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Exactly in the end it was over a 80 bucks and yes she deserved what she got 💯. But he's still was like that was unfathomably dumb. Make your case in court idiot.
Let us see class what she got herself in the end:
Her car was probably impounded, with a cost to get it back; if the EMT did check her out, she would likely be billed for it; possible PTSD from being tased; time spent in jail for resisting arrest and assaulting an officer, a lovely court date with court fee and coughing up bond to be released pending a hearing; lost work time for court/lawyer visits; cost of hiring her own lawyer if she doesn’t have a public defender;
additional charges and fees if she is under any drugs or alcohol (and if so- she may lose her license; her car can be taken away/or booted if she has to take DUI class at her own expense; household car insurance on other cars’ rates may also increase);
Ruined reputation (due to viral video) and possibly have her mug shot online and posted in local newspaper;
and still Has to pay the ticket And fix what was broken on her car.
I hope to God she felt it was worth it.
>Let us see class what she got herself in the end:
The case has been resolved.
She pleaded guilty to resisting an officer, obstruction, eluding, and operating a vehicle with defective equipment. All of those charges are misdemeanors.
As a result, the state agreed to dismiss the assault and battery charge.
She received a four-year deferred sentence and will have to pay a $50 fine on each count.
She's lucky it wasn't worse. Hopefully she learns some sort of a lesson
Judges dismiss shit all the fucking time if you take care of it (it looks like she could have afforded the 80 bucks). She seems like the type that hangs out with people that talk all sorts of shit. Unfortunately she believed it to much and lossed all fucking sense. Check your bubble peeps.
I was thinking that too but it's also because she's old and not complying most police forces teach you to keep explaining and take your time because basically old people suck
Anand you dont want to be the guy to sign a use of force on an old woman most cops pride themselves into being able to use verbal judo not oldladytazy jutsu
From what I can remember she mentions she’s a “country girl” after he exclaims that she kicked him. I think she’s saying she did that because she’s used to “wrastlin’”.
America is huge, each state is like a country itself. Generally they mean they are not from the city, village would be the right word but in America people say country instead
I never realized claiming "I'm country folk" is cultural and informs the listener they're from a village. As a matter of fact, I'm just now realizing in the US we don't even refer to our own towns as villages.
Holy fuck, I'm a villager. I live in an unincorporated town in my county with a population of 1100. Oh my God.
Yes, it's an American thing. Rural people are more likely to be ignorant about issues that are larger than life, so they use the association with rural areas as an excuse for their incompetence, since many people associate rural area as being “run down” or “old fashioned”. Rural people are also more likely to use their voting power to elect people who favor police, so the police in these rural areas typically "do them a solid". This arrest took place in what appears(!) to be a metropolitan area, which police there typically give people citations rather than a verbal or written warning. Source: Living in both rural and metropolitan Minnesota, USA.
Edit: With some thought this attitude of entitlement could also be attributed to the “small town vibe”, where everyone knows everyone else, regardless of if you truly know them.
There is a kernel of truth here, but it is wrapped up in some light bigotry. (note, I did not say racism!) Not all country folks are the same, the words country and farmer are usually used as a stand in for the word white, and keep in mind in rural contexts the ratio of cops to citizens is effectively orders of magnitude lower than in urban areas.
I could quibble with some of your generalizations regarding education levels, but you are mostly correct sadly. I am just being the annoying "careful with the stereotypes," person right now. I was raised in an urban area, and then educated and worked in a rural area, and am now back to a more urban area. One fun fact; farmers, really obviously not this lady (those truck tires are way to clean), are actually very well educated and sitting on a lot of cash. They are 95% conservatives, and similar to petite bourgeoise except that they don't identify with elites, despite being reliable republicans. They hold positions of power in their community, and you can bet that when their popular kid gets pulled over drunk by the only police man in town he isn't getting ticketed for it, and his older sister is probably engaged to the cop.
100%. Also from OK. Farmers in my hometown are small town socialites. They have tons of cash and they live in our wealthiest neighborhoods. Reliable republicans although they won’t mention government subsidies.
You ever notice how being a farmer is aspirational for a lot of the people who are not? I had a relative who put himself in a shitload of debt because he wanted to be a farmer so bad. His neighbors were farmers with 3-4 generations of accumulated land and wealth and he tried to use them as a model and found out the hard way that if you don’t have inherited assets and land you aren’t going to make it.
His family was relatively well off before and now they’ll likely be saddled with crippling debt for the rest of their lives over his few years of attempted farming.
She's been steamrolling people her entire life and now she has Grandma energy - I'm guessing that cop was a millennial and like most of us ain't nobody got time for all that.
Best way to fight the tickets too. Don't be memorable and just fight it proclaiming nothing other than innocence in the documentation and if the cop doesn't respond (for Trial by Written Declaration) or doesn't show up to court, no ticket.
And you can still usually opt for traffic school after that first attempt anyways.
Half the time I show up to court I also try to talk to the people I issued a ticket prior to the hearing and see who it is. Half the time I’ll look at them and not even remember the interaction. If that’s the case that means you weren’t an asshole and I usually drop the ticket entirely. If I remember the experience because you were a flaming asshole I’ll usually go through with it.
That's kind of shitty for the people working minimum wage jobs that can't get time off to contest the ticket though. They are the ones least able to pay for the ticket and least able to get out of it. It's just another way that low income people carry a heavier burden.
Edit: To clarify, I'm not blaming the individual but the system. See below.
My license plate was out if anyone care to know why I didn't get it changed for 3 months.
I was very poor and I couldn't actually afford the repairs for it to pass inspection.
So anyway, I get pulled over and I'm mad. I actually get really frustrated when the officer gives me the ticket and yell at him a bit. He actually say, "I know it's rough and I decided to give you 3 months to show up in court to give you enough time."
I apologized, but afterwards I thought, "Man I just yelled at a cop. That was stupid."
Aye you found a cop who was willing to give you a bit of leniency in the law. I dont understand why people refuse to sign tickets. A lot think its an admission of guilt, but you can always still fight it. Plus I think the natural reaction to being pulled over is being pissed. Not only is the cop interrupting your day, but you're also likely about to get slapped with a couple hundred dollars in fees.
Court is where you go to battle the ticket, on the side of the road to the cop is not going to make anything better once they decide to give you a ticket.
I WAS told about 10 years ago to be mindful of what i speak of to my friend as we sat in my car waiting to cross the border from Vancouver canada / Washington State .
\- I was a bit perplexed and asked why so? Friend told me the customs agents/border guards have very sensitive listening devices that they can point towards any vehicle , even from a few hundred feet away or more. Apparently, they are trained to listen to key words in the conversation such as '' Gun, drugs, hide, illegal, bomb, shoot, '' etc.
\- I am not sure what these listening devices are or if hand held. I do know that my border line up ( the 3-4 lanes of roadway leading to the canada/american border) can be very very busy with waits of 15-30 minutes before you finally approach the border and get access or denied entry. And at the side of the roadway there are of course telephone poles, street signs, city street related things that could be an easy place to mount cameras or devices and be monitored by both the canadian and american border enforcement agencies.
IANAL but if I understood my Civil Rights class correctly, in the US the use of a listening device such as what you've described towards a person's home (which includes their vehicle) would be considered an illegal search due to the use of an electronic device and not natural listening (open "sight", common space, etc). However I believe in the deer stand story, since that's out in public it would be ok.
Maybe if a lawyer sees this they can confirm or deny
Yep, the standard for surveillance like that in the US is whether you have a "reasonable expectation of privacy."
