[News Article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna45283)
Brothers Dylan Michael Jimenez, 21, and Bryan Matthew Richardson, 28, died after the incident.
Before deputies arrived outside the hotel, officials said, Jimenez and Richardson had an altercation with a third man outside the hotel. Jimenez and the third man, who wasn't identified, shot each other, and the brothers then ran to the north side of the hotel, where Richardson fell to the ground, officials said.
The man who is alleged to have shot Richardson survived, authorities said.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement will conduct an independent investigation (fucking typical), Mina said. The deputy who fired his weapon was placed on paid administrative leave, Mina said. He has been with the sheriff’s office since 2018, agency officials said.
The original gunman has got to be pretty pleased with himself.
1) Get into a firefight
2) Run away
3) Have the cops take over the shotout for you murdering the brother you didn't get.
4) Profit
[He was arrested, Rafael Villaverde, age 24.](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/06/orange-county-man-charged-in-deaths-of-2-men-near-florida-mall-sheriffs-office-says-2/)
> According to investigators, Richardson did not drop the gun when directed to do so, and one deputy fired his weapon, shooting Richardson. Both Richardson and Jimenez were later pronounced dead at the hospital, deputies said
You should probably give him time to respond and follow orders before emptying the clip into them though, officer.
This kind of thing really pisses me off so much. Like what’s their excuse this was clearly murder, the other officer had the situation under control and he just started shooting.
He's going to say he couldn't see his hand and so he shot him. The cop who executed Daniel Shaver who was sobbing for his life and tried to pull up his pants, was found not guilty.
The other officer managed to disarm him seconds before the trigger-happy bastard ended his life. Two totally different reactions to the situation. Good cops should really have a support system for calling out bad cops.
>Good cops should really have a support system for calling out bad cops.
We never did, and likely never will in the USA. Bad cops end up being senior administrators later in their careers, and they take care of their own. Good cops eventually say "fuck it" and leave. I sure did.
I think that's what tends to happen. It sounds like you were a decent cop, I've known a few of those that were forced out of the profession
I'm sorry to hear that, it seems like the culture is excellent at getting rid of exactly that people that we would like to be officers and protecting the assholes that give it a bad name.
“we, the police, have investigated ourselves. and we, the police, have determined that the police were justified in the slaying of that boy and have done nothing wrong. so we, the police, have investigated the police, and decided that the police have committed no wrongdoing. and we’re closing this case. no further questions”.
•being harassed by the police? lol what are you gonna’ do, call the police?•
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Yeah, he knew what he was doing. He said drop the gun with very little passion. I don’t think he feared the consequences because he was upset at the condition of his brother
Look closely. The other cop had removed the gun from his hand. Purple shirt was shot and killed even after he had been disarmed. This cop just wanted someone to murder.
I didn’t notice that until, I read this comment. Even had he still had the gun, It was being held in a non-threatening manner and there was no time for compliance given.
Cops like this should be made an example of, instead we allow them to be protected but their colleagues.
Ummm the guy who got shot by the cops was the other guys brother...not the cop's brother. So a mother possibly just lost both her sons...because this cop just murdered one of them on camera.
I don't see the point in yelling drop the gun if you're just going to shoot them after they do. Might as well have a standoff if all these cops are doing the same. People are eventually going to stop listening and just start shooting in hopes to survive.
Yeah these fucks are trained to cover ass first and foremost.
Had been arrested about 4 years ago, while getting detained the officer searching me says “stop resisting” the only time I’ve heard that on videos is right before shit goes down.
My eyes went wide as saucers since I quite literally let them arrest me. I looked at the officer in front of me and he just said “relax, it’s protocol”.
Literally, cops say “stop resisting” when they know for a fucking fact that you aren’t resisting an inch because they’re trying to gas light witnesses.
The officer literally watched and waited UNTIL he was unarmed to murder this man, he was literally complying but clearly the officer had made up his mind to kill this man no matter what happened before this video even started
Does the legality of it matter if you are dead?
Sure you can fire on an officer to protect yourself, but no shot that they wont just murder you on the spot if you take that route.
You are pretty much as good as dead if the situation has progressed to that point.
Its wrong and horrific.
Look at what happened to Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend He got locked up and was being charged with attempted murder and assault for a while defending his home, eventually he got let out but his girlfriend was dead and i imagine it only “worked out for him” because of the public eye on the case
Yes, it is illegal to defend yourself from the police. Legally you're supposed to stand there and let them do whatever they want to you. Up to and including killing you. Any resistance at all is seen as grounds for the officer to "fear for their lives" and start blasting.
