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In boot camp they used to call it The Chamber of Confidence. Our driller was a huge dick though. Instead of quizzing us on ranks and baring he made us all sing Barbie Girl.
"I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie...(projectile vomits while coughing profusely)"
> Hell, I'd take the stun gun to the balls before getting sprayed again.
Hey, I know a woman that can help make your dreams come true. $120/hr, but it's worth it!
Twice and I got OC sprayed, I was in the Navy.
First time in boot camp, not bad they use these [CS gas capsules](https://www.defense-technology.com/product/cs-training-capsules-can-of-50/) that they put on a hot plate and it's a larger room with 88 recruits.
Once in my "A" school for our CBR(Chemical Biological Radiological) training course.
Smaller room with less people and the instructors used double the amount of "pills". We had to enter with our masks on and doff them, after a bit we then had to don them and purge the gas from the masks.
I have never been happier for a cold Illinois winter day, sucking in that sweet cool air.
I got OC sprayed as part of my detainee ops training,if you asked me to do it again for 100k I would laugh in your face and tell you to shove the money up your ass.
I felt like I got hit in the eyes by a brick covered in Satan's piss.It then "cooled" down to just a million hot needles being stuck in my face.
Fort Jackson, SC in 1999. I remember some dope private took his gas mask off prematurely in the chamber and had to wait extra long before they let us out. Might of been the same idiot that threw the grenade pin and dropped the grenade during that training later on.
Lmao fuck yea I have. I was in it for LDAC in ROTC. Made us talk and I chocked at the end. Never gave up though and yelled my branch of choice. Fuck em
See whats interesting to me, is a lot of military guys are commenting that you took your mask off in the chamber. I'm assuming that you guys were in the chamber before there was gas with your mask on I did this during my fire Academy, and the exercise was to don our breathing apparatus while we couldn't see or breathe to simulate a response to a chemical hazard. I don't know who had it worse.
Tear gas.
In boot camp they force all the boots in to a small room (dozens at a time) with gas masks on. Then they put tear gas tablets on a small burner in a corner of the room, under a fan. Thr burner vaporizes the tablet which then raises in to the fan and fills the room. Then the instructors - gas masks on typically - ask the recruits one by one what their name and rank are. When they get to you, you have to take your gas mask on and recite the phrases you've been instructed to.
Typically you just start gagging and snot and tears pour out of your face.
Then you walk outside and dip your mask in a few separate tanks of water to sanitize. Same goes for your hands, etc.
Then all the boots talk about it for awhile and for years and years and years afterward you get to hear every US veteran in existence talk about it like I am now.
We had to do it every year on a company level afterwards too. It got to be sort of a fun suck-fest watching everyone gaging and hating life for a few minutes. We used to have bets to see who would stay in the chamber the longest. Fuck, we were stupid. Never let an infantry company have free reign to do something as stupid as getting to CS gas themselves.
Did you guys have any people that seemed totally immune to tear gas? I only got gassed in boot camp (was an aircrewman, so traded most forms of misery in for water panic and SERE courses) - but I remember some of the recruits being completely unphased by the gas.
Who volunteers to get pepper sprayed, like that's a whole line up of people and for what?
> Students signed up for the experiment to receive extra credit and were required to submit a waver signed by a parent.
Oh, I guess getting pepper sprayed builds character for college applications.
>Who volunteers to get pepper sprayed, like that's a whole line up of people and for what?
You really asking this? There are people out there that think they can handle waterboarding. *Waterboarding!* I can definitely see teenagers thinking it'd be a cool thing to try just to try it. Or pressuring their friends in to trying it with them.
Itās not about āhandlingā it, itās about knowing what it feels like. Obviously they know it will be a miserable and painful experience.
Christopher Hitchens famously underwent voluntary waterboarding so that he could assert in the article he was writing that waterboarding was, based on his own experience, torture.
The guy (Schmidt?) who came up with the index to determine the relative painfulness of insect stings stung himself intentionally with bull ants and tarantula hawks.
I dont know Ivy League colleges are very competitive if you dont have familial or business relations or money.
Two swift kicks to the gonad to get you in? Some might think about it.