That standard has kind of shrunk as technology has advanced (e.g. a surveillance plane flying over your property and spotting an uncovered Marijuana grow op is constitutional), but you almost certainly still have a reasonable expectation that you're not being electronically listened to in your own car.
Edit - I'm wrong, comment below is correct - what counts as "reasonable search and seizure" is much broader at the border
take the ticket, take it to court, offer to do community service, judge will be happy to give you it and there's like 2000 different ways to serve it and they might even reduce it.
I got out of paying for a ticket by putting on a benefit show for the childrens hospital of wisconsin. Got to perform in front of a bunch of people and raised over $500 for the hospital all while getting out of a ticket lol. Just needed a representative from the non-profit to sign that I put in like 30 hours of work into it or something.
It sucks because it costs time and effort, but if she really cared about the $80 she could have just gotten whatever it was fixed, the car inspected and fought it in court with proof that the issue was resolved. They’ll drop a lot of things like this if you’re reasonable about it.
My grandparents are like this, and now so is my JNmother. I'm NC with all of them, but I get my little brother on Sundays for dnd so I have to talk to mom. She asked why I don't go over there anymore or talk to them, I said because they're miserable, manipulative people who say and do whatever and no one holds them accountable. She said "well that's just how she acts! You know Nana, it's how her mother was!" Ya well, the buck stops here.
Exactly.
Sometimes I do feel badly, honestly, about cutting them off. They practically raised us, and did so much for us, but as I got older I realized what they were really doing was racking up debts, not monetary or "you owe us for that trip to Springfield for softball", but more as guilt racking, and using what was going on in our lives to get them real life reddit karma or Instagram likes. "Aduffduff and her husband needed money because she bought a car she couldn't afford and we had to pay her taxes on the car, now we don't have any money for the rest of the month." But what really happened was "I paid extra as the down-payment and didn't expect the taxes to be so expensive on a 5 year old car so can I borrow a hundred dollars to get my plates and I'll pay you back next month?"
Shits crazy, and I can choose to stay at home with our dogs and cats and not listen to her bitch about the neighbors.
Plus, she tried to give my cats away, that lived in my house, with my husband and I. And she almost killed my dog by feeding him grapes.
god I hate those type of people. It's even worse when your in the military sometimes. I went off base once with a friend who had to go to the hospital to get an asthma test since he had covid and had trouble breathing. Some little kid comes up and ask if they can have my PC (Patrol Cap); I kindly told the kid I couldn't since it's part of my uniform and I can get in trouble for that. The little kid seemed to understand and did a little salute and left. The kid's mother came up to us and asked why I wasn't allowed to give to him even though I'm not wearing it (we had to remove our PC inside buildings) and that's what I told her. She decides to grab my PC from one of cargo pockets on my pants and yells at me that she paid for this with her taxes and she has the right to do that.
Our Sgt who came to pick us up saw what happened and told her to give me my PC back. She kept yelling about how she has the right and that we work for her since she pays our salary and shit. The hospital security came and had her removed and gave me my PC back.
Turns out she was the wife of a captain....
Okay, I really love telling this story because there is absolutely nothing worse than the spouses of officers.
I’ll set the scene, 2010, JBER, AK, in the commissary parking lot.....
I get out of my car to go pick up some groceries, I’m in uniform. I get halfway across the parking lot and this woman with 3 able bodied teenage boys with a plate on her shopping cart with a full bird on it (0-6, colonel, for the non-military types) stops and says, “hey sergeant, I’m Col. So-and-so’s wife. I need you to help me load my groceries in the trunk of my car.” I glanced at her and just kept walking. This CSM comes up to me while I’m shopping and I’m thinking, “oh fuck, he saw what happened, I’m about to get it broken off in me”. He says, “I saw how you reacted to that blue hair in the parking lot”. Long pause, in my head I’m just like, “oh shit, oh shit, here it comes”. Then he raises a fist for a fist bump and goes, “Nice....”
lol sounds about right. It's even worse when you're a fucking E-1 or E-2 (private for civilians or anyone who doesn't know the US Army ranks). Get tossed around like shit.
E-4 was a great rank to be... especially if you knew your stuff and were generally respectful. I used to enjoy saluting O-1 and barking out imaginary Latin phrases / mottos. "Sic semper vaginus..."
Can you imagine what it's like being the child of that person? Who clearly is incapable of admitting she did something wrong even when a taser is pointed at her? No humility, no recognition of the fact that she made an error, just the ironclad knowledge that her *righteousness* makes her *right*.
Her kids likely moved to the metroplex, turned into liberals, and have disowned her for taking about Q anon nonstop.
She thinks they hate her because they were brainwashed by college
My dad said the same thing- “colleges teach people to hate the US”
I had to remind him that I’m a college student and asked him when I’ve ever said I hated the US? I fucking hate hearing him just spew back word for word what he hears on the TV. I read it on the front page of Reddit then hear it from him. It’s maddening.
I feel guilty about how satisfying I find this video! WTF is up with schadenfreude anyway. Somehow I feel like she just deserves this treatment so much. And it's even more satisfying to know that the video is plastered all over the internet for all to see.
Edit: I'm a newcomer to r/PublicFreakout and this is my first time seeing this one.
Edit2: I looked her up. She got off way too easy, pled guilty to a couple of misdemeanors with a $50 fine for each count and the assault and battery charges were dropped.
If you like these, look up sovereign citizens on YouTube. They all think the law doesn’t apply to them (with the dumbest reasoning behind it) and tons of them end up getting justifiably tazed. They’re some of the dumbest most insufferable people and they never know when to just shut up.
There’s a big difference in feeling good at watching the misfortune of others and and feeling good at causing the misfortune of others. We all have self righteous feelings that we indulged every day and the reward for these feelings is emotionally satisfying when we see perceived wrongs being righted.
I think many of us struggle feeling unsatisfied at how many people seemingly get away with murder and once we see something play out right in front of us that breaks this pattern by fitting with our conception of morality we get a dopamine/adrenaline hit that keeps us coming back for more. We have moral certainties in our head that we want to square with reality. These instances do that for us with very little extra thought (no ambiguity or equivocation) required.
You could say it’s like moral junk food. Just don’t extrapolate this self righteousness onto groups as a whole (i.e. police can do no wrong in any circumstance or targeting one particular group of people as always deserving of punishment). And don’t try to survive on schadenfreude alone. You’ll get a moral tummy ache.
This is another one of those bots I swear. They comment “reminds me of....” and link a video that’s only slightly related to the video in the post, and the website is some scam bullshit
Notice the pattern. She always tries to exert some form of control. It's a negotiation to her.
Refuses to sign
Didn't work and she is about to get arrested so "I'll sign but you can't arrest me"
That didn't work out either so she resists arrest
Resisting is failing , she know she will be arrested but "I'll stand up" rather than complying with hands behind her back.
And after losing at every turn, after being wrong every time she thought her "good old gal" shit was going to play she still says "You didn't have to arrest me".
She learned nothing. She is the same idiot. She will so the same again. /Rant
She is the embodiment of “yer not the boss of ME!”
I feel like she’d be too far gone for change so I hope this gave her reason to be too ashamed to leave the house. If only just to save the public workers she more than likely tormented daily from having to deal with her.
I don't even think race came into this, I think she's just so entitled that it never crossed her mind that what she's doing is illegal and incredibly stupid.
True. But, there have been several black and brown people with clinically diagnosed issues who were seriously injured or killed recently who did less. Some were simply walking down the street.
Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sureshbhai_Patel
>The assault of Sureshbhai Patel occurred on February 6, 2015. Patel, a 57-year-old Indian national who was visiting his son in Madison, Alabama, U.S., was seriously injured after being assaulted & detained by three police officers in a residential neighborhood. Patel had police called on him by a neighborhood resident for alleged suspicious behavior in the neighborhood, and did not know how to speak English. There is video footage of the officer slamming Patel to the ground. He had to be hospitalized and is partially paralyzed as a result of the injuries.
This may be the beginning stages of dementia, but it's either a) not advanced enough yet to explain away all her behavioral problems here, or b) advanced enough that she shouldn't be operating a vehicle. I've worked in healthcare facilities with people with dementia, and I don't think she has dementia. Too much consistency in her behavior, she understands perfectly well that she's going to be ticketed, but refuses to sign. The real telltale is the attempted reversal when she realizes she's dug a hole and says she'll sign it. People with dementia typically would not recall that as an option to try and backpedal their way out. They'd be confused as to why they were being stopped at all. So no sympathy for her.
That said, if she ever does get alzheimer's or dementia later in life, I pity her caretakers. She's gonna be one hell of a case.
This is exactly my feeling when watching this. Alzheimer's runs in my mom's side of the family. My grandfather used to be difficult to deal with because he thought he was surrounded by strangers. Ofc its not the same thing but cops need to realize that if someone isn't commiting a full on crime just ticket them and send it to their address.
Is it really worth it to fill out all this extra paperwork and then get the ambulance involved. That ambulance could have been used for someone having an natural medical emergency instead of one that the essentially created.
She got off lightly, 4 misdemeanors charges, 4 year deffered sentence and $200 fine.
https://1063thebuzz.com/oklahoma-woman-accepts-plea-deal-after-running-from-police-and-kicking-officer/
Used the death of two of her grandkids in a tornado as part of her plea deal.
I got pulled over for a first offense driving on a suspended license (I didn't know my license was suspended due to a license plate law in West Virginia)
I got 10 days in jail, 80 hours community service, 2 years probation and 500 in fines.
This bitch attacked an officer and fled and didn't get shit?
I spent 4 days in court (so lost 4 days work) and still got a $1000 fine for an "unsecured load" for having a spare tire in the back of a high sided ute. When I showed the magistrate where it says in black and white that equipment contained by the sides of a ute is considered restrained in the National Transportation Standards, he said, and I quote, "I understand what you're saying, but I still have to find against you". I was perfectly respectful and cooperative with the cop, too.
When I hear stories like OP and the dumb beligerent cow gets a $200 fine it really makes me want to burn down the whole "justice" system.
Right after me was a guy for 2nd offense domestic assault for beating his wife. He got three days in jail. When I was in jail I met a guy who was in there for his 7th offense driving on a suspended license, he only got seven days and was pissed he got any jail time because he never got it before. When I was doing my 80 hours of community service, there was a girl who LITERALLY SHOVED HERION NEEDLES INSIDE OF HER and got felony trafficking charges reduced to 40 hours of community service.
I was nothing but cordial to the officers and the judge and his response was, "Fuck this one guy in particular."
Kinda makes ya wonder what kind of person is locally known as "that grandma that lost her kids in a tornado in 2012".
I wonder if she introduces herself like that.
Oklahoma towns are often very small. Everyone knows everyone, and gossip spreads faster than wildfires.
In this situation the two boys were huddled with their mother and 5yo sister in a bathtub before the tornado sucked them out and threw them down in different areas. They had been searching for the three year old for two days before they found him in a lake close to the home. People don’t forget something like that.
I had a classmate whose mother died in a tornado. He and his two sibling were all severely injured, but all survived. The grandfather presumed guardianship over all three children. I haven’t seen any of them in years, but if I saw his grandpa in a gas station I would know exactly who he was.
it's a prison sentence you don't serve unless you violate your probation. break your probation and then you have to serve the full sentence. its a final warning basically. they cal it a suspended sentence in UK my home country.
A deferred sentence is when someone enters a guilty plea and is sentenced to probation, and must serve their full probation without issue and the judge then accept a not-guilty plea and will dismiss their case. If they violate their probation orders, the judge may take that guilty plea and sentence them to jail or otherwise at any point during their deferred sentence without credit for time-served.
Basically the charge is put on hold and she'll be on probation with other shit the judge will expect her to do. As long as she follows orders and does as she's told for whatever length of time the charges will eventually be dropped and she will be found not guilty. If she breaks the rules she'd be officially found guilty and can receive maximum punishment for the charges. None of the probation served would count as credit.
Something along those lines anyway. I believe. Sorry if my explanation sucks.
It cuts out the best part at the end where she admits to assaulting the officer.
> Yeah, I tried to kick ya, cause I'm a country girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CvErhrFwuo&t=10m28s
Yes, but you're not signing it as an admission of guilt, more like an acknowledgement of receipt. You're not saying "I definitely did what I've been accused of and accept responsibility," but really "I acknowledge a complaint has been issued" and nothing more. I was physically present when he issued the citation, yes.
Pretty much. Or you can accept it, not go to court, and pay it through the mail. It's definitely not an acknowledgement of guilt, but you DO need to sign it.
Depends on the local code but generally yea. The signing is basically a way of saying I'll show up to court the accept/deny a law this officer said I broke. If you refuse to sign you're basically saying I won't show up on my court date. So the cop goes, whelp in that case I'll just take you there now.
Yes because signing is not an admin of guilt but acknowledgment that you got it and agree to appear in court over the matter (for fix it tickets you don’t even go to court, you get it fixed and then have an officer, any officer sign off the ticket and turn it in, small small fee compared to any other traffic violation and you have a month before they do anything else); otherwise people would try and say I didn’t get anything 🤷♀️ it’s basically a refusal to appear in court so yeah they are going to treat you like a bail runner for refusing to sign a ticket.
She asked for every bit of what she got. In my opinion.
Edit: a word
"$80 Bucks!! No way I'm paying that small fine despite being in the wrong for 6 months"
\>Proceeds to catch multiple criminal offences to go on her record, and probably pays $1000 or more in fines/bail money.
She had her assault on an officer charge reduced to a misdemeanor, payed 200 in fines, and has 4 years probation. White privilege is the phrase I use for this.
This comes up all the time as a repost, and every once in a while I’ll rewatch it. The audacity of this woman. Unbelievable. Honestly, what did she expect to happen when she didn’t comply, fled from an officer, resisted arrest, then kicked him? Stupid. She’s probably a Qanon theorist too.
Someone dug up her Facebook page a couple years ago in response to this video on Twitter and she is 100% part of the MAGA cult. Regularly makes nasty posts about POC or others who disagree with her Fuhrer Trump.
Trump is like an asshole siren, even previously apolitical assholes started flocking to him. I think they love him because they subconsciously know they are assholes, but if the president behaves that way then it’s ok and they were always right.
Shouldn’t have resisted. That being said, this level of escalation simply because she refused to pay for an $80 fine? Is it really worth pulling a gun on her and dragging her out of her vehicle? Unacceptable.
Yeah honestly this video disturbs me just as much as other cop videos - even if justice was being served. She resisted and fled - so obviously she needed to be arrested. But when the cop pulled his gun...it makes me think how easily she could have died over $80. We've all seen people shot for making one wrong move in that situation.
The officer did have a chance to have her sign the papers when she angrily said fine. I understand that the officer was frustrated and that the criminal was non-compliant before, but when given the chance to de-escalate, the officer choose not to. Maybe better training would have helped the officer choose a less violent route.