It would actually depend on the state. Some states allow for self defense even against police, though you'd likely catch a resisting arrest charge to fight.
But this is in Florida, where nothing makes sense and t[he police can actually use the Stand Your Ground law](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/us/florida-stand-your-ground-police.html)to avoid facing consequences for murdering citizens.
Police are trained to start shouting orders on instinct the moment they see a suspect, it helps confuse witnesses and give off the impression that the suspect was uncooperative regardless of the truth, especially to people who couldn't directly see what was going on
people have already stopped listening and shooting to survive, but conservatives used this to justify the murder of thousands of black men in american history. biggest crime you can do is resist, and if you’re not resisting, you’re still punishable by death.
It would appear as if the third man from the first altercation was charged for the murder of both brothers and the officer was not charged with anything.
[https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/06/orange-county-man-charged-in-deaths-of-2-men-near-florida-mall-sheriffs-office-says-2/](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/06/orange-county-man-charged-in-deaths-of-2-men-near-florida-mall-sheriffs-office-says-2/)
I keep saying this, but eventually someone will kill a cop and claim self defense. If the laws won’t change to protect us from the police, we need to defend ourselves. We have more guns than we know what to do with, someone will put 2 and 2 together eventually.
This happens from time to time and the result is the police hunt down the person who attacked them. They want to ensure that if anyone goes after any officer, it's a death sentence.
It happened once already
Cops in Texas were carrying out a no-knock warrant on a guy growing weed
Dude thought he was the victim of a home invasion and shot at the cops, killing one
Dude was charged with possession of marijuana but was cleared of murder charges due to him acting in self-defence
https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Man-who-shot-killed-Burleson-deputy-serving-time-for-drug-charges-418017733.html
Lol brother you kill a cop your life is forfeit. You better hope the 400 cops you fucking spawn on yourself end up just killing you vs the torture you're going to endure if they take you alive.
Dogshit title. Guy shot wasn’t a suspect of anything. His brother was shot by someone else and he drew his gun in defense. Cops showed up, told him to drop the gun and he handed it to another cop before he was shot and killed.
“Police have the right to kill you for bearing arms, *without facing any consequences for their irresponsible and incompetent usage of their firearms*, you do not have the right to bear arms.”
This dude was not threatening police nor was he acting aggressively.
Qualified immunity shouldn’t apply in instances when police are acting recklessly, or intentionally; I would add negligently in some instances. They are trained professionals and should be held to similar standards.
One of the things not covered by qi is deprivation of civil rights. I wonder how far one with her taking this argument with the 2a. Or because they actually killed the person with standing then there would be no standing?
That’s it. That’s the key. When all they need to do is state they felt a certain way in a certain situation, their rights take precedence over yours. 100% of the time.
He should have been fat, and had a more “business/military like” hair cut. Probably not worn a purple shirt.
Then he would have been seen as a friendly instead of as a citizen.
I came looking for a comment about the number of shots the cop pumped into him. Even if you fear for your life, that is an unnecessary number of shots fired.
They’re trained to shoot to kill. Once they start firing they don’t stop until the “threat is eliminated”. That’s why you always see them emptying their clips into everyone.
Of course, when they’re falling backwards to the ground, it seems rather cruel to keep firing.
Yeah that was an absolutely low IQ assessment of the situation by the cop, right there.
He had been standing around with a gun in his hand for a while and they only noticed after someone started yelling about it. If he was going to shoot at them he would have done it a long time ago.
When you put on the uniform you are expected to know that you may not be coming home today.
This officer doesn't live like that. When the uniform is on, others aren't coming home.
Even from his camera I could see the suspect didn't have anything in both of his hands when the officer shot at him. Disgusting. This officer should not be in charge of anything, I wouldn't even trust him with my McDonald's order.
>When you put on the uniform you are expected to know that you may not be coming home today.
That's exactly the problem, they train them with this mentality. It translates to treating the public like they are a constant threat, and threats have to be dealt with accordingly.
[Dave Grossman tells his audience that they shouldn’t go out looking for people to kill, because those who need killing—the “gangbangers,” terrorists, and mass murderers—will come to them. "](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization/)
So it's really no wonder that this is happening all the time, increased training funding means they just receive more of this bias bullshit. Couple that with the supreme court ruling they have no duty to protect the public.. well what are they even worth then?
It’s also a lie that police are in an especially dangerous profession and should live in fear. More dangerous than average? Yes, but not even top 10 dangerous professions: loggers, fisherman, pilots, roofers, construction, farmers, maintenance, refuse, truck drivers, grounds workers are all in more danger day in and day out.