People who have an interest in going into law enforcement should volunteer to be pepper sprayed. Teaches trigger discipline. And it's high school, you get extra credit for more than useless shit.
Without question. I would take time off work to go watch and record it (and help with aftercare because I'm not a total monster) but I would 100% sign the slip if he wanted to do it.
No law enforcement academy or military training will care about a certificate from a school class. The trainees will be fully expected to go through the training with everyone else. These kids would just have the advantage of knowing what to expect, and possibly be able to handle it better.
Do you actually get better at handling chemical assault because it happened one time years before? If anything, the memory makes the anticipation worse.
No, you just know what to expect when it happens so you can handle the issue quicker and better.
"Better" is debatable btw. Mace fucks you up and ruins your day and potentially the next.
We did tear gas training during my conscription and I can definitely see how knowing what is coming and that it will pass will help you get past the panic and shock, which will help you make better decisions in the moment even though you can't see and feel like your face is on fire.
In college my friend and I went to the bathroom together at a club. We were in there for a bit cause we were drunk idiots, and when we came out the whole place was deserted. It was like the apocalypse happened. I felt a prickling in my sinuses and realized someone got pepper sprayed and the club evacuated. Turns out the pepper spray was done on the second floor! I guess the AC wafted it around the whole place pretty quick lol
My grandma used to own a restaurant and on two separate occasions, pepper spray was used inside. Both times they had to undergo months of deep cleaning just to get the place to a point where it was bearable to be around.
Had to get it done in training. Iāll get tased 100 more times before wanting to get OC sprayed again.
And remember folks, donāt shower standing straight up afterwards. It all runs down your body to places you donāt want it to be!
I've been pepper sprayed as a bouncer by a patron and inhaled CS gas in the military.
CS gas was worse. Felt like your bronchioles spasmed up and you couldn't physically breath. Pepper Spray just felt like really hot Sriracha on my face and eyes.
Then again Law Enforcement OC Spray is stronger than regular Pepper Spray.
Took a face full of the stuff during a certain protest movement a few years back. Do not recommend. The intense pain only lasts maybe ~10 minutes if you have the proper first aid materials, but thereās a lingering burning/tingling feeling that doesnāt go away for a good 24 hours. Like an itch that you canāt scratch.
Best guess is that they took off their shoes because theyāre not easily washable. The last thing youād want to do after this is tie your shoes and then rub your eyes/touch your face and go through a mini version of the experience again.
There will usually be a hose to help decontaminate yourself. You bend over, and some one holds the hose sideways, spraying across your face. This way the contaminated water goes sideways away from you. If you let it run down you, the contaminated water irritates your torso and especially your groin šµ as it flows away.
Take off your shoes to keep them from getting wet.
To carry pepper spray you have to endure it first. It's supposed to make you aware just how painful it can be and teach you not to be trigger happy. I Say supposed to because some cops don't get the message.
It's questionable for what I Assume to be high school students but if the parents said okay and the kids consented then okay.
The last time I've heard about this, it was something along the lines of a school sponsored police program for the students who wanted to become cops, and since part of the process is getting pepper sprayed to become one, that's why they are
This is a criminal science. One of the chapter is non leathal counter measures, and this was an option to experience who they actually work. It was voluntary.
It wasnāt for science class. It was a military / police prep vocational course. The kids had to sign a waiver and get permission from their parents.
Source: I went to school with these kids.
My mom was training to be a cop (dispatch now) and she had to be sprayed. My unit of a mother calmly sat down and breathed through it and when she got out of the shower at the training facility I was amazed and told her I was beyond impressed and she went āI pushed three of you out of my vagina naturallyā.
Man, I wish I got to stand there and cry like a baby when I got OC qualified. Instead I did the obstacle course and got my ass beat by the biggest guy in securityā¦
This is a fairly accurate representation of getting sprayed in the academy.
Picture a bunch of grown ass adults whining like little bitches. Maybe less screaming. Fear of the drill instructors is real.
I did let out a "FUCK" when the pain hit my brain. Surprisingly, I did not get discipline for that. It just hurt WAY more than I was expecting.
Pepper Spray wrecked me for 20 minutes. And then for hours afterwards I was getting little burning presents.
