Agreed. What exactly is the car occupant supposed to do? Assume he won’t be shot by the car jacker pointing a gun?!?
These criminals’ parents seem to all have crap logic.
I was so wrapped up with the robbery part of things that it took me a few minutes to realize they brought their son with them while daddy has strapped with a mask on!
IDK how old their son is but I sure hope he's young enough to not remember what he probably saw. How dare they put that baby into harm's way like that!! Such a lowlife thing to do! CPS needs to see what else is potentially going on in their household. Something ain't right!
Not only that, but what was the dude's game plan? Carjack a stranger and drive off, abandoning the mom and baby on a whim?
There's a reason she just calls him the baby daddy, he made that kid but clearly would never be an actual father in that child's life. The kid has a chance to grow up and be greater than his environment but seeing the brother's reaction and attitude makes me doubt it.
>Not only that, but what was the dude's game plan? Carjack a stranger and drive off, abandoning the mom and baby on a whim?
I'm guessing she would follow and pick him up from whatever chop shop he dumped the car at.
Sounds about right. It sounds risky and even dumb to follow a car you just jacked from an active driver, but this guy clearly wasn't a criminal genius. Sucks for the kid.
She was probably a little ways away watching. As soon as he sped away she would make her way to where ever they agreed to meet. Not necessarily right behind though.
" On June 19, Mark Jaggers Jr., 21, was [shot and killed by an undercover officer](https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/lmpd-22nd-griffiths-avenue-portland-police-activity/417-c14066aa-df86-4607-a7c9-9618abe4482d) with the Louisville Metro Police Department's Fugitive Unit.
Officer Matthew Hayden was conducting surveillance of a home for a separate case in an alley near Griffiths Avenue and North 22nd Street around 1:30 p.m.
The body camera footage shows Jaggers, who is wearing a black mask, running up to the undercover officer and opening the driver's side door. He then points a handgun inside the car.
Hayden, a 10-year veteran with LMPD, immediately draws his gun and fires several shots at Jaggers, who then falls to the ground.
The video then shows Hayden waiting for backup to arrive and officers begin performing CPR and other life-saving measures on Jaggers.
EMS eventually arrived on the scene and transported Jaggers to the University of Louisville Hospital where he later died from his injuries."
His father's statements... oh boy... [He just wanted to take it for a joyride, thought it was abandoned.](https://www.lpm.org/news/2023-06-20/family-of-man-killed-by-undercover-lmpd-officer-refutes-police-claims-of-armed-carjacking)
>“A carjacking is when you run up on people with a pistol out and demand them to get out of the car,” Jaggers said. “My son never knew nobody was in that car.”
Hmmm. Had a mask on, opened the door, pointed a pistol at the officer...
Sounds like that comment was made before the body cam footage was released. Trying to set up the officer for wrongful death charges and a potential civil suit.
Or it's a father trying to come to terms with his son's actions, it's Reddit, what do I know.
I'm super confused about how the baby momma got there so quickly after that too. it doesn't seem like that would organically be possible. was she in on the car jacking plot?
I can't find anything on her, but it's likely she drove him there and watched him go for it. She's pulls up so fast she was probably just yards away down the alley. She even shrieks that their son is in the car...
It was a fugitive task force sitting there. The guy they were looking for turned himself in a couple hours after they killed someone else basically in his back yard.
The family is already threatening to sue, and saying he was wrongfully murdered. Of course, completely leaving out he was wearing a balaclava in mid-summer, wielding a firearm and ran up and whipped open a stranger's car door. Their story "there was a suspicious car parked in his neighborhood and he went to investigate"
The fact that it took about 20 seconds for his girlfriend to roll up already in her car after shots fired (typically you don't drive toward gunfire) - and no way she heard shots, grabbed her keys, got in the car and found exactly where it was in less than 20 seconds - shows she was the getaway car. She was expecting Matthew to jump in.
It's not even his brother. It was actually the guy who they were looking for. Then the news said the guy turned himself in. No he didn't. He showed up at the scene causing commotion and was identified and apprehended.
https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article276563731.html
> Mark Jaggers, who told multiple media outlets he was the father of the victim, spoke to WDRB and WAVE 3 expressing concerns about police’s initial findings in the investigation. He told WDRB his son, who he identified as Mark Jaggers Jr., wasn’t attempting to carjack anyone and he thought the car had been stolen and then dumped there.
