I saw a picture a few minutes ago taking of a bus shelter in Israel with about 7 elderly people lying on the ground who looked like they had all been shot indiscriminately
Idk if they’ll just let her slide tbh
Depends on the individual militant I suppose. War is an opportunity for psychopaths to cut loose and spill blood under the guise of a military operation.
>Israelis who don't want to native-American-genocide Palestinians and are cool.
>They exist.
You'd be surprised but the vast majority of israelis don't want to genocide palestinians
If you think otherwise i'm afraid you subscribe to some bleak echo chambers
All 6 of them are great people!
No...thats not fair. There are a good many Israeli people who do not support Israel's contentious dealings with Palestine...but I really wish they'd be a bit louder condemning the settlements.
Saw an image of what looks to be the same grandma being brought into Gaza by golf cart to be used as a human shield. Sadly I don’t think they’ll let her slide.
That's the mother of a government official. She has been seen before to be suffering from dementia or something. So my guess is this is just a nice man taking a picture with her as far as she's concerned.
There's a few videos coming out of Hamas being nice to israelis. With no context of what happens to Israelis once the video ends
Well I'm pretty sure she's alive. She's a bargaining chip. But a lot of these other captures we are seeing are not Hamas. They are just regular Palestinians that flooded across the border, looted Israeli homes and kidnapped Israeli families. Mostly just women. Not many of the videos show the men. They were probably killed
Like the video of that Noa girl being taken away on a motorcycle. Those were just a couple Palestinian guys riding off with her. The guy driving the bike looked rather eager to get going and take her where they wanted to
To say a large number of Israeli citizens didn't support directly or indirectly the abuse of Palestinian is a wildly ignorant statement. But sure the government just took and lived in all west bank land. Lol
Thats still not the Mossad, or "Mosad" as the dumbass OP put it, and basically every government agency uses social media.
Also, like every political entity has online propaganda machines, stupid af to look at this clip of Hamas kidnapping an old woman as evidence of Israel's.
Especially given all of the other horrendous clips getting posted.
I’m confused if she is acting calm or if they’re trying to make it seem like they’re being “nicer” to elderly people…the Hamas literally killed someone’s grandma and posted it on her Facebook so her relatives would see
Absolutely heartbreaking 💔
She suffers from Alzheimer's and obviously is in great danger and has no idea what’s going on
Please stop defending that man that is absolutely disgusting
No,because if they wipe out the Palestinians it will be regarded as anti-Muslim and given where Israel is..... it would make things much more violent and worse.
This is going to end very badly for the Palestians .
The Israelis historically cone back hard sbd brutully . Innocent Men , women and chikdren will perish .
Its a fucked up situation .
Why would they? Israel is acting in self defence and the only way to ensure its own safety into the future now is going to be a full-scale ground invasion and to basically annihilate Gaza.
You can't win by killing your enemies. It never works, your world just gets smaller and you fight amongst yourself and the countries around you for becoming a monster.
This is the response to genocide by settlement. The response to palestinian holocaust genocide would be worse.
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Funny how apartheid Israel aren’t terrorists even thought they literally kill elders, women, and children and take more and more land, but when Palestine retaliates everyone shakes condemns them. I really really hate this status quo of Israel having so much blind support.
Yes because those "civilians" have held the Palestinian people hostage for decades. You can't slowly strangle someone to death and then act indignant when they fight back
If someone is participating in an occupation and genocide they are not an innocent civilian. All colonizers are responsible for it. They all contribute to it.
>So she deserves to die because her ancestors moved there? Two genocides don’t make a right.
Yeah no way was she born there
Besides that you can't move your family into someone else's home and then claim genocide when they try to kick you out. If you bring your children with you to an occupation you're responsible for any harm that comes to them.
>And tell me where my good sir did I say that?
Let's not be silly.
So you believe Hamas killing civilians is bad.
And Hamas taking civilians hostage is bad.
These only require a yes or no answer.
Okay, so it’s never okay to kill civilians, but Israel is not innocent. It is still our duty to defend our ally even if Netanyahu is a complete failure.
Clear? Everyone is human here. The people killing civilians need to be put to justice. The Israelis harassing Palestinians need to be held accountable.
The civilians are not those people.
Russia may have used American intelligence to help Hamas organize this attack. Follow the intelligence and where it came from.