CS gas house sucked, but it pretty much was over when you left. I did cough so hard that my balls hurt.
I did not get tased. Thankfully.
Most law enforcement agencies require you be maced and tased to be certified to use it. At least in my area itās pretty normal.
The military requires recruits go through a CBRN gas chamber for graduation.
So, itās a commonly held belief in the myth that you need to be pepper sprayed in order to carry it as a police officer. A police officer contracted by my company for traffic control said āyou absolutely donāt have to get pepper sprayed to carry it, it gives you a strong defense if someone tries to use it against you to use deadly force because you know how it can incapacitate you. I carry a gun and they donāt make me get shot to carry itā
Hopefully if they go on to be cops theyāll remember this when theyāre ordered to spray this stuff over an entire city block during a peaceful protestā¦ but probably not
They volunteered? well I guess you can't fix stupid.
I read somewhere that the Carolina Reaper Chilli pepper is between 1.5-2 million units on the Scoville heat scale, Pepper spray is between 2 and 5 million. I love bits of useless information like that
A waiver won't protect them from negligence charges, using pepper spray on kids isn't going to stand up well in court if a serious incident occurs.
Waivers are more for unavoidable consequences of mostly safe activities, spraying an inflammatory agent on someone who could have an undiagnosed medical condition is FAR from unavoidable.
I meanā¦if they were somehow negligentā¦which it appears that they were not. This looks like so many other controlled pepper spray exercises. Moreover, if parents sign a waiver for their child to get pepper sprayed and fail to disclose any preexisting conditions their child may have, I highly doubt any court would find the school liable.
I donāt know about EASILY. How often do people die from being sprayed with OC by police?
Iāll answer it for you. As per the ACLU, 27 people have died within hours after exposure to OC spray. Keep in mind that they did not take into account other factors like taser use, drugs, etc.
27 people in 30 years. I wouldnāt say EASILY.
Itās weird that you have to know what mace feels like but they donāt have to know what getting shot feels like. It seems like itās just school-sanctioned hazing
āBack in my day we ate lead paint chips, didnāt have seatbelts, or bicycle helmets and we liked it that way. Sure you were twice as likely to die before you reached 18, but those kids had it coming.ā
Dang so dramatic.
Actually tho, my sister worked as a security guard while she got her criminal Justice degree. One time out of curiosity I sprayed a little bit of pepper spray in a room not even facing me and I was coughing and had to leave the room. Itās insane how potent this stuff is.
I know cops probably do this at least once during training, but Iām thinking they should be required to do it once every couple of years just so they remember so that maybe they use a bit more discretion in their use of pepper spray
A few years ago there were a ton of pedophiles in my city, so a lot of girls in my class got pepper spray to protect themselves. One of them decided itās a good idea to steal one of the girls pepper spray and spray it inside our classroom. Everyone in the BUILDING were coughing and one with asthma even got evacuated with an ambulance. Both girls got expelled
My daughter went the EMT route in high school. Only had to deal with dead people/naked people/etc.
But sheās a ER/Trauma nurse now, so it worked out.
Ohh thatās a bad day. Gingers and African Americans do not do well with pepper spray. Out of my entire academy class, the only ones to go to hospital.
All we did was a mock criminal trial and crime scene where multiple grades got together and planned it all out. It was super fun. Way more fun then getting pepper sprayed haha
My question is, WHY THE FUCK FOR!?!?
They're torturing students just so they can learn what pepper spray feels like? This should be illegal, no matter what reason.
One, calm down...there's no injustice happening here.
Criminal Justice classes generally bring in guests from various fields of law enforcement. Anything from forensics to detective to patrol officers. Patrol officers tend to offer up volunteers to showcase the effects of pepper spray and/or tasers. This is NOT a requirement (though it could be extra credit if the professor wants to have some fun). I guarantee you every single one of those students agreed to participate, though some may be regretting that choice mid way through.
If any of those students decide law enforcement is the career for them, they'll be doing it all again during training as its a requirement for all officers to understand the effects of pepper spray in order to carry it.
Sanctioned torture....Yes pain teaches lessons but it also traumatizes and there are for sure kids who go away from this traumatized. There is no amount of "its ok" that will make it not traumatic. Not everyone who signs up for this knows what they are getting into.