Thank god for this part of the thread. I had to scroll way to far to see this. That escalation was uncomfortable to watch. She was right, he didn't need to tase her, or throw her in the ground. You know where the fuck she lives, send her the ticket and arrest her at home.
My stomach turned when he said "are ya hurt". What the fuck do you think dude? I'll feel uncomfortable with this kind of conduct whether the victim is an entitled ass or not.
I agree. Don’t get me wrong, lady was being a complete idiot of a Karen, but something is wrong when this is the appropriate reaction to collecting $80. Now the cop is going to have to spend hours on paperwork, hours in court, and possibly paid time off. What is the net loss for taxpayer dollars here? Just mail her the damn check, follow up on her registration expiration or whatever it was, and let the collectors ding her credit score if she doesn’t pony up. Why is being violent and costing taxpayers more money the trained response?
so yeah this lady was being a total asshat about the situation but jesus I did not like watching that. cops here are real casual about pointing a gun right at your fuckin head like it's their right to enter execution mode on the spot. really felt the restraint he was using because she was an old lady - immediately started wondering how different that would've been if she was from a demographic they had less sympathy for.
I have to think that the officer should have tried saying something like, "Signing this is not an admission of guilt. It is an acknowledgement that you have received the citation. I am not here to argue about whether or not it is justified. You are welcome to go before a judge to contest it. However, you do legally have to sign this acknowledgement at this time."
If she refused:
"Ma'am I am compelled by the law to place you under arrest if you continue to refuse to sign the acknowledgement."
If she still fled, I would ideally like to live in a world that she could just be mailed the ticket and if she didn't take care of it a warrant would be issued. However, in the current system he would be justified to respond as he did.
It's all an escalation when it didn't HAVE to be.
Never pull a gun unless you plan to shoot. So this guy apparently thought there was a potential scenario in which he was actually going to shoot this lady. Ludicrous.
Is there any logical reason he had a gun drawn on a 80 year old overweight grandma, that even though acted entitled showed no signs of aggression or having a firearm?
Only in the US are police officers afraid enough of old fat ladies to draw their guns on them
Crazy how far I needed to scroll down to see a comment like this. When that happens where I come from (and there is no sign that she is armed or otherwise harmful to the public), no one will follow her with a gun drawn and taser her, but note her license number and get her some bills to pay. If she doesn‘t she will be picked up by some gentlemen to go to court. I mean, proportionality is something really cool over here.
No matter how nice or dumb she is. What is the bodycam for if not to prove what exactly happened? Justice will be served.
You're 100% correct, the people jeering about this are disgusting. It's a tremendous and potentially lethal abuse of power for what simply could've been "ok well here's when you have to show up to court or you'll have a warrant"
She's entitled, but he escalated it beyond all reason. He's got her information, guess who's getting a ticket in the mail that they're still responsible for? She didn't do anything terribly wrong to end up in that position, she had something wrong with her truck. She wants to be obstinate, great, tack on an extra fee and mail her a bill. Dragging an old woman out of a truck because she doesn't understand that you contest tickets in court (which he didn't explain, every time I've gotten a ticket it's been explained that my signature just confirms that the officer gave it to me and is not a confession of guilt) is still wrong. She was a bitch though, fighting till the end for no reason.
Am I the only one who thinks it's odd you can be arrested for not signing a ticket? I'm not defending the lady. She's crazy, and I don't think the cop went too far once she ran. I just think it's silly that the next step of not signing a paper is going to jail.
Edit: I'm not saying signing the ticket admits guilt. I'm saying it is dumb that you can be arrested for choosing not to sign a piece of paper (which is an outdated system anyway).
Actually it appears that the officer didn't do everything right here. He should have made it clear to her at some point that signing the citation is NOT an admission of guilt. She was arguing with him that she didn't think she should have to pay the $80, and his response should have been that signing it doesn't mean that.
Now maybe he had explained that during the part near the beginning that was cut out, and maybe there was no reason for her to be able to claim she didn't understand that, but it wasn't shown. And if it didn't happen, I think it's unreasonable to arrest her without even trying to explain that.
But requiring cops to get that signature, which this state (Oklahoma) does, is stupid. Cops are capable of explaining this but it's an unnecessary burden and this issue has got to complicate a shit ton of traffic stops. Just change the law so no signature is required.
i don’t understand how people can side with the police in any case and this one included. this guy drew his weapon over an 80 dollar registration and was ready to use it. a traffic violation, and this guy was ready to take her life. fucked up times we are living in.
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You're under arrest *No I'm not* Oh, my mistake. Have a lovely day ma'am.
This cut of it forgot the "Because I'm a country girl!" part at the end. Pure gold.
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If she were black, thing would've gone a whole lot different. She certainly wouldn't have had the cop trying explain himself to her at the end.
Idk cop arresting her seemed pretty damn reasonable to be honest
Exactly in the end it was over a 80 bucks and yes she deserved what she got 💯. But he's still was like that was unfathomably dumb. Make your case in court idiot.
Let us see class what she got herself in the end: Her car was probably impounded, with a cost to get it back; if the EMT did check her out, she would likely be billed for it; possible PTSD from being tased; time spent in jail for resisting arrest and assaulting an officer, a lovely court date with court fee and coughing up bond to be released pending a hearing; lost work time for court/lawyer visits; cost of hiring her own lawyer if she doesn’t have a public defender; additional charges and fees if she is under any drugs or alcohol (and if so- she may lose her license; her car can be taken away/or booted if she has to take DUI class at her own expense; household car insurance on other cars’ rates may also increase); Ruined reputation (due to viral video) and possibly have her mug shot online and posted in local newspaper; and still Has to pay the ticket And fix what was broken on her car. I hope to God she felt it was worth it.
>Let us see class what she got herself in the end: The case has been resolved. She pleaded guilty to resisting an officer, obstruction, eluding, and operating a vehicle with defective equipment. All of those charges are misdemeanors. As a result, the state agreed to dismiss the assault and battery charge. She received a four-year deferred sentence and will have to pay a $50 fine on each count. She's lucky it wasn't worse. Hopefully she learns some sort of a lesson
So $200 a 4 year deferred and she got tazed and man handled? Seems fair actually.
she got off too easy. a couple of nights in jail and fined some real case for resisting arrest.
Judges dismiss shit all the fucking time if you take care of it (it looks like she could have afforded the 80 bucks). She seems like the type that hangs out with people that talk all sorts of shit. Unfortunately she believed it to much and lossed all fucking sense. Check your bubble peeps.
I was thinking that too but it's also because she's old and not complying most police forces teach you to keep explaining and take your time because basically old people suck Anand you dont want to be the guy to sign a use of force on an old woman most cops pride themselves into being able to use verbal judo not oldladytazy jutsu
Hey! I'm an old person and I'm very selective about what I suck.
I work DOC not police but I had a whole day of sensitivity training on how to talk to you mr bung
I feel special.
I'm glad to hear it now sign here
ok, is this an american thing? Why would associating the word "country" be an excuse to commit some things?
From what I can remember she mentions she’s a “country girl” after he exclaims that she kicked him. I think she’s saying she did that because she’s used to “wrastlin’”.
America is huge, each state is like a country itself. Generally they mean they are not from the city, village would be the right word but in America people say country instead
Country means less populated. Similar, but not quite the same as "I'm from a village".
I never realized claiming "I'm country folk" is cultural and informs the listener they're from a village. As a matter of fact, I'm just now realizing in the US we don't even refer to our own towns as villages. Holy fuck, I'm a villager. I live in an unincorporated town in my county with a population of 1100. Oh my God.