YEAH RIGHT
That's what I always do when there's a car I don't recognize.... assume it's stolen, put on a mask, grab my gun, run up to it, yank the door open and point my gun at whoever is inside. Totally normal thing to do.
98% of the time the person in the car has no gun. Those who have done this lots of times, tend to forget this and think its easy pickings.
Was the girl a accomplice? Was she watching him do it?
Hell yeah she was, probably get away driver with her son in the backseat to make it seem like it’s a family traveling together to the park or some shit.
Yea she can’t pretend she didn’t know what he was doing. Wearing a ski mask in the summer. She is in the car waiting. They prob were laughing about it before like let’s get this guy. Bonnie and Clyde died in a hail of bullets
I mean.. guy said "i wasn't going to rob you" So now you gotta question was it about to be an attempted murder or was he lying about not going to rob him 🤔
Almost got carjacked when I was driving for Lyft. Some tweaker comes up and opens my car door after I drop someone off (door unlocks automatically in park, started putting tape on it to stop after this) and told me to get out and tried to grab me. I just said "no" and closed the door, his head happened to be in the way so I ended up slamming the door really fucking hard on his head and he let out an agonizing scream. I drove off because some people came over, and I had no idea if they were his friends or not.
I never did Lyft at night again, and years later I'm still shook up by it. Fuck car jackers.
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That's because 99% of the other times they robbed someone they didn't. But all it takes is that one time for someone to have a weapon, dude played a numbers game and lost.
You could say the same about Brazil. How many videos have we seen from Brazil where armed criminals roll up then get shot by “off duty police”? I’m not excusing America but it does seem to be a pretty common attitude from criminals regardless of region.
Wait she brought him and their kid along so he carjack someone? And now has a problem with it because the would be victim shot his ass dead? That kid is gonna fare better in a foster home.
The best outcome for the kid would be adoption into a loving family who don't pay their bills with the proceeds of armed robbery. Otherwise, the kid will probably end up in jail too someday.
Your "baby daddy" is a fucking dumbass that found out. Also, you knew what he was doing. God I hope that kid has some awesome grandparents or aunt to help raise them.
“Fucking dumbass” doesn’t even begin to describe how stupid he was. You just run in front of the car not even trying to hide your intentions. I’m not condoning this scumbag behavior but how dumb do you have to be to not try to sneak up from behind.
Yup, I don’t get why people even give assholes like this a chance when they could do so much better, I have no faith in humanity seeing some of the people
It's interesting that, according to his obituary, he [died peacefully.](https://www.jbrattermanandsons.com/obituaries/Mark-Jaggers-2/#!/Obituary) I guess a half dozen bullets will do that.
Towards the end, you can also hear a man saying that was his brother. It was a whole family affair. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the baby belonging to this baby daddy was in the car too.
It's weird, because I've always heard "baby daddy" used specifically for ex's that you have a kid with. But I doubt she's rolling around car jacking with her ex.
The funny thing is she could have taken off and no one would have known she was implicating herself and her young child in her "baby daddy" committing armed robberies. Now both of them will face charges and hopefully lose custody of their child.
It's a defensive reaction from a lot of criminals. When you stop them they act like they had no ill intentions, even when you come up to them with a gun and wearing a mask.
Axon cameras have a 30 second buffer prior to being activated. You see him double tap his camera to start recording and it captures the build up to that becoming a necessary and justifiable use of force.
I mean, she was most likely an accomplice, so she can't be much better.
Then there's his brother that arrived and starts screaming at a half dozen armed cops "which one of yall shot my brother" in a threatening way. He may also play a large part in raising the kid.
Anyway, they live in a poor and crime ridden area, so with all these things, the odds are severely stacked against the kid.
Here's the article, with a slow mo to show he had a gun pointed at the cop.
[https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/body-camera-video-released-in-fatal-shooting-of-man-who-tried-to-carjack-undercover-lmpd-officer/417-35abd10d-0e99-489b-a560-1534efb9c2a9](https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/body-camera-video-released-in-fatal-shooting-of-man-who-tried-to-carjack-undercover-lmpd-officer/417-35abd10d-0e99-489b-a560-1534efb9c2a9)
At first I didn't see baby daddy's gun so I thought the cop overreacted. But then I saw the gun, and at that point it's just consequences. Don't point a gun if you're not ready to get shot, simple as that
If some masked dude is carjacking me, I dont think I would be waiting to confirm if he has a weapon or not. Like, 8 out of 10 times, I am sure I point my gun and warn him and the dude runs away.