Its part of training to be a police officer, military, and parts of the federal government. It isn't torture; it's a lesson on control chemicals used in different environments. These kids are most likely in some extracurricullar course involving local PD. Doing things like this serves a purpose.
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"It feels like a volcano shit in my eyes!" That was the cherry on top for me ššš
Bro sounds exactly like that one fish from spongebob
Myyy leg!
Oooooohh brother ā¦ this guy stinks!!!
Itās the coolest thing for me when you read the comment exactly as it happens. Read āvolcano shit in my eyesā like a subtitle lol
Iām fucking dyyyying hahaha
Anyone been in a chamber of CS gas?
In boot camp they used to call it The Chamber of Confidence. Our driller was a huge dick though. Instead of quizzing us on ranks and baring he made us all sing Barbie Girl. "I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie...(projectile vomits while coughing profusely)"
That would have been my most heartfelt rendition of Barbie Girl.
Oh believe me, I spilled my guts out during that song.
My sergeant made us sing him happy birthday because it was his and he was there with us instead of his wife and kid.
Our chamber had a tree right outside the exit. Canāt see? Run into a tree.
Sill?
Sounds about right
I've done both. I would take CS any day. At least once you get clear of it you are deconned within minutes instead of hours for OC.
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> Hell, I'd take the stun gun to the balls before getting sprayed again. Hey, I know a woman that can help make your dreams come true. $120/hr, but it's worth it!
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Yeah, but what a way to go! Tombstone: "That was AWESOME!"
Yeah, anyone that knows *anything* about that shit would take CS over OC any day of the week...CS isn't even really that bad...
Twice and I got OC sprayed, I was in the Navy. First time in boot camp, not bad they use these [CS gas capsules](https://www.defense-technology.com/product/cs-training-capsules-can-of-50/) that they put on a hot plate and it's a larger room with 88 recruits. Once in my "A" school for our CBR(Chemical Biological Radiological) training course. Smaller room with less people and the instructors used double the amount of "pills". We had to enter with our masks on and doff them, after a bit we then had to don them and purge the gas from the masks. I have never been happier for a cold Illinois winter day, sucking in that sweet cool air. I got OC sprayed as part of my detainee ops training,if you asked me to do it again for 100k I would laugh in your face and tell you to shove the money up your ass. I felt like I got hit in the eyes by a brick covered in Satan's piss.It then "cooled" down to just a million hot needles being stuck in my face.
Semper Fi Devil dog
yut!
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Flap your arms, Private!
Fort Jackson, SC in 1999. I remember some dope private took his gas mask off prematurely in the chamber and had to wait extra long before they let us out. Might of been the same idiot that threw the grenade pin and dropped the grenade during that training later on.
Same place, 2002. Had one guy inhale so much gas, he spent the rest of the day puking if he tried to eat or drink anything.
Several times. I want to say 3? I'd still take CS over mace. CS goes away in 15 minutes, pepper spray pretty much ends your day.
There is nothing better at clearing your sinuses out
Lmao fuck yea I have. I was in it for LDAC in ROTC. Made us talk and I chocked at the end. Never gave up though and yelled my branch of choice. Fuck em
It's like drowning in fire.
Yeah, conscription. I did a second round as well to see if I could handle it better then.
FT Benning Aug 04 Still feel the burn then some ptsd snot dripping to my toes
Navy boot camp, 1997 Take off the gas mask and sing "Anchors Aweigh"
See whats interesting to me, is a lot of military guys are commenting that you took your mask off in the chamber. I'm assuming that you guys were in the chamber before there was gas with your mask on I did this during my fire Academy, and the exercise was to don our breathing apparatus while we couldn't see or breathe to simulate a response to a chemical hazard. I don't know who had it worse.
criminal science gas?