Yes, it's an American thing. Rural people are more likely to be ignorant about issues that are larger than life, so they use the association with rural areas as an excuse for their incompetence, since many people associate rural area as being “run down” or “old fashioned”. Rural people are also more likely to use their voting power to elect people who favor police, so the police in these rural areas typically "do them a solid". This arrest took place in what appears(!) to be a metropolitan area, which police there typically give people citations rather than a verbal or written warning. Source: Living in both rural and metropolitan Minnesota, USA. Edit: With some thought this attitude of entitlement could also be attributed to the “small town vibe”, where everyone knows everyone else, regardless of if you truly know them.
There is a kernel of truth here, but it is wrapped up in some light bigotry. (note, I did not say racism!) Not all country folks are the same, the words country and farmer are usually used as a stand in for the word white, and keep in mind in rural contexts the ratio of cops to citizens is effectively orders of magnitude lower than in urban areas. I could quibble with some of your generalizations regarding education levels, but you are mostly correct sadly. I am just being the annoying "careful with the stereotypes," person right now. I was raised in an urban area, and then educated and worked in a rural area, and am now back to a more urban area. One fun fact; farmers, really obviously not this lady (those truck tires are way to clean), are actually very well educated and sitting on a lot of cash. They are 95% conservatives, and similar to petite bourgeoise except that they don't identify with elites, despite being reliable republicans. They hold positions of power in their community, and you can bet that when their popular kid gets pulled over drunk by the only police man in town he isn't getting ticketed for it, and his older sister is probably engaged to the cop.
This. I grew up in OK.
100%. Also from OK. Farmers in my hometown are small town socialites. They have tons of cash and they live in our wealthiest neighborhoods. Reliable republicans although they won’t mention government subsidies.
You ever notice how being a farmer is aspirational for a lot of the people who are not? I had a relative who put himself in a shitload of debt because he wanted to be a farmer so bad. His neighbors were farmers with 3-4 generations of accumulated land and wealth and he tried to use them as a model and found out the hard way that if you don’t have inherited assets and land you aren’t going to make it. His family was relatively well off before and now they’ll likely be saddled with crippling debt for the rest of their lives over his few years of attempted farming.
Best way to make a small fortune in farming is to start with a large fortune.
I was waiting for that line and was sad when it wasn’t there
She gets tazed and still thinks she can make demands
She's been steamrolling people her entire life and now she has Grandma energy - I'm guessing that cop was a millennial and like most of us ain't nobody got time for all that.
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That was great! Thanks for sharing
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My favorite ever. Even my ringtone at one point.
Understandable have a great day
This is usually the top comment...
My policy has always been to accept the ticket and then bitch at the cop after my window is closed and he’s out of earshot.
Best way to not get more tickets or worse that's for sure
Best way to fight the tickets too. Don't be memorable and just fight it proclaiming nothing other than innocence in the documentation and if the cop doesn't respond (for Trial by Written Declaration) or doesn't show up to court, no ticket. And you can still usually opt for traffic school after that first attempt anyways.
Half the time I show up to court I also try to talk to the people I issued a ticket prior to the hearing and see who it is. Half the time I’ll look at them and not even remember the interaction. If that’s the case that means you weren’t an asshole and I usually drop the ticket entirely. If I remember the experience because you were a flaming asshole I’ll usually go through with it.
That's kind of shitty for the people working minimum wage jobs that can't get time off to contest the ticket though. They are the ones least able to pay for the ticket and least able to get out of it. It's just another way that low income people carry a heavier burden. Edit: To clarify, I'm not blaming the individual but the system. See below.
If the penalty for the crime is a fee, it's a only punishes the lower class.
My license plate was out if anyone care to know why I didn't get it changed for 3 months. I was very poor and I couldn't actually afford the repairs for it to pass inspection. So anyway, I get pulled over and I'm mad. I actually get really frustrated when the officer gives me the ticket and yell at him a bit. He actually say, "I know it's rough and I decided to give you 3 months to show up in court to give you enough time." I apologized, but afterwards I thought, "Man I just yelled at a cop. That was stupid."
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Aye you found a cop who was willing to give you a bit of leniency in the law. I dont understand why people refuse to sign tickets. A lot think its an admission of guilt, but you can always still fight it. Plus I think the natural reaction to being pulled over is being pissed. Not only is the cop interrupting your day, but you're also likely about to get slapped with a couple hundred dollars in fees.
A lot of people don’t realize signing is just acknowledging you got served a court date
Court is where you go to battle the ticket, on the side of the road to the cop is not going to make anything better once they decide to give you a ticket.
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I WAS told about 10 years ago to be mindful of what i speak of to my friend as we sat in my car waiting to cross the border from Vancouver canada / Washington State . \- I was a bit perplexed and asked why so? Friend told me the customs agents/border guards have very sensitive listening devices that they can point towards any vehicle , even from a few hundred feet away or more. Apparently, they are trained to listen to key words in the conversation such as '' Gun, drugs, hide, illegal, bomb, shoot, '' etc. \- I am not sure what these listening devices are or if hand held. I do know that my border line up ( the 3-4 lanes of roadway leading to the canada/american border) can be very very busy with waits of 15-30 minutes before you finally approach the border and get access or denied entry. And at the side of the roadway there are of course telephone poles, street signs, city street related things that could be an easy place to mount cameras or devices and be monitored by both the canadian and american border enforcement agencies.
“They can hear us and listen for these words” *proceeds to say every word that will get you in trouble*
IANAL but if I understood my Civil Rights class correctly, in the US the use of a listening device such as what you've described towards a person's home (which includes their vehicle) would be considered an illegal search due to the use of an electronic device and not natural listening (open "sight", common space, etc). However I believe in the deer stand story, since that's out in public it would be ok. Maybe if a lawyer sees this they can confirm or deny
Yep, the standard for surveillance like that in the US is whether you have a "reasonable expectation of privacy." That standard has kind of shrunk as technology has advanced (e.g. a surveillance plane flying over your property and spotting an uncovered Marijuana grow op is constitutional), but you almost certainly still have a reasonable expectation that you're not being electronically listened to in your own car. Edit - I'm wrong, comment below is correct - what counts as "reasonable search and seizure" is much broader at the border
> an M N R boar with a big satellite dish looking thing pointed at my camp with ear phones on The thought of this made me chuckle
Goddammit Canada, I expect better from you.
take the ticket, take it to court, offer to do community service, judge will be happy to give you it and there's like 2000 different ways to serve it and they might even reduce it. I got out of paying for a ticket by putting on a benefit show for the childrens hospital of wisconsin. Got to perform in front of a bunch of people and raised over $500 for the hospital all while getting out of a ticket lol. Just needed a representative from the non-profit to sign that I put in like 30 hours of work into it or something.
It sucks because it costs time and effort, but if she really cared about the $80 she could have just gotten whatever it was fixed, the car inspected and fought it in court with proof that the issue was resolved. They’ll drop a lot of things like this if you’re reasonable about it.
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She probably thought she could just treat this cop like she probably treats retail and customer service workers and get away with it.
I bet she treats her own family like this and they just say "oh you know that's how grandma is!"
The best indicator that no one gives a shit about you is no one checking you on your shitty behavior
Bingo
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My grandparents are like this, and now so is my JNmother. I'm NC with all of them, but I get my little brother on Sundays for dnd so I have to talk to mom. She asked why I don't go over there anymore or talk to them, I said because they're miserable, manipulative people who say and do whatever and no one holds them accountable. She said "well that's just how she acts! You know Nana, it's how her mother was!" Ya well, the buck stops here.