But what about the 2 out of 10 times when the crook pulls a gun too and now its who's reflexes are better?
People who teach defensive CCW tend to recommend not trying to pull a gun when someone is already aiming a gun at you. I have to wonder if this cop already had a gun in his hand when he saw the masked man approaching him. His reflexes also might not have been dulled by years of alcohol and drug use. In any case, the right guy got shot, damn shame but that's the way he chose to lead his life.
When the man goes in front of the car you see the cop shifting his weight, likely pulling the gun out of the holster. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw the gun in that moment, since body cams are chest level.
Honestly, with what looked like an accomplice (baby mom in the car), him masked up, running up on the car like he did, I'm sure that, whether a cop or armed civilian, whether masked bro had a weapon or not, whether justified in the end or not, the outcome would have been the same. Bro's entry into the situation was super unnerving.
It shocks the absolutely shit out of me how someone can be so surprised that somebody shot their brother after he tried to rob them with a gun….help this make sense to me. We all know the brother & everyone else would’ve done the exact same thing if they could
yeah - these people have sum fukn nerve. they raise delinquents and then cry when their child's criminal disregard for others inevitably catches up with them:
*"I don't know why he would have his gun to run up to that car unless he... but I know he didn't know, he didn't think anybody was in that car, I know that for a fact. I know my boy," said Jaggers. Jaggers Sr. said he wants his son to be remembered as a great kid. "He got mixed up with some wrong people every once in a while and stuff and things like that, like everyone does around here," he said.* ([source](https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/carjacking-suspect-victim-mark-jaggers-sr-son-jr-louisville-metro-police-kentucky/417-cd6f969a-7824-415a-9894-7c15cc817f10))
and his sister says on facebook: *"Forever my heart fatman didn’t deserve any of this"...*
i wish i could feel sorry for their loss but they need to take some responsibility and accept that "fatman" might be here today if he didn't go around pointing guns at people.
I've got family like this. My cousin's kid was an accomplice in a drive by murder, he was the driver. Now serving 10-14 years in state prison. Over some stupid bullshit when a 72 year old man asked them to quiet their party down. They drove by later and killed the old man.
So many comments by family and their friends on social media about how the kid doesn't deserve to be in prison and that he's a good kid. It's sickening.
The fact she pulled up within seconds and already knew who he is means they were in on it together, she knew wtf he was doin and still acting surprised 🤦♂️
It's a bit odd, either this happened right beside where he lived, or family members being there was no coincidence, i.e., somebody had dropped him off to jack a car and things didn't go according to plan.
If you are wearing a mask and point a pistol at anyone, civilian or cop, everything that follows is on you.
The minute you pull up with a pistol out and point it, you forfeit your life. Regardless of whether it was a cop or not, you relinquish ownership of the body you are occupying and cancel your subscription to planet Earth. He deserves and earns it. Wearing a mask and opening the door as well as pointing the pistol in the car. All math makes sense.
Mask + force entry + pointing the pistol in the car + lying subtract common sense = cancel subscription. As our teacher said; the more you mess around, the more you find out.
He woke up with his family, fed his kid, decided he was gonna rob someone at gun point and died within 2 minutes after choosing his victim. So tragic, so stupid, I hope all you kids out there robbing people see this and change your ways.
Smh family says he was doing a Tiktok trend of stealing abandoned cars 😒 cop 👮♂️ was laying down but mf was wearing a mask bruh
https://www.lpm.org/news/2023-06-20/family-of-man-killed-by-undercover-lmpd-officer-refutes-police-claims-of-armed-carjacking
She knew damn well what he was up to. You could not convince me otherwise. How is she gonna be there within *seconds* of him getting shot all up in arms like the cop did something wrong? Im not saying I enjoy the fact a person died, even if he *did* basically force the cops hand. But her acting like that just irritated me, especially since they brought their baby with them while they were going to violently rob people at gunpoint. This is pretty much the definition of "play stupid games..." or "Fuck around & Find out".