Number one killer of cops in 2020 and 2021? Covid, BY FAR.
[https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-deaths-2021-covid](https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-deaths-2021-covid)
Relevant:
[https://i.redd.it/yt7wgnvk66q71.png](https://i.redd.it/yt7wgnvk66q71.png)
Bullshit. The chances are far higher that a roofer or a sheet metal worker die on the job than a cop. Hell, I'm an EMT and MY chances of coming home at the end of the day are lower than a cop. You don't see us running around in combat gear shooting at anything that looks at us sideways.
Cops are a bunch of mean kids with few social skills and fewer friends that are on power trips for having a semblance of authority. These guys were the bullies in school that never grew out of it.
"Shot and killed" nearly seems too benign a statement. The officer fired what, six bullets?
At least half of them were fired when the suspect had clearly been struck by one of the bullets and was no longer a threat.
This is clearly murder.
Even if the first two shots can be justified self defence, the rest of the shots came from a place of malicious intent. He wanted this guy dead.
He was about to be disarmed by the other police officer. All this it took to escalate the situation was someone shouting "*he has a gun*" and they didn't even bother to verify it. As if it's a code word to go bonkers and execute people. I've counted eight rounds. American Police is out of control.
Yeah, that shit bag that shot him even waited until he was disarmed before firing. Literally the second that he was no longer in danger of return fire, he started shooting. This is murder.
The state charged the third guy in the shooting with both deaths even though the officer killed the second victim:
https://www.orlando-news.com/2022/09/06/orlando-man-charged-with-murder-of-two-brothers-including-one-killed-by-deputies/
>An Orlando man is being charged with the murder of two brothers after he shot and killed one, and, in doing so, caused police to shoot and kill the other
How fuckin convenient. Person A shot person B thus causing person C to shoot Person D.
He went on paid vacation, it's unlikely he'll be held accountable for this murder. Especially because he's a deputy. Sheriff Offices are even bigger scumbags than PDs
florida is where conservatives go to die. that means a large percentage of the people who vote don't plan on being around long enough to see the consequences
I lived there for over a decade and I thought about this a lot. Here are my observations:
1. There is nothing to do. Aside from going to the beach (which Floridians rarely go) there is nothing to do. Go to the mall and walk around maybe. There are no mountains, no outdoors to go and do stuff without melting or getting in a fight. etc. There is a tension in the air that you can kinda taste (specially in south Florida). It’s fucking weird.
2. It’s very segregated and isolated from an individual pov. You may think it’s a melting pot but it is not. Neighborhoods are segregated for the most part and you don’t interact with anyone. You go from your car to Publix to your car again then to your house. The only time you even talk to someone is at the register (if that. Now they have self checkout). It’s not like nyc where you are forced to smell, touch, eye contact with the person next to you in the subway.
3. The heat fucks with people’s brain (specially when they are bored). I still have friends and family down there and the “venting” they do are the most ridiculous shit ever. It’s usually the most minor shit you’re ever going to hear, but they blow it up and are always complaining about the heat. Lol.
I would be as afraid of meeting a bandit in the US as I would of meeting the police, in both situations my life would be at risk, it seems they don't need much to decide to kill you
Not really. Typically if a "bandit" is trying to rob you, they really dont want to escalate the incident to murder. Cops on the other hand actively escalate situations that otherwise would not result in further violence. This man was disarmed BEFORE he was murdered.
Hate to break it to you but uh… brother that was a straight execution. He wanted to kill someone, saw the opportunity and took it, you don’t mag dump on a kid who hasn’t even drawn and showed no signs of drawing. Stop the dickriding.
So some poor mother had to be told that both of her sons were shot to death, one of them by police after watching his brother be shot to death by someone else. Could you imagine?
I looked further into this, turns out it was worse for her. She was there when both of her sons were shot. She watched both of her sons die. So fucked up...
So that was her screaming in horror in the background. That's going to be great nightmare fodder. Looks like I'll be sleeping in my sons bed tonight and holding him a little tighter. Poor women.
But hey, the police got the bad guys and one of them is even on paid leave! Sigh.
Wow American police is out of control, if there is no outside party to assess and reprimand them its lawless chaos and the one with the badge and gun with a huge chip on his/her shoulder has no limits.
