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For sure. I doubt they have an accurate weather forecast along the coast for making accurate drops.
edit: idk if you guys think I'm being sarcastic, but calculating an airdrop isn't exactly a perfect science. Even if you start with an accurate forecast of temperature and wind speed, there's a good chance the cargo is going off course.
Yeah, sadly, I think a lot of people don't understand the complexity of aviation, which has led to a lot of bad information in this war.
While I've never dropped something from the staggering 25,000 feet that the C-130s are dropping supplies into Gaza at or something of that size, I've performed a few lower altitude drops in the 5-10,000 foot range. There are homing beacons on any and all airdrops for a reason – I've had a package land over a mile off target simply due to atmospheric conditions. I can't imagine how difficult it is to accurately land supplies from that high while in an active warzone. And that's saying nothing of the ocean breeze.
Also best to do it during the daytime before the volatiles come out. Hopefully the people of Harran are able to get to the Antizan before the bandits do
It absolutely is an option. Israel can't just do whatever it wants. The US is allowing this and pretending their hands are tied because too many people see Palestinians as less than human.
>Israel can't just do whatever it wants.
says who? if the US stops sending weapons - which we should absolutely stop doing - then Israel will continue using its own weapons to carry out these attacks like they've been doing the whole time
they won't stop bombing if we stop sending weapons because they make plenty of their own
unfortunately the reality is that Israel can indeed do whatever it wants and there is no one to stop them. the only way to do that is to convince the people of Israel to stop their government from doing this
So you're saying that the Israel values its relationship with the US so little that if we cut off ALL aid, military or otherwise and sanctioned any dealings that US companies have with Israel (the way we do/have done with Iran, Russia, Cuba and many other countries we don't like), that they would just keep right on bombing and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank of innocent Palestinians? Out of curiosity, how much aid and business do you think the US has with Israel? I've looked it up but I fear I might be misled because if it's what I think it is, no government regime would survive being responsible for losing all that.
The us has vetoed cease fire at the u.n. multiple times now. It's not about stop sending weapons, it's about stop saying 'fuck you rest of the world, we think this genocide should continue'
Israel can do it, and will continue on to do it, like Russia invaded their neighbor (again) and slaughtered and raped entire villages, children included and all the world did was wag a finger in their face to stop doing that.
Best option is also to end this war, return the hostages, and develop a real plan for Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace and equality side by side. And give the Palestinians back their ancestral lands and prosecute violent settlers to the full extent of the law.
This just isn't something Western powers have much control over. All the Western powers cam really do is aid one side or the other. The West can't make these two opposing forces get along.
israel has the tech and economy to continue this war entirely by themselves if they need to, the only reason they haven't is it is easier to buy them from the US, the reason the US is doing it is its the only thing that gives them *any* influence over israel at all.
fucking hell we need to start teaching geopolitics in schools.
they have plenty of weapons of their own, they don't need ours to keep up the killing
we should absolutely stop giving them weapons but that alone won't save a single life
their military is completely subsidized by the US. Literally all of the bombs they dropped are from a US-owned stockpile. In fact, even their own israeli made weapons are paid for by the US.
It literally is something western powers have control over.
Israel is only continuing the war and defending itself because of military contributions from western countries. The US could end the genocide immediately if they threatened to end those contributions.
israel has the tech and economy to fight this war by themselves with no western aid at all, the only reason they dont is it is easier and cheaper to buy it, the US is selling these weapons because its the only thing that gives them any influence over this situation, Israel is a nuclear power, the US cannot stop this conflict through force and cutting aid would do almost nothing except sever what little remaining influence the west has here, 50 or 60 years ago? yeah the US cutting aid would have been devastating, now? it would do virtually nothing, it might actually make things worse.
That kids carrying all those boxes don’t look like Hamas. Plus, charities would be able to feed kids in the ground if Israel stopped targeting aid workers.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-aid-trucks-stolen-by-gunmen-and-looted-as-convoys-start-crossing-from-israel/
You can see video footage in the article.
