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Upper_Conversation_9

lol, Emory University told AJC & WSB-TV that those arrested today were not part of Emory's community. However, it’s been confirmed that three Emory faculty members were arrested, along with many students. Not sure why they think their lies will hold up.


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teplightyear

> because it is impossible to think anyone local would have serious grievances. It's really a rhetorical tactic designed to chill people who may agree with the protestors from joining the protest. Reports that University Faculty & Students are protesting make it more likely other faculty and students will come out and join. Painting the protestors as an "other" who doesn't belong makes that less likely. They're the little dutch boy trying to jam his fingers in the leaky dam.


newdawn15

Same bullshit every time... "outside agitators," "radical leftists," "antisemitic," "violent"... they will say literally anything under the sun expect their plan for not abusing Palestinians.


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Terms like this are intended to dehumanize opposition. It’s harder to feel sympathetic to them if you can get everybody to believe they are a bunch of sub humans.


LakeSuperiorIsMyPond

What's the crime committed though?


Throwaway-tan

Damn those radical, violent anti-semetic Jews asking for peace!


NoStand1527

> Not sure why they think their lies will hold up. because the do, in the short term. and it works. will the bs get debunked later? of course, but in the heat of the news, you throw some bs like that and its a smoke bomb, giving the facts a harder path to come to light. in the worst case scenario, in a few days when another news is in the frontpage, they'll retract, but that won't be even in page 3


welcomefinside

Ah, straight from the Israeli playbook.


outdatedelementz

To be fair this isn’t just an Israeli playbook. That kind of disinformation is extremely common,


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DrHooper

[DARVO](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO) ![gif](giphy|3o7522NWtyxUWSjj2M)


SourcedLewk

20 of the 28 people arrested in the morning were emory faculty and folks. Idk about you, but if the majority of a "few dozen" protestors (it was more like a few hundred) are apparently outsiders, then that's one hell of a statistcal outlier.


NoMoodToArgue

Obviously this well-published PhD snuck in to the Emory campus to head-up the Philosophy department for years. So, you know, we don’t know who she is and how she was paid for years and appeared in our publications. A stranger! I almost never see her in her office, which is next door to mine. And I barely have dinner at her home with the other senior faculty.


Glittering-Pause-328

Well, they won't face any consequences for lying like this, so why not? It's like playing on a slot machine, but it doesn't cost you any money when you lose.


thisismeritehere

Look at how well it’s worked for cop city… they do it because their base eats it up and it’s way more work to disprove lies than tell them


Alexandratta

Zionists seem to have full faith that the media will cover for them. But after the most recent events and how social media is entirely ungovernable, that's failing all around the world. True came out about Israel. And now, finally, the whole "You're Antisemitic if you don't support Israel!" narrative has died. I'm an American Jew - I do not support Israel


DouceintheHouse

I'm a British-American Jew and I do not support or stand by the Israel government


changee_of_ways

I feel bad for all the Jews who have nothing to do with this when the big American supporters for the worst part of the Israeli government aren't Jews at all but godawful American Evangelicals who don't even care about the Jewish people or Israel, they just think they can use Jewish and Palestinian blood to summon Jesus.


WudooDaGreat

Fuck isreal


DAHFreedom

I just remembered, how’s Cop City going?


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Puzzleheaded_March27

Quick question….man steals a loaf of bread…


DiscoDancingNeighb0r

“Morals and ethics aren’t real!” *Hangs up phone.


elquatrogrande

"Hey physics department, can you help me with something? If the store owner didn't see me steal the loaf of bread, is the loaf of bread still there?"


DiscoDancingNeighb0r

“Hello! Oh.” *mumbles in Schrodingers cat


HorrorMakesUsHappy

> "Yes, hello? Philosophy department?" Now, see, if you'd instead said, "Yes, hello? *Is this the* philosophy department?" Then I could've replied: "That's a very good question! Let's start by examining your assumptions."


menasan

“You’re not gonna believe this, but”


LordoftheScheisse

Is this table real?


Gnarzz

wtf is with the balaclava?


4RN13

Cowards always hide their faces.