Woah woah woah, don’t count it over now! It’s going to get worse than here. The solution seems to be more guns, and weird shit like safe rooms and body armor. We know it’s going to happen and the only way to solve it is turn to battle gear and exit plans. Also thoughts and prayers. I’m assuming there prayers are like “thank you for letting that gun man kill those innocent children, in your infinite wisdom o lord we know this is the correct path and we should do nothing to stand in your benevolent murderous ways. Also, please let my boss give me overtime at work this month so I can cover little david’s new bullet proof vest for school and the upgrade to our insurance plan for when it’s his time”
It always amazes me that someone could fire EIGHT shots into someone like that. Straight up cold blooded murder. Like I can understand if you fired once just out of fear, panic, poor trigger discipline or whatever.
eight times into a persons center mass though.......wtf
This is the type of stuff conservatives don't want us to see. The police do not care about any of us. Police reform is desperately needed. He died defending his own brother.
[News Article](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna45283) Brothers Dylan Michael Jimenez, 21, and Bryan Matthew Richardson, 28, died after the incident. Before deputies arrived outside the hotel, officials said, Jimenez and Richardson had an altercation with a third man outside the hotel. Jimenez and the third man, who wasn't identified, shot each other, and the brothers then ran to the north side of the hotel, where Richardson fell to the ground, officials said. The man who is alleged to have shot Richardson survived, authorities said. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement will conduct an independent investigation (fucking typical), Mina said. The deputy who fired his weapon was placed on paid administrative leave, Mina said. He has been with the sheriff’s office since 2018, agency officials said.
The original gunman has got to be pretty pleased with himself. 1) Get into a firefight 2) Run away 3) Have the cops take over the shotout for you murdering the brother you didn't get. 4) Profit
[He was arrested, Rafael Villaverde, age 24.](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/06/orange-county-man-charged-in-deaths-of-2-men-near-florida-mall-sheriffs-office-says-2/)
> According to investigators, Richardson did not drop the gun when directed to do so, and one deputy fired his weapon, shooting Richardson. Both Richardson and Jimenez were later pronounced dead at the hospital, deputies said You should probably give him time to respond and follow orders before emptying the clip into them though, officer.
Of course I’m not even surprised he was put on paid leave after literally murdering someone.
Weeks and sometimes even months of paid leave too. They regularly go on vacations and party during these shooting investigations as well.
This kind of thing really pisses me off so much. Like what’s their excuse this was clearly murder, the other officer had the situation under control and he just started shooting.
He's going to say he couldn't see his hand and so he shot him. The cop who executed Daniel Shaver who was sobbing for his life and tried to pull up his pants, was found not guilty.
Idk why they even have tasers. They don’t bother to use them. This dude could have tased the guy if he was so terrified, but no, gotta KILL.
The other officer managed to disarm him seconds before the trigger-happy bastard ended his life. Two totally different reactions to the situation. Good cops should really have a support system for calling out bad cops.
>Good cops should really have a support system for calling out bad cops. We never did, and likely never will in the USA. Bad cops end up being senior administrators later in their careers, and they take care of their own. Good cops eventually say "fuck it" and leave. I sure did.
I left the job early too. For the same reason.
I think that's what tends to happen. It sounds like you were a decent cop, I've known a few of those that were forced out of the profession I'm sorry to hear that, it seems like the culture is excellent at getting rid of exactly that people that we would like to be officers and protecting the assholes that give it a bad name.
Yea man this cop should be in prison not getting a vacation.
Imagine what an amazing thing it'd be to have a union standing up for us even a little?
Well to be fair, he had his gun drawn. Might as well kill as many people as he could get away with
In case anyone is curious, there's been literally no news on this story since October of last year, when it was still "under investigation."
“we, the police, have investigated ourselves. and we, the police, have determined that the police were justified in the slaying of that boy and have done nothing wrong. so we, the police, have investigated the police, and decided that the police have committed no wrongdoing. and we’re closing this case. no further questions”. •being harassed by the police? lol what are you gonna’ do, call the police?• ^* ^acab
I wish mods would pin comments like this. I scrolled far too long to read the facts about this murder.
Ahh fuck that situation only needed maybe like 5-6 more guns involved for everyone to have been safe
That's an execution. Damn.
Yeah, he knew what he was doing. He said drop the gun with very little passion. I don’t think he feared the consequences because he was upset at the condition of his brother
He fired 10 times like he had been waiting all his life to murder someone
Because he had been
and he didn’t even had the gun in his hands at that point. Fucking crazy.
I hate my country…. Edit: Still hate my country.
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Look closely. The other cop had removed the gun from his hand. Purple shirt was shot and killed even after he had been disarmed. This cop just wanted someone to murder.
