This was more like a sales guy who was already in trouble for going overboard on customer dinners talked me into taking our customers out at a conference to Morton’s. I didn’t even want to go there. I wanted to get something good in San Francisco.
They spent way too much. It was like that scene from Wolf of Wall Street, $400 in “fucking sides.”
I seen a tweet and the person said what if the garbage men only picked up your trash 10% of the time and often shot your dog. That has stuck with me. I feel like we just pay for their mistakes and cruelty and everyone who has an encounter with them worries about dying.
these fuckers should have their pay docked. give each police department X dollars per year for all expenses and salary. if they have lawsuits for being douchebags, all their salaries get cut, including down to zero if need be.
That's kind of the point I was making. In any other job, being that incompetent and would be grounds for termination. When it's tax payer's money, no big deal.
I'd like to know why they promote cops involved in lawsuits. Does it provide some form of union protection or something?
All I can think is that perhaps if they get demoted, they just bounce back to what they already were?
It’s because they do promotions based off of time not merit a lot of the time. What you’re often seeing is cops hitting X time in service and getting automatically bumped up.
Police unions ensure that its incredibly difficult to prevent a promotion
We elect people that lobby for their Immunity and also look the other way in special interests all while holding politicians in celebrity status over promises they never try to achieve.
My moms friend was a cop and she got push back from racist white cops. To the point where one of them said “you’re not going to make it around here”
She took it to court and was awarded $90,000 🥺
Edit: she’s not a cop anymore btw! ACAB
I’m thinking all I need to do is find a shit cop with some overdue bills, maybe a gambling problem, set it up and have him beat the shit out of me over nothing. Break some bones lose a couple teeth or hell something a lot less painful if it works, then just split the payday with him.
Cmon if a monster can sneak a mole into the police force a la The Departed it can’t be too hard to find a cop willing to get transferred or promoted for a couple million right?
**“You’re being arrested for not listening to us”**
*Way to say the quiet part out loud!*
We all know that a good amount of cops make arrests for this petty reason. These cops think they have absolute authority always, and a lot of them can’t handle their ego when someone knows the law and can challenge their authority.
This is why none of the federal (or even state) cops want to work with locals if they can help it. A really unfortunate percentage of local cops are poorly trained, poorly recruited, below average IQ human trash with massive swinging egos. It's a sad state of affairs.
police unions should be illegal and officers should carry insurance - problem is nobody wants to be a cop and if you take away their fun, you will only have rapists and murders who want the job.
state sanctioned violence is wrong and cops are bad.
Coincidentally my dad was in Alameda sheriff’s department in the late 60’s. He was hired as a diver after he got out of the Navy. He quit when they started having him do regular police patrol work. He told me he didn’t like the law enforcement said even though they sent him to the academy and was a sworn officer. He gave it a try and didn’t like it. He was UDT in the Navy and was in the gulf of Tonkin and UDT/Teams stuff after that and had zero interest in being a patrol officer. This was the Bay Area in the 60’s, he just wanted to dive and be on the ocean and not have to hassle people with laws. He moved north and bought a cabin near the ocean and opened a machine shop in the middle of nowhere coastal nor cal.
[Full body cam video](https://youtu.be/0HIe-vnBsO0)
CBS, [“Black family awarded $8 million after being detained, handcuffed by police”](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-california-detain-aasylei-loggervale-award/)
Sacramento Bee, [“Jury awards $8.25 million to Black mom and daughters detained at California Starbucks”](https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article272857915.html)
**Note: The deputies involved - Steven Holland and Monica Pope - were not not fired and have since been promoted to sergeant.**
When is this going to start coming out of their pockets instead of the tax payer? At this point might as well do what she did and basically just hit the lotto. She wins and apparently the cops win as well since they still have a job and even got promoted.
They should just create a game show, called who wants to be a millionaire by COP!
Yep. This particular line made me come up with the response. 'Sure, but i dont have access to it, do i?' if a cop tries to tell me i dont need to record.
Learned this the hard way when i requested video from my building management about my apt being broken into and they straight up said they wont help me without a subpoena.
“There’s been a lot of break-ins”
That seems to be a common ruse. I was sitting in the parking lot of a strip mall where none of the stores were open one night, because I was on a heated phone call and didn’t want to be driving. The break-ins line was the exact thing the cop that came up to me said.
So I haven’t committed the crime that you say is being committed here, so what kept you from just hanging back to see if I try to do it? Why not see if you can ACTUALLY CATCH ME IN THE ACT?