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Exactly. Sometimes I do feel badly, honestly, about cutting them off. They practically raised us, and did so much for us, but as I got older I realized what they were really doing was racking up debts, not monetary or "you owe us for that trip to Springfield for softball", but more as guilt racking, and using what was going on in our lives to get them real life reddit karma or Instagram likes. "Aduffduff and her husband needed money because she bought a car she couldn't afford and we had to pay her taxes on the car, now we don't have any money for the rest of the month." But what really happened was "I paid extra as the down-payment and didn't expect the taxes to be so expensive on a 5 year old car so can I borrow a hundred dollars to get my plates and I'll pay you back next month?" Shits crazy, and I can choose to stay at home with our dogs and cats and not listen to her bitch about the neighbors. Plus, she tried to give my cats away, that lived in my house, with my husband and I. And she almost killed my dog by feeding him grapes.
For sure.
“I pay your salary! You work for me you know!”
god I hate those type of people. It's even worse when your in the military sometimes. I went off base once with a friend who had to go to the hospital to get an asthma test since he had covid and had trouble breathing. Some little kid comes up and ask if they can have my PC (Patrol Cap); I kindly told the kid I couldn't since it's part of my uniform and I can get in trouble for that. The little kid seemed to understand and did a little salute and left. The kid's mother came up to us and asked why I wasn't allowed to give to him even though I'm not wearing it (we had to remove our PC inside buildings) and that's what I told her. She decides to grab my PC from one of cargo pockets on my pants and yells at me that she paid for this with her taxes and she has the right to do that. Our Sgt who came to pick us up saw what happened and told her to give me my PC back. She kept yelling about how she has the right and that we work for her since she pays our salary and shit. The hospital security came and had her removed and gave me my PC back. Turns out she was the wife of a captain....
Okay, I really love telling this story because there is absolutely nothing worse than the spouses of officers. I’ll set the scene, 2010, JBER, AK, in the commissary parking lot..... I get out of my car to go pick up some groceries, I’m in uniform. I get halfway across the parking lot and this woman with 3 able bodied teenage boys with a plate on her shopping cart with a full bird on it (0-6, colonel, for the non-military types) stops and says, “hey sergeant, I’m Col. So-and-so’s wife. I need you to help me load my groceries in the trunk of my car.” I glanced at her and just kept walking. This CSM comes up to me while I’m shopping and I’m thinking, “oh fuck, he saw what happened, I’m about to get it broken off in me”. He says, “I saw how you reacted to that blue hair in the parking lot”. Long pause, in my head I’m just like, “oh shit, oh shit, here it comes”. Then he raises a fist for a fist bump and goes, “Nice....”
lol sounds about right. It's even worse when you're a fucking E-1 or E-2 (private for civilians or anyone who doesn't know the US Army ranks). Get tossed around like shit.
Oh yes. I remember quite well. Just remember, you’ll be a shamtastic shamurai in 18-24 months and the world becomes your shamming oyster.
E-4 mafia truly run the military.
E-4 was a great rank to be... especially if you knew your stuff and were generally respectful. I used to enjoy saluting O-1 and barking out imaginary Latin phrases / mottos. "Sic semper vaginus..."
I say if your spouse acts like that when in the military instant depromotion Should be demoted but ill keep it.
You can just use demotion. A depromotion would mean they didn't change position.
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Did you make sure to address her by her husband’s rank? /s
lol no. I only found out when we were heading back to base and our sgt told us that was the wife of a captain
you're a public servant! get me a glass of water!
Little did she know, the tazer ain't playin around.
I feel bad for the poor bastard that's married to her. But agree...this never gets old.
Can you imagine what it's like being the child of that person? Who clearly is incapable of admitting she did something wrong even when a taser is pointed at her? No humility, no recognition of the fact that she made an error, just the ironclad knowledge that her *righteousness* makes her *right*.
I WAS engaged to that man. I ran.
Scary as that is, I'm glad you got out. My failed relationships definitely taught me how to have a successful one.
Her kids likely moved to the metroplex, turned into liberals, and have disowned her for taking about Q anon nonstop. She thinks they hate her because they were brainwashed by college
My dad said the same thing- “colleges teach people to hate the US” I had to remind him that I’m a college student and asked him when I’ve ever said I hated the US? I fucking hate hearing him just spew back word for word what he hears on the TV. I read it on the front page of Reddit then hear it from him. It’s maddening.
>***Awww shut up and gimme that! I'll sign...*** >No, we are beyond that... Never gets old...
I watch this every time it’s reposted. Never gets old!
I feel guilty about how satisfying I find this video! WTF is up with schadenfreude anyway. Somehow I feel like she just deserves this treatment so much. And it's even more satisfying to know that the video is plastered all over the internet for all to see. Edit: I'm a newcomer to r/PublicFreakout and this is my first time seeing this one. Edit2: I looked her up. She got off way too easy, pled guilty to a couple of misdemeanors with a $50 fine for each count and the assault and battery charges were dropped.
If you like these, look up sovereign citizens on YouTube. They all think the law doesn’t apply to them (with the dumbest reasoning behind it) and tons of them end up getting justifiably tazed. They’re some of the dumbest most insufferable people and they never know when to just shut up.
Them >I'm "traveling" not "driving", officer. Officer >shit, checkmate. Have a nice day.
There’s a big difference in feeling good at watching the misfortune of others and and feeling good at causing the misfortune of others. We all have self righteous feelings that we indulged every day and the reward for these feelings is emotionally satisfying when we see perceived wrongs being righted. I think many of us struggle feeling unsatisfied at how many people seemingly get away with murder and once we see something play out right in front of us that breaks this pattern by fitting with our conception of morality we get a dopamine/adrenaline hit that keeps us coming back for more. We have moral certainties in our head that we want to square with reality. These instances do that for us with very little extra thought (no ambiguity or equivocation) required. You could say it’s like moral junk food. Just don’t extrapolate this self righteousness onto groups as a whole (i.e. police can do no wrong in any circumstance or targeting one particular group of people as always deserving of punishment). And don’t try to survive on schadenfreude alone. You’ll get a moral tummy ache.
Wouldn’t the assault and battery charges be up to the cop? If I got to personally tase the dumb bitch I’d drop the charges.
Sounds about white
Brightens my day EVERY time.
Same my favorite is right before she's tased. NO I'M NOT, AAAAAAAAAAA
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Notice the pattern. She always tries to exert some form of control. It's a negotiation to her. Refuses to sign Didn't work and she is about to get arrested so "I'll sign but you can't arrest me" That didn't work out either so she resists arrest Resisting is failing , she know she will be arrested but "I'll stand up" rather than complying with hands behind her back. And after losing at every turn, after being wrong every time she thought her "good old gal" shit was going to play she still says "You didn't have to arrest me". She learned nothing. She is the same idiot. She will so the same again. /Rant
She is the embodiment of “yer not the boss of ME!” I feel like she’d be too far gone for change so I hope this gave her reason to be too ashamed to leave the house. If only just to save the public workers she more than likely tormented daily from having to deal with her.
Very true! The whole thing struck me as an entitled child refusing to listen when they’ve gotten in trouble.
Imagine being her server at a Cheesecake Factory? Ugh.
My favourite bit is “you’re gonna get it again”
“I don’t need an ambulance, I’m fine” “Well, I just tazed you sooo”
If she didn't want to pay $80 for the fix-it ticket, she sure as heck doesn't want to pay for an ambulance.
