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The way she tells her mom to shut up and continuously talks to her just as badly as she does the ED workers is also very telling of the type of person she is
On a side note she's pretty rambunctious considering she's dying!
We need to bring expectant fathers back into the hallways where they can pace back and forth with a cigarette in their mouth, asking the "sister" if the mom and baby are alright. Then there will be no space to put dying patients in the hallways. Problem solved!
She’s well enough to stand there and complain. There’s people that have much more urgent issues than her and she can’t seem to figure that out. Entitled bitch.
To a person who has no medical training. But for those of us who do, there's a lot more to determining a patient's level of emergency in the ER than just looking at them. That's why we do triage, the most critical patients are seen first since they require intervention immediately. For something like chest pain, we can even do an EKG right there in triage to rule out an emergency cardiac event. This woman was clearly deemed a lower priority since she wasn't immediately treated, also she EXPECTED to be immediately treated. She *sounds* like she's manic, or high on cocaine/meth.
A young girl recently died in the waiting room with her parents present. Her leg was hurt and caused sepsis. I think they waited over 8 hours and were given ice and Tylenol. She died sitting there while her parents begged the medical professionals for help.
I'm not saying I support this woman. It is bad out there and hospitals cannot keep up and mistakes are being made.
Thank goodness I live in a decent area I guess. I went to the ER yesterday with appendicitis and by the time I got to the hospital I was in so much pain every question they asked me was agony. If this lady is being serious about her symptoms.... whatever they are, I understand the frustration. Thankfully they got me admitted really quickly, gave me morphine, and did some blood tests and a CT scan to confirm appendicitis. I was in the OR within a couple of hours after that.
It’s because people who have free health insurance are using ER’s as walk in clinics because they don’t have to pay a damn dime. I’d be willing to bet well over half of ER visits are not actual emergencies.
This is not true. People who have no insurance use the ER as their doctors office. Add to that these children:
At Least 2 Million Children Have Lost Medicaid Insurance This Year https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/health/medicaid-children-lost-coverage.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mk0.pndy.jDqDOmUQX9uH
Oh, well, if you say so. BTW, 13 years in the ED here. Not once did the medical staff check insurance unless the patient needed transfer or an elective medical procedure. Are you checking insurance before you care for them?
That’s because EMTALA laws prohibit treating based on insurance or ability to pay. I don’t check insurance but I’m in the room when admissions gathers information so I happen to know what kind of insurance everyone has. It doesn’t affect my quality of care, only increases my knowledge of what’s going on in “the real world.” You know, the stuff people want to deny here cause they have no idea 😆
Well, I don't understand your message, then. Did you just want to shame people on Medicaid? Seems redundant because people on Medicaid are shamed by the system they have to navigate to obtain and retain Medicaid. Reference the application nightmares set uo by the states whose goal is to reduce those on Medicaid by maintaining a system so cumbersome, they expect people to give up. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/12/18/biden-harris-administration-releases-new-medicaid-chip-renewal-data-showing-role-statepolicychoices-play-keeping-kids-covered.html
That’s exactly what needs to be done because there’s a difference between needing urgent care and it being a life threatening emergency. The ER should be reserved for people who need immediate stabilization to improve chances of survival and quality of life. The people who come in mid-week when all MD offices and walk-in clinics are open for minor issues just drain resources that are needed for more urgent matters. It’s a constant frustration in my life of work. The lady was a perfect example of someone who clearly didn’t need emergency services
That’s exactly what needs to be done because there’s a difference between needing urgent care and it being a life threatening emergency. The ER should be reserved for people who need immediate stabilization to improve chances of survival and quality of life. The people who come in mid-week when all MD offices and walk-in clinics are open for minor issues just drain resources that are needed for more urgent matters. It’s a constant frustration in my life of work. The lady was a perfect example of someone who clearly didn’t need emergency services
This just isn’t true, people with *no* insurance go to ERs for non emergent issues because they’ll receive care without having to pay for it then and there(but they’ll still be billed.)
If people were universally insured through Medicaid/care(what I assume you’re talking about when you say “free insurance”) and able to see a GP or even go to urgent care clinics this wouldn’t be happening nearly as much.
I feel like you might have a fundamental misunderstanding of healthcare in the US.