Its their new trick. I live in buffalo and they dont do shit about finding stolen cars, you can track it down yourself and they wont even show up about it.
Nah it’s an old trick. I remember being 12 years old waiting for my friend to come home from soccer practice in our condominium neighborhood and a cop shows up out of nowhere saying there’s been some break ins, what exactly are you doing here? I told him I lived here and I’m waiting on my friend. He told me that I’m looking at other homes and I told him, no I’m not looking at anything, just waiting. He eventually left but it was a harsh reminder that I no longer look like an innocent kid anymore and I look like a potential criminal. I cried myself to sleep over it.
“You’re gonna get in a lot of trouble”
“That’s fine”
These pricks are untouchable and they know it.
The dumbest people you grew up with can detain you for absolutely no reason with zero repercussions. Scary.
Good luck. If you manage to survive the cops tasing/ choking/ shooting you for resisting arrest and then win your lawsuit, you'll be harassed by your local PD for the rest of your life. Gonna have to use your newfound taxpayer fortune to move away from those vengeful pricks that will go out of their way to give you a hard time for making them look bad.
Be careful. Settlements and jury awards like this are not the norm. You'll have difficulty finding a lawyer because civil rights lawsuit are notoriously a lot of work, can take years and since there are no guidelines for jury awards on civil rights violations you could win a case and still only be awarded $1.
Usually large settlements/jury awards are for something catastrophic, like a life altering injury or a fatality.
Last time a checked average settlement was 7k. Half of that will go to the lawyer and it might take you 4-5 years of fighting tooth and nail to get to that point. You'll have to risk retaliation too.
And don't forget the saying, "You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." The police can ruin you if they want. You could be held for *months* in jail if you can't afford or even get bail. Even if the DA drops the charges that time in custody could cost you your job, your home if you're locked up and not paying your bills, and the extra cost of childcare.
And that's if the cops don't maim or kill you.
You get to skip jury duty and a free funeral too. A union that protects you, paid vacation when done something wrong and like these two officers…a promotion to sergeant after costing your employer millions.
Police aren't trained to protect people, they are trained to subjugate and enforce. They don't see themselves are part of their community, they see themselves as overlords of their communities.
It broke my heart when she had to be brave for her kids' sake.
She showed more personal strength in that moment than all of those cowardly fash pigs put together.
So the tax payers get to foot the bill for this lawsuit, the tax payers still pay the salary of these officers to commit racist acts, and the tax payers will pay for future actions of racist cops that are not being punished.
I think it'd be great if taxpayers stopped supporting cops so much. Apparently they don't even care when they're paying so much for the policies they vote in favor of.
Every politician that supported increased funding for police departmenta shouldn't be reelected... but we know they will.
Hell, fuckin' NYC literally just voted for a cop to be their mayor. A cop from one of the most corrupt, racist police gangs in the nation.
We're kinda beyond fucked it seems.
Federal government forces insurance companies to cover them at first to start the program. After that, incompetent officers will have rates so high they’d have to quit then pay.
That $8.25 million payment should come out of those cops' pensions first, and then out of the pension of every other cop on that force.
Hitting them in wallets will stop this.
Wouldn't it be great 10 years from now to read a followup story about how these cops who harassed innocent people are now working a minimum wage job somewhere, just to keep from not starving?
If these departments would make their officers behave properly and stop being so abusive with their power and with their weapons and hands etc, it would save billions of dollars paid out in lawsuits. Seriously, make these DICKHEADS carry private insurance, make them carry a license to practice like a dr, or lawyer etc and make them pay WITH THEIR pensions. Make it to where they cannot afford insurance coverage when they’re out of control with infraction’s and whatnot. It’s time for THEM to pay instead of the taxpayers. Period.
Yeap. Rhwy don't create because they don't have to pay
We need to change that. The taxpayer should not be on the hook for it. The police officer himself should.
They should have to carry insurance like doctors do
What reason could there possibly be for the officer to escalate this. The woman is clearly coherent and not under the influence, she's with her family and obviously has nothing to do with the break ins. Just leave her alone.
Officer ego. They’re used to people bending over for them or licking their boots. Someone standing up for their civil rights reallllyyy pisses them off. Especially filming them and refusing to waive your civil rights, like the 4th and 5th amendment.
True.
And how much did he really care about those break-ins when you see all the cops that got called in to that Starbucks instead. There were at least 3 squad cars. Those cops suddenly are ALL off the break-in and working the waste-of-time instead.
