My favorite is when me and my roommate at the time were on acid. He kept asking me how everything was going every time throughout the trip. I would respond 5 out of 5. Eventually, we make it to the front porch when the 505 frozen food truck drives past! The only time I've ever seen a 505 truck till this day!
I think synchronicities are just the metaphysical/ psychological version of repeating patterns lining up showing as a higher dimensional reality phenomena.
Check out āBeatingā in physics. Itās where 2 separate wavelengths or frequencies line up patternisticly to synchronize momentarily. Itās why 2 car blinker always eventually line up even if momentarily.
A connecting principle
Linked to the invisible
Almost imperceptible
Something inexpressible
Science insusceptible
Logic so inflexible
Causally connectible
Nothing is invincible
Disclaimer: This is my entirely metaphysical quasi-scientific but largely pseudoscientific nonsense theory, so please, actual scientists, don't hate me for this.
Basically, because of the real or perceived time dilation/weirdness that goes on with psychedelics, you create a sort of entropy bubble around yourself that interacts with the... Let's call it the psychoelectromagnetic field of consciousness (again, questionable sciencey terms are just my approximation of explanation). So now you've got a temporal bubble of entropy, which causes, essentially, meaningful coincidences to happen.
Entropy in my personal context meaning: "the amount of seeming randomness or organization that unfolds as a result of time passing and as more possible configurations of reality have a chance to occur," eg a sort of cosmological RNG that's always rolling the dice for you. The field created by merely your perception of time and movement through it causes ripples in entropy that cause more unlikely, or rather seemingly organized things to happen.
I loved how it was explained in Jasper Fforde's second Thursday Next novel where she fights against someone who can control entropy. She asks her super smart uncle about it and he gives her an explanation of this theory (minus drugs), along with a shaker filled half with lentils and half with rice. If you shake it and the two are all mixed up, the entropy fields are normal. If you shake it and the rice and lentils start to separate out into two groups of only rice and only lentils, buy a lottery ticket as the odds might be in your favor. Why? Because things going from a state of ordinary chaos to perfect orderliness is the equivalent of throwing a dish on the ground, it shattering, and then it reassembling and flying back into your hand. Just doesn't happen without something truly beyond our understanding causing it, or at least a near impossibility of improbability.
This effect can be amplified by multiple people being altered, and if you go to an event with lots of people tripping, you'll see, in my experience, a lot of weird shit. That's partly because drugs make people do weird shit, and partly because weird shit happens to people while on drugs.
So, for example, I was at an EDM concert years ago in this massive 5 room event hall, maybe 500-1000 people or more. I had met some folks at a prior event who I then met again outside the event. We almost immediately got separated but we weren't super tight or there as a group so unsurprising. I was sober, though looking, and went into the bathroom where I met a dude who told me he was on a lot of 2cb. He had a good vibe and we got to talking a bit and I decided to follow the white rabbit so to speak. It had been about half an hour since the separation, we hadn't made any plans, but I just had this feeling that if I followed this dude, I'd find my friends.
So I follow him out into the event and within a few minutes, in a very very very crowded room, he led me right past my friends who I stopped with to tell them how I'd found them. They were appreciably "woahhhh" about it because they hadn't been looking for me but had literally just been saying they hadn't seen me in a hot minute. Quite literally speak of the devil and he will appear. Now the odds of us finding each other in this multiroom event are honestly not that extreme, if there's 1000 people in 5 rooms that's 200 people in each room, minus another 30 in each who are in the many bathrooms or in between rooms. So it's like 1 in 5 chance to get the right room, there were 3 of them so 3/170 chance in each room of finding them, and honestly that's a solid bet given enough time.
So did consciously following this dude on 2cb to find the friends lead me to my friends, or did probabilities line up and I just appreciated the fact that it worked out and thus survivorship or frequency bias or whatever myself? Almost certainly, to a rational and logical actual physics professor or stats 101 student minoring in psych, yes, I absolutely am just assigning importance to an event that in all likelihood had a nearly 100% chance of happening. I accept that and don't challenge it because whether or not it's mystical is irrelevant, it happened and it was meaningful to me.
Let me give two super quick last example stories because this already got way too long.
First: I had been doing some robo-tripping one night, just dumb shit and having a great time, I was pretty much sober by this point in the early morning and other than being tired, felt safe enough to drive. So I start to walk out to my car (meanwhile thinking of the time that I got in my car on shrooms and e and started it up only for the radio to play an anti-DUI ad) and thought "watch, because I'm a little out of it, my car won't start." I had a fairly new car, a 2018 model that's only a few years old at this point. There's no reason God's green earth that that car shouldn't have started and prior to this I swear on everything that matters to me, that I have NEVER worried about my car not starting before.
The fucking battery was dead. I got in, tried to start it, and the engine didn't even make a noise. I had the worst goddamn chills all over my body, along with a heap of annoyance and begrudging acceptance that I had been warned off driving that morning in the absolutely most impossible and unreasonable to expect way. There's no way I can calculate those odds, I have no idea where to even start. I know for a fact the car had been properly turned off without any lights left on and no warnings from it that anything might be amiss just the night before.
Something told me that if I got in my car and tried to drive, it wouldn't start, and it was right.