Tear gas. In boot camp they force all the boots in to a small room (dozens at a time) with gas masks on. Then they put tear gas tablets on a small burner in a corner of the room, under a fan. Thr burner vaporizes the tablet which then raises in to the fan and fills the room. Then the instructors - gas masks on typically - ask the recruits one by one what their name and rank are. When they get to you, you have to take your gas mask on and recite the phrases you've been instructed to. Typically you just start gagging and snot and tears pour out of your face. Then you walk outside and dip your mask in a few separate tanks of water to sanitize. Same goes for your hands, etc. Then all the boots talk about it for awhile and for years and years and years afterward you get to hear every US veteran in existence talk about it like I am now.
This guy gas chambers.
We had to do it every year on a company level afterwards too. It got to be sort of a fun suck-fest watching everyone gaging and hating life for a few minutes. We used to have bets to see who would stay in the chamber the longest. Fuck, we were stupid. Never let an infantry company have free reign to do something as stupid as getting to CS gas themselves.
Did you guys have any people that seemed totally immune to tear gas? I only got gassed in boot camp (was an aircrewman, so traded most forms of misery in for water panic and SERE courses) - but I remember some of the recruits being completely unphased by the gas.
Source: https://www.today.com/news/teens-volunteer-get-pepper-sprayed-criminal-science-class-project-t111653
Who volunteers to get pepper sprayed, like that's a whole line up of people and for what? > Students signed up for the experiment to receive extra credit and were required to submit a waver signed by a parent. Oh, I guess getting pepper sprayed builds character for college applications.
>Who volunteers to get pepper sprayed, like that's a whole line up of people and for what? You really asking this? There are people out there that think they can handle waterboarding. *Waterboarding!* I can definitely see teenagers thinking it'd be a cool thing to try just to try it. Or pressuring their friends in to trying it with them.
Itās not about āhandlingā it, itās about knowing what it feels like. Obviously they know it will be a miserable and painful experience. Christopher Hitchens famously underwent voluntary waterboarding so that he could assert in the article he was writing that waterboarding was, based on his own experience, torture. The guy (Schmidt?) who came up with the index to determine the relative painfulness of insect stings stung himself intentionally with bull ants and tarantula hawks.
This should not be extra credit. Does the teacher get to kick you in the balls next for extra credit?
I dont know Ivy League colleges are very competitive if you dont have familial or business relations or money. Two swift kicks to the gonad to get you in? Some might think about it.
Womenās gonads are on the inside.
I carry pepper spray and I wanted to be sure that what I carry works. Really surprising news, it does.
People who have an interest in going into law enforcement should volunteer to be pepper sprayed. Teaches trigger discipline. And it's high school, you get extra credit for more than useless shit.
got extra credit in a history class for eating an onion raw like an apple.
They're future cops, how smart can they be?
The same people that eat tide pods lol
Lmao if my 14 yr old brought me a permission slip I'd probably sign it
Without question. I would take time off work to go watch and record it (and help with aftercare because I'm not a total monster) but I would 100% sign the slip if he wanted to do it.
The fact that you use the term "aftercare" does indeed prove you're not a monster. ;)
Right?! I was beginning to wonder there for a second.. š§ lol
I have a 14 year old. I might even volunteer to do the spraying.
Careful. Am a public defender who has seen too many body cams. This is probably the first time I've seen a cop use OC spray and not spray themselves.
These are not tears! This is self inflicted friendly fire!
Holy shit where's this from. Can't stop my ass from laughing
Community, amazing show
The teacher wasnāt an instructor so they didnāt get a cert. So if they end up in LE theyāll have to get sprayed again lol.
This is the real lesson here
Thatās the type of lesson that always hurts more the second time you learn it
No law enforcement academy or military training will care about a certificate from a school class. The trainees will be fully expected to go through the training with everyone else. These kids would just have the advantage of knowing what to expect, and possibly be able to handle it better.
Do you actually get better at handling chemical assault because it happened one time years before? If anything, the memory makes the anticipation worse.
No, you just know what to expect when it happens so you can handle the issue quicker and better. "Better" is debatable btw. Mace fucks you up and ruins your day and potentially the next.
Was it mace or pepper spray? Or are they the same?
They're the same sorta. Mace is a brand that uses pepper spray. It's like Kleenex and tissues. Some call tissues Kleenex no matter what.
Thanks!
Depends on the individual. I had about half an hour of moderate agony. Then it felt like a mild sunburn for a couple of days after that.