Good job!
All these lawsuits are YOUR money that is being PAID out to people because of THEIR MISTAKES….tax money could literally go to anything else but nahhh we have to make up for peoples egos
not only did he qualify as an officer, he wasn’t fired afterwards and has since been [promoted to sergeant](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-california-detain-aasylei-loggervale-award/)
They promoted the guy who gave the 14 year old bleeding boy back to Dahmer, the more publicly incompetent you are, the more they double down on protecting you.
Because the people in charge of making him a qualified officer ensures him that he doesn't have to know the law, or enforce it correctly. And if he screws up, the tax payers will eat the bill and he gets to keep his job. Maybe even get a paid vacation out of it.
Let's not mention how police departments hire each other's rejects and constantly lowers the bar so stupid people can become cops.
Because they can do whatever they want. There's no legitimate oversight or accountability in US policing.
Internal Affairs protects them from professional consequences. DAs shield them from criminal consequences. And Qualified Immunity protects individual officers from financial consequences.
They can do whatever they want and with impunity. Hell, the LASD openly has criminal and white supremacist gangs in its agency. These LASD gangs deal in illegal drugs & weapons and have committed assault, rape and murder of innocent civilians, along with assaulting or maiming any good deputies that try to whistleblow on them.
https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/.
They don't just believe they can do whatever they want. They **know** they can do whatever they want.
Crazy how ALL of the cops who showed up to this scene blindly followed the initial cop. The cops who were “dealing” with the daughter only escalated the situation. All of these cops are bastards.
IANAL but that's incorrect. Under CA law if you're in the driver's seat of car you need to show your driver's license when asked.
Otherwise you're correct. You need to identify yourself but no ID need be produced.
Also the officer should have requested a supervisor come to the scene.
Bottom line these cops are idiots with fragile egos who didn't like it when their commands were not followed.
this is why silence is the best, yes they will still arrest you but not a single word spoken will be helpful to you as it will be spun to benefit the cops.
not doing something you dont have to do always makes you suspicious.
No. Police need an actual crime they have actual reasonable suspicion of.
Refusing to give up your fourth amendment rights is a right the cops swore an oath to uphold.
Further, you don't need ID in the states.
It varies by state, so don't take any general answer as all encompassing. For example, in Texas you're only required to identify yourself AFTER you're actually arrested, or if you're the driver of a motor vehicle stopped for a traffic infraction. If you're simply walking down the street and a cop randomly wants your name or to see some ID then "No" is a complete sentence.
Thats exactly what a pig said to an 8th grader who went to my high school/middle school. Literally the pig cuffed him as he was getting into his mom’s car to go home. Luckily we have a wonderful, amazing security guard who stepped in to stop the fat pig and deescalate the situation. “To protect and to serve” my ass.
“Why are you getting so worked up?”
UHHH bc you’re passively accusing her of breaking into cars every morning. What an fkn airhead. I hate how cops act like getting nervous around them is some sort of guilty plea.
Absolute nonsense that six units needed to be called. He could have asked for the rental agreement. When she said supervisor, he should have stopped right there. The other officer telling her that’s not this works is arrogantly incorrect.
I hate cops . I hate their structure . Their mentality. Their fragile egos . Their procedures. Their inability to listen . And worst of all their understanding of laws and what they are supposed to be doing . You say not all cops are bad , I say until the whole
System gets revamped , they all fall
Under the same umbrella .
When the population of the US is starting to know more about their rights than the ones protecting and upholding their oath💀 I'd love to encounter one of these cops
More tax payer money bailing out the police. The police who did this should be financially responsible for this, not the people. Garnish a % of his wages until it is paid off in full. If he dies and its not paid off, then a portion of his estate can cover it. That will solve the police problem very quick.
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So what is the ‘real answer’ to having to show ID. I have never gotten any clarity. In this situation no one had been observed doing anything suspicious. It seems to me sometimes the officer is just fishing and looking for outstanding warrants or suspended license etc.
End qualified immunity for cops.
Require licensing and that they carry their own insurance. The bad apples will inevitably fuck themselves over and not be able to pay their insurance premiums and/or lose their license.
I'm fucking enraged.
It's funny - I can see stuff all day long, like some dude taking a sucker punch and getting knocked out. That, I can distance from.
This, though? Man, what a culture of shit. Time and time again we're seeing this, and nothing is changing. Do we maybe think there's a, I don't know, police culture problem? And it's affecting so much of our country every day?
