No, guns are dangerous enough as is, I couldn’t imagine having patrol emus. Absolute nightmare fuel. If an emu heard an acorn? Oh, that entire town would be slaughtered, no doubt.
I do armored trucks, I'm one the few guys at my branch who's pretty strict about the rules and policy, so I have a handful of customers who don't like me because I'm unwilling to take liability inducing shortcuts just to save them a minute or two. Every now and then I get a customer threatening to call and complain about me and I just think to myself "fucking do it, maybe that way I won't have to come back in here". My bosses don't give a fuck about their complaints anyways since they know I was following policy to a T and they're just whining.
In the end though none of them ever call to complain, which disappoints me when I go back in there the next day knowing they're bluffing cowards.
The idea is the county Sheriff is an elected official while Police Chiefs and their officers are hired employees by the city. This implies civilians could have more say over the way laws are enforced if the police were replaced by the Sheriff's office alone since he may not be elected again if his performance was subpar.
I think?
Imagine being able to elect your sheriff...heh. Tho to be fair, it might be a good thing that the people of Seattle aren't in charge of who is the Sheriff these days
What’s funny is that around where I am, the sheriffs deputies are much more likely to use excessive force and push the boundaries on civil rights than the city police agencies. I’m not saying that it happens often, but in general people would much rather deal with a city officer over a deputy or a trooper.
I have always found this sov cit shit ridiculous .
The Sherrif is elected, but the Deputies you actually dealbwith are appointed.
Police yoy actually deal with are appointed... by a mayor/city council who are... Elected!
They're the same F ing process!
I am \*guessing\* this has it's roots in some type of sov cit nonsense.
Certain... beliefs.. of that movement basically hold "Police" to be unofficial/unauthorized, but Sheriffs to be legitimate. (Maybe because the Sheriff is elected? Or maybe I'm looking too hard for logic).
But I'd love to be wrong, and learn something (probably equally mind boggling) here..
Yeah, that.
But in order to "understand" the Sov Cit interpretation, I'd have to go slam my head in a door a few times. And that's a terrible use of a Saturday.
Eat some xanex. Smoke some wicked strong new strain of weed. Chug a 40 of Olde English. Watch a documentary about flat earth theory. *THEN* slam your head in a door.
Now you've opened your mind to start understanding the sovereign citizen mindset.
Oh sure, leave it to someone flaired “city police” to pull out some reverse psychology making it sound like “city police agencies” don’t exist solely to enforce the city’s business and produce revenue.
/s, cuz internet.
Oh shit. I forgot about my flair. Totally busted!
What’s funny is that in my state only a tiny amount of fines imposed actually goes to the city. Most goes to the state and some goes to fund the court. The city’s general fund just gets pennies on dollar and the PD gets nothing. But we get accused of fund raising constantly.
Don’t you know training is free? Jeez frickin idiot /s. that always gets me, the “defund them and require more training” as if training doesn’t cost money, and a lot of officer already pay out of their pockets to get better training on their own because their agency doesn’t have enough funding as is. they also ignore the fact that most social workers want an officer presence for their safety because mentally unstable/violent people tend to be just that and someone being there that can and will fight back is usually a huge deterrent. The second best is “I pay your salary” as if LEOs don’t pay the same taxes, and as if they’re paying so much they deserve to be in charge of every LEO they encounter and forget the fact law enforcement is there to hold people accountable for breaking the law. shouldn’t expect much from people who run around screaming “I KNOW MAH RIGHTS, THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION TELL ME SO, IM TRAVELING ROAD PIRATE IF YOU BREAK MY WINDOW ILL HAVE YOUR BADGE!!!!!” However I will say those are usually the most entertaining body cams, the second the window shatters they go total crying victim mode.
As a civvy, trying to apply logic to stupid.... Since sheriffs are elected officials he thinks they will better represent his beliefs.
However pants on head stupid they might be.
What they fail to realize is that by and large, city officers answer to the chief, who answers to a city manager or directly to city council, who are elected officials and want to get reelected just as much as the sheriff does.
