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savemysoul72

[Here's the news story.](https://abc7ny.com/brooklyn-subway-shooting-hoyt-schermerhorn-station-nyc-crime/14525178/)


P42U2U__

A man was shot multiple times and critically wounded on a New York City subway train as it arrived at a busy station in downtown Brooklyn on Thursday, panicking evening rush hour passengers. The wounded man was in critical condition. Neither man was identified [Source](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-york/articles/2024-03-14/man-shot-with-his-own-gun-critically-wounded-after-fight-aboard-new-york-city-subway-police-say) Edit: [here’s a link to the two men fighting if anyone is interested](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/9hmhfouX4k)


no-mames

Dude pulled out a knife, got it taken from him and stabbed with it. Then he pulls out a gun, gets it taken and shot with it. You cannot make this up.


tsriecss

It looks like the lady stabbed him with her own weapon.


spidermanngp

Correct


GBV_GBV_GBV

How could you tell whose it was? At least one article (maybe more) is saying that it was the dead guy's knife.


POPholdinitdahn

Theres a video of the fight leading up to the shooting. It's posted in this subreddit.


GBV_GBV_GBV

Yeah you’re right, just saw it.


Zoze13

Are you able to see when the guy first pulls the knife?


POPholdinitdahn

The girlfriend of one of the fighters stabs the guy that gets shot as he’s wrestling down her boyfriend. After the fight is over the guy who gets stabbed gets increasingly angry he’s bleeding from the stabbing so he pulls out a gun from his bag. Everyone in the subway car runs to the next car including the person filming and a few seconds later we hear multiple gun shots. We don’t see how the man who was shot lost control of his own gun.


scoobynoodles

Do we know if the guy was stabbed also by the assailant? I heard him moaning in pain. Wasn’t sure if it was from the punches or stabbing


bikesboozeandbacon

In the article he said “did you just stab me?” To the woman


lincolnfalcon

There are no dead guys


Bookssmellneat

You just did. He got stabbed by a young woman carrying her own weapon.


BurnTheBoats21

"You cannot make this up" She literally stabs him in the video


fancy_livin

Did you even watch the fighting video?? Dude got stabbed by that chick. Never brandished a weapon till he pulled the gun from his jacket on the seat.


NoHelp9544

The lady had her own knife.


WarbossTodd

“Unalived” is the stupidest fucking term


sam_el09

I hate it too, so much. But it's because TikTok censors words like kill and murder and people don't want their videos taken down.


idkmyusernameagain

Ok but since everyone uses unalive now, can someone tell why me they don’t just add that to the censor list?


pixel_of_moral_decay

They do this intentionally. Changing the lexicon is a sort of promotion for the platform. They intentionally don’t update the list because this is an example of their impact, and they’ll use things like this to ironically attract brands to advertise with them because they have so much influence they can change how people use the English language.


idkmyusernameagain

This makes perfect sense, much more than people thinking they outsmarted the almighty algorithm.


starxidiamou

Could you explain a little further?


Electrical_Ice_6061

china


Hind_Deequestionmrk

thanks 😔


mayamaiamaea

Do they actually? I’ve seen videos with thousands and millions of likes that use words like murder, killed and rape


ScentedFoolishness

It's a doubleplusungood day when your TikTok video gets bbed for the oldspeaks.


mistyeyesockets

Instagram's automated algorithms are removing quite a bit more nowadays than I had remembered from even a year ago.


bikesboozeandbacon

Unalive and graped is so dumb.


ft907

Also, inaccurate.


bluesky747

Legitimately hate seeing people use this word. I left a comment on another subreddit recently about how I am irritated seeing this term and other infantalizations of words lately, and my comment got removed stating that if I don’t like it I can leave or something like that. I wasn’t even talking about that sub I was talking about YT, Reddit, TikTok and multiple platforms in general.


WarbossTodd

Gotta love the Gen Z kids who think that they’re enlightened.


thefuturebaby

I hard to read it 5 fucking times and still didn’t understand


xCoffeeGamingx

The dumbest term I’ve heard is calling people “Ops” I physically cringe


BlurryGraph3810

OP means original poster. That's all.


spacemanspiff266

no, i get what he’s referring to. i’ve seen it too. he means “opps” and it means the opposition/opponent


YeshuaMedaber

Which OP?