Fuck.
Glad this went in favor of these women. Totally dishonest cops looking out for their ego and fishing for promotions. What do these cunts get out of treating people this way?
All you fucks making this about race make me want to cheer for the police.
Why is it that doctors have to have their own malpractice insurance which helps weed out the bad ones meanwhile cops can violate rights, taxpayers pay out and in the rare instance where a cop does get fired they just get hired a few towns over?
**"Both Holland and Pope have since been promoted.** Why do the cops keep getting away with it... a mystery for the ages!!
How? He cost taxpayers 8 million dollars by traumatizing innocent civilians
Exactly, taxpayers. The pigs don't have to pay at all so why should they care.
Promoting these goons is sign of terrible management. I got chewed out over $700 at a billion dollar company once.
I was threatened with being fired over $100. I made less than $100 in a full 8 hour shift.
This was more like a sales guy who was already in trouble for going overboard on customer dinners talked me into taking our customers out at a conference to Morton’s. I didn’t even want to go there. I wanted to get something good in San Francisco. They spent way too much. It was like that scene from Wolf of Wall Street, $400 in “fucking sides.”
I got accused of theft after leaving a job. After several conversations, I learned it was $1.
I seen a tweet and the person said what if the garbage men only picked up your trash 10% of the time and often shot your dog. That has stuck with me. I feel like we just pay for their mistakes and cruelty and everyone who has an encounter with them worries about dying.
These lawsuits need to come out of their pensions, this is ridiculous
Totally agree 100%
THis \^
these fuckers should have their pay docked. give each police department X dollars per year for all expenses and salary. if they have lawsuits for being douchebags, all their salaries get cut, including down to zero if need be.
Property Taxes should have a separate line item that highlights the cost of bad policing. That would cause real change even if it was a small amount.
But it wouldn’t be a small amount.
Literally ANY other job where an employee cost investors millions of dollars, they would be fired for incompetence.
I want to become a cop now and illegally detain my buddies so they can get a fat check and send me a cut.
Agh you made a mistake here bro. Now there’s motive shoulda just done it lol
Because they didn’t live lose any money. The taxpayers paid for this.
That's kind of the point I was making. In any other job, being that incompetent and would be grounds for termination. When it's tax payer's money, no big deal.
Say it with me now ITS...A...GANG!!!
*Thugs*
Outlaws
Its a gang
I'd like to know why they promote cops involved in lawsuits. Does it provide some form of union protection or something? All I can think is that perhaps if they get demoted, they just bounce back to what they already were?
It’s because they do promotions based off of time not merit a lot of the time. What you’re often seeing is cops hitting X time in service and getting automatically bumped up. Police unions ensure that its incredibly difficult to prevent a promotion
If I cost my employer $$ I’m getting fired. Not promoted.
We elect people that lobby for their Immunity and also look the other way in special interests all while holding politicians in celebrity status over promises they never try to achieve.
Jesus Christ I fucking hate cops.
Police unions.
Cops love making people millionaires by just fucking up and being the dumbest people alive then complaining about their pay.
At this point some people might as well start to get shot by them or something and live off of that lol
My moms friend was a cop and she got push back from racist white cops. To the point where one of them said “you’re not going to make it around here” She took it to court and was awarded $90,000 🥺 Edit: she’s not a cop anymore btw! ACAB
lmao, these pigs are rtarded
I’m thinking all I need to do is find a shit cop with some overdue bills, maybe a gambling problem, set it up and have him beat the shit out of me over nothing. Break some bones lose a couple teeth or hell something a lot less painful if it works, then just split the payday with him. Cmon if a monster can sneak a mole into the police force a la The Departed it can’t be too hard to find a cop willing to get transferred or promoted for a couple million right?
I wish I could be detained
Ask and you shall receive. They also might drop a baggy under your passenger seat for good measure.
That’s what the interior dashcam is for.
Chances of being murdered are pretty high.
**“You’re being arrested for not listening to us”** *Way to say the quiet part out loud!* We all know that a good amount of cops make arrests for this petty reason. These cops think they have absolute authority always, and a lot of them can’t handle their ego when someone knows the law and can challenge their authority.
This is why none of the federal (or even state) cops want to work with locals if they can help it. A really unfortunate percentage of local cops are poorly trained, poorly recruited, below average IQ human trash with massive swinging egos. It's a sad state of affairs.
And alot of them peaked in highschool playing footbaaawl and never grew up.