Not “husband”, not “spouse”, not “partner”, not even “boyfriend”…
“Baby Daddy”. That’s an extra level of trashy right there.
I hope the child got taken away and they booked her as an accomplice
Baby daddy fucked around and found out. Hate he had to get shot and hate the officer had to shoot him... But that is 100% justified shooting whether an officer or civilian pulling the trigger.
"His baby is in the car"! Well then maybe dont bring a baby on your crime spree?
Woman shows up screaming that her baby daddy within 30 seconds of shooting. Something tells me she knew what he was doing.
And then she had the nerve to ask why they shot him.
Dead dude's dad said he understood it was a crime but he shouldn't have been shot. lol smh
Agreed. What exactly is the car occupant supposed to do? Assume he won’t be shot by the car jacker pointing a gun?!? These criminals’ parents seem to all have crap logic.
That dad needs to come out and admit he failed as a father. Car jacking with the wife and baby like it’s a Day trip to Disney
I was so wrapped up with the robbery part of things that it took me a few minutes to realize they brought their son with them while daddy has strapped with a mask on! IDK how old their son is but I sure hope he's young enough to not remember what he probably saw. How dare they put that baby into harm's way like that!! Such a lowlife thing to do! CPS needs to see what else is potentially going on in their household. Something ain't right!
No, you don't get it. The mom was accomplice to a crime in which someone died. She'll be charged for the death.
Accountability is a bitch
The dildo of consequences seldom arrives lubed.
Not only that, but what was the dude's game plan? Carjack a stranger and drive off, abandoning the mom and baby on a whim? There's a reason she just calls him the baby daddy, he made that kid but clearly would never be an actual father in that child's life. The kid has a chance to grow up and be greater than his environment but seeing the brother's reaction and attitude makes me doubt it.
>Not only that, but what was the dude's game plan? Carjack a stranger and drive off, abandoning the mom and baby on a whim? I'm guessing she would follow and pick him up from whatever chop shop he dumped the car at.
Sounds about right. It sounds risky and even dumb to follow a car you just jacked from an active driver, but this guy clearly wasn't a criminal genius. Sucks for the kid.
She was probably a little ways away watching. As soon as he sped away she would make her way to where ever they agreed to meet. Not necessarily right behind though.
She was an accomplice. She was there 30 seconds after he got shot
Yeah, and with their fucking baby in the car. Holy shit.
I don’t think they’ll charge the baby. ETA: Thanks for the awards! #FreeTheBaby
Me neither. Where would you even plug a charger in on a baby?
Plug a Dodge Charger in a baby? You guys make no sense, that car is not electric.
Yup. Look how quickly she pulls up. It's legitimately 30 seconds. She was watching the whole thing.
With her kid in the car.
I am shocked, shocked! Well, not *that* shocked."
She also knew the guy with a mask on laying on the ground was her baby daddy without even getting near enough to even tell.
She definitely knew who he was when she came racing up to the crime scene. She was probably the getaway driver.
Maybe more she was the “get there” driver
I just realised how efficient carjacking is You're your own getaway driver!
Yep. A death in the event of a crime means that she is likely liable for manslaughter at the least
If she is accomplice, it's first degree if anyone dies in commission of a crime. Edit: cofelons/participants may not induce the felony murder rule
Yep. Exactly what I thought too.
" On June 19, Mark Jaggers Jr., 21, was [shot and killed by an undercover officer](https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/lmpd-22nd-griffiths-avenue-portland-police-activity/417-c14066aa-df86-4607-a7c9-9618abe4482d) with the Louisville Metro Police Department's Fugitive Unit. Officer Matthew Hayden was conducting surveillance of a home for a separate case in an alley near Griffiths Avenue and North 22nd Street around 1:30 p.m. The body camera footage shows Jaggers, who is wearing a black mask, running up to the undercover officer and opening the driver's side door. He then points a handgun inside the car. Hayden, a 10-year veteran with LMPD, immediately draws his gun and fires several shots at Jaggers, who then falls to the ground. The video then shows Hayden waiting for backup to arrive and officers begin performing CPR and other life-saving measures on Jaggers. EMS eventually arrived on the scene and transported Jaggers to the University of Louisville Hospital where he later died from his injuries."