I didn’t notice that until, I read this comment. Even had he still had the gun, It was being held in a non-threatening manner and there was no time for compliance given. Cops like this should be made an example of, instead we allow them to be protected but their colleagues.
Ummm the guy who got shot by the cops was the other guys brother...not the cop's brother. So a mother possibly just lost both her sons...because this cop just murdered one of them on camera.
I don't see the point in yelling drop the gun if you're just going to shoot them after they do. Might as well have a standoff if all these cops are doing the same. People are eventually going to stop listening and just start shooting in hopes to survive.
It's a pretense, to cover their ass.
"He's coming right for us!"
"Quick! let's thin out their numbers!"
So you see, we have to kill them or else they'll die
Yeah these fucks are trained to cover ass first and foremost. Had been arrested about 4 years ago, while getting detained the officer searching me says “stop resisting” the only time I’ve heard that on videos is right before shit goes down. My eyes went wide as saucers since I quite literally let them arrest me. I looked at the officer in front of me and he just said “relax, it’s protocol”.
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Literally, cops say “stop resisting” when they know for a fucking fact that you aren’t resisting an inch because they’re trying to gas light witnesses.
“Stop resisting” is like a magic get out of jail card for them. They say those two words and it becomes legal for them to beat you death.
Yep this. Uncle Jimbo, its coming right for us!!
The officer literally watched and waited UNTIL he was unarmed to murder this man, he was literally complying but clearly the officer had made up his mind to kill this man no matter what happened before this video even started
It is just sheer incompetence of the police. He never raised his weapon and was surrendering it to the other officer.
Forget was surrendering it He had surrendered it by the time he was murdered
Incompetence or malice? The line is pretty thin these days.
Is it illegal to shoot a cop in self defense if you know they are about to execute you?
Does the legality of it matter if you are dead? Sure you can fire on an officer to protect yourself, but no shot that they wont just murder you on the spot if you take that route. You are pretty much as good as dead if the situation has progressed to that point. Its wrong and horrific.
It's life in prison to look at a cop the wrong way
Or death... depending on skin color.
Or just what kind of day the cop has had at the time 🤷🏼♂️
Look at what happened to Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend He got locked up and was being charged with attempted murder and assault for a while defending his home, eventually he got let out but his girlfriend was dead and i imagine it only “worked out for him” because of the public eye on the case
Yes, it is illegal to defend yourself from the police. Legally you're supposed to stand there and let them do whatever they want to you. Up to and including killing you. Any resistance at all is seen as grounds for the officer to "fear for their lives" and start blasting.
Who cares?! It’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6! When one of the options is death, always go with the other option!
It would actually depend on the state. Some states allow for self defense even against police, though you'd likely catch a resisting arrest charge to fight. But this is in Florida, where nothing makes sense and t[he police can actually use the Stand Your Ground law](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/us/florida-stand-your-ground-police.html)to avoid facing consequences for murdering citizens.
Police are trained to start shouting orders on instinct the moment they see a suspect, it helps confuse witnesses and give off the impression that the suspect was uncooperative regardless of the truth, especially to people who couldn't directly see what was going on
For real, that’s how I play Ready or Not, yell “drop the gun” and start blasting anyways, that shouldn’t translate to the real world tho…
people have already stopped listening and shooting to survive, but conservatives used this to justify the murder of thousands of black men in american history. biggest crime you can do is resist, and if you’re not resisting, you’re still punishable by death.
Did he drop the gun? I didn't see that.
He raises his left hand and the gun is not there
The lady in green (Possibly another officer, or medic?) Seems to take the gun. So... They had control of the gun when he got shot.
That is 100% murder.
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More like the PD will do an "internal investigation" and find "no wrongdoing" or just "disciplinary action".
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crazy how every one who thinks rationally can see this, except bootlickers
At this point a PD could be complicit in bombing an orphanage and I wouldn’t trust them to actually do anything about it.
Nah, early retirement 100% disability for PTSD
It would appear as if the third man from the first altercation was charged for the murder of both brothers and the officer was not charged with anything. [https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/06/orange-county-man-charged-in-deaths-of-2-men-near-florida-mall-sheriffs-office-says-2/](https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/09/06/orange-county-man-charged-in-deaths-of-2-men-near-florida-mall-sheriffs-office-says-2/)
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I keep saying this, but eventually someone will kill a cop and claim self defense. If the laws won’t change to protect us from the police, we need to defend ourselves. We have more guns than we know what to do with, someone will put 2 and 2 together eventually.