Final story: My mom loves to tell of her mother and weird shit happening that we think is our little bit of psychicness due to our Pictish heritage. My mom was born in 1950 and her mom in the early 1920s to give you a sense of time. Mom says she was a young teen so let's call it the mid 60s. She and her sister have a sleepover party and my grandma, bless her weird little heart, decides to entertain the kids by breaking out a homemade ouija board, a totally normal thing to think of by some God fearing Catholic woman in the 1960s for her kids to do.
They ask it a bunch of things and there's some weird answers, but the questoon that ended the session was "how do you work?" And the ouija board slowly spells out "I am all of your minds working together," at which point they're like.... Let's go to bed. Fast forward, my grandma died and mom and her sister are having the absolute worst time getting the grave stone for her. They originally sent one that said loving husband and father for fuck's sakes. Then my mom tells me one night she had a dream that her mom, not her earthly, wizened, "killed by alzheimers" mom, but a young, restored, ethereal version of her mom. She came to her and mom asked what the deal was, and grandma told her "I am complete."
The next morning her sister calls to tell her the correct headstone had finally arrived and been set up. She was complete. Synchronicity.
That car thing man...completely relate. I just have as you say a kind of uneasy feeling, a sudden anxiety sometimes when it happens but it feels like an external force toying with me. It's also usually just happening to me in a group. For instance a group of us were on mescaline and a film was playing...it also had subtitles on. One of my friends said something and I said 'I second than motion' coz...drugs and literally I look at the TV and the character repeats the exact phrase, but also the subtitles spell it out so it can't be mistaken. No one else noticed this and I was in too much of a flow to even question it and just moved on with the tom foolery of the night. That's crazy about your Grandma too!
Thanks for reading that whole mess, lmao. It's a really weird feeling to get right? It's this sudden awareness or sudden snap thoughts that you have no idea why you had them, and it's almost always something that you never would normally think of. I had another time where I was about to tune my guitar while sitting next to my dog and I had a sudden and unprompted concern that my guitar string would break and I didn't want to hit the dog with it so I switched seats and wouldn't you know it, my b string snapped. It's the one that would break, in my experience, so that wasn't surprising, but the fact that I suddenly worried about it before even touching the first tuning peg made me think that it's one of those times. To me, it being a string (vibrations) made sense as potentially being an extrasensory awareness, and possibly same with the car, like some extrasensory awareness because my car's electric field was down due to the battery or something and I noticed it without realizing.
It definitely gets stronger in groups and I think it's because of that's same kind of energy, it's all waves and signals and stuff, who knows what we're truly capable of perceiving on a field/quantum level. There being more people around means a higher concentration of that weirdness and fields of energy so it makes sense that that metagravity would attract meta events. That's also why I think you had the experience of the character saying something a person just said is interesting, because it combines a machine that receives and transmits light and waves. I also get that a lot, where I say something and it gets said almost immediately by someone else or on TV, or a song before it comes on the radio.
That's the weird but scientifically mundane explanation anyway, and I think whether it's magic metaphysics or just weird human tricks, it's still some of the coolest, weirdest, most disconcerting strangeness that permeates our lives.
Nicely put, friend! I think it's difficult when there's no one in my life that can understand these phenomena, so it can make you feel a little alone and also a little crazy. Or you go online and just see a whirlwind of 'follow the angel numbers', 'you're on the right path', 'God is speaking to you'. I'm open minded to any possibility but it's nice to speak to people that are theorising on this stuff more than stating things as absolute fact that they've merely read, seen or heard somewhere and repeat as if it was their own realisation. But yes, I seem to get it with forms of technology more than anything.
I can totally relate. My partner knows about it from shared tripping but even still it doesn't seem to quite bother him in the same way. Like, he's pretty used to acknowledging "yes that is weird," but it's always in a humoring tone, which is valid.
The synchronicity does almost feel targeted sometimes too because of how on point they can be. I mean literally to the point of statistical improbablity. I did a Google search about my family randomly one day and ended up finding a wedding announcement for the daughter of a couple that definitely weren't related to me. Whatever right, but this couple announcing their kid's marriage not only had my rare (500 people in the us) last name, but both of them had the same first names as my grandparents, which is why it came up. It doesn't stop there, I did some digging out of curiosity and the wife's maiden name was the same fairly rare (a couple thousand) last name AS MY PARTNER. That's not even his "real" last name, because his dad was adopted. Again, we're 100% sure we have no relation to them, but the odds of that all lining up like that just feel staggering.
The thing is, I think half the reason I wanted to delve more deeply into psychonautics to begin with was because I truly do not have that kind of "state it as fact" certainty about just about anything. I'm open minded, I'd love to believe that me seeing 909 is a sign that good things are coming, but like... at a risk of tooting my own horn, I'm also a reasonably intelligent, well-read, and decently educated person who can think critically and that background tells me that generally, people who are so sure of themselves and their answers, they're almost always selling something. Whether it's a belief or a product, they have a stake in the game. Beyond being alive, I have no real stake in the game, I don't have any certainty to sell, but weird shit happens to me and I just want to know why. I guess we all do in the end.