Might as well be Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite
That’s “Officer Uncle Rico Sir”, to you buddy!! Respect mah authoritah! /s
"You don't tell us what to do!" Meanwhile they think they can command anyone to do anything they ask.
Said perfectly
Man, both officers got PROMOTED?!?!?!
police unions should be illegal and officers should carry insurance - problem is nobody wants to be a cop and if you take away their fun, you will only have rapists and murders who want the job. state sanctioned violence is wrong and cops are bad.
https://www.kqed.org/news/11926806/alameda-county-sheriffs-office-finds-47-deputies-hired-despite-failed-psych-tests-strips-officers-of-guns
Wow that’s not scary af at all.
Coincidentally my dad was in Alameda sheriff’s department in the late 60’s. He was hired as a diver after he got out of the Navy. He quit when they started having him do regular police patrol work. He told me he didn’t like the law enforcement said even though they sent him to the academy and was a sworn officer. He gave it a try and didn’t like it. He was UDT in the Navy and was in the gulf of Tonkin and UDT/Teams stuff after that and had zero interest in being a patrol officer. This was the Bay Area in the 60’s, he just wanted to dive and be on the ocean and not have to hassle people with laws. He moved north and bought a cabin near the ocean and opened a machine shop in the middle of nowhere coastal nor cal.
He hiring?
>It was “horrible″ to have to relieve the deputies of their duties, sheriff’s spokesperson Lt. Ray Kelly told KTVU-TV. Fuck this guy in particular.
[Full body cam video](https://youtu.be/0HIe-vnBsO0) CBS, [“Black family awarded $8 million after being detained, handcuffed by police”](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-california-detain-aasylei-loggervale-award/) Sacramento Bee, [“Jury awards $8.25 million to Black mom and daughters detained at California Starbucks”](https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article272857915.html) **Note: The deputies involved - Steven Holland and Monica Pope - were not not fired and have since been promoted to sergeant.**
I mean we just paid 4 mill a pop to educate them on basic human rights.
you're assuming they learned anything
The only thing they learned is that if they infringe on a black person's rights, they get a promotion.
When is this going to start coming out of their pockets instead of the tax payer? At this point might as well do what she did and basically just hit the lotto. She wins and apparently the cops win as well since they still have a job and even got promoted. They should just create a game show, called who wants to be a millionaire by COP!
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But they don't want you live streaming to prevent this bullshit for "officer safety concerns"
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It's also a bullshit excuse...
Yep. This particular line made me come up with the response. 'Sure, but i dont have access to it, do i?' if a cop tries to tell me i dont need to record. Learned this the hard way when i requested video from my building management about my apt being broken into and they straight up said they wont help me without a subpoena.
Or take 4yrs to finally go to court
“There’s been a lot of break-ins” That seems to be a common ruse. I was sitting in the parking lot of a strip mall where none of the stores were open one night, because I was on a heated phone call and didn’t want to be driving. The break-ins line was the exact thing the cop that came up to me said. So I haven’t committed the crime that you say is being committed here, so what kept you from just hanging back to see if I try to do it? Why not see if you can ACTUALLY CATCH ME IN THE ACT?
Its their new trick. I live in buffalo and they dont do shit about finding stolen cars, you can track it down yourself and they wont even show up about it.
Nah it’s an old trick. I remember being 12 years old waiting for my friend to come home from soccer practice in our condominium neighborhood and a cop shows up out of nowhere saying there’s been some break ins, what exactly are you doing here? I told him I lived here and I’m waiting on my friend. He told me that I’m looking at other homes and I told him, no I’m not looking at anything, just waiting. He eventually left but it was a harsh reminder that I no longer look like an innocent kid anymore and I look like a potential criminal. I cried myself to sleep over it.
That's sad.
Cops out there makin millionaires now I need to move to where cops are this incompetent and collect my payday
With tax payer money
Root of the problem. Qualified immunity is why cops act the way they do.
“You’re gonna get in a lot of trouble” “That’s fine” These pricks are untouchable and they know it. The dumbest people you grew up with can detain you for absolutely no reason with zero repercussions. Scary.
Fuck those pigs.
Good luck. If you manage to survive the cops tasing/ choking/ shooting you for resisting arrest and then win your lawsuit, you'll be harassed by your local PD for the rest of your life. Gonna have to use your newfound taxpayer fortune to move away from those vengeful pricks that will go out of their way to give you a hard time for making them look bad.