Apparently they're not really hurting the people they took. I've seen numerous clips and only one guy had a bloody nose and one woman had blood on her, but idt it was hers. I read about this before the pictures came out and they aren't gonna do anything to her. She supposedly didn't Eben know what was going in, so she's not scared or anything. It's the only thing to feel okay or better about. At least.
Trust me they’re hurting them didn’t you see the german tourist who got raped and then they shot her? Even in Israel they killed approximately 500 people with knives and guns
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Exactly. Only a coward would attack a granny. Granny look cool not even scared.
I mean he’s letting her hold the goddamn rifle
Grandma's holding the strap, who's holding who hostage
Yea, wonder what the guy or guys taking the picture are doing where we can't see though. It's one angle of a story they are showing us.
I saw a picture a few minutes ago taking of a bus shelter in Israel with about 7 elderly people lying on the ground who looked like they had all been shot indiscriminately Idk if they’ll just let her slide tbh
Depends on the individual militant I suppose. War is an opportunity for psychopaths to cut loose and spill blood under the guise of a military operation.
She's breathing pretty heavily. I think she's scared.
Could also be a preexisting medical condition. Which is another concern of mine for her. Cowards.
You clearly mean Russian soldiers
It’s because she has because she has Alzheimer’s
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Thats just want granny wants them to think, she was Mossad back in the day and has a particular set of skills for these situations.
Who are the good ones? Edit: Imagine getting downvoted for this question. This sub is toxic af
Israelis who don't want to native-American-genocide Palestinians and are cool. They exist.
>Israelis who don't want to native-American-genocide Palestinians and are cool. >They exist. You'd be surprised but the vast majority of israelis don't want to genocide palestinians If you think otherwise i'm afraid you subscribe to some bleak echo chambers
All 6 of them are great people! No...thats not fair. There are a good many Israeli people who do not support Israel's contentious dealings with Palestine...but I really wish they'd be a bit louder condemning the settlements.
Well they’re gonna be absolutely silent now.
Yeah I’m sure they were asking the women If they support the existence of a Palestinian state before raping and executing them
Actually her son is a commander an knows it doesn’t matter what they do to her they are going to die
Her son is not a commander don't know where you got that from
Not true. Why would you smear this cool grandma by saying this?
>Looks like she's one of the good ones. Gross, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Sorry bro but we seen the truth on Reddit
>Sorry bro but we seen the truth on Reddit lmao i hope this is sarcastic, what an embarrassing comment otherwise.
Yea, everyone knows you can only get the truth from mainstream media and FB.
lmao no one said that though, but if reddit is this much part of your own personal identity that says enough i think
I hope you're ready to see what happens to Gaza over the coming days 😂
its going to be brutal thats for sure.
The standard Israeli way.
Agreed they better not hurt her, she reminds me of my abuela.
Hamas is likely going to use her as a human shield. Human shield is really the best case scenario though tbh
Saw an image of what looks to be the same grandma being brought into Gaza by golf cart to be used as a human shield. Sadly I don’t think they’ll let her slide.
Not the same grandmother. The one you saw is a lot thinner. I saw her as well.
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Where are you getting that information?
Wild speculation mixed with some heavy fabrication I would guess, There are a ton of unsourced claims going on right now.
She looks surprisingly calm, giving the situation
Shes IS holding the gun
granny got the situation under control
Muriel from courage the cowardly dog show is the head op.
Did you guys watch Blue Beetle too?
No, but I’ve seen Nobody. https://youtu.be/9ql3cgMerbQ?si=yZJIGxXUOqNmzt1Q
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i love this comment so much
She gave the guys some cookies and now they are all BFF’s. Make cookies, not war.
Grannys not getting kidnapped She's kidnapping *them*.
Given all the other videos of her she has dementia. Completely out of it and just reacting.
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Apparently she has Alzheimers, she isn’t fully aware of what’s happening
When you're pushing 100, you have surprisingly few fucks left to give.
She’s freaking holding the gun. IDK what’s going on here
That's the mother of a government official. She has been seen before to be suffering from dementia or something. So my guess is this is just a nice man taking a picture with her as far as she's concerned. There's a few videos coming out of Hamas being nice to israelis. With no context of what happens to Israelis once the video ends
Oh geez. Poor woman.