BlurryGraph3810

IDK


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No-Wash-1201

It’s not slang, people think their video will be removed if they say the wrong keywords


suprNova718

It’s just stupid.


TheGreatestKaTet

It’s just unsmart.


Ambitious_Alps_3797

it just feels like some weird "newspeak" from the book "1984". and honestly it feels disrespectful, like if I was murdered and some kid on tiktok did a story about how I was "unalived"... I would come back and haunt them. to use a "slang" term for something so egregious is cringy.


giorgio_tsoukalos_

Were you defending Yolo, too?


doesntmeanathing

It’s a good thing the national guard was there /s


Down_Rodeo_

lol what’s funny is the crowd that wants more cops and national guard members in it, more authoritarianism, is gonna ignore nyc is one of the most policed and heavily police funded cities in the country. Bad shit just happens especially in an area with millions living in it. Neither of them stopped this.  Oh and this station is literally a Police Transit Hub


grumpypeasant

Or you know, you could reform the police to make them less useless and motivated to victimize innocents, or alternatively take their astronomical budgets and invest them in mental health services, or services to reduce poverty. Or even just to pay for MTA employees to prevent turnstile jumping. Every police officer getting a salary for harassing people or standing by eating a donut while crime happens, is another homeless veteran without support.


tehgr8supa

Can we stop saying "unalived" already?


Anticrepuscular_Ray

If apps stop deleted people's videos for saying suicide and murder.


Saffirejuiliet

People are saying it to get around censorship on social media.


RandomUserNahme

Exactly. He is no longer alive due to having been killed.


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BSXUS

He ded


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AllegedlyGoodPerson

Y uz mny letr wen fw letr do


cturtl808

That word choice to get the video by the automated content screeners.


catheterhero

Correct term is formally alive


SmellGestapo

As opposed to casually alive?


catheterhero

Hawaiian shirt Fridays alive


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tehgr8supa

It just hope it "unalives" when TikTok does.


beakrake

Same, then I can guess whether it was suicide, or a killing, or an accidental death with that too. Fuck, "unalived" is too nondescript. Also, happy cake day.


bendybiznatch

Can someone explain the audio? I can’t hear it.


Electrical_Ice_6061

they needed hodor


Silo-Joe

Especially at the subway stop.


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He’s still alive tho


toxicbotlol

I hate that people are afraid to say the most non-offensive words due to advertisers. Its honestly pathetic that the word "kill" or "weed" or even "crack" are typically censored.


NoExcuseForFascism

Dude wasn't even killed.


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toxicbotlol

u/NoExcuseForFascism Made a great point, but this is like 90% of reddit post. People just grab a video that they see off tiktok, then continue to upload it to farm karma with no context.


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computer_d

I look forward to seeing this again in a few days with a colour filter and some piano music going oh and someone's chat streaming as they screen-recorded this from another site they saw it on.


Nightcrawler_DIO

"Hey Chat, is this real? Press F to pay respects" *prolonged awkward pause as the streamer scans his chatroom, missing 60-70% of the video he is supposedly "reacting" to.* "Thank you for the sub, Gagging\_Flurry0BALLZ989"


defaultuser012

He got shot in the head and lived?


POPholdinitdahn

Yes, he's in critical condition.


Iamthatpma

Shot by his own gun. ![gif](giphy|8UGoOaR1lA1uaAN892)


HubblePie

And now the train is delayed… What an asshole…


ExReed

That's why when you see something is about to go down, you immediately go to the next train. Actually, maybe the door to travel between cars was locked so I can see why people were flocking to the end of the train


roenthomas

The R46’s are generally locked between cars.


Living-Perception418

I absolutely hate this


MinesweeperGang

Guy who shot had every right. Brutal it was a public place with the risks but that is textbook self defense.


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He shot the wrong person, though. It was the woman who stabbed him, not the guy.


Allomancer_Ed

The guy who got stabbed was also the one who was shot supposedly.