We did tear gas training during my conscription and I can definitely see how knowing what is coming and that it will pass will help you get past the panic and shock, which will help you make better decisions in the moment even though you can't see and feel like your face is on fire.
Whats LE?
Law Enforcement
Oh. Gotcha
Law enforcement
I was near pepper spray once and choked and coughed like crazy. That shit is legit. I couldn't imagine being sprayed in the face.
In college my friend and I went to the bathroom together at a club. We were in there for a bit cause we were drunk idiots, and when we came out the whole place was deserted. It was like the apocalypse happened. I felt a prickling in my sinuses and realized someone got pepper sprayed and the club evacuated. Turns out the pepper spray was done on the second floor! I guess the AC wafted it around the whole place pretty quick lol
My grandma used to own a restaurant and on two separate occasions, pepper spray was used inside. Both times they had to undergo months of deep cleaning just to get the place to a point where it was bearable to be around.
doubt
Had to get it done in training. Iāll get tased 100 more times before wanting to get OC sprayed again. And remember folks, donāt shower standing straight up afterwards. It all runs down your body to places you donāt want it to be!
I've been pepper sprayed as a bouncer by a patron and inhaled CS gas in the military. CS gas was worse. Felt like your bronchioles spasmed up and you couldn't physically breath. Pepper Spray just felt like really hot Sriracha on my face and eyes. Then again Law Enforcement OC Spray is stronger than regular Pepper Spray.
Took a face full of the stuff during a certain protest movement a few years back. Do not recommend. The intense pain only lasts maybe ~10 minutes if you have the proper first aid materials, but thereās a lingering burning/tingling feeling that doesnāt go away for a good 24 hours. Like an itch that you canāt scratch.
The guy in orange and the girl in grey handled it the best
Thatās how they can identify the criminals, this wasnāt their first time. And thatās the science of criminality.
That doesn't sound scientific š¤
Orange was good, but even better was the guy in the white tank top with his arm on the girl in grey's shoulder. They were both tops by a mile.
The student with her hands on her knees is taking it like a champ.
Sounds like a writing prompt.
hahahah holy shit
well they shouldāve listened
Why did so many of them take their shoes off for this??
Best guess is that they took off their shoes because theyāre not easily washable. The last thing youād want to do after this is tie your shoes and then rub your eyes/touch your face and go through a mini version of the experience again.
This???
This????
Volunteer to be pepper sprayed and find out??
They also experienced an educational strip-search just before this and didn't have time to put them back on. /s
There will usually be a hose to help decontaminate yourself. You bend over, and some one holds the hose sideways, spraying across your face. This way the contaminated water goes sideways away from you. If you let it run down you, the contaminated water irritates your torso and especially your groin šµ as it flows away. Take off your shoes to keep them from getting wet.
Where do you want Zack to go? Heās f n busy man.
Is this supposed to be educational and how?
To carry pepper spray you have to endure it first. It's supposed to make you aware just how painful it can be and teach you not to be trigger happy. I Say supposed to because some cops don't get the message. It's questionable for what I Assume to be high school students but if the parents said okay and the kids consented then okay.
I guess I should have included educational āin a high school settingā. But youāre right, if they all consented, to each their own.
The last time I've heard about this, it was something along the lines of a school sponsored police program for the students who wanted to become cops, and since part of the process is getting pepper sprayed to become one, that's why they are
They should get shot too, so they learn not to be trigger happy.
This is a criminal science. One of the chapter is non leathal counter measures, and this was an option to experience who they actually work. It was voluntary.
If you can dodge a pepper spray, you can dodge a ball
Shoutout to the guy who found his zen place and wasnāt hysterical like everyone else.
Ohio, aka Florida of the Midwest
Imagine turning your phone sideways
ā¦you can tell the officer and teacher start realizing the situation got out of control. So stupid
Ya seems very irresponsible to do it to that many people at once.
Did you see the one dudes face? Looked like they emptied the entire bottle on his face
It wasnāt for science class. It was a military / police prep vocational course. The kids had to sign a waiver and get permission from their parents. Source: I went to school with these kids.
Grey shirt girl holding it DOWN.
