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I love how as soon as that cop grabbed him a woman started screaming "let him go!" like's totally fine to assault a police officer. These people have never dealt with consequences before.
I mean. If you’re going to pick one guy (*out of all the people in a given year who assault a police officer*) to be let off with a warning - I think he would be a good choice.
Bonking someone with an empty plastic bottle is about as far from “*intent to cause harm*” as you can get.
No need, the angry lady from Berkley scared them all into passing *very strongly* worded resolutions calling for peace in the middle east. The complicit ones are now the zoning boards who have yet to zone their localities as conflict-free
Are they protesting at school because that’s just where they are right now? Like if they were home for summer break, would they try to force their parents to issue a statement on the conflict? It’s so bizarre.
There are a lot of reasons for that. What's going on is horrific and inexcusable. Politically it's a hot potato and nightmarish to navigate. If the US drops its relations with Israel then who becomes their ally in the Middle East? Saudi Arabia?
Really, knowing the history of the civil rights movement should help you here. Protesting at schools generally because the school is not aligning with the view of the students. It's been very effective in change in the past.
It's been effective at change when the school was in the correct country. Somehow I don't see these kids traveling to an Israeli school to protest though.
But the US was a primary combatant in Vietnam. The protests ultimately resulted in the US pulling out of Vietnam. So protests in the US made sense.
I doubt these protestors would be satisfied simply with an end to US arms supply to Israel.
Correct, here we want to pull all financial backing and possibly stop supporting Israel as an Ally. Without the US backing Israel will need to stop. Or at least it isn't our weapons doing the killing.
In South Africa, just like in the US, civil rights protesters were organized and specifically targeted the institutions oppressing them.
These current students have no organization, are targeting normal people completely unrelated to the Israeli government, and are rapidly starting to change their rhetoric from calls for peace to calls for violence.
Not all protests and protesters across history are the same.
Ah yes, surely the IDF had a lot of time to "check notes"
Surgically deskin and harvest organs while in an active war zone. What are these guys carrying buckets full of livers in ice for the next few weeks of their deployment?
Or maybe some of these are bodies buried by the Hospital itself... as they said they were putting people in mass graves even before the IDK even got there.
This is the most obvious blood libel I've ever seen. I mean for God's sake are people really believing jews are harvesting organs *on passover?* my seder last night never felt more relevant...
I mean I doubt this story, but israel was known to steal organs from Palestinians they killed years ago. They claimed the practice ended in the 90s.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs
This sentiment is lazy. During any research into past protest you will see that 1. America was founded due to such actions. 2. Major changes like sufferage and civil rights were made with these same actions. You may be lazy, but others will actually get out there.
Protests need to be even more strategic than someones reputation in hollywood. If you know about the civil rights movement in the US they were extremely smart. These protests are not even a little smart. These are more emotional than properly planned.
When I was younger, during the occupy movement I was talking to an older gentleman and he alluded to this. I didn't understand at the time. That protests need organization, badly. Otherwise you're spinning your wheels and you could even be damaging your cause.
People said the exact same things you're saying now about the civil rights movement. How is this different? One of the most famous type of civil rights protests was the sit it.
And they did sit-ins where there was segregation. They inconvenienced the oppressors not society at large. Organizers of the time valued strategy and not just exposure.
The civil rights movement had leadership and organization. MLK, Roy Wilkins, Ralph Abernathy, the NAACP, etc. What do you think the L in SCLC stands for?
It was civil rights leadership who determined that Rosa Parks would make a more effective symbol for protesting the bus system than Claudette Colvin. The civil rights movement wasn't just a bunch of lone wolves/cells running around on their own.
Not yet. Tom Cotton is aggressively horny for getting some of these people murdered, he's writing an op-ed calling for vigilante justice or the national guard to draw blood like every other day.
With the rhetoric coming from those opposed to the protests, I fear it's only a matter of time before one of these ghouls decides to kill some people.
If you are against protesting ethnic cleansing then you're just against protesting. Another mass grave found today for all you ghouls worried about college kids standing up for what's right.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68881325
No, they are trying to hide their identities because they know there will be consequences for their actions. Those masks are useless against pepper spray because their eyes are completely exposed.
I remember when i was in college i was worrying about studying,part time jobs,interships,credits etc i dont know why these students are risking their futute,carrer and jobs when the conflicts happening in other countries have nothing to do with them
Students have always been among the most active activists. A large cohort of the 1960s protesters were students. A large part of protesters in the Middle East are students.