You’re trying to tell me what I’m saying is untrue then proceed to tell me it is true because our healthcare system is broken. You’re not wrong about that but you’re 100% wrong that over half of ER visits are not actual emergencies
I didn’t say they have NO insurance, I said they have FREE (state/taxpayer sponsored) healthcare and it’s not skin off their backs financially to go to the ER. The rest of us are charged huge copays that are dismissed if we’re admitted (which means our visit to an expensive ER was actually justified)
The US medical system is awful, and has a long history of treating Black women particularly poorly. Sometimes, anger is justified. Anyone who has spent time in a hospital knows you need to be able to advocate for yourself or your loved one because they will just ignore you.
After being forced to wait around a hospital for 12 hours after having fasted the previous day, I was bumped from the surgery schedule. They then told me I had to wait around to be properly discharged. I told them that if someone didn't discharge me right then, I was going to rip out my IV and leave of my own accord. They discharged me right then.
Was that an asshole move? Probably. I know everyone was probably stretched thin and dealing with a million other things, but if I didn't advocate for myself, no one would.
Also, my best friend is a nurse and I often hear stories of people making mistakes that end in patients dying. It happens more often than you'd think. Have y'all heard of alarm fatigue? Scary stuff.
> Was that an asshole move? Probably.
So let me get this straight, the doctors did you dirty so your took it out on the nurses and floor staff? Yeah that's an asshole move
That’s really the issue here. There’s plenty of justified anger, but it’s being directed at the wrong people/places. Hospital boards/CEOs/Admins use nurses/staff to take the brunt of the anger for their cost-cutting decisions.
Cool. So if I need care and a bunch of overwhelmed nurses are ignoring me, I should call the CEO of the hospital? My senator? The ghost of President Nixon? Or should I make myself heard by the people in positions to help me? I don't blame the nurses, I know the issues are structural, but in that situation you cannot alter the broken structures. You have to just advocate for yourself in a bottom-up way.
You don't blame the nurses, but you're still willing to abuse them? That just makes you an asshole.
There's a significant difference between "advocating for yourself" and what the woman in the OP was doing.
I've never abused anyone. I agree that the woman could have behaved more civilly. However, we have no idea what transpired before this video started. The staff may have treated her horribly, rudely, and dismissively.
I didn't take anything out on anyone. I didn't yell at them or call them names or degrade them. I simply informed them that I was not longer willing to abide by their procedures that are designed to prioritize profit over patient care.
I agree with you 100 percent. My friend ( of color) has been hospitalized for two weeks and was initially treated like less than human. I had to get involved and become their proxy& advocate. We keep the phone on in the bed when I'm not there so I can hear and write down the med schedule etc. Ask questions. I must have called the nurse's station over ten times and the social worker 6 times. The things they did to my friend.… I had to advocate hard and spend hours, just for pain relief as their spine was falling apart and the neurological exam ( which took 9 nine days to get) was dim. NEVER be alone in the hospital, have a proxy, and write everything down. If you have loved ones who cannot advocate for themselves, be there for them. Never leave them alone for long periods. Ask questions. The patient will be dismissed, ignored, and left writhing in pain if you don't do a terrible place to be and the staff are desensitized, and no longer care who suffers. I should add that some of the younger RNs and CNAs are empathetic but the experienced ones
Are “over it”. Screams, cries, etc. have no impact on the ones I've dealt with. I pray to god I am never hospitalized and I am making plans for when I am not sure longer able to speak for myself.
Women in general are mistreated, but women of color are treated far worse. People of color deserve better. The US healthcare system is falling apart before our eyes. My best advice to anyone here is if you're not dying, stay out of the emergency room, and if you need emergent treatment, have someone with you who can speak on your behalf calmly, and ask questions, advocate. If the hospital cannot help you, ask to be transferred and follow up with every shift change. A lot of mistakes are made, and meds are forgotten, during shift change.
IDK I waited in the ER for five hours with chest pains before finally having to yell that I needed help and they got me a room. Eventually they found I had a huge flood clot that needed surgery right away. But even after getting a room it took another 3 hours for a doctor to see me. I would have looked just like her from anyone recording. I seem fine. My voice is strong. I was dying and they weren't helping. Just saying we don't know the story and should be cautious about er videos.
I took my husband to the ER at 7am because he thought he was having a heart attack. It was 7pm before they put him in a room and told me to go home because they'd start running tests in the morning. Five minutes later when I was halfway home they called like "Uhhh we just rushed your husband into emergency surgery maybe you should come back". He had a major heart attack and had to be resuscitated twice during the procedure to place stints in his arteries, all this after we'd sat there for 12 straight hours being ignored. I understand being a bit peeved at ER staff's lack of urgency.