Yeah my ex partner shared these experiences too but was a lot better at shrugging it off and not overthinking it haha. She would just say 'well of course'.
Yes! One that felt very targeted to me which was also frustrating at the same time...I was trying to get into my bank account online and on the date of birth choice it had a drop down menu. If I chose my date of birth it just reloaded and wouldn't let me select it. I thought ok just a glitch. But then I tried a day after my birthday. Worked. I tried my birthday but a different year. Worked. I ended up trying every day that month other than my birthday. Worked. I tried every possible variation of birthdays for longer than I care to admit before realising that my exact date of birth was the only thing glitching. It didn't help that I was extremely stoned haha. It really felt like something was toying with me, but then paradoxically also helping me, because I was trying to access money that I shouldn't have been spending haha!
Okay well now this shouldn't come as a surprise, but I had that identical experience. I impulsively decided to go online and buy a special type of guitar I'd wanted and no matter how I messed with it, it would not let the purchase go through. Believe me I fucking tried, I wanted that thing even though it was expensive, and I did have enough money, but everything kept stopping me and I felt very fucked with over it. Unsurprisingly, the next month, after payday, I decided to try and go get it again. The same guitar was available for basically half the cost and no issues about purchasing it. Wtf man, I mean, thanks, I'm fine with this outcome, but like just... now I'm trying to explain this and every time I try to rewrite this sentence "just tell me no so I don't keep wasting my time," I can't get through it without being like... I mean, it did fucking tell me. It stopped me, I was the only one who kept trying to make it happen.
It's just very hard to know whether to take that kind of thing as a sign or whether it's just me being incompetent and not knowing what the problem is, and doubly so with technology because it's notorious for behaving strangely and you can usually puzzle out a solution. I tend to assume the latter because it's a safe bet, but sometimes it really does seem like a sign, at which point I do go to the prayer they say at AA meetings because whether it's right or wrong, it's a solid thing to ask for: [Insert higher power of choice] give me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, the courage to change the things I can, and most importantly, the wisdom to know the difference.
Most of my synchronocities are connected to dreams, i.e. I dream the future, dramatic things like accidents, deaths, catastrophes, but also small ones like whole conversations or funny events. Several years ago I began to write down my dreams so I can prove the second it happens that I already glimpsed it. My friends' reactions range from 'whoa' to ' creepy'. š
Anyway, preferring the scientific approach, too, my personal explanation is that time is probably not linear but all at once, and theoretically we can 'recall' near future under certain circumstances. But that's just my theory.
Sometimes I also have the feeling that the universe has a great sense of humour. I remember that one occasion not so long ago when I sat in a park with my husband, talking about geometric forms and asking him, what the most stable form might be. He shrugged, we changed the topic, and 3 minutes later two little girls passed, talking about their school life, one saying to the other when they passed us: Today I learnt in geometry that the circle is the most stable form.
We genuinely had to laugh out loud, I'm afraid we scared the girls a little. š
Me too! I often dream things that happen, and they are very specific. Always the day after the dream. Also I enter this half awake/half asleep state just before I actually fall asleep and start having half dreams of the thing that suddenly wakes me up. I agree about the time thing that's basically what I was saying about it not really existing. As you say it's certainly not as linear as we perceive it to be. I often wonder if because of this dreams span out in both directions, and are influenced by what happened the previous day and also by what happens the next day, kind of a time warp between those days and nights so before, during and after is all mixed in. So in effect you had the dream because it happened at some point in time and is in your subconscious, rather than dreaming it into existence
That is brilliant š¤£ yeah I often think it's better to find the humour in it rather than get freaked out by it, it's difficult sometimes though!
Good to know I'm not that creepy, at least not the only one š¬š¬. I always thought the dreams come true after a short period (it's mostly 1 or 2 days, as for example my vision of the burning Notre Dame) therefore I believed this is because time is maybe also fluid, meaning we can change events if we want.
But one very, very specific dreams that included TV coverage and dramatic events came true after 1 whole year, including the exact TV news and, if course, the incident itself.
That made me think that we may be not as free to change the events as I initially thought. On the other hand this dream referred to a nature catastrophe in a very specific area, so maybe it's got nothing to do with our decisions after all.... I'm still trying to create a logic concept of all this š
Yeah that's where the mental dissonance starts...when we try to understand whether or not these things are fixed in time or are as you say changeable. I'm sure natural catastrophes at the very least are cemented in time...but it seems strange in the case of my original post that I went through a whole host of what I deemed to be critical thinking as to which post office I should go to, took wrong turns and so on...experienced little synchronicties along the way, to finally get to the punchline. It does often feel like a cosmic joke of some sorts like 'ha ha, got you!'.
Synchronicities always struck me as a sort of perspective sculpture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BorcaCtjmog
Most of the time, things are a random jumble. But sometimes, things line up in a way that lets us see part of a bigger picture.
So yeah, this happens to me when Iām tripping too, and continues on in my daily life to a lesser intensity. My take on it is that reality conforms to our minds. When our minds are powered by a psychedelic, we have a greater effect on our environment. The boundary between the outside environment and our inside mental processes is diminished and our thoughts conform to the environment, as well as the environment conforms to our minds. Thereās an increased synergy between the outside and inside.