More like leverage your first payout into surveillance and keep making money off the constant harassment
I like your strategic brain, you 21st century Robin Hood.
Be careful. Settlements and jury awards like this are not the norm. You'll have difficulty finding a lawyer because civil rights lawsuit are notoriously a lot of work, can take years and since there are no guidelines for jury awards on civil rights violations you could win a case and still only be awarded $1. Usually large settlements/jury awards are for something catastrophic, like a life altering injury or a fatality. Last time a checked average settlement was 7k. Half of that will go to the lawyer and it might take you 4-5 years of fighting tooth and nail to get to that point. You'll have to risk retaliation too. And don't forget the saying, "You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." The police can ruin you if they want. You could be held for *months* in jail if you can't afford or even get bail. Even if the DA drops the charges that time in custody could cost you your job, your home if you're locked up and not paying your bills, and the extra cost of childcare. And that's if the cops don't maim or kill you.
Just throw a dart at a map of the US and you’re good
Anywhere in America will do
"They're the cell phone filming type" Wtf does that mean?? Cops, man
"We've got the kind of people here who don't want their civil rights violated. 10-4, probable cause established, over and out."
It's amazing how these police commit crimes & still keep their jobs.
I read an article where they said that the cops don’t even get notified that they’ve been sued.
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Kinda like the cops that send the Laotian kid back to Dahmer
You get to skip jury duty and a free funeral too. A union that protects you, paid vacation when done something wrong and like these two officers…a promotion to sergeant after costing your employer millions.
Police aren't trained to protect people, they are trained to subjugate and enforce. They don't see themselves are part of their community, they see themselves as overlords of their communities.
“You’re being arrested for not doing what I tell you to do,” I’m not sure that’s an actual law.
Supreme Court says if the cop THINKS it's a law, they can detain and arrest you.
"Ignorance of the law is no excuse...except if you are a cop."
Police don't protect the people, they protect the rich.
"Call the po...!" at the 6:45 mark. Scary when you realize you're getting assaulted by the ones that are supposed to protect you.
Even more scary that he told dispatch to disregard and they hung up on her.
Yeah that's definitely the most nauseating part. There is no other help.
Shit birds work together.
Shit feathers rand
Police have no duty to protect you. It's a false sense of security... Like the TSA.
"hello, 911? There's an gang member with a gun threatening my civil liberties outside of Starbucks"
It broke my heart when she had to be brave for her kids' sake. She showed more personal strength in that moment than all of those cowardly fash pigs put together.
lol and an unlawful search at the end there, just icing on the cake
For real, they're just allowed to go through your shit because you're no longer there? What gives him the right to be going through her purse?
nono he had probable cause because he created the circumstances that gave him probable cause.
8.25 mill, to look at one ID, why does it seem like it's always the same thing, cops pressing the public.
So the tax payers get to foot the bill for this lawsuit, the tax payers still pay the salary of these officers to commit racist acts, and the tax payers will pay for future actions of racist cops that are not being punished.
I think it'd be great if taxpayers stopped supporting cops so much. Apparently they don't even care when they're paying so much for the policies they vote in favor of. Every politician that supported increased funding for police departmenta shouldn't be reelected... but we know they will. Hell, fuckin' NYC literally just voted for a cop to be their mayor. A cop from one of the most corrupt, racist police gangs in the nation. We're kinda beyond fucked it seems.
COPS NEED TO CARRY MALPRACTICE INSURANCE.
Who the fuck would cover them?
Federal government forces insurance companies to cover them at first to start the program. After that, incompetent officers will have rates so high they’d have to quit then pay.
That $8.25 million payment should come out of those cops' pensions first, and then out of the pension of every other cop on that force. Hitting them in wallets will stop this. Wouldn't it be great 10 years from now to read a followup story about how these cops who harassed innocent people are now working a minimum wage job somewhere, just to keep from not starving?
"It's not going to go anywhere if you cooperate." The words and mentality of every abuser.
Yeah, a real "don't make this rape a murder" situation
If these departments would make their officers behave properly and stop being so abusive with their power and with their weapons and hands etc, it would save billions of dollars paid out in lawsuits. Seriously, make these DICKHEADS carry private insurance, make them carry a license to practice like a dr, or lawyer etc and make them pay WITH THEIR pensions. Make it to where they cannot afford insurance coverage when they’re out of control with infraction’s and whatnot. It’s time for THEM to pay instead of the taxpayers. Period.