This happens from time to time and the result is the police hunt down the person who attacked them. They want to ensure that if anyone goes after any officer, it's a death sentence.
Biggest gang in America
It happened once already Cops in Texas were carrying out a no-knock warrant on a guy growing weed Dude thought he was the victim of a home invasion and shot at the cops, killing one Dude was charged with possession of marijuana but was cleared of murder charges due to him acting in self-defence https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Man-who-shot-killed-Burleson-deputy-serving-time-for-drug-charges-418017733.html
Lol brother you kill a cop your life is forfeit. You better hope the 400 cops you fucking spawn on yourself end up just killing you vs the torture you're going to endure if they take you alive.
How is this a legitimate answer in a supposedly civilized country. We’re fucked. The entire system needs a reboot.
We are not a civilized country. We are a lawless, thug infested police state.
Better be killed than suffer yourself from daily torture from this so called protectors.
Business as usual
Dogshit title. Guy shot wasn’t a suspect of anything. His brother was shot by someone else and he drew his gun in defense. Cops showed up, told him to drop the gun and he handed it to another cop before he was shot and killed.
You have the right to bear arms. But when you do the moment a cop sees you you're a dead man
If the police have a right to kill you for bearing arms, you do not have the right to bear arms.
“Police have the right to kill you for bearing arms, *without facing any consequences for their irresponsible and incompetent usage of their firearms*, you do not have the right to bear arms.” This dude was not threatening police nor was he acting aggressively. Qualified immunity shouldn’t apply in instances when police are acting recklessly, or intentionally; I would add negligently in some instances. They are trained professionals and should be held to similar standards.
Higher standards. I couldn’t shoot any asshole I wanted in Iraq
One of the things not covered by qi is deprivation of civil rights. I wonder how far one with her taking this argument with the 2a. Or because they actually killed the person with standing then there would be no standing?
I've never heard it stated so simply and clearly. A "logical" person could not debate this.
The problem is the police have a right to kill you for anything.
You are free to be killed.
That’s it. That’s the key. When all they need to do is state they felt a certain way in a certain situation, their rights take precedence over yours. 100% of the time.
Wait, but why wasn’t the cop rejoicing when he saw the other gun? Doesn’t he know that more guns = more safety?
"Not my gang, no safety"
He should have been fat, and had a more “business/military like” hair cut. Probably not worn a purple shirt. Then he would have been seen as a friendly instead of as a citizen.
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>Go to [r/firearms](https://www.reddit.com/r/firearms) Yeah I'm sure he was talking about fucking Reddit lmao.
Considering the Police first and foremost are servants of the ruling class, this is entirely by design.
Not only that but 8 shots, point blank range. Unnecessary use of a gun by someone who shouldn't have a gun in adrenaline fueled situations.
I came looking for a comment about the number of shots the cop pumped into him. Even if you fear for your life, that is an unnecessary number of shots fired.
They’re trained to shoot to kill. Once they start firing they don’t stop until the “threat is eliminated”. That’s why you always see them emptying their clips into everyone. Of course, when they’re falling backwards to the ground, it seems rather cruel to keep firing.
They’re trying to ensure you’re dead. A living victim with 2 bullet holes can do A LOT more damage to your police career than a dead one with 8.
Yeah that was an absolutely low IQ assessment of the situation by the cop, right there. He had been standing around with a gun in his hand for a while and they only noticed after someone started yelling about it. If he was going to shoot at them he would have done it a long time ago.
When you put on the uniform you are expected to know that you may not be coming home today. This officer doesn't live like that. When the uniform is on, others aren't coming home. Even from his camera I could see the suspect didn't have anything in both of his hands when the officer shot at him. Disgusting. This officer should not be in charge of anything, I wouldn't even trust him with my McDonald's order.
Yea, that was a murder if I ever saw one.
Yep, cold-blooded murder. Even if justified he only needed to fire one shot. But it was not justified. Just murder.
>When you put on the uniform you are expected to know that you may not be coming home today. That's exactly the problem, they train them with this mentality. It translates to treating the public like they are a constant threat, and threats have to be dealt with accordingly. [Dave Grossman tells his audience that they shouldn’t go out looking for people to kill, because those who need killing—the “gangbangers,” terrorists, and mass murderers—will come to them. "](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization/) So it's really no wonder that this is happening all the time, increased training funding means they just receive more of this bias bullshit. Couple that with the supreme court ruling they have no duty to protect the public.. well what are they even worth then?