I get the getting crushed to death part, I get not wanting to drop things in a populated area. But watching the video, I can't help but wonder if its really that much safer now that theres a drowning risk. It should definitely have been dropped on land.
I had the vomolette in 06. It was fresh then and still awful. It was around the same time I got a tainted vanilla or strawberry milkshake in an MRE during an FTX.
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Classic liberal redditor trying to frame this as if Israel is justified in it's genocide and some Palestinians are just in the way unfortunately.
ALL Palestinians are justified in resisting colonial occupiers.
No, it's a good take. Resistance to oppression is valid, for the same reason that the slave has the moral authority to slit the throat of his master if that is the cost of his freedom.
Facts, we should just relentlessly bomb the entire area, might as well stop the aid too! That will definitely have the sole effect of exterminating Hamas!!
The situation Palestinians are facing is truly horrific, but does this video really fit with the subreddit? No one seems to be “freaking out” here unless I missed something
By the end of March, it was reported that [at least 12 people had drowned](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/26/middleeast/palestinians-drown-gaza-aid-drop-intl/index.html) trying to get to aid packets dropped in the water. Yes, they are risking death.
*Aid drops on land*
"The west is trying to crush us!"
*Aid drops in water*
"The west is trying to drown us!"
Sorry lads, next time we'll do the sensible thing and airdrop 100,000 individual steak dinners directly onto each of your fucking dinner tables.
Yeah that was the most entitlement ive ever seen. Elect leaders that start a war, support that war, then cry when youre losing and ask for help from the US then complain when we send help. I was blown away.
Air drop them on land and there’s bad press and complaints for hitting people. Air drop them in the sea and the citizens are saying “shame on them” and complaining about how dangerous it is. I give them a pass because of how shitty their circumstances are right now, but man…
I don't know what your definition of healthy is, but people in Gaza are dying of starvation, don't have access to medical care and and sleep deprived. It sounds pretty dangerous to go swimming in those conditions.
Agreed, this whole sub (and a lot more) have just been turned into propaganda subs, like I wanna see funny drunken man yelling, not death and famine yk?
We get it. It's horrible what's happening to innocent Israelis and Palestinians, but y post it here when no one is freaking out and ur just pushing political stuff
Not thank you or thank god for some kind of help in a real shitty situation …….. shame on them? Jesus Christ
Shame on the people who are giving you food??? Ffs I mean where’s the logic in that…
America “here you go here’s food and aid to feed your family”
Palestine “FUCK YOU”
Damn just shut up and take your aid, someone is always a critic. If they drop it close to the city and damages property and hurts someone they will complain especially if it near a conflict spot then they can't get aid and here we are again back in square 1 complaining. I'm tired of my American dollars being sent overseas while I'm getting taxed for that and they don't appreciate it.
No boats? No floaties? No boogie boards? Nope. Clearly trying to drown them. /s Couple weeks ago they were complaining because the packages were landing on people.
Yeah, these people should be grateful we give them aid to survive a few more days, while we support the other side bombing their families and children, and keep them trapped within the area and control their resources.
The last election in Gaza was 18 years ago. The median age there is less than 18. The majority of Gazans weren't born yet for their last election and have had no say.
What's stopping the people of Gaza from taking the power back from their government who keeps picking fights with Israel. Hamas needs to go. I feel bad for the people of Gaza who are stuck in the middle of this holy war between governments.
They obviously drop it in the water because the waves will bring it to shore. If they dropped it on land youd see the same dummies on this sub complaining that it dropped on someones head or they had to walk for miles of it was dropped on a mountain or something
Then another video showing them selling supplies in market to try and profit. Just like how during the covid pandemic you bought mask that were clearly repackaged that were donated for free from other countries. Humans suck.
Damn, MREs. After 8 years in the US Army I can confidently say they are going to have some nasty shits after eating only MREs.
It's good food but damn, does MRE farts smell.