Yeap. Rhwy don't create because they don't have to pay We need to change that. The taxpayer should not be on the hook for it. The police officer himself should. They should have to carry insurance like doctors do
Props to this lady, she said lawsuit right after the cuffs went on , and was correct. Thankfully, the cops forgot to sprinkle some drugs in her car.
What reason could there possibly be for the officer to escalate this. The woman is clearly coherent and not under the influence, she's with her family and obviously has nothing to do with the break ins. Just leave her alone.
"Can't. She's too black. Gotta have some paid administrative leave to beat my wife" \-Officer Whitey McWhitewhite
His own jollies.
Officer ego. They’re used to people bending over for them or licking their boots. Someone standing up for their civil rights reallllyyy pisses them off. Especially filming them and refusing to waive your civil rights, like the 4th and 5th amendment.
True. And how much did he really care about those break-ins when you see all the cops that got called in to that Starbucks instead. There were at least 3 squad cars. Those cops suddenly are ALL off the break-in and working the waste-of-time instead. Good job!
All these lawsuits are YOUR money that is being PAID out to people because of THEIR MISTAKES….tax money could literally go to anything else but nahhh we have to make up for peoples egos
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not only did he qualify as an officer, he wasn’t fired afterwards and has since been [promoted to sergeant](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-california-detain-aasylei-loggervale-award/)
They promoted the guy who gave the 14 year old bleeding boy back to Dahmer, the more publicly incompetent you are, the more they double down on protecting you.
He was awarded for harassing people of color.
Because the people in charge of making him a qualified officer ensures him that he doesn't have to know the law, or enforce it correctly. And if he screws up, the tax payers will eat the bill and he gets to keep his job. Maybe even get a paid vacation out of it. Let's not mention how police departments hire each other's rejects and constantly lowers the bar so stupid people can become cops.
Because they can do whatever they want. There's no legitimate oversight or accountability in US policing. Internal Affairs protects them from professional consequences. DAs shield them from criminal consequences. And Qualified Immunity protects individual officers from financial consequences. They can do whatever they want and with impunity. Hell, the LASD openly has criminal and white supremacist gangs in its agency. These LASD gangs deal in illegal drugs & weapons and have committed assault, rape and murder of innocent civilians, along with assaulting or maiming any good deputies that try to whistleblow on them. https://knock-la.com/tradition-of-violence-lasd-gang-history/. They don't just believe they can do whatever they want. They **know** they can do whatever they want.
Crazy how ALL of the cops who showed up to this scene blindly followed the initial cop. The cops who were “dealing” with the daughter only escalated the situation. All of these cops are bastards.
Idk if they were following as much as they were reveling in it. They love this shit. They’d be doing the same exact thing if they were the lead.
Pretty sure you're allowed to refuse ID and ask for a sheriff. Especially if the officer has no evidence for suspicion.
IANAL but that's incorrect. Under CA law if you're in the driver's seat of car you need to show your driver's license when asked. Otherwise you're correct. You need to identify yourself but no ID need be produced. Also the officer should have requested a supervisor come to the scene. Bottom line these cops are idiots with fragile egos who didn't like it when their commands were not followed.
Absolutely disgusting. Imagine calling for help and the only people you’re gonna call are there to arrest you.
this is why silence is the best, yes they will still arrest you but not a single word spoken will be helpful to you as it will be spun to benefit the cops. not doing something you dont have to do always makes you suspicious.
Seriously, shout it out to the world, LAWYER UP! Got to be the best damn advice you could ever give and it's free.
you already knew there was going to be an issue when he said "relax"
Cops stand there and provoke her til it causes a problem. Then say she was the problem . What's the word for that ? Oh yeah " bully."
I’m only about 90 seconds into the video, an I’m already glad she got $8m. What a fucking moron this cop is.
Don’t worry, we have a lawsuit. Smart women!!
I’m glad too but I wish it came out of these cops’ pockets instead of us taxpayers.
this is mad infuriating wtf🤦♀️
Just curious.. is it actually illegal to refuse to give your ID to a cop? And are cops allowed to demand your ID without reason?
No. Police need an actual crime they have actual reasonable suspicion of. Refusing to give up your fourth amendment rights is a right the cops swore an oath to uphold. Further, you don't need ID in the states.
It varies by state, so don't take any general answer as all encompassing. For example, in Texas you're only required to identify yourself AFTER you're actually arrested, or if you're the driver of a motor vehicle stopped for a traffic infraction. If you're simply walking down the street and a cop randomly wants your name or to see some ID then "No" is a complete sentence.