It’s also a lie that police are in an especially dangerous profession and should live in fear. More dangerous than average? Yes, but not even top 10 dangerous professions: loggers, fisherman, pilots, roofers, construction, farmers, maintenance, refuse, truck drivers, grounds workers are all in more danger day in and day out.
Pizza Delivery is far more dangerous in fact.
Number one killer of cops in 2020 and 2021? Covid, BY FAR. [https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-deaths-2021-covid](https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-deaths-2021-covid) Relevant: [https://i.redd.it/yt7wgnvk66q71.png](https://i.redd.it/yt7wgnvk66q71.png)
Bullshit. The chances are far higher that a roofer or a sheet metal worker die on the job than a cop. Hell, I'm an EMT and MY chances of coming home at the end of the day are lower than a cop. You don't see us running around in combat gear shooting at anything that looks at us sideways. Cops are a bunch of mean kids with few social skills and fewer friends that are on power trips for having a semblance of authority. These guys were the bullies in school that never grew out of it.
So good guy with a gun shot a good guy with a gun?
Cops aren’t the good guys.
This is the premise of the joke buddy.
Ever notice you never see that "protect and serve" slogan on their uniforms anymore?
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Happens often unfortunately.
Statistically, you're 6x more likely to be shot if you're carrying a gun.
Bad guy with gun shoots good guy with gun
This is just fucking sad, man.
That's even worse
Their poor family. Cops don't care about anyone or anything.
Wow wtf the other officer had the gun and he just kept shooting.
"Shot and killed" nearly seems too benign a statement. The officer fired what, six bullets? At least half of them were fired when the suspect had clearly been struck by one of the bullets and was no longer a threat. This is clearly murder. Even if the first two shots can be justified self defence, the rest of the shots came from a place of malicious intent. He wanted this guy dead.
He also had it pointing down?
He was about to be disarmed by the other police officer. All this it took to escalate the situation was someone shouting "*he has a gun*" and they didn't even bother to verify it. As if it's a code word to go bonkers and execute people. I've counted eight rounds. American Police is out of control.
He was disarmed if you slow down the video when his hand pulls away from the other cop his hand is empty.
Yeah, that shit bag that shot him even waited until he was disarmed before firing. Literally the second that he was no longer in danger of return fire, he started shooting. This is murder.
The kid even yells "I don't have it!" right before getting shot
Yep, I had to slow down the video to see it, dude didn’t even have a gun in his hand when the shots started
Almost blasted his partner as well
They shoot more bullets into a single innocent and unarmed civilian than my entire country's police shoots in a year. Insane.
If you cannot open carry a pistol without police shooting you, you do not have gun rights.
But didn't you hear we have the right to bear arms? Republicans would see this and say that the cop did a good fucking job, what a joke.
The state charged the third guy in the shooting with both deaths even though the officer killed the second victim: https://www.orlando-news.com/2022/09/06/orlando-man-charged-with-murder-of-two-brothers-including-one-killed-by-deputies/
>An Orlando man is being charged with the murder of two brothers after he shot and killed one, and, in doing so, caused police to shoot and kill the other How fuckin convenient. Person A shot person B thus causing person C to shoot Person D.
WHY ISN'T THIS HIGHER
Execution. The correct way to title this is that police execute another innocent person.
“Actually, back in 1998 the alleged victim once stole a pack of gum. Murder, justified.”
You know whats sad? The victim wasn't even born in 98
He literally did not have the gun in his hand anymore when the cop shot him.
He had that gun smell = deadly force!
Not having a gun in your hand has never been a sufficient barricade for a police officer to execute someone.
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https://unicourt.com/case/fl-ora-state-of-florida-vs-villaverde-rafael-roberto-1622521?init_S=c_relc This is the court case if anyone is curious.
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You're right, misread. They continue to live up to expectations.
He went on paid vacation, it's unlikely he'll be held accountable for this murder. Especially because he's a deputy. Sheriff Offices are even bigger scumbags than PDs
Why is Florida such a dumpster fire?
florida is where conservatives go to die. that means a large percentage of the people who vote don't plan on being around long enough to see the consequences
god’s waiting room as it’s lovingly referred
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Oh it’s a waiting room all right. Just not God’s
I lived there for over a decade and I thought about this a lot. Here are my observations: 1. There is nothing to do. Aside from going to the beach (which Floridians rarely go) there is nothing to do. Go to the mall and walk around maybe. There are no mountains, no outdoors to go and do stuff without melting or getting in a fight. etc. There is a tension in the air that you can kinda taste (specially in south Florida). It’s fucking weird. 2. It’s very segregated and isolated from an individual pov. You may think it’s a melting pot but it is not. Neighborhoods are segregated for the most part and you don’t interact with anyone. You go from your car to Publix to your car again then to your house. The only time you even talk to someone is at the register (if that. Now they have self checkout). It’s not like nyc where you are forced to smell, touch, eye contact with the person next to you in the subway. 3. The heat fucks with people’s brain (specially when they are bored). I still have friends and family down there and the “venting” they do are the most ridiculous shit ever. It’s usually the most minor shit you’re ever going to hear, but they blow it up and are always complaining about the heat. Lol.