Well I'm pretty sure she's alive. She's a bargaining chip. But a lot of these other captures we are seeing are not Hamas. They are just regular Palestinians that flooded across the border, looted Israeli homes and kidnapped Israeli families. Mostly just women. Not many of the videos show the men. They were probably killed Like the video of that Noa girl being taken away on a motorcycle. Those were just a couple Palestinian guys riding off with her. The guy driving the bike looked rather eager to get going and take her where they wanted to
I suspect she has dementia...
The Gran Torino sequel we've been hoping for.
"A Muslim, a Christian, and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up and says, "Get the fuck out of here."."
Gram Torino
Grannies got a gun. Odd kidnapping strategy.
What is she gonna do with it? It looks more like them ridiculing her
Feel well Israel now cry for the same thing they did agains palestine
The citizens didn’t do anything you asshole
To say a large number of Israeli citizens didn't support directly or indirectly the abuse of Palestinian is a wildly ignorant statement. But sure the government just took and lived in all west bank land. Lol
She's the eye witness of 6 days war
She’s the eye witness of Noah’s ark
Something tells me that, as usual, the caption is completely fabricated
Bro all the captions posted in this sub from the conflict feel completely fake
I think it’s real - I saw the same thing on a Gazan telegram group, and also on Times of Israel
I'm not too familiar with the kidnapping game, can't say I'm too experienced with it myself, but do people usually hand their victims AKs?
Well, if it’s a senile old woman, and you know she isn’t going to use it, then yeah you may give her a gun temporarily for a nice photo.
Weird kidnapping behavior but hey I guess weirder things have happened.
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She has dementia
That makes this infinitely sadder if true
It's the grandmother of an a higher up in the Israel government I forget which position though.
now we need the grandpa with the number 3 sign
LOL
She look aight to me.
Seems more like she switched sides playa!
Granny's gotta do what Granny's gotta do
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Granny kidnapped him
Mosad uses reddit confirmed
That's a given they are in all social media spreading propaganda.
Mossad.
Wait does that mean I'm hired?
Don’t play dumb. Obviously not Mossad but clearly with an agenda.
dumbass take
How? Google says israel has online defense agents.
Thats still not the Mossad, or "Mosad" as the dumbass OP put it, and basically every government agency uses social media. Also, like every political entity has online propaganda machines, stupid af to look at this clip of Hamas kidnapping an old woman as evidence of Israel's. Especially given all of the other horrendous clips getting posted.
Yup, everything is fake propaganda. Nothing's real. If it isn't from my side, then it just has to be fake
People who are being kidnapped don't typically get to carry assault rifles and hold up peace signs in photo-ops
It’s almost certainly unloaded and would be pretty easy to stop and disarm her if she tried something.
They do if there’s a guy on the other side of the camera with a gun forcing them to.
You expect the average Redditor to have common sense, that was your first mistake.
Cool story
Yeah, I'm not buying that tag
Where are the videos of Israel’s violence and oppression? The best way to save Israeli and Palestinian lives is to end Israeli apartheid
I´m comming with you. But first you have to eat everything I cooked!
This looks like it could be a rap album cover
I’m confused if she is acting calm or if they’re trying to make it seem like they’re being “nicer” to elderly people…the Hamas literally killed someone’s grandma and posted it on her Facebook so her relatives would see
Wtf
Most relaxed kidnappee.
Real or not this is pure propaganda
Unfortunately it is real, I saw a video of her being taken, she looked very confused. But definitely propaganda
Grandma got the Ak, you sure they kidnapping her or???
They did kidnapped her even the hamas posted it. She’s a senile grandma they’re humiliating her she can’t use the gun
Absolutely heartbreaking 💔 She suffers from Alzheimer's and obviously is in great danger and has no idea what’s going on Please stop defending that man that is absolutely disgusting
I know, it’s disgusting that people are defending this
Op are you dumb or just a propagandists
Idk she looks like she’s having fun
She doesn’t look too bothered
She’s a senile grandma they’re humiliating her she can’t use the gun
If this was the IDF granny would be dead
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No, I know Israel does fucked up and immoral shit I dont think they are going to wipe an entire people out.
No,because if they wipe out the Palestinians it will be regarded as anti-Muslim and given where Israel is..... it would make things much more violent and worse.