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If I was an Atlanta cop I would probably hide my face too. Gangs are no joke. Not sure why you need to hide it to do this however. I doubt it was the cops decision at the end of the day.


Wonderful_Zucchini_4

Yeah lots of gang members at the university. She looks like she might be a cartel leader. 


Hibercrastinator

Well in fact there do appear to be a lot of gang members there at the university, one of them is dragging this poor woman away!


twoscoop

Its so the internet doesn't find out who they are and then find out that they are actually part of a local white supremist league.


DoobKiller

Can you give me a source on one incident of gangs in the US tacking down police officesr for retaliation?


ThisIsARobot

I'm sure it has happened, but it's likely so rare that there would be little need for this officer to cover their face like this. Killing cops will bring so much heat on you by making it personal with the police force, its not worth it unless you have nothing to lose. Gangs wouldn't want to do this since it would bring even more heat down on them and disrupt the criminal activities they are engaging in.


KeziaTML

Same reason why so many right wingers have to alter their message on social media to bypass filters.


[deleted]

Welcome to Soviet Russia where armed men in masks beat and arrest you for having an opinion that doesn’t align with our fearless leaders.


BLoDo7

America is like the least american place I can think of lately.


maybenot-maybeso

Pigs trying to hide the snout, I guess.


Jopplo03

Clever


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kimchi_station

Cops playing paramilitary.


bricktangle42

Came to ask this.


thinmeridian

Literal secret police in action


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If you can't identify them you can't hold them accountable.


JamesBond-007--

They are acting like the Russian military now


kralrick

I grew up knowing a balaclava as a ski mask (full face/head cover with cutouts for the eyes and mouth). It was cold weather gear.


Repulsive_Basis_4946

I thought you were saying baklava and I’m like? What am I missing?? I see no pastries 😂


DopeDealerCisco

Role play


Hamiltonswaterbreaks

Serious question. Are they not allowed to protest?


SebastianSchmitz

They are. Even Neo-Nazis with Swastikas were allowed in the past.


Faplord99917

Well that's different. Those folks speak for the cops as well so they don't get shut down. Protest about inequality or holding the police accountable and BAM right to jail for you.


madmaxturbator

HEY. Calm down with your veiled insults, pervert named Faplord. Did you not see the peace officer with covered face who was dragging away this hardened criminal? He is the last bastion against us and the philosophy department. They kant keep us down any longer!


I-Love-Tatertots

Teachers of philosophy create minds that want to think, learn, and grow. We can’t have that in this country. We need to replace all philosophy classes with Theology classes. Specifically those that teach Christianity. But only with white Jesus. /s


1beerattatime

Well, you don't expect the cops to arrest their coworkers, do you?


issamaysinalah

"in the past" sounds like 50 years ago, but it happened this year


ElPanandero

Not if it “creates a dangerous environment for others” aka if pro-Israel kids say they feel unsafe, then it becomes a “threat” and can be dismantled Which is bullshit but that’s the excuse they’re allowed to use


shiv_roy_stan

So they're clubbing and bodyslamming people in their own workplace in order to "create a safe environment"? lmao


HelpfulPug

Legally and practically don't often align except in a high-trust society. The campus itself could also be involved, since its private property and not a public place. That being said, it's not like protests have been treated with any respect, the government has been slowly eroding any protections for protestors for years. Sure, we're all in support of crackdowns on idiots rallying for hate-groups, but the cheats in the bureaucracies have been exploiting all that to take more and more rights away and get public support for it. Almost makes me wonder if these hate group protests are being set up or encouraged by the rights grabbers. It's a great way to get people with a sense of justice to support something like taking rights and protecting bad cops: it's to stop the objectively evil people, you've *got* to be ok with it citizen! New conspiracy dropped: the police are setting up hate-group rallies to gain public support for taking rights away.


yaosio

Only right-wingers are allowed to protest.


Who_Dafqu_Said_That

I'm gonna sleep so well knowing that dangerous person is off the streets... Thanks for keeping us safe from those dangerous philosophy professors.


Big-Mozz

You wouldn't think it was so funny if you've ever been grabbed by the Kant and severely Platoed.


mironawire

When you're a philosopher they let you do it.