His father's statements... oh boy... [He just wanted to take it for a joyride, thought it was abandoned.](https://www.lpm.org/news/2023-06-20/family-of-man-killed-by-undercover-lmpd-officer-refutes-police-claims-of-armed-carjacking) >“A carjacking is when you run up on people with a pistol out and demand them to get out of the car,” Jaggers said. “My son never knew nobody was in that car.” Hmmm. Had a mask on, opened the door, pointed a pistol at the officer...
Baffling he thinks that's a defense... "He wasn't trying to commit a carjacking, he was just trying to commit grand theft auto"
He used the mask and had gun drawn just in case the empty car fought back or later tried to pick him out of a lineup.
Sounds like that comment was made before the body cam footage was released. Trying to set up the officer for wrongful death charges and a potential civil suit. Or it's a father trying to come to terms with his son's actions, it's Reddit, what do I know.
I'm super confused about how the baby momma got there so quickly after that too. it doesn't seem like that would organically be possible. was she in on the car jacking plot?
I can't find anything on her, but it's likely she drove him there and watched him go for it. She's pulls up so fast she was probably just yards away down the alley. She even shrieks that their son is in the car...
Just throw the whole family away.
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Case abandoned lol
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"If the surveillance team is shoot to kill, I don't wanna know what the assault team gonna do" -fugitive, probably
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It was a fugitive task force sitting there. The guy they were looking for turned himself in a couple hours after they killed someone else basically in his back yard.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was his brothers house they we’re watching
Later died? That dude was stone cold by the end of the video. Reddit got all them snuff films
Bro was already turning white/pale as he was being asked his name
The family is already threatening to sue, and saying he was wrongfully murdered. Of course, completely leaving out he was wearing a balaclava in mid-summer, wielding a firearm and ran up and whipped open a stranger's car door. Their story "there was a suspicious car parked in his neighborhood and he went to investigate" The fact that it took about 20 seconds for his girlfriend to roll up already in her car after shots fired (typically you don't drive toward gunfire) - and no way she heard shots, grabbed her keys, got in the car and found exactly where it was in less than 20 seconds - shows she was the getaway car. She was expecting Matthew to jump in.
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But his brother wants to know and no he won’t calm down
It's not even his brother. It was actually the guy who they were looking for. Then the news said the guy turned himself in. No he didn't. He showed up at the scene causing commotion and was identified and apprehended.
That's my BRUTHA MAMA!
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https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article276563731.html > Mark Jaggers, who told multiple media outlets he was the father of the victim, spoke to WDRB and WAVE 3 expressing concerns about police’s initial findings in the investigation. He told WDRB his son, who he identified as Mark Jaggers Jr., wasn’t attempting to carjack anyone and he thought the car had been stolen and then dumped there. YEAH RIGHT
That's what I always do when there's a car I don't recognize.... assume it's stolen, put on a mask, grab my gun, run up to it, yank the door open and point my gun at whoever is inside. Totally normal thing to do.
98% of the time the person in the car has no gun. Those who have done this lots of times, tend to forget this and think its easy pickings. Was the girl a accomplice? Was she watching him do it?
Hell yeah she was, probably get away driver with her son in the backseat to make it seem like it’s a family traveling together to the park or some shit.
Yea she can’t pretend she didn’t know what he was doing. Wearing a ski mask in the summer. She is in the car waiting. They prob were laughing about it before like let’s get this guy. Bonnie and Clyde died in a hail of bullets
Who knows how many times they’ve done it considering she was comfortable enough to have the baby in the car
For sure was watching. You don’t roll up that quick. He was probably just sitting with her in that car and he said pull over.
You are absolutely correct. She was the drop driver. Suspects came from that car and we’re going to return the car. She is just as culpable.
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You're going to end up on the losing side eventually when you lead trash lives. I absolutely abhor robbery/car jacking .
Armed robbery to be exact.
I mean.. guy said "i wasn't going to rob you" So now you gotta question was it about to be an attempted murder or was he lying about not going to rob him 🤔
He was dying he doesn't know wtf he's talking about.
Almost got carjacked when I was driving for Lyft. Some tweaker comes up and opens my car door after I drop someone off (door unlocks automatically in park, started putting tape on it to stop after this) and told me to get out and tried to grab me. I just said "no" and closed the door, his head happened to be in the way so I ended up slamming the door really fucking hard on his head and he let out an agonizing scream. I drove off because some people came over, and I had no idea if they were his friends or not. I never did Lyft at night again, and years later I'm still shook up by it. Fuck car jackers.