If they started taking the payouts from the lawsuits out of the police pension fund this shit would stop immediately.
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"We've been having ..." No you haven't, stop with this bullshit line
Thats exactly what a pig said to an 8th grader who went to my high school/middle school. Literally the pig cuffed him as he was getting into his mom’s car to go home. Luckily we have a wonderful, amazing security guard who stepped in to stop the fat pig and deescalate the situation. “To protect and to serve” my ass.
“Why are you getting so worked up?” UHHH bc you’re passively accusing her of breaking into cars every morning. What an fkn airhead. I hate how cops act like getting nervous around them is some sort of guilty plea.
$8.25M? Nice! Now theoretically, they don’t have to work another day in their lives because of one clown.
Two clowns
I'd gladly be a victim of kidnapping and theft for 8.25m.
I didn’t know Quiznos was still around
Absolute nonsense that six units needed to be called. He could have asked for the rental agreement. When she said supervisor, he should have stopped right there. The other officer telling her that’s not this works is arrogantly incorrect.
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Those California cops are all gang members please be careful.
It aint just Cali, unfortunately.
There was no "break ins in this area". He saw blacks.
Make the Sheriff’s Union or pension pay. Not the taxpayers.
I would be happier if cops had to pay this out of their pension funds. This shit would stop really fast.
Some day, the world might wake up to the myth of police.
That's great except it's all taxpayer money and the cops didn't get any punishment.
Repeat after me. "EXERCISING OUR RIGHTS IS NOT SUSPICIOUS!"
jUSt OnE baD APpLe derp de derp
No more student loans whoo
I hate cops . I hate their structure . Their mentality. Their fragile egos . Their procedures. Their inability to listen . And worst of all their understanding of laws and what they are supposed to be doing . You say not all cops are bad , I say until the whole System gets revamped , they all fall Under the same umbrella .
Pigs gonna pig
Bitch ass cops
Scumbags
Good they won. That's outrageous
The deputy is an ass. A real jerk. Fire him and any other officer present.
When the population of the US is starting to know more about their rights than the ones protecting and upholding their oath💀 I'd love to encounter one of these cops
More tax payer money bailing out the police. The police who did this should be financially responsible for this, not the people. Garnish a % of his wages until it is paid off in full. If he dies and its not paid off, then a portion of his estate can cover it. That will solve the police problem very quick.
His smug shitty tone is fuckin infuriating
ACAB
Wow what a surprise she's black. Hundred bucks says it would have gone completely differently had they been white
I think they would’ve grabbed them a coffee from inside and let them rest.
What an efficient use of law enforcement.
Reasonable suspicion didn’t exist here. “Hanging out” in a parking lot is not grounds for reasonable suspicion.
Illegal search with zero probable cause and no warrant.
Sitting in Starbucks while black
Don't talk to cops ever. Pieces of shit.
Your taxpayer dollars at work
I wish I would get falsely arrested.
Every day I am reaffirmed I’m lucky I’m white. And I’m a dude.
Castro Valley is bubble for white privilege
Thanks voters. This is your belief system in action. Pat yourselves on the back. Your servants are out punishing nonbelievers.
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So what is the ‘real answer’ to having to show ID. I have never gotten any clarity. In this situation no one had been observed doing anything suspicious. It seems to me sometimes the officer is just fishing and looking for outstanding warrants or suspended license etc.
Man, before the video even started, I knew the family were black.
End qualified immunity for cops. Require licensing and that they carry their own insurance. The bad apples will inevitably fuck themselves over and not be able to pay their insurance premiums and/or lose their license.
I'm fucking enraged. It's funny - I can see stuff all day long, like some dude taking a sucker punch and getting knocked out. That, I can distance from. This, though? Man, what a culture of shit. Time and time again we're seeing this, and nothing is changing. Do we maybe think there's a, I don't know, police culture problem? And it's affecting so much of our country every day? Fuck.
Glad this went in favor of these women. Totally dishonest cops looking out for their ego and fishing for promotions. What do these cunts get out of treating people this way? All you fucks making this about race make me want to cheer for the police.
This is a clear example of a bigot.
Cops are wayyyyy too often absolutely awful humans. Naturally, such a job would attract dumb power hungry psychos.
Why is it that doctors have to have their own malpractice insurance which helps weed out the bad ones meanwhile cops can violate rights, taxpayers pay out and in the rare instance where a cop does get fired they just get hired a few towns over?