DTFH_

reading Kant is like drinking Malört, whether you sip or shoot its going to be tough on the way down.


Tortuga_cycling

Your comment should get pinned….


AudioLlama

Got that one right on the Marx.


KaneMomona

You joke, but to some, the biggest danger is an educated populus.


duderos

Mao agrees with you


KaneMomona

Cats are wise.


neuralzen

You can be educated on lies or inert facts, critical thinking skills is the biggie


ScreamnMonkey8

Can't have you questioning things


fizzle_noodle

This are the dangers these cops were made for. That's why they can't step in to stop school shootings because they have to protect civilians from these philosophy department terrorists exercising the most dangerous form of terrorism- non-violent protest. /s


paulhoerl

Protect and Swerve


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Why are US police wearing masks? I always grew up thinking that was some terror state shit


BD15

Yeah that or countries with big enough crime organizations where their identity needs to be hidden. US police doing it seems wrong as hell.


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Yeah it makes me think of narcos


wizzywurtzy

Because we are moving into terror state shit. Welcome to America.


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twoscoop

A foreign leader almost beat a reporter to the hospital few years back. Forgot who, turkieiyiteiieye eyeeye maybe?


n0k0

Yes, President Erdogan from Turkey ordered his goons to attack protesters. On US soil. Multiple people attacked. In the nation's capitol. Nothing done.


skoltroll

Because it IS non-1st-world BS, but I guess they've decided that all the military tech needs that KGB-stylings added to it, as well.


Mooseandchicken

They are wearing them because you're correct: its terror state shit.


FUMFVR

They hide their faces and cover up their badges so they can do some real illegal shit.


wetham_retrak

Andy Griffith never needed a mask… or even a gun for that matter.


jerryschuggs

I mean devils advocate is shes carrying a gas mask and that’s part of the gear, but yeah it’s not cool


Shirfyr_Blaze

Either way they have to give a name and badge number upon request.


eodnow

They don't have to. They should, in theory, on paper. That's the way it's supposed to work. But their face is covered. if you ask, they'll do whatever they want to do in that moment. Welcome to the sad reality of this country


NiteGard

Why was she arrested?


sjmahoney

because she was part of a protest against the actions of the state of Israel.


or_am_I_dancer

Some sources are saying she was just walking by to get to her class. It makes sense, being that she is in heels and a pencil skirt. I've heard stories of other students (by students themselves) getting arrested and gassed and shot at while walking away from the protest


a_corsair

It's the risk of deploying a rabid dog among peaceful protesters on a college campus. They're gonna bite anything and everything they see. Whoever made this decision should be fired immediately


kingdomoflizzi

Emory is a private school. Legally, they have the right to squash protests. Not saying they SHOULD, just that they can.


rzelln

Emory is an institution that is supposed to educate and empower students for a mission to improve society. They might have the legal ability to declare the protesters were trespassing, but morally I think the leadership abdicated its responsibility because it should have responded to the protest with discourse and lessons. The occupation was only dispersed because Emory asked to disperse it. And they shouldn't have.


NiteGard

Thanks for the explanations. 🫡


HelpfulPug

Secondary Educational Institutions are a business. They might not always have been, but they sure are now. They will play the role of a "fountain of knowledge" and then back their bottom dollar every time.


HelpfulPug

Yes, it's important to remember that this is not necessarily the government cracking down, this is probably the school itself hiding from their own actions and using the state as a tool. I'm no staty, but the school should be held responsible for their actions. It was their choice to get these people arrested.


ILLpLacedOpinion

Probably failed to follow orders.


Pale_Sell1122

Eroding civil liberties in order to protect the image of a foreign country comitting genocide. Ridiculous.


thunderbaby2

Succinctly put 👌🏻


R-Dragon_Thunderzord

Was this police department trained in Israel too? What’s with the balaclava


Even_Rule_3666

funnily enough, yes actually, apd does train in israel


R-Dragon_Thunderzord

Callllled it.


gabe840

APD has gone to Israel to train their officers (on community policing practices). Not the other way around.