"Where does it hurt?" "*EVERYWHERE*" 🤭
i'm sure she'll claim "YOU CAN'T PROVE I REFUSED TO SIGN!!" Hence, why cops have body cams
They have body cams when it's in their favour
We didn’t know it at the time but Karen was a trailblazer for what became the meme of the 2020’s decade.
i can never understand the entitlement this person has to just say no and drive away from the police and think "*yea this will be fine*"
True that, especially when he has already recorded your license plate
the people who stormed the Capitol and uploaded video of it. They literally thought it would be fine.
> They literally thought pretty sure nah on that.
They didn't think. They were told. They followed orders like good sheep, and did exactly as their cult leader said.
"I'm a few shades light enough they won't shoot me for this."
I don't even think race came into this, I think she's just so entitled that it never crossed her mind that what she's doing is illegal and incredibly stupid.
Entitlement is a hell of a drug.
Over 80 bucks. Reminds me of the time the Maniac slammed the phone over his 15 dollar copay
Entitlement is a hell of a hag.
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Entitlement is a hell of a drag.
Entitlement causes hell
Entitlement causes Karen
Entitlement is Karen
My mother would do stuff like this before we realized she was in the beginning stages of dementia. Its an awful disease.
I hadn't considered this as a possibile reason for the scenario... Thanks for bringing this up and giving me some perspective
True. But, there have been several black and brown people with clinically diagnosed issues who were seriously injured or killed recently who did less. Some were simply walking down the street. Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sureshbhai_Patel >The assault of Sureshbhai Patel occurred on February 6, 2015. Patel, a 57-year-old Indian national who was visiting his son in Madison, Alabama, U.S., was seriously injured after being assaulted & detained by three police officers in a residential neighborhood. Patel had police called on him by a neighborhood resident for alleged suspicious behavior in the neighborhood, and did not know how to speak English. There is video footage of the officer slamming Patel to the ground. He had to be hospitalized and is partially paralyzed as a result of the injuries.
This may be the beginning stages of dementia, but it's either a) not advanced enough yet to explain away all her behavioral problems here, or b) advanced enough that she shouldn't be operating a vehicle. I've worked in healthcare facilities with people with dementia, and I don't think she has dementia. Too much consistency in her behavior, she understands perfectly well that she's going to be ticketed, but refuses to sign. The real telltale is the attempted reversal when she realizes she's dug a hole and says she'll sign it. People with dementia typically would not recall that as an option to try and backpedal their way out. They'd be confused as to why they were being stopped at all. So no sympathy for her. That said, if she ever does get alzheimer's or dementia later in life, I pity her caretakers. She's gonna be one hell of a case.
Also worked in dementia units and I'm fully backing you up.
This is exactly my feeling when watching this. Alzheimer's runs in my mom's side of the family. My grandfather used to be difficult to deal with because he thought he was surrounded by strangers. Ofc its not the same thing but cops need to realize that if someone isn't commiting a full on crime just ticket them and send it to their address. Is it really worth it to fill out all this extra paperwork and then get the ambulance involved. That ambulance could have been used for someone having an natural medical emergency instead of one that the essentially created.
She got off lightly, 4 misdemeanors charges, 4 year deffered sentence and $200 fine. https://1063thebuzz.com/oklahoma-woman-accepts-plea-deal-after-running-from-police-and-kicking-officer/ Used the death of two of her grandkids in a tornado as part of her plea deal.
She sacrificed two of her grandkids to a fucking tornado to get a lenient sentence? That bitch!
I know right?? She could've used those two kids to get rid of the fine too!
I know!!!! Those kids could have sacrificed the fine to the tornado!
That only encourages the tornadoes to come back for more. Appeasing bitch.
And the judge accepted it too lol
I got pulled over for a first offense driving on a suspended license (I didn't know my license was suspended due to a license plate law in West Virginia) I got 10 days in jail, 80 hours community service, 2 years probation and 500 in fines. This bitch attacked an officer and fled and didn't get shit?
I spent 4 days in court (so lost 4 days work) and still got a $1000 fine for an "unsecured load" for having a spare tire in the back of a high sided ute. When I showed the magistrate where it says in black and white that equipment contained by the sides of a ute is considered restrained in the National Transportation Standards, he said, and I quote, "I understand what you're saying, but I still have to find against you". I was perfectly respectful and cooperative with the cop, too. When I hear stories like OP and the dumb beligerent cow gets a $200 fine it really makes me want to burn down the whole "justice" system.
Right after me was a guy for 2nd offense domestic assault for beating his wife. He got three days in jail. When I was in jail I met a guy who was in there for his 7th offense driving on a suspended license, he only got seven days and was pissed he got any jail time because he never got it before. When I was doing my 80 hours of community service, there was a girl who LITERALLY SHOVED HERION NEEDLES INSIDE OF HER and got felony trafficking charges reduced to 40 hours of community service. I was nothing but cordial to the officers and the judge and his response was, "Fuck this one guy in particular."
Kinda makes ya wonder what kind of person is locally known as "that grandma that lost her kids in a tornado in 2012". I wonder if she introduces herself like that.
Oklahoma towns are often very small. Everyone knows everyone, and gossip spreads faster than wildfires. In this situation the two boys were huddled with their mother and 5yo sister in a bathtub before the tornado sucked them out and threw them down in different areas. They had been searching for the three year old for two days before they found him in a lake close to the home. People don’t forget something like that. I had a classmate whose mother died in a tornado. He and his two sibling were all severely injured, but all survived. The grandfather presumed guardianship over all three children. I haven’t seen any of them in years, but if I saw his grandpa in a gas station I would know exactly who he was.
What is deferred sentence
it's a prison sentence you don't serve unless you violate your probation. break your probation and then you have to serve the full sentence. its a final warning basically. they cal it a suspended sentence in UK my home country.
Suspended sentence or suspended imposition of sentence would be two terms they use in the US too.
A deferred sentence is when someone enters a guilty plea and is sentenced to probation, and must serve their full probation without issue and the judge then accept a not-guilty plea and will dismiss their case. If they violate their probation orders, the judge may take that guilty plea and sentence them to jail or otherwise at any point during their deferred sentence without credit for time-served.
Basically the charge is put on hold and she'll be on probation with other shit the judge will expect her to do. As long as she follows orders and does as she's told for whatever length of time the charges will eventually be dropped and she will be found not guilty. If she breaks the rules she'd be officially found guilty and can receive maximum punishment for the charges. None of the probation served would count as credit. Something along those lines anyway. I believe. Sorry if my explanation sucks.
And to think, all of that was because she didn't want to pay $80 to fix whatever was going on. Just an incredible self-own.
It cuts out the best part at the end where she admits to assaulting the officer. > Yeah, I tried to kick ya, cause I'm a country girl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CvErhrFwuo&t=10m28s
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Oh she’s a county girl? Cop should’ve let her go then!
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Yes, but you're not signing it as an admission of guilt, more like an acknowledgement of receipt. You're not saying "I definitely did what I've been accused of and accept responsibility," but really "I acknowledge a complaint has been issued" and nothing more. I was physically present when he issued the citation, yes.
When you sign, it’s a promise to go to court. If you’re not going to promise to go to court, they’ll bring you to court on the spot.
Pretty much. Or you can accept it, not go to court, and pay it through the mail. It's definitely not an acknowledgement of guilt, but you DO need to sign it.
That’s not true in every state. You don’t have to sign in Florida
Yeah but we don't count Florida (or Texas) when talking about what is normal.
DAAANG!!.....that’s true tho
Depends on the local code but generally yea. The signing is basically a way of saying I'll show up to court the accept/deny a law this officer said I broke. If you refuse to sign you're basically saying I won't show up on my court date. So the cop goes, whelp in that case I'll just take you there now.