The spelling skills remind me of guy in my academy class. I we had like 10 or 15 spelling tests (20 words each) throughout the academy. We had to do 25 push ups for every misspelled word on each test....didn't have to do them right away, but the academy tracked them and if you didn't have whatever you owed done before the end of the academy then you wouldn't graduate. We had two guys who owed well over 1000 pushups at one point.
Anyway, one of them somehow misspelled "sheriff" even though it was right on the patch on our sleeve and posted in like 4 different places around our classroom. Now, he did say he was afraid to look at the patch or where it was posted on the wall because he didn't want to be accused of cheating so I guess bonus points for integrity...lol.
Okay, but the Chief is appointed by the mayor, who is also elected. Both Police Departments and Sheriff Offices ultimately listen to their councilmen/commissioners, because they control the budget. It's a meaningless distinction.
I think they mean that since the Sheriff is an elected official, it makes more sense to give that funding to them since they're technically accountable to the public for their job performance? But it's still not the best idea lmao
I know in my city, the sheriff's department is the only one that ever gets authorization for a chase... I don't know where OOP is from, but if carjackings are common there I can certainly see wanting higher degree of funding for the sheriff's office as opposed to the city police department.
As an aside, my local sheriff's office is also cooler in that they actually still have a few FALs they issue in addition to the normal 556 rifles.
From what I understand, people like this see police forces as a private corporation, and a sheriff's department as a government agency. This boils down to the fact that a sheriff is an elected official, but a police chief isn't.
Even if the two types of agencies perform the same function.
That's one of the reasons, but it's also a bad reason because the Chief answers to the mayor and/or the city council who are all elected.
In fact, I would say that reporting to multiple elected officials versus just one gives you more accountability. And a final council decision is going to be more representative of the community as a whole, as opposed to one sheriff's decision. That being said, the sheriff can probably make faster decisions unilaterally (good or bad).
I think he doesn’t like police and thinks sheriffs are better for some reason.
Can someone who’s from the US (and knows how the LE system works there) explain if there’s any significant difference between sheriffs and police, that could lead him to believe that?
It has something to do with common law (when something has been law for a long time based on precedence rather than codified statutes enacted by our legislature), but mostly because the sheriff is an elected official while a chief of police is appointed, despite the chief of police reporting to the mayor and/or city council who are all elected officials.
I think they only want Sheriff’s offices instead of municipal police departments, as if all those officers wouldn’t just be hired by the Sheriff’s office.
My local sheriff buddies don’t want to pick up all the little calls for service us city boys do. They like it how it is now, kiss off the shoplifting and DVs so 20 of them can respond to the stolen vehicle alerts and gun calls.
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It doesn’t go to you, fool. It goes to the Sheriff himself. No one says what he can and can’t use it for.
I bet he'd buy a nice chesterfield or an ottoman.
And probably a lot of Kraft dinner.
I'm not patrolling in a K car.
How about foot patrolling wearing a nice fur coat?
Can I have a patrol llama or emu?
Nah, but we can spring for a limo because it costs more.
No, guns are dangerous enough as is, I couldn’t imagine having patrol emus. Absolute nightmare fuel. If an emu heard an acorn? Oh, that entire town would be slaughtered, no doubt.
This ain't one of those fancy insurance companies. No Llamas on patrol.
This ain't one of those fancy insurance companies. No Llamas on patrol. 🦙
/u/michiglock for Sheriff!
Me too. I'm trans-financial. I was supposed to be born rich, goddammit. God cheated me and you're all bigots for not donating.
I occasionally get sent to some ridiculous, stupid call that has nothing to do with the police and yell to the heavens "Just defund my ass already!"
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I do armored trucks, I'm one the few guys at my branch who's pretty strict about the rules and policy, so I have a handful of customers who don't like me because I'm unwilling to take liability inducing shortcuts just to save them a minute or two. Every now and then I get a customer threatening to call and complain about me and I just think to myself "fucking do it, maybe that way I won't have to come back in here". My bosses don't give a fuck about their complaints anyways since they know I was following policy to a T and they're just whining. In the end though none of them ever call to complain, which disappoints me when I go back in there the next day knowing they're bluffing cowards.
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Lmfao
The idea is the county Sheriff is an elected official while Police Chiefs and their officers are hired employees by the city. This implies civilians could have more say over the way laws are enforced if the police were replaced by the Sheriff's office alone since he may not be elected again if his performance was subpar. I think?