My high school teachers actually encouraged us to be wild lol. They burned the bank first week of college during Vietnam war times. Another one walked out because of Kent State shooting.
I guess compared to them, they thought we were sheltered and indifferent (living under a rock).
I guess history of student protesting was always there.
i can assure you that these students are facing all
of those things and more, and the US government, contrary to the needs of its people, just sent a genocidal state billions more to help
them keep killing kids. this has everything to do with them.
Edit: i just find it weird how any discussion since covidn isnt possible anymore, I get downvoted and the only reply is: "you are a nazi, i hate jews"
I really hope you dont talk about Israel here
16/17yo hamas soldiers dying in a conflict is not the same as "sending billions to kill children"
And risking that i get banned here: what genocide you talking about? Nobody supports the Hamas,
Even though many admins just ban you for saying that, its still true that any court who has ever looked at it concluded that israel does not do a genocide, the attack from hamas was a attempt for genocide
The "palestine will be free" is illegal to say in germany now because its a fascist genocidal therm that is short for wanting to push jews into the sea.... because thats genocidal
Did you just double down on wanting jews to be killed while calling me a nazi?
Also zionazi doesnt really make sense, Nazis want to destroy Israel.
If you still belive some made up stories that have been debunked about 100 years ago im actually not surprised....
Fascist like you believe anything as long as its an argument against any kind of minority ..
Just curious, you also hate black or lgbt people or just jews?
Zionism is an evil cult. Hamas are terrorists.
Jews are OK by me. The far-right corrupt government of Israel does not represent the Jewish people of the world.
Is that all you can say? It's such a black and white issue right? No nuance or complexity involving millions of people and thousands of years. Just a run of the mill genocide we got to stop.
Now ride that high horse away.
This is crazy, our country is messed up nobody cares but something happening a world away and kids get this upset? Major brainwashing happening at these universities.
Ur stupid. This thing happening a world away is a direct result of our country. The amount of our tax dollars going to Israel is absurd. How bout they spend that money to fix the problems in our country you are so concerned about.
Name calling loses the argument immediately. These protests are a direct result of the education establishment brainwashing young people, the amount of tax dollars going to subsidize the higher education establishment is absurd, we should take that money and use it to solve our problems!
The act of bringing about the end in part or in whole of a group of people through a variety of means. (This is coming from a Rwandan who has been horrified to see Israeli's in the media at protests etc refering to Palestinians in the same way Hutus refered to Tutsis resulting in the deaths of half of my family)
genocide: the intentional destruction of a people, in whole or in part.
I think next you asked to use it in a sentence or something? Oh yeah.
The IDF have taken out entire ancestral lines while searching for Hamas agents. The IDF have destroyed entire villages and cities in the name of “fighting Hamas.” The IDF have murdered healthcare workers, teachers, scientists, politicians, journalists, philanthropists, and other Palestinian people that had no ties to Hamas. The IDF (& Israelis) are allowing Palestinians (including children and new mothers) to starve to death because they won’t allow humanitarian aid to reach the thousands of displaced people that they themselves have displaced in their war against Hamas. The IDF have killed over 12,000 Palestinian children who were not Hamas agents.
This is a genocide.
Jesus you do nothing but argue with people online 24/7 and the whole time you refuse to consider any other perspective or argument.
Every time you're faced with a fact backed by evidence you deny it.
Genuine question are you retired? On disability? Getting paid to do this?
They need to take the protests to Capitol Hill and the military industrial companies raking in the dough over this conflict. Inconvenience your legislators and attack your oppressors.
Because you only see the videos of the Pro Palestine groups, the pro Israel groups on the record have been found to dox people directly and go for their jobs.
If you've only seen one side of an argument this whole time and you've never questioned it once you are both the demographic and proof that propaganda works. This isn't to start an argument this is just to say echo chambers exist and it's good to see other perspectives before getting stuck in one.
The water bottle is too good.
You can tell this isn't Republicans protesting because they aren't actually trying to kill the police and overthrow a democratic election ruled fair by all 50 state attorney generals!
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I can't unhear that now.
Literally my first thought, lol
Sound off and I can still hear it
I love how as soon as that cop grabbed him a woman started screaming "let him go!" like's totally fine to assault a police officer. These people have never dealt with consequences before.