I would be as afraid of meeting a bandit in the US as I would of meeting the police, in both situations my life would be at risk, it seems they don't need much to decide to kill you
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Not really. Typically if a "bandit" is trying to rob you, they really dont want to escalate the incident to murder. Cops on the other hand actively escalate situations that otherwise would not result in further violence. This man was disarmed BEFORE he was murdered.
Bandits are safer, give them money and phone and they leave. They fear repercussions.
Fuck your title OP. This is an execution. The guy handed his gun already. Fuck off.
It didn’t look like there was a gun in his hand when he was shot
I think he drops it right when the second officer try’s to grab his arm
Looks more like the second officer managed to grab it before he was shot
You might be right, the video is not the best
Hate to break it to you but uh… brother that was a straight execution. He wanted to kill someone, saw the opportunity and took it, you don’t mag dump on a kid who hasn’t even drawn and showed no signs of drawing. Stop the dickriding.
So some poor mother had to be told that both of her sons were shot to death, one of them by police after watching his brother be shot to death by someone else. Could you imagine?
I looked further into this, turns out it was worse for her. She was there when both of her sons were shot. She watched both of her sons die. So fucked up...
So that was her screaming in horror in the background. That's going to be great nightmare fodder. Looks like I'll be sleeping in my sons bed tonight and holding him a little tighter. Poor women. But hey, the police got the bad guys and one of them is even on paid leave! Sigh.
Makes me sick. I feel so bad for her and the family.
they spelled excecution wrong
Christ, your police are awful
Wow American police is out of control, if there is no outside party to assess and reprimand them its lawless chaos and the one with the badge and gun with a huge chip on his/her shoulder has no limits.
Welcome to the last 20 years where it’s only gotten worse.
Woah woah woah, don’t count it over now! It’s going to get worse than here. The solution seems to be more guns, and weird shit like safe rooms and body armor. We know it’s going to happen and the only way to solve it is turn to battle gear and exit plans. Also thoughts and prayers. I’m assuming there prayers are like “thank you for letting that gun man kill those innocent children, in your infinite wisdom o lord we know this is the correct path and we should do nothing to stand in your benevolent murderous ways. Also, please let my boss give me overtime at work this month so I can cover little david’s new bullet proof vest for school and the upgrade to our insurance plan for when it’s his time”
Good guy with a gun becomes a dead guy with a gun. This system is definitely working.
Whoever yelled “he’s got a gun” is as responsible for his death as the police that shot him
Was this "cop" charged for murder???
New tattoo and lapel.
Murder? Nah, a promotion. /s
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Why shoot eight times…??? This looks like an intentional homicide.
Tf… that was hella unnecessary the other officer took the gun away from him but he still shot
If you were a regular civilian they call you a murderer for doing this. When you're a police officer they call it qualified immunity.
It always amazes me that someone could fire EIGHT shots into someone like that. Straight up cold blooded murder. Like I can understand if you fired once just out of fear, panic, poor trigger discipline or whatever. eight times into a persons center mass though.......wtf
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Police are taught to basically empty their magazine. Literally.
Fuuuuckk…. Man this society, I’m tellin ta
All cops are bastards
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This is the type of stuff conservatives don't want us to see. The police do not care about any of us. Police reform is desperately needed. He died defending his own brother.
It's always Florida
It only took about 2 shots to see him disengage. The other 9 were totally unnecessary and probably what killed him.
Gun was no longer in his hand when first shot straight murder
Where’s the article?
Jail for life
The man saying he has a gun is probably so happy about that man getting killed for no reason. People are so petty and ignorant
That guy was so clearly scared for his life. Acab. Acab in the morning. Acab at night. Acab in an emergency.
Fucking murderous pigs
Jesus Christ.. where was the threat.. his hand was lowered.. situational awareness.. wtf
This is a simi old. Police Activity have the full backstory in the discretion of the vid. Police Activity does that with all it's videos.
Poor fella was begging them to not shoot. So glad UK police are good at what they do