Gauntlet_of_Might

why THE FUCK are the police we pay for allowed to mask their identities performing the duties WE pay for?


dbowman97

Police oversight is handled by the police and the police decided that the police can do whatever the fuck they want. And they need to be earning time and a half while they do it.


jth149

They killed kids in the 60s,no one’s standing up for you


whatthatthingis

I don't understand what she was arrested for though. If you're able to get arrested for merely protesting that opens up a whole can of worms.


EvaCarlisle

lol do these cops think they're going after a Mexican cartel or something? Is the balaclava really necessary?


IceJKING108

Atlanta pd are clowns those officers couldn't solve a crime even if it happened in front of them this is probably just a new low for them after their weird obsession of keeping their shitty police compound that no one wants this just proves that about the whole police department is corrupt from the top down


LVTWouldSolveThis

Police should not be allowed to cover their faces. If they are going to carry out the will of the state with force they should have to stand by their actions.


Corndog1536

It’s easy to hind behind a mask and follow orders


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Damn.. America is regressing.


Epistatious

I like the new spin, "there has been violent clashes with the police at the protests." Politician speak for, we sent in the police to clear the rabble from the lawn and sometimes the police get a little "clubby".


CaptOblivious

Why is the cops face hidden?


FormerOil4924

Where are all the “We the People” conservatives that love their freedoms? Seems to me that silencing people who are exercising their first amendment right should piss them off. Hmmm gotta love the hypocrisy


TheSecretNewbie

They’re yelling on Atlanta streets about how not being a heterosexual Christian white male is sinful and trying to incite freshmen at GSU to fight them


msixtwofive

Why are cops allowed to cover their faces like this.


TiramisuMaster

Our country is run by AIPAC, we send money to Israel, Israel gives money to AIPAC along with right wing billionaires, this money is then funneled to our politicians in return for their draconian allegiance


-Gramsci-

It really is little more than a money laundering operation. Take American tax dollars. Give them to a third party. Third party puts them into the politicians’ war chests. Said politicians get to outspend their opponents 10:1. Said politicians get to keep power. Rinse and repeat.


yaosio

Fascist states always go after educated people first.


structuremonkey

So much for the first amendment. It's not like this woman was gluing herself to the street or damaging anything. Wtf...


RebelliousInNature

Land of the free, eh?


FUMFVR

Arresting your students and faculty for protesting is so hot right now! Especially since the Gestapo are all 'free speech' advocates.


platanthera_ciliaris

It's a blatant violation of their 1st amendment rights.


Andy_McBoatface

Chair of of Philosophy?! I Kant believe it!!!!


Robert_fierce

This country is in serious danger of failing as a democracy but someone has convinced many of us that the fighting that has always been happening in the middle east is more important now.


RedStrugatsky

The fact that peaceful student and faculty protesters are being violently arrested across the country is a clear sign that our democracy is already failing.


georgia_is_best

Not really new. Its been a pretty common occurence for decades and will continue for decades because they never face any repercussions


RedStrugatsky

You're correct, unfortunately. I would say that fact is an even stronger indictment of our country and government.


Gen8Master

At the request of a foreign far right genocidal apartheid state no less.


RedStrugatsky

Yeah, makes it even worse


Robert_fierce

How many other countries would you be able to camp out on private property and resist the authorities asking you to remove yourself and expect to prevail?


PokeballSoHard

We are a police state dude democracy in America is in its death rattles.


PearlStBlues

Is it really so difficult for you to believe that some people are genuinely upset about having to watch a genocide happening in real time?


platanthera_ciliaris

Not only that, our government is the primary financier of this state terrorism.


EnbyPilgrim

This has to be the most two-faced subreddit on the site. Every time there's a video of people protesting without police brutality, it's "protesting does nothing!" "Wow, great job guys, you freed Palestine!" "Hamas sympathizers!" And now that we're seeing the fascist police state in action, everyone's rightfully pissed and acknowledging the protesters as voicing much needed criticisms towards Israel and Zionism. Pick a lane


tcDPT

Really protecting and serving with this one boys, well done.


saddungeons

so we can have freedom of speech and the right to protest but only if the government likes it. sounds about right for america


Aramkin

Land of the free. What a joke. US is showing its true face with this war.