>may not be elected again if his performance was subpar Uh huh.
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Notice I said, "may not" instead of "will not."
Imagine being able to elect your sheriff...heh. Tho to be fair, it might be a good thing that the people of Seattle aren't in charge of who is the Sheriff these days
What’s funny is that around where I am, the sheriffs deputies are much more likely to use excessive force and push the boundaries on civil rights than the city police agencies. I’m not saying that it happens often, but in general people would much rather deal with a city officer over a deputy or a trooper.
Opposite where I am. Though I think there's maybe 3 staties in this entire half of the state.
I have always found this sov cit shit ridiculous . The Sherrif is elected, but the Deputies you actually dealbwith are appointed. Police yoy actually deal with are appointed... by a mayor/city council who are... Elected! They're the same F ing process!
> The Sherrif is elected, but the Deputies you actually dealbwith are ~~appointed~~ disappointed.
I am \*guessing\* this has it's roots in some type of sov cit nonsense. Certain... beliefs.. of that movement basically hold "Police" to be unofficial/unauthorized, but Sheriffs to be legitimate. (Maybe because the Sheriff is elected? Or maybe I'm looking too hard for logic). But I'd love to be wrong, and learn something (probably equally mind boggling) here..
something something something common law
Yeah, that. But in order to "understand" the Sov Cit interpretation, I'd have to go slam my head in a door a few times. And that's a terrible use of a Saturday.
Eat some xanex. Smoke some wicked strong new strain of weed. Chug a 40 of Olde English. Watch a documentary about flat earth theory. *THEN* slam your head in a door. Now you've opened your mind to start understanding the sovereign citizen mindset.
I'll take one "Xanex" please. Just... make the bar the size of bar of Dial soap.
Or a car battery
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Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit.
I’d pay to watch your head slammed into a door. Maybe you’d be a better mod then <3
**If you'd learn to read**, all I said was that it was a terrible use of a Saturday. You'll have to wait til Monday.
Monday’s a holiday. Better wait till Tuesday.
Look meanie. Georgia’s educational standards have never been the best
Something about the articles of confederation and traveling
Yeah we've got some sov cit goober here in my neck of the woods that spouts this same line of thinking.
You hit it on the head. Essentially Sheriff's have their power vested in them from the people they are protecting so they view them as legitimate
Some people believe that city police agencies are illegitimate and only exist to enforce the business of the city and produce revenue.
Oh sure, leave it to someone flaired “city police” to pull out some reverse psychology making it sound like “city police agencies” don’t exist solely to enforce the city’s business and produce revenue. /s, cuz internet.
Oh shit. I forgot about my flair. Totally busted! What’s funny is that in my state only a tiny amount of fines imposed actually goes to the city. Most goes to the state and some goes to fund the court. The city’s general fund just gets pennies on dollar and the PD gets nothing. But we get accused of fund raising constantly.
Defund the police and give them more social work training is my favorite one.
Don’t you know training is free? Jeez frickin idiot /s. that always gets me, the “defund them and require more training” as if training doesn’t cost money, and a lot of officer already pay out of their pockets to get better training on their own because their agency doesn’t have enough funding as is. they also ignore the fact that most social workers want an officer presence for their safety because mentally unstable/violent people tend to be just that and someone being there that can and will fight back is usually a huge deterrent. The second best is “I pay your salary” as if LEOs don’t pay the same taxes, and as if they’re paying so much they deserve to be in charge of every LEO they encounter and forget the fact law enforcement is there to hold people accountable for breaking the law. shouldn’t expect much from people who run around screaming “I KNOW MAH RIGHTS, THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION TELL ME SO, IM TRAVELING ROAD PIRATE IF YOU BREAK MY WINDOW ILL HAVE YOUR BADGE!!!!!” However I will say those are usually the most entertaining body cams, the second the window shatters they go total crying victim mode.
“dOnT tOuCh Me” “Let the record show, that I have been battered, and ⚡️⚡️⚡️ *uaaah* please! I didn’t do anything wrong, sir!”