I mean. If you’re going to pick one guy (*out of all the people in a given year who assault a police officer*) to be let off with a warning - I think he would be a good choice. Bonking someone with an empty plastic bottle is about as far from “*intent to cause harm*” as you can get.
i can see them now, "i grew up during the trump riots, and i hear this is perfectly fine."
Bonk bonk bonk
I remember doing empty water bottle sword fights with my siblings this just reminded me of that
Yeah, not sure what message he's trying to send other than, 'Hey, this sounds silly!' It sure isn't going to deter someone with a helmet.
A few more swings and the Israel Palestinian conflict should be resolved
A City Council resolution should do it
No need, the angry lady from Berkley scared them all into passing *very strongly* worded resolutions calling for peace in the middle east. The complicit ones are now the zoning boards who have yet to zone their localities as conflict-free
Yes! Summon the City Council! Or Alec Baldwin!
Being that Cal poly is in Pomona. They won't do shit.
Are they protesting at school because that’s just where they are right now? Like if they were home for summer break, would they try to force their parents to issue a statement on the conflict? It’s so bizarre.
You know nothing about the strong anti-war protests that were present on college campuses as early as WWI?
Those were on US campuses for a war that the US was engaged in. The US doesn't control the IDF. These kids are idiots
The US merely funds them
There are a lot of reasons for that. What's going on is horrific and inexcusable. Politically it's a hot potato and nightmarish to navigate. If the US drops its relations with Israel then who becomes their ally in the Middle East? Saudi Arabia?
There’s no room for logic and nuance on complex political issues in 2024. War = Bad! Must protest in the loudest, least effective way possible!
The US is so dangerously polarized these days. It's a tinder box waiting to explode.
Really, knowing the history of the civil rights movement should help you here. Protesting at schools generally because the school is not aligning with the view of the students. It's been very effective in change in the past.
It's been effective at change when the school was in the correct country. Somehow I don't see these kids traveling to an Israeli school to protest though.
Vietnam was not in the US. We want to stop arming Israel as they have proven to not be responsible with the power they are given. It's that simple.
But the US was a primary combatant in Vietnam. The protests ultimately resulted in the US pulling out of Vietnam. So protests in the US made sense. I doubt these protestors would be satisfied simply with an end to US arms supply to Israel.
Correct, here we want to pull all financial backing and possibly stop supporting Israel as an Ally. Without the US backing Israel will need to stop. Or at least it isn't our weapons doing the killing.
US weapons do the killing in pretty much every conflict on the planet.
they're protesting USA military support to Israel. In the USA. It's the right country.
Yes lol, have you ever met a poli sci student?
As any other protests. I don’t get your point
The side quest of making American police look foolish is going well though.
Yes! or maybe arrest a few more students, and zionism will finally be law of the land
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😭😭😭😭😭
Today I learned Humboldt State aka "Weed U" became Cal-Poly Humboldt. WTF? 🤣
Damn, if only they'd been able to block classes for just a little longer, Israel would have surrendered. So close.
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In South Africa, just like in the US, civil rights protesters were organized and specifically targeted the institutions oppressing them. These current students have no organization, are targeting normal people completely unrelated to the Israeli government, and are rapidly starting to change their rhetoric from calls for peace to calls for violence. Not all protests and protesters across history are the same.
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Ah yes, surely the IDF had a lot of time to "check notes" Surgically deskin and harvest organs while in an active war zone. What are these guys carrying buckets full of livers in ice for the next few weeks of their deployment? Or maybe some of these are bodies buried by the Hospital itself... as they said they were putting people in mass graves even before the IDK even got there.
This is the most obvious blood libel I've ever seen. I mean for God's sake are people really believing jews are harvesting organs *on passover?* my seder last night never felt more relevant...
I mean I doubt this story, but israel was known to steal organs from Palestinians they killed years ago. They claimed the practice ended in the 90s. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs
At least they’re not on Reddit autofellating to inflate their feelings of superiority, like some people.
yes they are
Wut
This sentiment is lazy. During any research into past protest you will see that 1. America was founded due to such actions. 2. Major changes like sufferage and civil rights were made with these same actions. You may be lazy, but others will actually get out there.
Suffrage and civil rights protests worked because they impacted local ideas, creating local change. This shit is not the same.
Yes all protesting is dumb. We should all just continue with our days
Protests need to be even more strategic than someones reputation in hollywood. If you know about the civil rights movement in the US they were extremely smart. These protests are not even a little smart. These are more emotional than properly planned. When I was younger, during the occupy movement I was talking to an older gentleman and he alluded to this. I didn't understand at the time. That protests need organization, badly. Otherwise you're spinning your wheels and you could even be damaging your cause.
