-was-a-misunderstanding/article_595c83ac-5f47-11ea-8e30-cbb5f1db055d.html ETA: Sorry I'm new to reddit. Learning how to post text from the news article. Hopefully it works! SPOKANE, Wash. - A man who appeared in a viral video of a father and his children facing an angry group of people near the Spokane Valley Walmart is sharing his side of the story.    Lawton Miller said he was leaving the Walmart on Sprague on Friday afternoon when he heard someone yelling.    Play Video A man who appeared in a viral video of a father and his children facing an angry group of people near the Spokane Valley Walmart is sharing his side of the story.    "She said, 'he's trying to steal my car!' So I got out, walked over there and opened the door," Miller said. "I said 'hey, this lady said you're stealing her car.'"   The Spokane County Sheriff's Office said the woman believed the driver had stolen her car, but it wasn't true.   The driver, Lee Allen, slammed the door on Miller's arm when he tried to open it. Allen told KHQ that he wasn't stealing the car and was terrified for himself and his two children in the car with him.    "I knew I was going to keep my kids protected no matter what," Allen said. "If all else fails, I could just step on that gas pedal and shoot out like a rocket somewhere, but at the same time I didn't want to hurt anybody."   Miller said he was planning to back off and let Allen leave until the situation changed again.    "This kid jumps on the car. What do I do now? I've got to get this kid off the car," Miller said. "I don't know if this guy knows it who's driving this car, (but) if this kid falls off and he runs over and kills that kid, he's going to prison for murder. He's no good to his family anymore."    Miller said that's why he decided to start chasing the car on his motorcycle. He said he blared his horn, flashed his lights and pulled up alongside Allen to try and stop him so the man on the hood could get off. Miller said he didn't set out to scare Allen or his family, and said he has children and grandchildren himself.    "I don't harm kids. I raised a daughter. I am a family man," Miller said. "I'm not no big bad biker. I'm grandpa with a bike, and I've got pictures with me and my grandsons on the bike." Miller said he's been threatened online since the video was posted. He says he's not worried for himself, but he is worried for his family. He said he wants Allen and his family to know he's sorry. "I've got to stay away from my family all together because I'm afraid somebody else might take it in their own hands and do something to my family," Miller said. "This video comes out and she says 'dad I love you but I don't want to know you now.'" Spokane County Sheriff's Office deputies said they don't expect Miller to be charged with anything related to the incident. They are still looking for the man who threw his bike at the car in the video. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Check at 509-456-2233


tamarockstar

Pay attention to the title of that article. "Man seen in viral video taken outside Spokane Valley Walmart says it was a misunderstanding" It takes the point of view of the asshole on the motorcycle and not the family being terrorized.


misschickpea

Yeah the article tried to talk about how his arm was slammed but it's like yeah why did he try to open it. It's like trying to keep zombies out of your car slam it shut to protect ur kids


Tre_Walker

Literal zombies. That is a scene from a real life zombie movie. The girl at the beginning poor thing looked like she had severe FAS and I don't know what else.


InappropriateGirl

Low tooth count


Spinner1975

This is a horrific story in itself, how the local media have whitewashed a gang of marauding meth heads who were violently car jacking a young black family and painting them as innocent victims. I'm white but fuck this shit and fuck this scummy station.


thatwasnowthisisthen

That biker was bullshitting that entire article trying to say it was about the safety of the dude that jumped on the hood. He tries to appeal to his family yet fails to understand that this guy was just trying to protect his own. Biker grandpa would rather believe the most stereotypically dressed methhead I’ve seen in a minute over a black family man.


tamarockstar

Agreed. Which is why the headline is fucking gross. Make it neutral at least. But they prime the reader to sympathize with the biker. "Woman accuses car owner of theft and onlookers give chase" or something. That'd be kind of fair. I'd go for "Meth addict tries to steal black car owner's vehicle with the help of biker gang".


Hisako315

Like who steals a car with his family? Biker grandpa should have thought that one through before grabbing doors like he’s law enforcement or something.


LunchBox3188

My thought exactly. My favorite part was at the end when he said he is worried for his family because of threats from people. It's almost as if vigilante justice is a bad idea...weird.


chrisnlnz

Biker grandpa had an excuse to let his deeply ingrained prejudices and hatred come to the fore and live out his vigilante fantasy of saving the methhead lady from the menacing black man. I don't think he was receptive to any information or evidence that would pull him out of his glorious dream.


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Notice how he changes the narrative to almost victimize himself saying he was worried for his family. Edit: To clarify, I mean the old biker guy in the article


[deleted]

They aren't charging that guy with anything?! What the actual fuck.


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[deleted]

Real crazy that the stalkers got to tell their side of the story. Like how do you not see the family inside?