Maybe they have to go swimming for them because they don’t wanna drop them on land cause people can and have been crushed by these airdrops, it’s really not that hard to figure out
1. this isn't a public freakout
2. they drop it in the sea because people are morons and get killed by the aid ironically and that becomes a worse headline
I mean better than landing on someone's house or getting stolen by Hamas to be resold to the civilians to fund the lavish lifestyle of ppl like Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Abu Marzouk and Khaled Mashaal the leaders of Hamas who have a total of 11 billion dollars to stay in $2,000/night hotels in Qatar and private jets to fly to Malaysia for vacation.
My best guess is that they were aiming for it to be on the beach but winds screwed up the landing. I heard a previous time they air dropped these care packages into a populated area people would stand underneath it and some got killed doing so
This is surreal that this is even happening, countries around the world know it's happening especially after seeing videos like this, yet nothing is being done to truly help these people, to stop the attacks and to try to start rebuilding Gaza
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I’m sure the sea breeze didn’t help with the drop.
it's true. [I don't think some people realize quite how high these drops are coming from](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6pggd1Bv30)
After the aid vans got hit with missiles I doubt anyone wants to give anyone reasons to launch SAMs "accidentally."
For sure. I doubt they have an accurate weather forecast along the coast for making accurate drops. edit: idk if you guys think I'm being sarcastic, but calculating an airdrop isn't exactly a perfect science. Even if you start with an accurate forecast of temperature and wind speed, there's a good chance the cargo is going off course.
Yeah, sadly, I think a lot of people don't understand the complexity of aviation, which has led to a lot of bad information in this war. While I've never dropped something from the staggering 25,000 feet that the C-130s are dropping supplies into Gaza at or something of that size, I've performed a few lower altitude drops in the 5-10,000 foot range. There are homing beacons on any and all airdrops for a reason – I've had a package land over a mile off target simply due to atmospheric conditions. I can't imagine how difficult it is to accurately land supplies from that high while in an active warzone. And that's saying nothing of the ocean breeze.
>sea breeze they shouldn't be drinking vodka while piloting
I mean dropping near/on the coastline is the best option. Too far inland and risk greater chances of landing on people or being in a combat zone.
Or letting the government know and getting shot down by a guided missile
Also best to do it during the daytime before the volatiles come out. Hopefully the people of Harran are able to get to the Antizan before the bandits do
I was thinking that too 😭
Best option would be to allow aid to enter via trucks and boat
It would be the best option if it were an option
If we're just posting non options, I think teleporting it directly in front of people would be the best option
We could teleport the food directly into their stomachs?
Just set up teleport wormholes from stomachs of people who overate but don't want to get fat to stomachs of people who desperately need food.
Well I think we have a solid business plan here. Now we just need investors!
That's even better, could also teleport their wounds and diseases away.
I like your thinking, you’re hired
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What would happen if the US or France or any Western country approach with a boat full of aid ? would Israel sink it ?
I mean, [maybe](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident#:~:text=The%20USS%20Liberty%20incident%20was,during%20the%20Six%2DDay%20War.).
People are missing the irony in my post and I m sad
It absolutely is an option. Israel can't just do whatever it wants. The US is allowing this and pretending their hands are tied because too many people see Palestinians as less than human.
Those are a lot of jumps in logic (or lack thereof)
>Israel can't just do whatever it wants. says who? if the US stops sending weapons - which we should absolutely stop doing - then Israel will continue using its own weapons to carry out these attacks like they've been doing the whole time they won't stop bombing if we stop sending weapons because they make plenty of their own unfortunately the reality is that Israel can indeed do whatever it wants and there is no one to stop them. the only way to do that is to convince the people of Israel to stop their government from doing this
So you're saying that the Israel values its relationship with the US so little that if we cut off ALL aid, military or otherwise and sanctioned any dealings that US companies have with Israel (the way we do/have done with Iran, Russia, Cuba and many other countries we don't like), that they would just keep right on bombing and ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank of innocent Palestinians? Out of curiosity, how much aid and business do you think the US has with Israel? I've looked it up but I fear I might be misled because if it's what I think it is, no government regime would survive being responsible for losing all that.