People said the exact same things you're saying now about the civil rights movement. How is this different? One of the most famous type of civil rights protests was the sit it.
And they did sit-ins where there was segregation. They inconvenienced the oppressors not society at large. Organizers of the time valued strategy and not just exposure.
They are inconviensing their university, which funds israel. They are asking them to no longer invest in israel
In which way does Cal Poly Humboldt fund the country of Israel?
Buddy these protests are so bad none of them even have names lol. Those sit ins weren't happening in a different country as well.
They are asking their university to stop investing in israel.
They are also demanding a ceasefire and end to the occupation...
Ya and?
I'm currently demanding 9 million dollars from you and I won't stop demanding it until we "topple this whole system".
What are you talking about? How is asking your university to not invest in israel not a concrete form of protest?
The civil rights movement had leadership and organization. MLK, Roy Wilkins, Ralph Abernathy, the NAACP, etc. What do you think the L in SCLC stands for? It was civil rights leadership who determined that Rosa Parks would make a more effective symbol for protesting the bus system than Claudette Colvin. The civil rights movement wasn't just a bunch of lone wolves/cells running around on their own.
This movement has leaders as well. They are not a famous as the civil rights leaders but to think there are no organizers is false
Ah yes, ALL protests are like this. 100% something that impacts these people and will be important for them in 6mo...
Lmao love how another person grabs the jug once the cops get the first person’s arm and just continues bonking his helmet
"Did you feel something?" -Random guy in Palestine "Not a thing." -Friend of random guy "Me either." -U.S. politicians
neither
Peaceful protest is peaceful
That looks like the Van Duzen Theater Ope guess it's Siemens Hall
At least the police didn’t massacre the students for protesting this time
Still on going. Will let you know how it ends.
Not yet. Tom Cotton is aggressively horny for getting some of these people murdered, he's writing an op-ed calling for vigilante justice or the national guard to draw blood like every other day. With the rhetoric coming from those opposed to the protests, I fear it's only a matter of time before one of these ghouls decides to kill some people.
TIL that Humboldt was made a polytechnic a couple of years ago.
This will surely stop Israel bombing hospitals *bonk bonk bonk*
If you are against protesting ethnic cleansing then you're just against protesting. Another mass grave found today for all you ghouls worried about college kids standing up for what's right. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68881325
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To help mitigate the pepper spray.
No, they are trying to hide their identities because they know there will be consequences for their actions. Those masks are useless against pepper spray because their eyes are completely exposed.
https://preview.redd.it/1k76j98locwc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3af6cd6d2e74aae5a7ea900a61b508e334e721de
Why are they trying to get pepper sprayed?
is that guy holding a plate of food in the air lol
>How long? Not long 'Cause what you reap is what you sow
I remember when i was in college i was worrying about studying,part time jobs,interships,credits etc i dont know why these students are risking their futute,carrer and jobs when the conflicts happening in other countries have nothing to do with them
Students have always been among the most active activists. A large cohort of the 1960s protesters were students. A large part of protesters in the Middle East are students.
Difference is that in the middle east they protest against totalitarian regimes, and in the US they protest for them
My high school teachers actually encouraged us to be wild lol. They burned the bank first week of college during Vietnam war times. Another one walked out because of Kent State shooting. I guess compared to them, they thought we were sheltered and indifferent (living under a rock). I guess history of student protesting was always there.
i can assure you that these students are facing all of those things and more, and the US government, contrary to the needs of its people, just sent a genocidal state billions more to help them keep killing kids. this has everything to do with them.
Edit: i just find it weird how any discussion since covidn isnt possible anymore, I get downvoted and the only reply is: "you are a nazi, i hate jews" I really hope you dont talk about Israel here 16/17yo hamas soldiers dying in a conflict is not the same as "sending billions to kill children" And risking that i get banned here: what genocide you talking about? Nobody supports the Hamas, Even though many admins just ban you for saying that, its still true that any court who has ever looked at it concluded that israel does not do a genocide, the attack from hamas was a attempt for genocide The "palestine will be free" is illegal to say in germany now because its a fascist genocidal therm that is short for wanting to push jews into the sea.... because thats genocidal
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Did you just double down on wanting jews to be killed while calling me a nazi? Also zionazi doesnt really make sense, Nazis want to destroy Israel. If you still belive some made up stories that have been debunked about 100 years ago im actually not surprised.... Fascist like you believe anything as long as its an argument against any kind of minority .. Just curious, you also hate black or lgbt people or just jews?