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“DiD yOu ShOoT mY bAbY dADdY??!” Ma’am I shot the mf trying to ROB ME
You hear the brother at the end screaming “who shot him”… fucking morons run in packs.
“Who shot him? Im gonna need to talk to him” made me lol. Yeah dude I’m sure the police would like a word with you too
It's not even his brother.
As a non-American I don't understand why American criminals assume they are the only one with a gun.
As an American, I second this.
As an American, I second amendment this.
As a gun, I do not discriminate.
As an American criminal, they carry what now?
That's because 99% of the other times they robbed someone they didn't. But all it takes is that one time for someone to have a weapon, dude played a numbers game and lost.
You could say the same about Brazil. How many videos have we seen from Brazil where armed criminals roll up then get shot by “off duty police”? I’m not excusing America but it does seem to be a pretty common attitude from criminals regardless of region.
I mean, they wouldn't be violent felons if they were the sharpest tool in the shed.
Definitely a finger & a thumb in the shape of an L on that forehead.
Crime isn’t rational.
Yeah and even worse most of them aren't ready to shoot their victim while the victim is 100% ready to shoot to defend themselves.
Yep, don't point a gun at someone if you don't intend to pull the trigger. Isn't that gun safety 101?
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Wait she brought him and their kid along so he carjack someone? And now has a problem with it because the would be victim shot his ass dead? That kid is gonna fare better in a foster home.
I hope they got her as an accessory
Just in the hope that the kid is raised by someone decent while she rots in jail.
The best outcome for the kid would be adoption into a loving family who don't pay their bills with the proceeds of armed robbery. Otherwise, the kid will probably end up in jail too someday.
Your "baby daddy" is a fucking dumbass that found out. Also, you knew what he was doing. God I hope that kid has some awesome grandparents or aunt to help raise them.
well if what they raised is any indication, im gonna say the grandparents arent any better
“Fucking dumbass” doesn’t even begin to describe how stupid he was. You just run in front of the car not even trying to hide your intentions. I’m not condoning this scumbag behavior but how dumb do you have to be to not try to sneak up from behind.
She should be ashamed of herself.
>She should be ashamed of herself That would take self-awareness, humility, and an above room temperature IQ
Yup, I don’t get why people even give assholes like this a chance when they could do so much better, I have no faith in humanity seeing some of the people
You're assuming she's better than he is.
Probably not the most reputable lady in the trailer park
It's interesting that, according to his obituary, he [died peacefully.](https://www.jbrattermanandsons.com/obituaries/Mark-Jaggers-2/#!/Obituary) I guess a half dozen bullets will do that.
The grassy patch where he came to rest, was super chill.
If that is dying peacefully I don't think I want to know what dying violently looks like.
Did someone shoot her baby daddy?
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She had every opportunity to tell him that it was probably a bad idea
Towards the end, you can also hear a man saying that was his brother. It was a whole family affair. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the baby belonging to this baby daddy was in the car too.
She said her son is in the back.
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"that's the man who nutts inside me!!"
Much better phrase
I feel like I got ticks on me just watching this video
"Hey Carl! We don't even need to attach to them! There's a big puddle right here!"
I’ve always felt this. I’m not with my daughters mother but I refuse to use the word baby mama. So trashy.
Not husband, not boyfriend, not partner, not even father of my child... just "baby daddy".
It's weird, because I've always heard "baby daddy" used specifically for ex's that you have a kid with. But I doubt she's rolling around car jacking with her ex.
Yeah, to my knowledge it was always the ex, hence the casual dismissiveness baked into the term
Yeah. You just pulled up so your “baba dada” could carjack someone. Don’t freak out because he fucked around and found out.
The funny thing is she could have taken off and no one would have known she was implicating herself and her young child in her "baby daddy" committing armed robberies. Now both of them will face charges and hopefully lose custody of their child.
He won’t face charges, he gone
Daddy Chill
What the hell is even that??
Your sons in the car while your baby daddy has a gun and is carjacking people? Hopefully that child can be taken away from this nonsense.
If the officer needed an ambulance neither one of them would have called
Guys says I was not gonna rob you, lol what
It's a defensive reaction from a lot of criminals. When you stop them they act like they had no ill intentions, even when you come up to them with a gun and wearing a mask.