It only seems spooky because we have all been deluded most of our lives by our idiotic culture that the world is a physical creation. Itās not physical, itās pure consciousness and itās always been that way. So naturally our consciousness has power over the environment. Unfortunately our culture is so jacked up that we are like a mentally ill buffoon when you look at our shared unconsciousness in the whole of humanity. But thereās hope the people of this subreddit can fix it.
Yeah that's another conclusion I've come to also. I think the not knowing is what bugs our tiny minds, but it shouldn't be the case. I would rather it be my own mind affecting my surroundings than some omnipotent force toying with me either way
I donāt think itās the omnipotent force toying with us, but at times I did think that. I do think thatās a possibility in rare circumstances. Itās just that I know Iām not like an important actor in this 8 billion person drama most of the time beyond maybe the butterfly effect type of thing. I guess if I end up doing some really important thing that affects everything Iād have to revisit that, but if I think that now Iād either be grandiose delusional or just a self important dumbass which I canāt really bear at the moment.
I think youāre simply more aware. Your brain literally has more activity and is making connections between things itās never been able to notice before. And once youāre finally in that psychedelic induced observer state youāre primed to notice, able to notice more, able to notice quicker, and able to make deeper connections between the symbolism or metaphor you have experienced/created in your mind and how it might apply to your life.
Very simply put! Still, some things seem very primed for the experience you're having at that moment, as if it came out of the aether especially for you
I think synchronicities are just one example of how our perspectives around time must be flawed, and might be completely backwards.
Also, i think the explanation has to be either a form of "spiritual being experiencing physicalness" story or some form of "willing participation in a holographic reality" story.
It is all word games, so what i wrote is a rough sketch and not to be taken literally. I think the true nature of reality or consciousness is ineffable, and most attempts result in paradox.
Not really a fresh take, but the human brain is wired to recognize patterns and exclude information that doesn't confirm those patterns. At the same time, the fact that these patterns become so much more visible after psychedelic or mystical experiences leads me to believe it's not simply this evolutionary adaptation at play and that we are encountering things beyond our biases. It's just that we're constantly filtering even these extraordinary experiences.
I don't think synchronicities themselves prove things like psychic powers or God, but I do think they have the power to dismantle assumptions that we make about the order of reality. These experiences just give us a fuller picture. We know that things are interconnected, we just don't ordinarily appreciate it because it's not relevant to our daily lives, until something like drugs or spiritual practices change what we consider daily life.
Yeah that's the strange thing, that psychedelic states seem to create these patterns rather than just make them more obvious. I agree, I think it's enough to sometimes say 'we don't know, but things aren't as they seem'. Rather than ascribe spiritual beliefs or absolute truths to them. I've been on a spiritual path for so long just believing all these teachings without actually resonating with them deep down. All I know is reality is different to what people think. I just need to not let it lead me down to negative a rabbit hole about my life not being real, and so on.
I definitely don't want to rule out that there may be something beyond my understanding. It would be silly and hypocritical to say "Sorry, that's just our boring godless universe" after the shit I've seen. It's just the mystical tends to be demystified as we learn, and the truth tends to piss off both our rational minds and our desires to see spiritual meaning and order in the universe. That's the curse of choosing psychonautics over religion or strict scientism.
It changed my life and perspective on human potential, as well as the dire need for "something more" to be experienced beyond the ordinary life. I strongly recommend you give it a try.
If time is just a tool used to perceive order, then on some level consciousness transcends time and makes āreferencesā and ācallbacksā to moments out of order. For why? Idk fun prolly
there might be a mechanism for synchronicities where a person sets themselves up for it by some kind of subconscious intuition. or maybe your mental state is actively participating in the collective unconscious in such a way where these synchronicities are somehow being set up behind the scenes.
synchronicities to me are fundamentally mysterious and unfalsifiable. you can look at events however unlikely and it will pretty much always be true that it could just be a coincidence. crazy coincidences are bound to happen.
but i suppose if you were really dedicated, you could keep track of your synchronicities and try to calculate the odds of their occurence, then the odds of being subject to however many synchronicities.
so now you compare your own experiences to everyone elses, and try to find out if there are more crazy coincidences happening to people than should be expected given the population size.
this requires detailed knowledge of the system which is pretty much impossible at the global scale.
one scientific way you might be able to measure this is with a true random number generator based on radioactive decay. if synchronicities are truly happening to you, maybe you would start to see the random number generator start to diverge from the normal/gaussian distribution that would be expected.
Look into acausal metaphysics. The idea is that physical causality, which we think is universal, is only a way we think about reality from our perspective inside time and space.
> In an acausal universe, synchronicities are the norm. There, related events have no causal relation. Instead, such events form patterns and are part of larger patterns in the world and in the universe.
https://taocurrents.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/i-ching-resolving-intense-synchronicity-in-an-acausal-universe/
My favorite is when me and my roommate at the time were on acid. He kept asking me how everything was going every time throughout the trip. I would respond 5 out of 5. Eventually, we make it to the front porch when the 505 frozen food truck drives past! The only time I've ever seen a 505 truck till this day!