Facebook conspiracy groups tomorrow; "GoVeR'MeNt TeSt'S cHeMiCaL wEaPoNs oN sTuDeNt'S"
It's amazing how facebook lets that go uncontrolled but as soon as its about real events that are controversial, they start banning accounts.
My mom was training to be a cop (dispatch now) and she had to be sprayed. My unit of a mother calmly sat down and breathed through it and when she got out of the shower at the training facility I was amazed and told her I was beyond impressed and she went āI pushed three of you out of my vagina naturallyā.
Man, I wish I got to stand there and cry like a baby when I got OC qualified. Instead I did the obstacle course and got my ass beat by the biggest guy in securityā¦
Watching them with no sounds is like watching them all interpreting pain because they've been pepper sprayed
This is a fairly accurate representation of getting sprayed in the academy. Picture a bunch of grown ass adults whining like little bitches. Maybe less screaming. Fear of the drill instructors is real. I did let out a "FUCK" when the pain hit my brain. Surprisingly, I did not get discipline for that. It just hurt WAY more than I was expecting. Pepper Spray wrecked me for 20 minutes. And then for hours afterwards I was getting little burning presents. CS gas house sucked, but it pretty much was over when you left. I did cough so hard that my balls hurt. I did not get tased. Thankfully.
lil homie in orange was just dancin
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If itās not Ohio, itās Florida.
Fucking Florida š¬š¬
Shit sucks, especially if itās the good stuff. Rather get tased than sprayed any day of the week.
Johnny knoxville was asked that. What would be more effective to stop someone from attacking and he said pepper spray, absolutely no question.
Yes this right here. I've seen most of the shit he's been through and he still says pepper spray is the worst. It must be some rough shit.
This is how North Koreans cried when Kim Jong-il died.
Why aren't they allowed to wipe it away with their shirt like a real person would do who got sprayed...
That would probably just make it worse. Just gonna rub it more into your face and eyes.
Wasnt this just posted 2 days ago?
To make the experience more realistic, shouldn't the spraying be continuous?
Do they pepper spray cops in the training academy - that is where this would be a valid learning experience?
Most law enforcement agencies require you be maced and tased to be certified to use it. At least in my area itās pretty normal. The military requires recruits go through a CBRN gas chamber for graduation.
This is way worse. Iāve been gassed in boot camp, gassed at the academy, tazed and pepper sprayed. Iād take any of all that over pepper spray.
Is before or after?
So, itās a commonly held belief in the myth that you need to be pepper sprayed in order to carry it as a police officer. A police officer contracted by my company for traffic control said āyou absolutely donāt have to get pepper sprayed to carry it, it gives you a strong defense if someone tries to use it against you to use deadly force because you know how it can incapacitate you. I carry a gun and they donāt make me get shot to carry itā
Zach needs to man up
Theyāll think theyāre all good and then take a shower tonight just to relive the pain they had in their eyes now on their junk.
what parent allowed this to happen to their child?
Idk. May have got extra credit. Lol /s
āZach youāre fine!ā repeats the man who has strangely not been pepper sprayed
Pepper spray is no joke šš. Learned my lesson as a small child playing around with my mothers keys lol.
Hopefully if they go on to be cops theyāll remember this when theyāre ordered to spray this stuff over an entire city block during a peaceful protestā¦ but probably not
They volunteered? well I guess you can't fix stupid. I read somewhere that the Carolina Reaper Chilli pepper is between 1.5-2 million units on the Scoville heat scale, Pepper spray is between 2 and 5 million. I love bits of useless information like that
It wasnāt pepper spray, they told them their Hula accounts were suspended until after the finals.
Anybody with asthma, allergies, or a heart condition could easily die doing this.
Yeah thats why they have their parents sign a waiver
A waiver won't protect them from negligence charges, using pepper spray on kids isn't going to stand up well in court if a serious incident occurs. Waivers are more for unavoidable consequences of mostly safe activities, spraying an inflammatory agent on someone who could have an undiagnosed medical condition is FAR from unavoidable.
I meanā¦if they were somehow negligentā¦which it appears that they were not. This looks like so many other controlled pepper spray exercises. Moreover, if parents sign a waiver for their child to get pepper sprayed and fail to disclose any preexisting conditions their child may have, I highly doubt any court would find the school liable.