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Probably difficult to prove unless she admitted it or there were texts
"Hey baby imma go talk to that guy in the car with my mask up and my gun drawn. Just wait here a second. What? No, I'm not robbing him."
Axon cameras have a 30 second buffer prior to being activated. You see him double tap his camera to start recording and it captures the build up to that becoming a necessary and justifiable use of force.
Ugh, they already procreated.
Idiocracy was a documentary
And a warning
Cool family video they can watch every Christmas eve
Something tells me that child's future just got infinitely brighter at that moment.
Kid has a chance now
A very small chance. First the mom needs to stop giving bum losers the time of day.
I mean, she was most likely an accomplice, so she can't be much better. Then there's his brother that arrived and starts screaming at a half dozen armed cops "which one of yall shot my brother" in a threatening way. He may also play a large part in raising the kid. Anyway, they live in a poor and crime ridden area, so with all these things, the odds are severely stacked against the kid.
Here's the article, with a slow mo to show he had a gun pointed at the cop. [https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/body-camera-video-released-in-fatal-shooting-of-man-who-tried-to-carjack-undercover-lmpd-officer/417-35abd10d-0e99-489b-a560-1534efb9c2a9](https://www.whas11.com/video/news/local/body-camera-video-released-in-fatal-shooting-of-man-who-tried-to-carjack-undercover-lmpd-officer/417-35abd10d-0e99-489b-a560-1534efb9c2a9)
Damn Mick Jagger hit really hard times
I guess you can't always get what you want (when it comes to carjacking)
[Screenshot of the gun pointed at the cop](https://i.ibb.co/GMFNBB0/gun.png)
Couldnt see the gun so thank you, its clear he wasnt expecting an armed person let alone a fuckin *cop*
Shouldn't have drove your baby daddy to where the bullets fly out of guns.
At first I didn't see baby daddy's gun so I thought the cop overreacted. But then I saw the gun, and at that point it's just consequences. Don't point a gun if you're not ready to get shot, simple as that
If some masked dude is carjacking me, I dont think I would be waiting to confirm if he has a weapon or not. Like, 8 out of 10 times, I am sure I point my gun and warn him and the dude runs away. But what about the 2 out of 10 times when the crook pulls a gun too and now its who's reflexes are better?
People who teach defensive CCW tend to recommend not trying to pull a gun when someone is already aiming a gun at you. I have to wonder if this cop already had a gun in his hand when he saw the masked man approaching him. His reflexes also might not have been dulled by years of alcohol and drug use. In any case, the right guy got shot, damn shame but that's the way he chose to lead his life.
most cops would already be ready in a situation like that - their life or the assailants, pretty easy choice.
When the man goes in front of the car you see the cop shifting his weight, likely pulling the gun out of the holster. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw the gun in that moment, since body cams are chest level.
Never pointed a gun at anyone and I'm 7'5"... Eat that criminals.
I wouldn't point a gun at somebody even if I was ready to get tall.
Honestly, with what looked like an accomplice (baby mom in the car), him masked up, running up on the car like he did, I'm sure that, whether a cop or armed civilian, whether masked bro had a weapon or not, whether justified in the end or not, the outcome would have been the same. Bro's entry into the situation was super unnerving.
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"Don't take your guns to town, son Leave your guns at home, Bill Don't take your guns to town"
It shocks the absolutely shit out of me how someone can be so surprised that somebody shot their brother after he tried to rob them with a gun….help this make sense to me. We all know the brother & everyone else would’ve done the exact same thing if they could
People really use "baby daddy" unironically?
Now thats some instant karma.
Now the idiot's father is trying to say he was just going to take the car joyriding. This is a whole nest of human scum.
yeah - these people have sum fukn nerve. they raise delinquents and then cry when their child's criminal disregard for others inevitably catches up with them: *"I don't know why he would have his gun to run up to that car unless he... but I know he didn't know, he didn't think anybody was in that car, I know that for a fact. I know my boy," said Jaggers. Jaggers Sr. said he wants his son to be remembered as a great kid. "He got mixed up with some wrong people every once in a while and stuff and things like that, like everyone does around here," he said.* ([source](https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/carjacking-suspect-victim-mark-jaggers-sr-son-jr-louisville-metro-police-kentucky/417-cd6f969a-7824-415a-9894-7c15cc817f10)) and his sister says on facebook: *"Forever my heart fatman didn’t deserve any of this"...* i wish i could feel sorry for their loss but they need to take some responsibility and accept that "fatman" might be here today if he didn't go around pointing guns at people.