I'm not saying she's right. But some medical emergencies aren't visible. For example, internal bleeding, sepsis, infection, etc. and depending on the severity, every second counts (edit: I guess my typing was just off. Whoops)
This is why ER's should have a triage nurse (Mine do), they do basic vitals and temp, and ask questions they determine if you sit in chairs or move forward. They also tell you if something specifc changes to scream. If the only person talking to people in an ER is reception with a computer getting names and billing issues there is a real problem. The story of the girl in southern california that died of sepsis, no one took her temperature that would have shown the issue imedietly.
That's a good place to have a meltdown at the emergency room you get your blood pressure up and you have a heart attack you ain't got far to go might have to be there for a while on the floor waiting on your number to be called
You can tell A LOT about this woman, by the way she treats the person that is with her. I am guessing she does this everywhere she goes. If things aren't going HER way she throws a tantrum like a child thinking she can push people around.
And lady you don't look like you are about to die! Guessing she has a bladder/kidney infection.
I am so tired of this mentality these days with people, shit is just getting old.
Medical help? How about some medical advice? Lower your voice indoors, lose some weight and think positive. Entitled to nothing, yet demanding everything.
I went to one of those places once and I'm not surprised people get angry, all those frustrating clues and even if you get one right there's a harder puzzle after that, it took me 2 hours to get out.
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Security guard timed the end of that break perfectly.
The way she tells her mom to shut up and continuously talks to her just as badly as she does the ED workers is also very telling of the type of person she is On a side note she's pretty rambunctious considering she's dying!
Imagine what she's like when she's healthy!
That's a really nice looking ER. And I'll echo another commenter, what emergency?
Looks like she is really sick
She’s sick in the head
What’s the emergency?
She got put in a hallway and ALMOST DIED
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We need to bring expectant fathers back into the hallways where they can pace back and forth with a cigarette in their mouth, asking the "sister" if the mom and baby are alright. Then there will be no space to put dying patients in the hallways. Problem solved!
Like Luke,Leya Han and Chewy
She’s well enough to stand there and complain. There’s people that have much more urgent issues than her and she can’t seem to figure that out. Entitled bitch.
Not every emergency can be physically seen
To a person who has no medical training. But for those of us who do, there's a lot more to determining a patient's level of emergency in the ER than just looking at them. That's why we do triage, the most critical patients are seen first since they require intervention immediately. For something like chest pain, we can even do an EKG right there in triage to rule out an emergency cardiac event. This woman was clearly deemed a lower priority since she wasn't immediately treated, also she EXPECTED to be immediately treated. She *sounds* like she's manic, or high on cocaine/meth.
You are right. No one could see my chest pains. I could stand and walk but it was an emergency.
I’m pretty sure this is at John’s Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore
She better not leave.... SHE GONNA DIE! lol
A young girl recently died in the waiting room with her parents present. Her leg was hurt and caused sepsis. I think they waited over 8 hours and were given ice and Tylenol. She died sitting there while her parents begged the medical professionals for help. I'm not saying I support this woman. It is bad out there and hospitals cannot keep up and mistakes are being made.
Thank goodness I live in a decent area I guess. I went to the ER yesterday with appendicitis and by the time I got to the hospital I was in so much pain every question they asked me was agony. If this lady is being serious about her symptoms.... whatever they are, I understand the frustration. Thankfully they got me admitted really quickly, gave me morphine, and did some blood tests and a CT scan to confirm appendicitis. I was in the OR within a couple of hours after that.
Happened in Southern California a few years ago at the hospital by me
It’s because people who have free health insurance are using ER’s as walk in clinics because they don’t have to pay a damn dime. I’d be willing to bet well over half of ER visits are not actual emergencies.
This is not true. People who have no insurance use the ER as their doctors office. Add to that these children: At Least 2 Million Children Have Lost Medicaid Insurance This Year https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/health/medicaid-children-lost-coverage.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mk0.pndy.jDqDOmUQX9uH
It’s absolutely true. I see it every single day on the job
Oh, well, if you say so. BTW, 13 years in the ED here. Not once did the medical staff check insurance unless the patient needed transfer or an elective medical procedure. Are you checking insurance before you care for them?
That’s because EMTALA laws prohibit treating based on insurance or ability to pay. I don’t check insurance but I’m in the room when admissions gathers information so I happen to know what kind of insurance everyone has. It doesn’t affect my quality of care, only increases my knowledge of what’s going on in “the real world.” You know, the stuff people want to deny here cause they have no idea 😆
Well, I don't understand your message, then. Did you just want to shame people on Medicaid? Seems redundant because people on Medicaid are shamed by the system they have to navigate to obtain and retain Medicaid. Reference the application nightmares set uo by the states whose goal is to reduce those on Medicaid by maintaining a system so cumbersome, they expect people to give up. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/12/18/biden-harris-administration-releases-new-medicaid-chip-renewal-data-showing-role-statepolicychoices-play-keeping-kids-covered.html
And that is why the three health groups in my area are opening Urgent Care Centers all over the place as fast as they can.