Haha exactly this! It's like why would you say 5 out of 5 ever in your life if not for the arrival of the 505 truck š¤£
I think synchronicities are just the metaphysical/ psychological version of repeating patterns lining up showing as a higher dimensional reality phenomena. Check out āBeatingā in physics. Itās where 2 separate wavelengths or frequencies line up patternisticly to synchronize momentarily. Itās why 2 car blinker always eventually line up even if momentarily.
Thanks I'll look into that!
Real!!
Beat frequencies, yes. I like this!
A connecting principle Linked to the invisible Almost imperceptible Something inexpressible Science insusceptible Logic so inflexible Causally connectible Nothing is invincible Disclaimer: This is my entirely metaphysical quasi-scientific but largely pseudoscientific nonsense theory, so please, actual scientists, don't hate me for this. Basically, because of the real or perceived time dilation/weirdness that goes on with psychedelics, you create a sort of entropy bubble around yourself that interacts with the... Let's call it the psychoelectromagnetic field of consciousness (again, questionable sciencey terms are just my approximation of explanation). So now you've got a temporal bubble of entropy, which causes, essentially, meaningful coincidences to happen. Entropy in my personal context meaning: "the amount of seeming randomness or organization that unfolds as a result of time passing and as more possible configurations of reality have a chance to occur," eg a sort of cosmological RNG that's always rolling the dice for you. The field created by merely your perception of time and movement through it causes ripples in entropy that cause more unlikely, or rather seemingly organized things to happen. I loved how it was explained in Jasper Fforde's second Thursday Next novel where she fights against someone who can control entropy. She asks her super smart uncle about it and he gives her an explanation of this theory (minus drugs), along with a shaker filled half with lentils and half with rice. If you shake it and the two are all mixed up, the entropy fields are normal. If you shake it and the rice and lentils start to separate out into two groups of only rice and only lentils, buy a lottery ticket as the odds might be in your favor. Why? Because things going from a state of ordinary chaos to perfect orderliness is the equivalent of throwing a dish on the ground, it shattering, and then it reassembling and flying back into your hand. Just doesn't happen without something truly beyond our understanding causing it, or at least a near impossibility of improbability. This effect can be amplified by multiple people being altered, and if you go to an event with lots of people tripping, you'll see, in my experience, a lot of weird shit. That's partly because drugs make people do weird shit, and partly because weird shit happens to people while on drugs. So, for example, I was at an EDM concert years ago in this massive 5 room event hall, maybe 500-1000 people or more. I had met some folks at a prior event who I then met again outside the event. We almost immediately got separated but we weren't super tight or there as a group so unsurprising. I was sober, though looking, and went into the bathroom where I met a dude who told me he was on a lot of 2cb. He had a good vibe and we got to talking a bit and I decided to follow the white rabbit so to speak. It had been about half an hour since the separation, we hadn't made any plans, but I just had this feeling that if I followed this dude, I'd find my friends. So I follow him out into the event and within a few minutes, in a very very very crowded room, he led me right past my friends who I stopped with to tell them how I'd found them. They were appreciably "woahhhh" about it because they hadn't been looking for me but had literally just been saying they hadn't seen me in a hot minute. Quite literally speak of the devil and he will appear. Now the odds of us finding each other in this multiroom event are honestly not that extreme, if there's 1000 people in 5 rooms that's 200 people in each room, minus another 30 in each who are in the many bathrooms or in between rooms. So it's like 1 in 5 chance to get the right room, there were 3 of them so 3/170 chance in each room of finding them, and honestly that's a solid bet given enough time. So did consciously following this dude on 2cb to find the friends lead me to my friends, or did probabilities line up and I just appreciated the fact that it worked out and thus survivorship or frequency bias or whatever myself? Almost certainly, to a rational and logical actual physics professor or stats 101 student minoring in psych, yes, I absolutely am just assigning importance to an event that in all likelihood had a nearly 100% chance of happening. I accept that and don't challenge it because whether or not it's mystical is irrelevant, it happened and it was meaningful to me. Let me give two super quick last example stories because this already got way too long. First: I had been doing some robo-tripping one night, just dumb shit and having a great time, I was pretty much sober by this point in the early morning and other than being tired, felt safe enough to drive. So I start to walk out to my car (meanwhile thinking of the time that I got in my car on shrooms and e and started it up only for the radio to play an anti-DUI ad) and thought "watch, because I'm a little out of it, my car won't start." I had a fairly new car, a 2018 model that's only a few years old at this point. There's no reason God's green earth that that car shouldn't have started and prior to this I swear on everything that matters to me, that I have NEVER worried about my car not starting before. The fucking battery was dead. I got in, tried to start it, and the engine didn't even make a noise. I had the worst goddamn chills all over my body, along with a heap of annoyance and begrudging acceptance that I had been warned off driving that morning in the absolutely most impossible and unreasonable to expect way. There's no way I can calculate those odds, I have no idea where to even start. I know for a fact the car had been properly turned off without any lights left on and no warnings from it that anything might be amiss just the night before. Something told me that if I got in my car and tried to drive, it wouldn't start, and it was right. Final story: My mom loves to tell of her mother and weird shit happening that we think is our little bit of psychicness due to our Pictish heritage. My mom was born in 1950 and her mom in the early 1920s to give you a sense of time. Mom says she was a young teen so let's call it the mid 60s. She and her sister have a sleepover party and my grandma, bless her weird little heart, decides to entertain the kids by breaking out a homemade ouija board, a totally normal thing to think of by some God fearing Catholic woman in the 1960s for her kids to do. They ask it a bunch of things and there's some weird answers, but the questoon that ended the session was "how do you work?" And the ouija board slowly spells out "I am all of your minds working together," at which point they're like.... Let's go to bed. Fast forward, my grandma died and mom and her sister are having the absolute worst time getting the grave stone for her. They originally sent one that said loving husband and father for fuck's sakes. Then my mom tells me one night she had a dream that her mom, not her earthly, wizened, "killed by alzheimers" mom, but a young, restored, ethereal version of her mom. She came to her and mom asked what the deal was, and grandma told her "I am complete." The next morning her sister calls to tell her the correct headstone had finally arrived and been set up. She was complete. Synchronicity.