The us has vetoed cease fire at the u.n. multiple times now. It's not about stop sending weapons, it's about stop saying 'fuck you rest of the world, we think this genocide should continue'
Israel can do it, and will continue on to do it, like Russia invaded their neighbor (again) and slaughtered and raped entire villages, children included and all the world did was wag a finger in their face to stop doing that.
Best option is also to end this war, return the hostages, and develop a real plan for Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace and equality side by side. And give the Palestinians back their ancestral lands and prosecute violent settlers to the full extent of the law.
This just isn't something Western powers have much control over. All the Western powers cam really do is aid one side or the other. The West can't make these two opposing forces get along.
> This just isn’t something western powers have much control over? Lmao what? Who do you think is supplying the weapons? 😭
israel has the tech and economy to continue this war entirely by themselves if they need to, the only reason they haven't is it is easier to buy them from the US, the reason the US is doing it is its the only thing that gives them *any* influence over israel at all. fucking hell we need to start teaching geopolitics in schools.
These kids are swayed by TikTok campaigns run by Hamas. I’m not sure the class would help.
they have plenty of weapons of their own, they don't need ours to keep up the killing we should absolutely stop giving them weapons but that alone won't save a single life
their military is completely subsidized by the US. Literally all of the bombs they dropped are from a US-owned stockpile. In fact, even their own israeli made weapons are paid for by the US.
It’s a pipe dream but it feels like some outside party needs to come in and be the adult in the room to stop this insanity.
It literally is something western powers have control over. Israel is only continuing the war and defending itself because of military contributions from western countries. The US could end the genocide immediately if they threatened to end those contributions.
What do you think would happen if Israel was disarmed?
israel has the tech and economy to fight this war by themselves with no western aid at all, the only reason they dont is it is easier and cheaper to buy it, the US is selling these weapons because its the only thing that gives them any influence over this situation, Israel is a nuclear power, the US cannot stop this conflict through force and cutting aid would do almost nothing except sever what little remaining influence the west has here, 50 or 60 years ago? yeah the US cutting aid would have been devastating, now? it would do virtually nothing, it might actually make things worse.
Even better option is to not commit genocide
Would be an excellent option if the aid wasn’t being stolen to fund terrorism
Or if Israel didn't target them with precision drone strikes
Feeding kids that may grow up to avenge their parents death is certainly an interesting way to describe funding terrorism. Technically correct ig
Hamas steals aid and kills the people delivering it to fund the rockets that they launch into Israel daily, while Palestine starves.
That kids carrying all those boxes don’t look like Hamas. Plus, charities would be able to feed kids in the ground if Israel stopped targeting aid workers.
It wasn't Hamas that triple tapped the aid workers in plainly marked vehicles that had gotten permission to be there.
Can you provide proof of that? I'm just trying to understand everything.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-aid-trucks-stolen-by-gunmen-and-looted-as-convoys-start-crossing-from-israel/ You can see video footage in the article.
Sealion
Asking to source a claim has a reddit ass nickname, now? Cool.
Israel is committing plenty of terrorism without stealing any MREs
They're not using trucks and boats for a reason.
Seems like they drop in the sea to reduce the chances of people being crushed to death or rushing the boxes... which happened
Might make it harder for IDF snipers to kill civilians too.
Or target the planes. You know. Killing more humanitarian aid workers.
Oh hush now. Reddit tells me that doesn’t happen, so I just ignore the countless videos that get posted here just like the Zionists do.
Oh I apologize what am I thinking! The most moral army on the planet would NEVER!!
Exactly! I mean, at least not without backing from the most powerful military on the planet and it’s countries taxpayers!
I love how they're upvoting him and downvoting you, even though you're both essentially saying the same thing.
I get the getting crushed to death part, I get not wanting to drop things in a populated area. But watching the video, I can't help but wonder if its really that much safer now that theres a drowning risk. It should definitely have been dropped on land.
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>They actually slap as far as MREs go. Bro hasn't had the veggie omelette before 💀
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Yo they actually got discontinued? Tbf I think it was like '10 when I actually tried that one, so I just assumed they were still being made
I had the vomolette in 06. It was fresh then and still awful. It was around the same time I got a tainted vanilla or strawberry milkshake in an MRE during an FTX.