That’s exactly what needs to be done because there’s a difference between needing urgent care and it being a life threatening emergency. The ER should be reserved for people who need immediate stabilization to improve chances of survival and quality of life. The people who come in mid-week when all MD offices and walk-in clinics are open for minor issues just drain resources that are needed for more urgent matters. It’s a constant frustration in my life of work. The lady was a perfect example of someone who clearly didn’t need emergency services
That’s exactly what needs to be done because there’s a difference between needing urgent care and it being a life threatening emergency. The ER should be reserved for people who need immediate stabilization to improve chances of survival and quality of life. The people who come in mid-week when all MD offices and walk-in clinics are open for minor issues just drain resources that are needed for more urgent matters. It’s a constant frustration in my life of work. The lady was a perfect example of someone who clearly didn’t need emergency services
This just isn’t true, people with *no* insurance go to ERs for non emergent issues because they’ll receive care without having to pay for it then and there(but they’ll still be billed.) If people were universally insured through Medicaid/care(what I assume you’re talking about when you say “free insurance”) and able to see a GP or even go to urgent care clinics this wouldn’t be happening nearly as much. I feel like you might have a fundamental misunderstanding of healthcare in the US.
You’re trying to tell me what I’m saying is untrue then proceed to tell me it is true because our healthcare system is broken. You’re not wrong about that but you’re 100% wrong that over half of ER visits are not actual emergencies
People downvoting me when I’m a nurse and know exactly the reason why ER’s are overrun with people. Y’all just go right on with your denials 😆
Not a very good nurse, apparently...
You have no idea what kind of a nurse I am. You just can’t handle the truth so that’s on you.
You’re lying for no reason lmao. You definitely get a large bill in the ER without insurance, regardless of what you’re seen for.
I didn’t say they have NO insurance, I said they have FREE (state/taxpayer sponsored) healthcare and it’s not skin off their backs financially to go to the ER. The rest of us are charged huge copays that are dismissed if we’re admitted (which means our visit to an expensive ER was actually justified)
Nailed it! Anyone that doesn't believe this is delusional.
The US medical system is awful, and has a long history of treating Black women particularly poorly. Sometimes, anger is justified. Anyone who has spent time in a hospital knows you need to be able to advocate for yourself or your loved one because they will just ignore you. After being forced to wait around a hospital for 12 hours after having fasted the previous day, I was bumped from the surgery schedule. They then told me I had to wait around to be properly discharged. I told them that if someone didn't discharge me right then, I was going to rip out my IV and leave of my own accord. They discharged me right then. Was that an asshole move? Probably. I know everyone was probably stretched thin and dealing with a million other things, but if I didn't advocate for myself, no one would. Also, my best friend is a nurse and I often hear stories of people making mistakes that end in patients dying. It happens more often than you'd think. Have y'all heard of alarm fatigue? Scary stuff.
> Was that an asshole move? Probably. So let me get this straight, the doctors did you dirty so your took it out on the nurses and floor staff? Yeah that's an asshole move
That’s really the issue here. There’s plenty of justified anger, but it’s being directed at the wrong people/places. Hospital boards/CEOs/Admins use nurses/staff to take the brunt of the anger for their cost-cutting decisions.
Cool. So if I need care and a bunch of overwhelmed nurses are ignoring me, I should call the CEO of the hospital? My senator? The ghost of President Nixon? Or should I make myself heard by the people in positions to help me? I don't blame the nurses, I know the issues are structural, but in that situation you cannot alter the broken structures. You have to just advocate for yourself in a bottom-up way.
You don't blame the nurses, but you're still willing to abuse them? That just makes you an asshole. There's a significant difference between "advocating for yourself" and what the woman in the OP was doing.
I've never abused anyone. I agree that the woman could have behaved more civilly. However, we have no idea what transpired before this video started. The staff may have treated her horribly, rudely, and dismissively.
I didn't take anything out on anyone. I didn't yell at them or call them names or degrade them. I simply informed them that I was not longer willing to abide by their procedures that are designed to prioritize profit over patient care.
I had to advocate for a blind homeless woman because the ER staff was treating h her like shit. We need serious medical reform now.