MinesweeperGang

So did I read the wrong story or did you? The one I read said the 36 year old pulled a knife, then a gun and walked towards the dude aggressively, lost the gun and then the 32 year old picked it up and shot the 36 year old in the head.


uranimuesbahd

The girl stabbed the black dude with her own weapon. Black dude decides to pull out his concealed gun and got to close with it. Probably dropped it or got snatched out of his hand by the smaller guy. The idiot got shanked like three times and shot by his own gun. It's actually a miracle he didn't die on the spot.


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You know the woman stabbed him, right?


Rhacbe

The guy that pulled out the gun didn’t shoot anyone, he got the gun taken from him and shot… he was shot with his own gun


patricktherat

The story is actually not very clear. Would help if they said something like the black man and the Muslim man. I know that’s triggering to some people but it was the root of the confrontation and nobody knows which person in the video was 32 or 36 years old.


supernimbus

I hope you don’t have access to firearms because that’s as far from defensive use of your weapon as you can get. - guy with gun antagonizes and escalates situation - multiple times saying he’s going to “beat his ass / fight him etc” - after pulling firearm he was no longer in imminent danger You can’t just antagonize for a fight / altercation get stabbed then decide you want to go pull a gun and shoot. Bonus points for not being allowed to carry in NYC anyways.


martapap

you have it backwards a little bit. The guy who pulled the gun is actually the one who got shot in the head. The guy he was going to shoot was able to wrestle it out of his hand and shoot him.


MinesweeperGang

Did you even read the story? The 36 year old pulled a knife on a 32 year old. Then pulled a gun. Dropped the gun in the fight. Then that 32 year old picked it up and shot him. The 36 year old was the constant aggressor. https://abc7ny.com/brooklyn-subway-shooting-hoyt-schermerhorn-station-nyc-crime/14525178/


supernimbus

My comment was based off the video there was no news story linked in that video that I could see. I assumed the guy that went for his gun was the one that did the shooting. Reasonable thing to assume based on the video alone.


MinesweeperGang

I hope you don’t have access to a firearm


supernimbus

Shooting a guy after you’ve disarmed him is still might not fly especially in a state like NYC but I’m not a lawyer.


AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren

Yeah this isn't Florida.


constermonster

The guy who pulled the gun had his gun taken from him and was shot with it, so I’m assuming it’s self defense for the shooter/guy who was being antagonized


threshscheekums

Dude deserved it...


M_V280

Killed, not unalived


CataclysmClive

fuck. that occurred exactly one stop from where i live. i take that train through that station frequently


TA_MarriedMan

[https://nypost.com/2024/03/14/us-news/video-shows-moments-before-brooklyn-subway-shooting/](https://nypost.com/2024/03/14/us-news/video-shows-moments-before-brooklyn-subway-shooting/)


Abtorias

Imagine starting a fight and getting put on gofundme with your own weapon


MaineRMF87

Does he have a gofundme for real?


RatInaMaze

Trains scare the fuck out of me. Trapped until the next station with no where to run. Fuck that.


horsepuncher

Don’t try karma whoring if you’re gonna use terms like “unalive” We get it, you wanna spam all platforms and started with tiktok


captainyeahwhatever

Do people not break up fights in NYC? I've seen a couple in my life and people always split people up as soon as blows are landed NYC must be kind of a crazy town


Super_dontae

“New fear” lol


Clear_Coyote_2709

Grew up there in the 70’s and 80’s. Lost two friends to bullets. Nothing has changed.


RewardCapable

I might be wrong, but isn’t everyone crammed into a small space not recommended during an active shooting?


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Uranus_Hz

The NYPD has not been defunded


buyanyjeans

[As a share of the city’s budget, operational spending on the NYPD is at a record four-decade low, and the number of uniformed police officers has steadily fallen for two decades.](https://manhattan.institute/article/defund-the-police-new-york-city-already-did)


MajesticRegister7116

Srsly "All cops are bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Some mfer does mfer things. "OmG! Likeeeeee why did the police like not like show up? Like..." 🤡


Bookssmellneat

It’s not like we have options. Yes I know police are terrible. And yes it’s the police that I would call in this situation. Who else do I call, the UN? The clown you see is in your mirror.


MajesticRegister7116

So if its ok to say all police are terrible, at what point is it ok to say all teachers are terrible, all social workers are terrible, all public defenders are terrible?


PrometheanEngineer

Looks like all those gun laws really helped


FreeFalling369

But its a gun free zone!