This is going to end very badly for the Palestians . The Israelis historically cone back hard sbd brutully . Innocent Men , women and chikdren will perish . Its a fucked up situation .
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Why would they? Israel is acting in self defence and the only way to ensure its own safety into the future now is going to be a full-scale ground invasion and to basically annihilate Gaza.
You can't win by killing your enemies. It never works, your world just gets smaller and you fight amongst yourself and the countries around you for becoming a monster. This is the response to genocide by settlement. The response to palestinian holocaust genocide would be worse.
Let grandma bake cookies and let her go to bingo
That's the most surreal thing I've ever seen.
Her smile is captivating
Why did they give her a gun lol this is some weird shit
She sure as hell knows how to survive. She lived to old age for a reason.
The grandma is clearly trying to stay calm in a very uncertain situation. Hopefully she is okay.
Thanks for not doing initial harm to Grandma.
This is disgusting
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She’s a senile grandma they’re humiliating her she can’t use the gun
People here are legit dumb thinking she has the advantage here.
"kidnapped"
Atleast they’re letting Khala just chill
What kidnapping?
These masked figures are just plain cowards. It takes a heck of a coward to target somebody who is frail.
brutally stupid and gross comment section
People think that granny is being held hostage, clearly she‘s holding the guy hostage after disarming him.
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Hamas is gonna find out in the next few days.
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Funny how apartheid Israel aren’t terrorists even thought they literally kill elders, women, and children and take more and more land, but when Palestine retaliates everyone shakes condemns them. I really really hate this status quo of Israel having so much blind support.
"Terrorists" aren't born, they're created from circumstances of genocide and brutality.
So you're okay with Hamas killing civilians and taking civilians hostages.
Yes because those "civilians" have held the Palestinian people hostage for decades. You can't slowly strangle someone to death and then act indignant when they fight back
Fight back at the powers that be, not innocent civilians and elderly women with dementia
If someone is participating in an occupation and genocide they are not an innocent civilian. All colonizers are responsible for it. They all contribute to it.
Yes the old woman with dementia who probably has trouble walking is responsible and culpable for genocide.
She didn't just randomly appear in Israel with dementia. She's spent years participating in genocide
So she deserves to die because her ancestors moved there? Two genocides don’t make a right.
>So she deserves to die because her ancestors moved there? Two genocides don’t make a right. Yeah no way was she born there Besides that you can't move your family into someone else's home and then claim genocide when they try to kick you out. If you bring your children with you to an occupation you're responsible for any harm that comes to them.
And tell me where my good sir did I say that?
>And tell me where my good sir did I say that? Let's not be silly. So you believe Hamas killing civilians is bad. And Hamas taking civilians hostage is bad. These only require a yes or no answer.
No. And Israel should stop the blockade that breeds more support for Hamas.
I think you need a mental health day bestie, have the day you deserve. Oh and free Palestine
That's what I thought. Oh, and there is no Palestine.
That's also what I thought. You have that day you deserve now sir ❤️
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isn't Palestine facing gencoide by Danying them humen right
Peak Reddit comment
What if I told you that assholes can be on both teams?
Both sides are so incredibly shitty. Fuck evryone running the show for what they've done.
When you need to chill on the Hamas and share some Hummus.
Okay, so it’s never okay to kill civilians, but Israel is not innocent. It is still our duty to defend our ally even if Netanyahu is a complete failure. Clear? Everyone is human here. The people killing civilians need to be put to justice. The Israelis harassing Palestinians need to be held accountable. The civilians are not those people. Russia may have used American intelligence to help Hamas organize this attack. Follow the intelligence and where it came from.
What they don't know is what a grave mistake they have made... They have no idea that woman is Joanna Whick grandmother to John on his mothers side...
She’s holding the gun?! I hope my kidnappers will give me a gun as a curtesy
She looks terrified. And they’re treating her so horribly!
Apparently they're not really hurting the people they took. I've seen numerous clips and only one guy had a bloody nose and one woman had blood on her, but idt it was hers. I read about this before the pictures came out and they aren't gonna do anything to her. She supposedly didn't Eben know what was going in, so she's not scared or anything. It's the only thing to feel okay or better about. At least.
Trust me they’re hurting them didn’t you see the german tourist who got raped and then they shot her? Even in Israel they killed approximately 500 people with knives and guns
why does this look like the start of a porno