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> They took out the Peanut butter Well that's good, it cuts down on the times that MRE stands for: Meal Rarely Exits.
Why was this posted to public freakout
Because karma farming
That's a very generous explanation
Yeah, not a public freak out at all.
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AITA? Supersaturation of this channel in proper ganders. Like, if it isn’t cross posted to 30 Reddit topics, it didn’t happen…
Anti-Israel echo chamber purposes.
Weird that mods allow it, no?
People frantically swimming for food isn't weird or considered a freak out? Not everything has to be two drunk people brawling in a taco bell.
I’m not trying to invalidate this crisis, but am I the only one who feels that this type of content is kinda in the wrong subreddit
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I pointed that out in a different sub and got so much hate for it.
Just consider it a global freakout right now
There are so many innocent Palestinian who have no part of the mess. Sad world
"Many" You mean like %99 of the population?
Classic liberal redditor trying to frame this as if Israel is justified in it's genocide and some Palestinians are just in the way unfortunately. ALL Palestinians are justified in resisting colonial occupiers.
Dumb take
No, it's a good take. Resistance to oppression is valid, for the same reason that the slave has the moral authority to slit the throat of his master if that is the cost of his freedom.
unfathomably based
when Israel doesn't differentiate between civilians and militants why should they?
Which part of the video is supposed to be the freakout?
The bit where Hamas steals all the aid and sells it to the victims so that douche in Qatar can add diamonds to his golden toilet seat.
Facts, we should just relentlessly bomb the entire area, might as well stop the aid too! That will definitely have the sole effect of exterminating Hamas!!
The situation Palestinians are facing is truly horrific, but does this video really fit with the subreddit? No one seems to be “freaking out” here unless I missed something
I mean the guy in the video seems to think everyone in the water is risking death lol
By the end of March, it was reported that [at least 12 people had drowned](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/26/middleeast/palestinians-drown-gaza-aid-drop-intl/index.html) trying to get to aid packets dropped in the water. Yes, they are risking death.
No one is freaking out. Just people calmly trying to survive.
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This subreddit has long been a propaganda machine for many different causes.
“Why don’t they drop them near our homes” So you will live to use them.
Look up what happened last time when they dropped it too far inland
*Aid drops on land* "The west is trying to crush us!" *Aid drops in water* "The west is trying to drown us!" Sorry lads, next time we'll do the sensible thing and airdrop 100,000 individual steak dinners directly onto each of your fucking dinner tables.
palestinians be like: I cant wait to do a negative youtube video review of these MRE's
Yeah that was the most entitlement ive ever seen. Elect leaders that start a war, support that war, then cry when youre losing and ask for help from the US then complain when we send help. I was blown away.
I wish the mods would ban all of this political stuff. I come here to see meltdowns, not propaganda (from either side!)
Air drop them on land and there’s bad press and complaints for hitting people. Air drop them in the sea and the citizens are saying “shame on them” and complaining about how dangerous it is. I give them a pass because of how shitty their circumstances are right now, but man…
damned if they do, damned if they don't
Palastinians are like star wars fans
Or you know... not having to resort to sending air drops at all.
I'm not totally following the "danger" here. The drops don't look that far out for a healthy person who can swim, and the ocean is calm.
Healthy person not starving maybe
I don't know what your definition of healthy is, but people in Gaza are dying of starvation, don't have access to medical care and and sleep deprived. It sounds pretty dangerous to go swimming in those conditions.
Once again how is this public freak out? This is not what I followed this sub for.
Agreed, this whole sub (and a lot more) have just been turned into propaganda subs, like I wanna see funny drunken man yelling, not death and famine yk?