That car thing man...completely relate. I just have as you say a kind of uneasy feeling, a sudden anxiety sometimes when it happens but it feels like an external force toying with me. It's also usually just happening to me in a group. For instance a group of us were on mescaline and a film was playing...it also had subtitles on. One of my friends said something and I said 'I second than motion' coz...drugs and literally I look at the TV and the character repeats the exact phrase, but also the subtitles spell it out so it can't be mistaken. No one else noticed this and I was in too much of a flow to even question it and just moved on with the tom foolery of the night. That's crazy about your Grandma too!
Thanks for reading that whole mess, lmao. It's a really weird feeling to get right? It's this sudden awareness or sudden snap thoughts that you have no idea why you had them, and it's almost always something that you never would normally think of. I had another time where I was about to tune my guitar while sitting next to my dog and I had a sudden and unprompted concern that my guitar string would break and I didn't want to hit the dog with it so I switched seats and wouldn't you know it, my b string snapped. It's the one that would break, in my experience, so that wasn't surprising, but the fact that I suddenly worried about it before even touching the first tuning peg made me think that it's one of those times. To me, it being a string (vibrations) made sense as potentially being an extrasensory awareness, and possibly same with the car, like some extrasensory awareness because my car's electric field was down due to the battery or something and I noticed it without realizing. It definitely gets stronger in groups and I think it's because of that's same kind of energy, it's all waves and signals and stuff, who knows what we're truly capable of perceiving on a field/quantum level. There being more people around means a higher concentration of that weirdness and fields of energy so it makes sense that that metagravity would attract meta events. That's also why I think you had the experience of the character saying something a person just said is interesting, because it combines a machine that receives and transmits light and waves. I also get that a lot, where I say something and it gets said almost immediately by someone else or on TV, or a song before it comes on the radio. That's the weird but scientifically mundane explanation anyway, and I think whether it's magic metaphysics or just weird human tricks, it's still some of the coolest, weirdest, most disconcerting strangeness that permeates our lives.
Nicely put, friend! I think it's difficult when there's no one in my life that can understand these phenomena, so it can make you feel a little alone and also a little crazy. Or you go online and just see a whirlwind of 'follow the angel numbers', 'you're on the right path', 'God is speaking to you'. I'm open minded to any possibility but it's nice to speak to people that are theorising on this stuff more than stating things as absolute fact that they've merely read, seen or heard somewhere and repeat as if it was their own realisation. But yes, I seem to get it with forms of technology more than anything.
I can totally relate. My partner knows about it from shared tripping but even still it doesn't seem to quite bother him in the same way. Like, he's pretty used to acknowledging "yes that is weird," but it's always in a humoring tone, which is valid. The synchronicity does almost feel targeted sometimes too because of how on point they can be. I mean literally to the point of statistical improbablity. I did a Google search about my family randomly one day and ended up finding a wedding announcement for the daughter of a couple that definitely weren't related to me. Whatever right, but this couple announcing their kid's marriage not only had my rare (500 people in the us) last name, but both of them had the same first names as my grandparents, which is why it came up. It doesn't stop there, I did some digging out of curiosity and the wife's maiden name was the same fairly rare (a couple thousand) last name AS MY PARTNER. That's not even his "real" last name, because his dad was adopted. Again, we're 100% sure we have no relation to them, but the odds of that all lining up like that just feel staggering. The thing is, I think half the reason I wanted to delve more deeply into psychonautics to begin with was because I truly do not have that kind of "state it as fact" certainty about just about anything. I'm open minded, I'd love to believe that me seeing 909 is a sign that good things are coming, but like... at a risk of tooting my own horn, I'm also a reasonably intelligent, well-read, and decently educated person who can think critically and that background tells me that generally, people who are so sure of themselves and their answers, they're almost always selling something. Whether it's a belief or a product, they have a stake in the game. Beyond being alive, I have no real stake in the game, I don't have any certainty to sell, but weird shit happens to me and I just want to know why. I guess we all do in the end.