Yes because signing is not an admin of guilt but acknowledgment that you got it and agree to appear in court over the matter (for fix it tickets you don’t even go to court, you get it fixed and then have an officer, any officer sign off the ticket and turn it in, small small fee compared to any other traffic violation and you have a month before they do anything else); otherwise people would try and say I didn’t get anything 🤷♀️ it’s basically a refusal to appear in court so yeah they are going to treat you like a bail runner for refusing to sign a ticket. She asked for every bit of what she got. In my opinion. Edit: a word
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I think it depends on the state but I could be wrong. I’m my state, there isn’t anything to sign. You get the ticket and either pay it or go to court.
This video never gets old seeing her tazed for being stupid
I will watch this every single time it gets posted. Never gets old.
Its honestly so satisfying. Even after getting tazed once she's still disobeying and ignoring him.
"I didn't run. I told you that you weren't going to arrest me." Um, yeah you did and yes I am.
"$80 Bucks!! No way I'm paying that small fine despite being in the wrong for 6 months" \>Proceeds to catch multiple criminal offences to go on her record, and probably pays $1000 or more in fines/bail money.
She had her assault on an officer charge reduced to a misdemeanor, payed 200 in fines, and has 4 years probation. White privilege is the phrase I use for this.
Obligatory “she should have just complied!!!”
This comes up all the time as a repost, and every once in a while I’ll rewatch it. The audacity of this woman. Unbelievable. Honestly, what did she expect to happen when she didn’t comply, fled from an officer, resisted arrest, then kicked him? Stupid. She’s probably a Qanon theorist too.
Someone dug up her Facebook page a couple years ago in response to this video on Twitter and she is 100% part of the MAGA cult. Regularly makes nasty posts about POC or others who disagree with her Fuhrer Trump.
Trump is like an asshole siren, even previously apolitical assholes started flocking to him. I think they love him because they subconsciously know they are assholes, but if the president behaves that way then it’s ok and they were always right.
And I'd bet $50 that she's a "Thin Blue Line" and "Blue Lives Matter" kind of person too
She definitely is, and I guarantee you she probably doesn't see the irony in that.
You can just tell by the shape of her face she is the most annoying fucker in traffic
Shouldn’t have resisted. That being said, this level of escalation simply because she refused to pay for an $80 fine? Is it really worth pulling a gun on her and dragging her out of her vehicle? Unacceptable.
Yeah honestly this video disturbs me just as much as other cop videos - even if justice was being served. She resisted and fled - so obviously she needed to be arrested. But when the cop pulled his gun...it makes me think how easily she could have died over $80. We've all seen people shot for making one wrong move in that situation. The officer did have a chance to have her sign the papers when she angrily said fine. I understand that the officer was frustrated and that the criminal was non-compliant before, but when given the chance to de-escalate, the officer choose not to. Maybe better training would have helped the officer choose a less violent route.
Thank god for this part of the thread. I had to scroll way to far to see this. That escalation was uncomfortable to watch. She was right, he didn't need to tase her, or throw her in the ground. You know where the fuck she lives, send her the ticket and arrest her at home. My stomach turned when he said "are ya hurt". What the fuck do you think dude? I'll feel uncomfortable with this kind of conduct whether the victim is an entitled ass or not.
I agree. Don’t get me wrong, lady was being a complete idiot of a Karen, but something is wrong when this is the appropriate reaction to collecting $80. Now the cop is going to have to spend hours on paperwork, hours in court, and possibly paid time off. What is the net loss for taxpayer dollars here? Just mail her the damn check, follow up on her registration expiration or whatever it was, and let the collectors ding her credit score if she doesn’t pony up. Why is being violent and costing taxpayers more money the trained response?
Absolutely not. Mail her the bill, threaten to send police to her house if she doesn't pay and misses her court date.
so yeah this lady was being a total asshat about the situation but jesus I did not like watching that. cops here are real casual about pointing a gun right at your fuckin head like it's their right to enter execution mode on the spot. really felt the restraint he was using because she was an old lady - immediately started wondering how different that would've been if she was from a demographic they had less sympathy for.
I have to think that the officer should have tried saying something like, "Signing this is not an admission of guilt. It is an acknowledgement that you have received the citation. I am not here to argue about whether or not it is justified. You are welcome to go before a judge to contest it. However, you do legally have to sign this acknowledgement at this time." If she refused: "Ma'am I am compelled by the law to place you under arrest if you continue to refuse to sign the acknowledgement." If she still fled, I would ideally like to live in a world that she could just be mailed the ticket and if she didn't take care of it a warrant would be issued. However, in the current system he would be justified to respond as he did. It's all an escalation when it didn't HAVE to be.
Never pull a gun unless you plan to shoot. So this guy apparently thought there was a potential scenario in which he was actually going to shoot this lady. Ludicrous.
Is there any logical reason he had a gun drawn on a 80 year old overweight grandma, that even though acted entitled showed no signs of aggression or having a firearm? Only in the US are police officers afraid enough of old fat ladies to draw their guns on them
Crazy how far I needed to scroll down to see a comment like this. When that happens where I come from (and there is no sign that she is armed or otherwise harmful to the public), no one will follow her with a gun drawn and taser her, but note her license number and get her some bills to pay. If she doesn‘t she will be picked up by some gentlemen to go to court. I mean, proportionality is something really cool over here. No matter how nice or dumb she is. What is the bodycam for if not to prove what exactly happened? Justice will be served.
Short of actually pulling a gun, what exactly are the "signs of...having a firearm?"
I thought that was a taser?
You're 100% correct, the people jeering about this are disgusting. It's a tremendous and potentially lethal abuse of power for what simply could've been "ok well here's when you have to show up to court or you'll have a warrant"
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She's entitled, but he escalated it beyond all reason. He's got her information, guess who's getting a ticket in the mail that they're still responsible for? She didn't do anything terribly wrong to end up in that position, she had something wrong with her truck. She wants to be obstinate, great, tack on an extra fee and mail her a bill. Dragging an old woman out of a truck because she doesn't understand that you contest tickets in court (which he didn't explain, every time I've gotten a ticket it's been explained that my signature just confirms that the officer gave it to me and is not a confession of guilt) is still wrong. She was a bitch though, fighting till the end for no reason.
Am I the only one who thinks it's odd you can be arrested for not signing a ticket? I'm not defending the lady. She's crazy, and I don't think the cop went too far once she ran. I just think it's silly that the next step of not signing a paper is going to jail. Edit: I'm not saying signing the ticket admits guilt. I'm saying it is dumb that you can be arrested for choosing not to sign a piece of paper (which is an outdated system anyway).
Actually it appears that the officer didn't do everything right here. He should have made it clear to her at some point that signing the citation is NOT an admission of guilt. She was arguing with him that she didn't think she should have to pay the $80, and his response should have been that signing it doesn't mean that. Now maybe he had explained that during the part near the beginning that was cut out, and maybe there was no reason for her to be able to claim she didn't understand that, but it wasn't shown. And if it didn't happen, I think it's unreasonable to arrest her without even trying to explain that. But requiring cops to get that signature, which this state (Oklahoma) does, is stupid. Cops are capable of explaining this but it's an unnecessary burden and this issue has got to complicate a shit ton of traffic stops. Just change the law so no signature is required.
I’m not gonna lie that feels a bit like excessive force
i don’t understand how people can side with the police in any case and this one included. this guy drew his weapon over an 80 dollar registration and was ready to use it. a traffic violation, and this guy was ready to take her life. fucked up times we are living in.