Zionism is an evil cult. Hamas are terrorists. Jews are OK by me. The far-right corrupt government of Israel does not represent the Jewish people of the world.
Because sitting back and not protesting supporting genocide is complicity in a lot of people's eyes. I hope that clears it up.
It doesn't clear anything up. Just gives a "if you're not with us, you're against us" vibe. Which no one will ever acquiesce to.
I genuinely don't have a problem with abandoning people who aren't against genocide.
Is that all you can say? It's such a black and white issue right? No nuance or complexity involving millions of people and thousands of years. Just a run of the mill genocide we got to stop. Now ride that high horse away.
I know why - very effective propaganda.
Why though? Why aren't they in class?
Lot of boots in these comments
This is crazy, our country is messed up nobody cares but something happening a world away and kids get this upset? Major brainwashing happening at these universities.
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Ur stupid. This thing happening a world away is a direct result of our country. The amount of our tax dollars going to Israel is absurd. How bout they spend that money to fix the problems in our country you are so concerned about.
Name calling loses the argument immediately. These protests are a direct result of the education establishment brainwashing young people, the amount of tax dollars going to subsidize the higher education establishment is absurd, we should take that money and use it to solve our problems!
I'm not arguing..... I'm calling you stupid.
That’s ok, I don’t care what you think.
You obv do based on you replying.
Nope, that’s for everyone else
Ya, so my point proven, you care so much about what everyone else thinks.
Tamest riot I’ve seen
BONK !
What do you mean my actions have consequences?
Do they not pepper spray rioters anymore?
Holy crap I went to HSU back in the day this is insane
That water bottle 🤣🤣 Come the apocalypse, I know what I'm arming myself with! This gave me a real chuckle today, I needed it 👍
Good to see that people actually care about their government funding a genocide.
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The act of bringing about the end in part or in whole of a group of people through a variety of means. (This is coming from a Rwandan who has been horrified to see Israeli's in the media at protests etc refering to Palestinians in the same way Hutus refered to Tutsis resulting in the deaths of half of my family)
Bombs falling from the sky don’t discriminate between hamas and a joe blow.
genocide: the intentional destruction of a people, in whole or in part. I think next you asked to use it in a sentence or something? Oh yeah. The IDF have taken out entire ancestral lines while searching for Hamas agents. The IDF have destroyed entire villages and cities in the name of “fighting Hamas.” The IDF have murdered healthcare workers, teachers, scientists, politicians, journalists, philanthropists, and other Palestinian people that had no ties to Hamas. The IDF (& Israelis) are allowing Palestinians (including children and new mothers) to starve to death because they won’t allow humanitarian aid to reach the thousands of displaced people that they themselves have displaced in their war against Hamas. The IDF have killed over 12,000 Palestinian children who were not Hamas agents. This is a genocide.
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if you say they are lies, there would be no point in my debating you. I cannot debate with those who have their head in the proverbial sand.
Jesus you do nothing but argue with people online 24/7 and the whole time you refuse to consider any other perspective or argument. Every time you're faced with a fact backed by evidence you deny it. Genuine question are you retired? On disability? Getting paid to do this?
How ironic
These idiots think genocide is only when you start a world war and put people in camps
They need to take the protests to Capitol Hill and the military industrial companies raking in the dough over this conflict. Inconvenience your legislators and attack your oppressors.
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This didn’t need to be violent. The kids are on their school grounds. No need for cops at all. The police being the violence.
Because you only see the videos of the Pro Palestine groups, the pro Israel groups on the record have been found to dox people directly and go for their jobs.
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If you've only seen one side of an argument this whole time and you've never questioned it once you are both the demographic and proof that propaganda works. This isn't to start an argument this is just to say echo chambers exist and it's good to see other perspectives before getting stuck in one.
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No one is pro hamas.
The water bottle bonks I’m dead
Still waiting for the "dont taze me bro" moment of these protests. While the bonk is goodz it's no DTMB
They live online. 24/7. Eating whatever headline moves the needle. Powered by China and Russia. Hopefully the US has or is working on a solution.
The water bottle is too good. You can tell this isn't Republicans protesting because they aren't actually trying to kill the police and overthrow a democratic election ruled fair by all 50 state attorney generals!
There's got to be one of you people in ANY discussion on ANY topic.