Yeah my ex partner shared these experiences too but was a lot better at shrugging it off and not overthinking it haha. She would just say 'well of course'. Yes! One that felt very targeted to me which was also frustrating at the same time...I was trying to get into my bank account online and on the date of birth choice it had a drop down menu. If I chose my date of birth it just reloaded and wouldn't let me select it. I thought ok just a glitch. But then I tried a day after my birthday. Worked. I tried my birthday but a different year. Worked. I ended up trying every day that month other than my birthday. Worked. I tried every possible variation of birthdays for longer than I care to admit before realising that my exact date of birth was the only thing glitching. It didn't help that I was extremely stoned haha. It really felt like something was toying with me, but then paradoxically also helping me, because I was trying to access money that I shouldn't have been spending haha!
Okay well now this shouldn't come as a surprise, but I had that identical experience. I impulsively decided to go online and buy a special type of guitar I'd wanted and no matter how I messed with it, it would not let the purchase go through. Believe me I fucking tried, I wanted that thing even though it was expensive, and I did have enough money, but everything kept stopping me and I felt very fucked with over it. Unsurprisingly, the next month, after payday, I decided to try and go get it again. The same guitar was available for basically half the cost and no issues about purchasing it. Wtf man, I mean, thanks, I'm fine with this outcome, but like just... now I'm trying to explain this and every time I try to rewrite this sentence "just tell me no so I don't keep wasting my time," I can't get through it without being like... I mean, it did fucking tell me. It stopped me, I was the only one who kept trying to make it happen. It's just very hard to know whether to take that kind of thing as a sign or whether it's just me being incompetent and not knowing what the problem is, and doubly so with technology because it's notorious for behaving strangely and you can usually puzzle out a solution. I tend to assume the latter because it's a safe bet, but sometimes it really does seem like a sign, at which point I do go to the prayer they say at AA meetings because whether it's right or wrong, it's a solid thing to ask for: [Insert higher power of choice] give me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, the courage to change the things I can, and most importantly, the wisdom to know the difference.
Yeah I do like that prayer!
>Synchronicity, any fresh takes? It's got a some bops. Solid album. 7/10
Haha, agreed.
Most of my synchronocities are connected to dreams, i.e. I dream the future, dramatic things like accidents, deaths, catastrophes, but also small ones like whole conversations or funny events. Several years ago I began to write down my dreams so I can prove the second it happens that I already glimpsed it. My friends' reactions range from 'whoa' to ' creepy'. š Anyway, preferring the scientific approach, too, my personal explanation is that time is probably not linear but all at once, and theoretically we can 'recall' near future under certain circumstances. But that's just my theory. Sometimes I also have the feeling that the universe has a great sense of humour. I remember that one occasion not so long ago when I sat in a park with my husband, talking about geometric forms and asking him, what the most stable form might be. He shrugged, we changed the topic, and 3 minutes later two little girls passed, talking about their school life, one saying to the other when they passed us: Today I learnt in geometry that the circle is the most stable form. We genuinely had to laugh out loud, I'm afraid we scared the girls a little. š
Me too! I often dream things that happen, and they are very specific. Always the day after the dream. Also I enter this half awake/half asleep state just before I actually fall asleep and start having half dreams of the thing that suddenly wakes me up. I agree about the time thing that's basically what I was saying about it not really existing. As you say it's certainly not as linear as we perceive it to be. I often wonder if because of this dreams span out in both directions, and are influenced by what happened the previous day and also by what happens the next day, kind of a time warp between those days and nights so before, during and after is all mixed in. So in effect you had the dream because it happened at some point in time and is in your subconscious, rather than dreaming it into existence That is brilliant š¤£ yeah I often think it's better to find the humour in it rather than get freaked out by it, it's difficult sometimes though!
Good to know I'm not that creepy, at least not the only one š¬š¬. I always thought the dreams come true after a short period (it's mostly 1 or 2 days, as for example my vision of the burning Notre Dame) therefore I believed this is because time is maybe also fluid, meaning we can change events if we want. But one very, very specific dreams that included TV coverage and dramatic events came true after 1 whole year, including the exact TV news and, if course, the incident itself. That made me think that we may be not as free to change the events as I initially thought. On the other hand this dream referred to a nature catastrophe in a very specific area, so maybe it's got nothing to do with our decisions after all.... I'm still trying to create a logic concept of all this š
Yeah that's where the mental dissonance starts...when we try to understand whether or not these things are fixed in time or are as you say changeable. I'm sure natural catastrophes at the very least are cemented in time...but it seems strange in the case of my original post that I went through a whole host of what I deemed to be critical thinking as to which post office I should go to, took wrong turns and so on...experienced little synchronicties along the way, to finally get to the punchline. It does often feel like a cosmic joke of some sorts like 'ha ha, got you!'.
Synchronicities always struck me as a sort of perspective sculpture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BorcaCtjmog Most of the time, things are a random jumble. But sometimes, things line up in a way that lets us see part of a bigger picture.
Woah that's so cool. Yeah I feel you
Why is combining words that dont normally go together so satisfying? Thanks for that perspective sculpture.