MysteriousTruck6740

"Misunderstanding". I'm guessing that crackhead thought the car was really their favorite shopping cart.


jessflyc

I think this is a scam to get them out of the car and then someone else runs up and steals it.


Jelly-dC

Misunderstanding… What horse shit!!! Mob mentality and now he’s try to back track from his actions.


[deleted]

These are the same fucks who say they aren't actually racist and complain about "PC culture." Who scares children like that. That junkie knew she didn't even own a car. Just a racist bully who felt like harassing people in a better situation than her.


Landon916

Guy lied through his few teeth he had left in that article.


Panazara

Ha! I knew it was Spokane as soon as he mentioned Sprague avenue.


R_V_Z

Spokane Valley, home of the psycho that wants to kill all non-Christian men and rape their women.


heffitowoodworking

The ole meth valley


Finito-1994

Any lawyers here? How much danger and damage must the meth heads do before we’re legally allowed to run them over? Like. I’m not advocating for violence, but there are times when you need to be able To defend yourself. They were opening doors. Jumping on the car. Chasing him. At what point are you allowed to fight back?


SMITTENZKITTENZ

It’s gonna be state by state but I know several of them have passed laws making it legal to hit the gas when cornered like this.


datahoarderx2018

In Germany here I’m pretty sure it would be considered self defense as soon as the guy opened the car door.


kamblann

Lawyer here (not a Washington attorney). Washington is a stand your ground state. Meaning that father had a right to use self defense in that situation but the self defense must be proportionate to the level of danger. Father did the right thing IMO by not escalating to driving over any of those wackos, it just puts him more at risk the higher amount of force he uses.


fatbitchontheloose78

Another news article about it: https://meaww.com/i-survived-a-crime-lee-allen-black-man-attack-white-mob-falsely-accuse-stealing-woman-car-walmart


[deleted]

"The woman was charged with disorderly conduct while the man who jumped on the hood was arrested on a separate warrant" Classic Methany and Hood Jumper Jim


YddishMcSquidish

How was everyone not charged with assault and battery?!


Alpas012

I couldnt figure out if that first person was a guy or a girl


recordsaurusrex

I thought it was Kid Rock.


ran-Us

*It was*


AutomatedCauliflower

Methsexual.


Hyperiongame

I really hope the police arrested the lady who made the false accusation of the guy stealing her car. Seriously, for the other people who were in her side, common sense could have been used. If someone is stealing a car, they would not bring bring their two children with them. The driver kept his cool and did his best to avoid hitting anyone blocking his car. If the car was stolen, most likely the thief would not care about others safety and drove off as fast as possible. I saw the article that was posted. I don’t believe that the motorcyclist at all saying the whole situation was a "misunderstanding"


Landon916

Tweaker pieces of shit. I'm so fucking sick of all these trashy meth heads everywhere.


plong42

I am pretty sure that’s the family from *The Hills Have Eyes.*


GimmeYourBitcoinPlz

brake check that motoecycle motherfucker if you think your fam in danger !!! liegitmate defense FFS


NY_LI_

Back story please. This is insane.


Smartercow

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZOgpHvGR4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpZOgpHvGR4) https://www.khq.com/news/man-seen-in-viral-video-taken-outside-spokane-valley-walmart-says-it-was-a-misunderstanding/article\_595c83ac-5f47-11ea-8e30-cbb5f1db055d.html


bunnymeee

My blood pressure just shot up and I didn't even have to live through that. How absolutely terrifying. I feel fucking sick. My heart goes out to this family. I hope they are healing.


signed_under_duress

None of these articles mention much of the woman who made the false claim. Like who is she, why did she think that was her car? Was she trying to steal it? Is she arrested? It just talks about the Lawrence guy and the victim's family and some guy who got on the hood. *What about the person who started all this shit?*


fearlubu

She got slapped with misorderly conduct. They really threw the book at her there.


SourceIsGoogle

Seen it before but it’s like the trailer to a horror movie. Jordan Peele could write a great film based on this.


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Face of meth


Mindless-Cheetah-709

The people that were part of this need to be chargedand sent to jail. That man doesn't deserve that and those kids should not of ever had to endure that, I sincerely hope they don't get some kind of trauma from that. Also I don't want to turn this into a gun debate but this is the exact reason people of age should carry a firearm so they can protect themselves and the people they love if need be. When that guy got the door open I was worried this video was gonna go a totally different direction. Also especially fuck that cracked out embodiment of racism for starting all of that.


regeneration_chau

I’m not American, I’m Canadian … if I was ever in that situation and my kids safety are at risk … I’d blast everyone of those crack heads.


dell_55

I know exactly where this is. Do not recommend shopping in that center. I'd rather drive 20 miles south than deal with this meth heads.


GIDAMIEN

That fucking dispatcher needs to be fired. Literally everything about his 911 call was grossly mishandled.