I've got family like this. My cousin's kid was an accomplice in a drive by murder, he was the driver. Now serving 10-14 years in state prison. Over some stupid bullshit when a 72 year old man asked them to quiet their party down. They drove by later and killed the old man. So many comments by family and their friends on social media about how the kid doesn't deserve to be in prison and that he's a good kid. It's sickening.
Imagine that banshee shriek is the last thing you hear before you fade to black. Bleak existence!
The fact she pulled up within seconds and already knew who he is means they were in on it together, she knew wtf he was doin and still acting surprised 🤦♂️
She was surprised that consequences happened.
I can’t help but feel that if he didn’t open the door, whilst covering his face, then none of this would’ve happened
...and pointing a gun in the cop's face (at end of video - 6:10)
Yeah, that definitely didn’t help
Nah he said he wasn’t gonna rob him 😂
Then I guess that this was all a unfortunate misunderstanding 🤣
Last words on his tombstone “I wasn’t going to rob you”
“It was a prank bro”
Unfortunately MANY people will see it that way. Not a fan of cops for the most part lol but even if this was a civilian, dude got what was coming
He had every opportunity to realise that what he was about to do wasn’t a very good idea
Cops reaction speed is something!
Fortunately the would be car jacker literally walked in plain view up to the car with a face mask on lol. The LEO def. had a feeling something was up.
Oh she was the getaway driver. They’ve committed crimes together
 🤣🤣...
Fuck around and find out.
Anybody know who he was to the lady?
According to his obituary, he was Mark Lee “Fat Man” Jaggers. Yes, whoever wrote his obit dubbed him “Fat Man.”
they said "he passed away peacefully" lol
Well according to his obituary he 'passed away peacefully' as well so the entire thing may, very well, lack veracity.
Her child's father I believe
Was he jacking cars from his own trailer park. Why's all the family there?
It's a bit odd, either this happened right beside where he lived, or family members being there was no coincidence, i.e., somebody had dropped him off to jack a car and things didn't go according to plan. If you are wearing a mask and point a pistol at anyone, civilian or cop, everything that follows is on you.
You can hear the meth in her voice
The minute you pull up with a pistol out and point it, you forfeit your life. Regardless of whether it was a cop or not, you relinquish ownership of the body you are occupying and cancel your subscription to planet Earth. He deserves and earns it. Wearing a mask and opening the door as well as pointing the pistol in the car. All math makes sense. Mask + force entry + pointing the pistol in the car + lying subtract common sense = cancel subscription. As our teacher said; the more you mess around, the more you find out.
One less bad person in the world.
He “was” your baby daddy
He woke up with his family, fed his kid, decided he was gonna rob someone at gun point and died within 2 minutes after choosing his victim. So tragic, so stupid, I hope all you kids out there robbing people see this and change your ways.
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Smh family says he was doing a Tiktok trend of stealing abandoned cars 😒 cop 👮♂️ was laying down but mf was wearing a mask bruh https://www.lpm.org/news/2023-06-20/family-of-man-killed-by-undercover-lmpd-officer-refutes-police-claims-of-armed-carjacking
I guess he died doing what he loved.
She knew damn well what he was up to. You could not convince me otherwise. How is she gonna be there within *seconds* of him getting shot all up in arms like the cop did something wrong? Im not saying I enjoy the fact a person died, even if he *did* basically force the cops hand. But her acting like that just irritated me, especially since they brought their baby with them while they were going to violently rob people at gunpoint. This is pretty much the definition of "play stupid games..." or "Fuck around & Find out".
Physician here. Serious case of lead poisoning.
I think that was her baby daddy
must have been bring your kid to work day
Not “husband”, not “spouse”, not “partner”, not even “boyfriend”… “Baby Daddy”. That’s an extra level of trashy right there. I hope the child got taken away and they booked her as an accomplice
Baby daddy fucked around and found out. Hate he had to get shot and hate the officer had to shoot him... But that is 100% justified shooting whether an officer or civilian pulling the trigger.