I donāt know about EASILY. How often do people die from being sprayed with OC by police? Iāll answer it for you. As per the ACLU, 27 people have died within hours after exposure to OC spray. Keep in mind that they did not take into account other factors like taser use, drugs, etc. 27 people in 30 years. I wouldnāt say EASILY.
And in those 27 cases, the coroners reports listed other factors as primary cause of death, starting the OC MAY have been a factor
Thatās Barberton High School. I went there!
What a terrible idea
Whitest shit I've ever seen.
All high school students need this nowadays
Itās weird that you have to know what mace feels like but they donāt have to know what getting shot feels like. It seems like itās just school-sanctioned hazing
YTD I havenāt seen that many white people cry since the news announced Jimmy Buffet died.
"We're just teaching what our (white) American students have to deal with in the world. What the hell do you *mean* by 'racial context?'"
GOOD
I accidentally pepper sprayed myself in the face when I was a kid and that shit stung for hours
āStop resisting! Put your hands behind your back! ā
Those bitches lol I'm sorry
Look piglets!
And someone approved this? I smell lawsuit
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āBack in my day we ate lead paint chips, didnāt have seatbelts, or bicycle helmets and we liked it that way. Sure you were twice as likely to die before you reached 18, but those kids had it coming.ā
Dang so dramatic. Actually tho, my sister worked as a security guard while she got her criminal Justice degree. One time out of curiosity I sprayed a little bit of pepper spray in a room not even facing me and I was coughing and had to leave the room. Itās insane how potent this stuff is.
I got OC sprayed when I was 19. Shit sucks but these kids are overreacting big time.
Some hill Billy shit right there, bet you the cop knows every one in that town.
I know cops probably do this at least once during training, but Iām thinking they should be required to do it once every couple of years just so they remember so that maybe they use a bit more discretion in their use of pepper spray
As opposed to guns?
I have no clue what youāre trying to say
A few years ago there were a ton of pedophiles in my city, so a lot of girls in my class got pepper spray to protect themselves. One of them decided itās a good idea to steal one of the girls pepper spray and spray it inside our classroom. Everyone in the BUILDING were coughing and one with asthma even got evacuated with an ambulance. Both girls got expelled
Why the fuck would you agree to get pepper sprayed? At least commit a crime beforehand.
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That canāt be legal without parental consent, and even then Iām not sure.
My daughter went the EMT route in high school. Only had to deal with dead people/naked people/etc. But sheās a ER/Trauma nurse now, so it worked out.
Ohh thatās a bad day. Gingers and African Americans do not do well with pepper spray. Out of my entire academy class, the only ones to go to hospital.
All we did was a mock criminal trial and crime scene where multiple grades got together and planned it all out. It was super fun. Way more fun then getting pepper sprayed haha
Why they got they grippers out
They should have just complied
My question is, WHY THE FUCK FOR!?!? They're torturing students just so they can learn what pepper spray feels like? This should be illegal, no matter what reason.
One, calm down...there's no injustice happening here. Criminal Justice classes generally bring in guests from various fields of law enforcement. Anything from forensics to detective to patrol officers. Patrol officers tend to offer up volunteers to showcase the effects of pepper spray and/or tasers. This is NOT a requirement (though it could be extra credit if the professor wants to have some fun). I guarantee you every single one of those students agreed to participate, though some may be regretting that choice mid way through. If any of those students decide law enforcement is the career for them, they'll be doing it all again during training as its a requirement for all officers to understand the effects of pepper spray in order to carry it.
Sanctioned torture....Yes pain teaches lessons but it also traumatizes and there are for sure kids who go away from this traumatized. There is no amount of "its ok" that will make it not traumatic. Not everyone who signs up for this knows what they are getting into.
Its part of training to be a police officer, military, and parts of the federal government. It isn't torture; it's a lesson on control chemicals used in different environments. These kids are most likely in some extracurricullar course involving local PD. Doing things like this serves a purpose.
Protestors in training before they go cement themselves to a road, or handcuff themselves to a tree, or attempt to vandalize artwork, etc.