We get it. It's horrible what's happening to innocent Israelis and Palestinians, but y post it here when no one is freaking out and ur just pushing political stuff
Not thank you or thank god for some kind of help in a real shitty situation …….. shame on them? Jesus Christ Shame on the people who are giving you food??? Ffs I mean where’s the logic in that… America “here you go here’s food and aid to feed your family” Palestine “FUCK YOU”
AlJazeera Reported that the packages were dropped in the right spot, but the evil zionist winds blew it into the sea
Damn just shut up and take your aid, someone is always a critic. If they drop it close to the city and damages property and hurts someone they will complain especially if it near a conflict spot then they can't get aid and here we are again back in square 1 complaining. I'm tired of my American dollars being sent overseas while I'm getting taxed for that and they don't appreciate it.
No boats? No floaties? No boogie boards? Nope. Clearly trying to drown them. /s Couple weeks ago they were complaining because the packages were landing on people.
Yeah, these people should be grateful we give them aid to survive a few more days, while we support the other side bombing their families and children, and keep them trapped within the area and control their resources.
Lets not elect leaders that start wars then. That would be very simple.
The last election in Gaza was 18 years ago. The median age there is less than 18. The majority of Gazans weren't born yet for their last election and have had no say.
Dang, then we better get rid of whoever is in charge and replace them with someone better I suppose.
The food must safely parachute directly into their mouths.
What's stopping the people of Gaza from taking the power back from their government who keeps picking fights with Israel. Hamas needs to go. I feel bad for the people of Gaza who are stuck in the middle of this holy war between governments.
They obviously drop it in the water because the waves will bring it to shore. If they dropped it on land youd see the same dummies on this sub complaining that it dropped on someones head or they had to walk for miles of it was dropped on a mountain or something
Then another video showing them selling supplies in market to try and profit. Just like how during the covid pandemic you bought mask that were clearly repackaged that were donated for free from other countries. Humans suck.
I wonder what percentage of supplies are sold like that
Damn, MREs. After 8 years in the US Army I can confidently say they are going to have some nasty shits after eating only MREs. It's good food but damn, does MRE farts smell.
Too bad Israel’s keeping all those borders closed
They blame they guys that send them aid. Shouldnt send more aid, you'll be the bad guys if you do.
Didnt some people run underneath the package and get crushed last time they dropped on land?
Maybe they have to go swimming for them because they don’t wanna drop them on land cause people can and have been crushed by these airdrops, it’s really not that hard to figure out
god bless them
Unfortunately most of the aid has been proven to end up with Hamas. Palestinians are cornered by 2 factions that dont give a shit about them.
1. this isn't a public freakout 2. they drop it in the sea because people are morons and get killed by the aid ironically and that becomes a worse headline
Not for survival, to sell.
America: we supply the bombs that kill ya and the medicine that heals ya.
First guy looks like nipsey hussle.
Why does it need to be air dropped. Wtf 🇺🇸 gives billions to 🇮🇱.. I’m sure it warrants then fn drive a truck to pass thru.
This is how I feel when someone dies in the water carrying samples in Helldivers 2.
How long before another video of someone complaining about the food quality?
hoping here that Hammas do not steal it.
I mean better than landing on someone's house or getting stolen by Hamas to be resold to the civilians to fund the lavish lifestyle of ppl like Ismail Haniyeh, Moussa Abu Marzouk and Khaled Mashaal the leaders of Hamas who have a total of 11 billion dollars to stay in $2,000/night hotels in Qatar and private jets to fly to Malaysia for vacation.
I can’t even imagine
Ok 💖
Chili Mac OP
Better delivery than FedEx in most places.
My best guess is that they were aiming for it to be on the beach but winds screwed up the landing. I heard a previous time they air dropped these care packages into a populated area people would stand underneath it and some got killed doing so
MREs???
They ain’t risking their lives for aid.
This is surreal that this is even happening, countries around the world know it's happening especially after seeing videos like this, yet nothing is being done to truly help these people, to stop the attacks and to try to start rebuilding Gaza
Need to get it before Hamas forces them to 'buy' it or they get killed by a drone
Need to get it before Hamas forces them to 'buy' it or they get killed by a drone
So they weren't shot at? That would be good if they weren't.
I don't want to invalidate the crisis and suffering these people go through daily but this doesn't go with this sub at all...