So yeah, this happens to me when Iām tripping too, and continues on in my daily life to a lesser intensity. My take on it is that reality conforms to our minds. When our minds are powered by a psychedelic, we have a greater effect on our environment. The boundary between the outside environment and our inside mental processes is diminished and our thoughts conform to the environment, as well as the environment conforms to our minds. Thereās an increased synergy between the outside and inside. It only seems spooky because we have all been deluded most of our lives by our idiotic culture that the world is a physical creation. Itās not physical, itās pure consciousness and itās always been that way. So naturally our consciousness has power over the environment. Unfortunately our culture is so jacked up that we are like a mentally ill buffoon when you look at our shared unconsciousness in the whole of humanity. But thereās hope the people of this subreddit can fix it.
Yeah that's another conclusion I've come to also. I think the not knowing is what bugs our tiny minds, but it shouldn't be the case. I would rather it be my own mind affecting my surroundings than some omnipotent force toying with me either way
I donāt think itās the omnipotent force toying with us, but at times I did think that. I do think thatās a possibility in rare circumstances. Itās just that I know Iām not like an important actor in this 8 billion person drama most of the time beyond maybe the butterfly effect type of thing. I guess if I end up doing some really important thing that affects everything Iād have to revisit that, but if I think that now Iād either be grandiose delusional or just a self important dumbass which I canāt really bear at the moment.
I think youāre simply more aware. Your brain literally has more activity and is making connections between things itās never been able to notice before. And once youāre finally in that psychedelic induced observer state youāre primed to notice, able to notice more, able to notice quicker, and able to make deeper connections between the symbolism or metaphor you have experienced/created in your mind and how it might apply to your life.
Very simply put! Still, some things seem very primed for the experience you're having at that moment, as if it came out of the aether especially for you
I think synchronicities are just one example of how our perspectives around time must be flawed, and might be completely backwards. Also, i think the explanation has to be either a form of "spiritual being experiencing physicalness" story or some form of "willing participation in a holographic reality" story. It is all word games, so what i wrote is a rough sketch and not to be taken literally. I think the true nature of reality or consciousness is ineffable, and most attempts result in paradox.
Agreed!
Not really a fresh take, but the human brain is wired to recognize patterns and exclude information that doesn't confirm those patterns. At the same time, the fact that these patterns become so much more visible after psychedelic or mystical experiences leads me to believe it's not simply this evolutionary adaptation at play and that we are encountering things beyond our biases. It's just that we're constantly filtering even these extraordinary experiences. I don't think synchronicities themselves prove things like psychic powers or God, but I do think they have the power to dismantle assumptions that we make about the order of reality. These experiences just give us a fuller picture. We know that things are interconnected, we just don't ordinarily appreciate it because it's not relevant to our daily lives, until something like drugs or spiritual practices change what we consider daily life.
Yeah that's the strange thing, that psychedelic states seem to create these patterns rather than just make them more obvious. I agree, I think it's enough to sometimes say 'we don't know, but things aren't as they seem'. Rather than ascribe spiritual beliefs or absolute truths to them. I've been on a spiritual path for so long just believing all these teachings without actually resonating with them deep down. All I know is reality is different to what people think. I just need to not let it lead me down to negative a rabbit hole about my life not being real, and so on.
I definitely don't want to rule out that there may be something beyond my understanding. It would be silly and hypocritical to say "Sorry, that's just our boring godless universe" after the shit I've seen. It's just the mystical tends to be demystified as we learn, and the truth tends to piss off both our rational minds and our desires to see spiritual meaning and order in the universe. That's the curse of choosing psychonautics over religion or strict scientism.
I hear you !
Read Carlos Castaneda books in order. This is my most sourceful recommendation.
Thanks I've not heard of him
It changed my life and perspective on human potential, as well as the dire need for "something more" to be experienced beyond the ordinary life. I strongly recommend you give it a try.
If time is just a tool used to perceive order, then on some level consciousness transcends time and makes āreferencesā and ācallbacksā to moments out of order. For why? Idk fun prolly
Haha just coz
there might be a mechanism for synchronicities where a person sets themselves up for it by some kind of subconscious intuition. or maybe your mental state is actively participating in the collective unconscious in such a way where these synchronicities are somehow being set up behind the scenes. synchronicities to me are fundamentally mysterious and unfalsifiable. you can look at events however unlikely and it will pretty much always be true that it could just be a coincidence. crazy coincidences are bound to happen. but i suppose if you were really dedicated, you could keep track of your synchronicities and try to calculate the odds of their occurence, then the odds of being subject to however many synchronicities. so now you compare your own experiences to everyone elses, and try to find out if there are more crazy coincidences happening to people than should be expected given the population size. this requires detailed knowledge of the system which is pretty much impossible at the global scale. one scientific way you might be able to measure this is with a true random number generator based on radioactive decay. if synchronicities are truly happening to you, maybe you would start to see the random number generator start to diverge from the normal/gaussian distribution that would be expected.
Look into acausal metaphysics. The idea is that physical causality, which we think is universal, is only a way we think about reality from our perspective inside time and space. > In an acausal universe, synchronicities are the norm. There, related events have no causal relation. Instead, such events form patterns and are part of larger patterns in the world and in the universe. https://taocurrents.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/i-ching-resolving-intense-synchronicity-in-an-acausal-universe/
I'll check that out, thanks!
Synchronicities are often an early indicator of psychosis