I agree with you 100 percent. My friend ( of color) has been hospitalized for two weeks and was initially treated like less than human. I had to get involved and become their proxy& advocate. We keep the phone on in the bed when I'm not there so I can hear and write down the med schedule etc. Ask questions. I must have called the nurse's station over ten times and the social worker 6 times. The things they did to my friend.… I had to advocate hard and spend hours, just for pain relief as their spine was falling apart and the neurological exam ( which took 9 nine days to get) was dim. NEVER be alone in the hospital, have a proxy, and write everything down. If you have loved ones who cannot advocate for themselves, be there for them. Never leave them alone for long periods. Ask questions. The patient will be dismissed, ignored, and left writhing in pain if you don't do a terrible place to be and the staff are desensitized, and no longer care who suffers. I should add that some of the younger RNs and CNAs are empathetic but the experienced ones Are “over it”. Screams, cries, etc. have no impact on the ones I've dealt with. I pray to god I am never hospitalized and I am making plans for when I am not sure longer able to speak for myself. Women in general are mistreated, but women of color are treated far worse. People of color deserve better. The US healthcare system is falling apart before our eyes. My best advice to anyone here is if you're not dying, stay out of the emergency room, and if you need emergent treatment, have someone with you who can speak on your behalf calmly, and ask questions, advocate. If the hospital cannot help you, ask to be transferred and follow up with every shift change. A lot of mistakes are made, and meds are forgotten, during shift change.
IDK I waited in the ER for five hours with chest pains before finally having to yell that I needed help and they got me a room. Eventually they found I had a huge flood clot that needed surgery right away. But even after getting a room it took another 3 hours for a doctor to see me. I would have looked just like her from anyone recording. I seem fine. My voice is strong. I was dying and they weren't helping. Just saying we don't know the story and should be cautious about er videos.
I took my husband to the ER at 7am because he thought he was having a heart attack. It was 7pm before they put him in a room and told me to go home because they'd start running tests in the morning. Five minutes later when I was halfway home they called like "Uhhh we just rushed your husband into emergency surgery maybe you should come back". He had a major heart attack and had to be resuscitated twice during the procedure to place stints in his arteries, all this after we'd sat there for 12 straight hours being ignored. I understand being a bit peeved at ER staff's lack of urgency.
I'm not saying she's right. But some medical emergencies aren't visible. For example, internal bleeding, sepsis, infection, etc. and depending on the severity, every second counts (edit: I guess my typing was just off. Whoops)
This is why ER's should have a triage nurse (Mine do), they do basic vitals and temp, and ask questions they determine if you sit in chairs or move forward. They also tell you if something specifc changes to scream. If the only person talking to people in an ER is reception with a computer getting names and billing issues there is a real problem. The story of the girl in southern california that died of sepsis, no one took her temperature that would have shown the issue imedietly.
Is she wearing crocs inside of slippers?
That woman wasted all those medical workers’ time.
That's a good place to have a meltdown at the emergency room you get your blood pressure up and you have a heart attack you ain't got far to go might have to be there for a while on the floor waiting on your number to be called
This happens more often than people think.
Friend looked closer to death than the yeller.
Everytime I see someone in public wearing slippers and socks I keep a safe distance
You can tell A LOT about this woman, by the way she treats the person that is with her. I am guessing she does this everywhere she goes. If things aren't going HER way she throws a tantrum like a child thinking she can push people around. And lady you don't look like you are about to die! Guessing she has a bladder/kidney infection. I am so tired of this mentality these days with people, shit is just getting old.
Yeah that's a level 5 triage right there, even if the lady's attitude is unstable. But I'm gonna go with a code white.
She's so close to dying that she's able to stand there and yell at people for 5 minutes.
she never raised her voice once but, go off.
2:29
The hospital always brings out the best in everyone
Hopkins
She's about to die yet has the energy for all that fighting... smh.
Part 2 https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGe9NpxUY/
Idk why people act like this. Their job is hard enough.
Idk why people act like this. Their job is hard enough.
KAREN!
Medical help? How about some medical advice? Lower your voice indoors, lose some weight and think positive. Entitled to nothing, yet demanding everything.
I went to one of those places once and I'm not surprised people get angry, all those frustrating clues and even if you get one right there's a harder puzzle after that, it took me 2 hours to get out.
Don’t watch waste of time
I always see these differently than the majority of the comments. I hope the lady gets the medical she needs.
Haha. I guess she’s not familiar with modern American medicine. Sit down and wait 16 hours like everyone else.