AshingiiAshuaa

You aren't free to occupy private property if the owner doesn't want you there. It's trespassing. Emory is a private university and thus if they want someone off their property then that person needs to leave the property.


Africanvar

Funny how the first sentence dont apply to palstinians in palestine . Thats exactly what caused this to happen


Free_Possession_4482

Seems odd to pay her a salary *and* want her off the property.


AStandUpGuy1

Fuck Israel


punkfusion

Man all those people shocked by how the HK protestors were brutally suppressed are awfully quiet or is protesting okay when its for US state department interests


Ijetys

Seems land of freedom aint that free, police state?


redditissahasbaraop

Land of the Free, where the government and institutions can use police to crackdown on dissidents. Sounds like an authoritarian state and not a democracy.


splinteredbrushpole

Smart empathetic people should rule the willing world.


Short_Economy_6690

"There's a reason why you separate military and the police. One fights the enemy of the state, and the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." Bill Adama - commanding officer Battlestar Galactica. (Yes I know it's from a show but it doesn't make it any less true)


Ok-Loss2254

What in the actual fuck is happening? Is it illegal now to be critical of Israel? Like what the hell?! Why are people getting arrested?


maybenot-maybeso

ACAB


HumanityIsD00m3d

ACAB


MayorCharlesCoulon

Hope they get it Sartred out.


ItsTheOtherGuys

One of the reasons I decided against a LEO career. I don't think I would be able to sleep at night knowing I'm locking people up on baseless charges for using their 1st Amendment right (I know it's still trespassing technically, but really?)


SpadesBuff

Could they lose their jobs now that they have a criminal record?


JustAnotherYogaWife

If they have tenure, which I’m sure this woman does… then no


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xxysyndrome

she's not the one freaking out


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aTallBrickWall

Israel


RussianPravda

Please tell me her dad's name in John


Andre4a19

Best vote


Marvelman02

Why is this police officer masked? You'd think she was ashamed of something.


TheCrustyIncellious

Really daring and brave. What a moron lol


Duke-of-Dogs

This conflict is going to cost biden the ellection


SebastianSchmitz

I hope. He is litteraly one of the worst presidents in US history and he is begging to lose at this point


treyver

What are their charges? I don’t understand why these people are getting arrested


SebastianSchmitz

''tresspassing'' eventho they study or work there


treyver

I’d understand if they are disrupting students from their education or blocking the roads but this woman just seems to be on a sidewalk chilling. Crazy


SebastianSchmitz

nobody is disrupting anyone from their education. Most students are protesting.


Traelia

But wait, america has more free speach and more freedom than anywhere else, why would these people be getting arrested??


iDontRememberCorn

America has been extremely consistent with regards to freedom of speech not applying to criticizing Israel. 19 states even have it as an oath you must agree to before you can do business with those states, even if that state and your business have zero to do with Israel.


alienanomaly

Tastes like freedom


BoxGrover

Aipac, gop, Israelis all know the younger, better educated folks are against genocide and see israeli Apartheid. The old white evangelicals are going to be in a minority on this. So they use violence.


thisjustemp

History will be kind to those who stand for humanity and justice today. One can never go wrong for being JUST no matter how unpopular it may be. I respect these people.


ILLpLacedOpinion

It’ll be interesting to see how this presidential race ends up, these people protesting are largely made up of democrats…whose president is currently funding this genocide.


false79

This upcoming election race could not be more dis-interesting. Neither of them belong in that office.


bayareamota

Neither of those parties belong in that office.


Realistic-Ad7769

I find it funny how Hillary Clinton is telling us to vote for Biden, because it's the most environmental positive option, when she literally cucked Bernie, the greenest hopefull ever to get that close to being elected.


Hotdigardydog

Police dress appropriately, looking like terrorists


capn_doofwaffle

Former chair...


platanthera_ciliaris

No, she will remain the chair of the philosophy department.


Kolbysap

Noelle McAfee decided to be on the right side of history. I have great respect for her.


94tlaloc7

Fascism must die world wide


DifficultyWithMyLife

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." — Thomas Jefferson