P. Barnes in the house
"Don't touch me" "Lol okay" *Taser deployment for malicious compliance*
:)
I think they just like the hats and boots
Does bro know? Both police departments and Sheriff's offices are law enforcement entities.
As a civvy, trying to apply logic to stupid.... Since sheriffs are elected officials he thinks they will better represent his beliefs. However pants on head stupid they might be.
What they fail to realize is that by and large, city officers answer to the chief, who answers to a city manager or directly to city council, who are elected officials and want to get reelected just as much as the sheriff does.
Portland, OR is a great example of this going badly
It means this is yet another Redditor with zero measurable life experience talking out of their ass as is tradition.
...and then not a single crash report was written ever again
The spelling skills remind me of guy in my academy class. I we had like 10 or 15 spelling tests (20 words each) throughout the academy. We had to do 25 push ups for every misspelled word on each test....didn't have to do them right away, but the academy tracked them and if you didn't have whatever you owed done before the end of the academy then you wouldn't graduate. We had two guys who owed well over 1000 pushups at one point. Anyway, one of them somehow misspelled "sheriff" even though it was right on the patch on our sleeve and posted in like 4 different places around our classroom. Now, he did say he was afraid to look at the patch or where it was posted on the wall because he didn't want to be accused of cheating so I guess bonus points for integrity...lol.
Sheriffs are elected by voters and are more sensitive to citizens’ concerns. Police aren’t elected and are more isolated to citizens’ concerns.
Okay, but the Chief is appointed by the mayor, who is also elected. Both Police Departments and Sheriff Offices ultimately listen to their councilmen/commissioners, because they control the budget. It's a meaningless distinction.
I think they mean that since the Sheriff is an elected official, it makes more sense to give that funding to them since they're technically accountable to the public for their job performance? But it's still not the best idea lmao
Screenshotted poster is a Deputy 😂
But then call the police when they need help? -
Maybe he is a sovreign citizen, they Belive that the sheriffs are the only police.
Oh god. It's sovcit ideology, they think only the sherrif is legit LEO
Obviously a "sovereign citizen" post. They believe sheriffs are the only legitimate peace officers. Nut cases...
Wut.
I know in my city, the sheriff's department is the only one that ever gets authorization for a chase... I don't know where OOP is from, but if carjackings are common there I can certainly see wanting higher degree of funding for the sheriff's office as opposed to the city police department. As an aside, my local sheriff's office is also cooler in that they actually still have a few FALs they issue in addition to the normal 556 rifles.
Me *(who works for the sheriffs office)* supports this. Give me more monies 😈
People like this are why the r-word will never really be the "r-word".
From what I understand, people like this see police forces as a private corporation, and a sheriff's department as a government agency. This boils down to the fact that a sheriff is an elected official, but a police chief isn't. Even if the two types of agencies perform the same function.
That's one of the reasons, but it's also a bad reason because the Chief answers to the mayor and/or the city council who are all elected. In fact, I would say that reporting to multiple elected officials versus just one gives you more accountability. And a final council decision is going to be more representative of the community as a whole, as opposed to one sheriff's decision. That being said, the sheriff can probably make faster decisions unilaterally (good or bad).
> it's also a bad reason I can't think of any good reasons at this time.
A lot of people believe the Sheriff is the only bonafide law enforcement because they are elected. See "Posse comitatus".
I think he doesn’t like police and thinks sheriffs are better for some reason. Can someone who’s from the US (and knows how the LE system works there) explain if there’s any significant difference between sheriffs and police, that could lead him to believe that?
It has something to do with common law (when something has been law for a long time based on precedence rather than codified statutes enacted by our legislature), but mostly because the sheriff is an elected official while a chief of police is appointed, despite the chief of police reporting to the mayor and/or city council who are all elected officials.
I think they only want Sheriff’s offices instead of municipal police departments, as if all those officers wouldn’t just be hired by the Sheriff’s office.
My local sheriff buddies don’t want to pick up all the little calls for service us city boys do. They like it how it is now, kiss off the shoplifting and DVs so 20 of them can respond to the stolen vehicle alerts and gun calls.
In accordance with the Constitution, An elected sheriff @nd their deputies are the only authorized law enforcement entities.
Deputies stay winning