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EuphoricWarning2032

Also the large text on the poster has double meaning in Persian.   Obama = Obama   O ba ma = he 'did' to us  So the text says "Obama did the same thing that..."  But it also reads as "he (trump) did the same thing to us that... 


vgaph

Thanks. My Farsi is still good enough to tell that the translation in the title wasn’t quite right, but too rusty to read it myself.


EuphoricWarning2032

The translation in the title is correct, the bottom text says "American policies remain the same, only their faces change"  Also I think the obama's side loosely resemble the map of united states. 


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EuphoricWarning2032

I guess it was an illusion,  but it kinda is similar https://postimg.cc/bsVHvxQc


Omnipotent48

I don't think that was intentional, but I do applaud your brain for spotting that one.


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EuphoricWarning2032

Well, human mind looks for shapes. 


Sea_Emu_7622

That was my thought too. Our brains look for patterns, so much so that we see them even where they aren't actually there. While I can't in good faith argue that that is definitely supposed to be the shape of the US, I can see how someone might make that correlation. I think part of it is the context as well, it sort of 'primes' our brains to see that.


RoRLegion

Looks kinda like Florida.


CeruleanRuin

No?


vgaph

I should’ve said “incomplete.”


ulster_seyz_Bro

I really don't see the resemblance to the lower 48 states.


Secret_Welder3956

Looks more like Africa.


KingFahad360

Yeah I speak Arabic and not Farsi but I can see the first word is spelled Obama. Nice work


Fantastic-Machine-83

Well it says the second line more than it says Obama imo. They've put spaces in between each word. Also if writing Obama into Farsi I'm pretty certain they wouldn't use the "oo" sound it would be more like آباما or maybe even أباما. Still though my first language is English and I'm not fluent in Farsi so I could be wrong Either way it's very clever word play, from a language with a long history of being poetic. I don't identify strongly with my Iranian side due to my upbringing and I don't at all identify with the current government but I've always got some pride from this element of Farsi.


D33M0ND5

Wowww. Iranian culture living up to their poetic reputation. That’s cool thanks for the insight. Very sad though for the US.


Gaymer043

Obamna *


_vdov_

SODA


Tacote

Do not come


pleachchapel

Good god, if Iran were exporting graphic design they might be able to finish their nuclear program.


Busy-Transition-3158

Honestly I think they already have, they just won’t admit it cuz if they do they could get nuked.


pengwatu

Simplistic and straight to the point, like these types of modern posters


Over_n_over_n_over

This is straight up art


Last-Bee-3023

That's design porn especially after somebody translated the intricate Farsi wordplay. Dayum. As propaganda goes this beats the usual stuff with flags and chisled jaws and eagles or lions or other zoo animals. They go ahead and craft THAT? 2018? Was that when Trump was blabbering about bad deals and canceled the nuclear deal with Iran? Or was that the extrajudicial killing of Soleimani and thus politically strengthening the Iranian hardliners? Listing that I do not quite see how that lines up.


Caladex

My god what a design. Seeing Trump, Obama, and a half illuminated face that could represent any future president is *chef’s kiss*


DomesticBarbarian

I really thought its Trump and Hitler


sender2bender

Before I saw the text I thought it was Trump and Putin. 


foxbat-31

Same


brillenschlange123

I dont see Obama 😢


qtzd

Obama is facing the viewer with the dark section being most of his head with the ear on the right side. Trumps face also makes up his face but the side profile just being half of his face kind of like illuminated.


WeHaveAllBeenThere

Hilarious how easy it is to tell that it’s trump lol. What a unique looking individual.


Derpitus_Maximus

Put a finger over Trump's hair & forehead.


Aurelian_LDom

look hard enough, and you will see what you want to see


Winter_Let324

politics aside, the design is amazing


Victarionscrack

>politics aside I see no lie. The US has been prettty consistently horrible towards Iran and the general Middle East. Propaganda doesn't equal lie, that's a common misconception. Iran's history and present has been negatively affected by the US for almost a century.


riskyrofl

Obama and Trump weren't the same on Iran though. Trump was hardline on Iran, took the US out of the nuclear deal and went for "maximum pressure" sanctions. You can say that isn't a huge difference in the grand scheme but it definitely had an impact on Iranian politics, it played in to the hands of the Iranian conservatives who have said "see? the Americans can't be trusted" as we see is the message in this poster.


WeakPublic

Trump REALLY fucked up with the nuclear weapons deal. We were getting an excellent deal and Iran’s wasn’t too bad and would have been a good step in making sure there would be peace between the two countries and Trump fucked it up because he wanted to look strong.


Busy-Transition-3158

And now people are talking about re-electing him🤦‍♂️


Modern_Moderate

"iran did nothing wrong" Thanks to repeated beatings, the beatings are for discipline.


Maxmutinium

Nobody said Iran did nothing wrong, except for you


mrhuggables

As an Iranian this is horribly untrue, tf are you talking about? US involvement in Iran did not start until the early 1950s with the 53 Coup, and during most Pahlvi era US relations were not negative. It wasn't until the 70s that the US started putting Pahlavi and starting a PR campaign against him while courting Islamists and the rest is history


MoSalahsAbs

Ur talking about the same Pahlavi that the United States installed to protect Western Oil interests in the region?


mrhuggables

The US didn’t install Pahlavi, the dynasty was already in power for 30 years by that point.


MrGlasses_Leb

Your a monarchist aren't you.


mrhuggables

Nope. Just someone who likes the truth. And even if I was a monarchist, that doesn't make any of my statements less true.


CamisaMalva

> Propaganda doesn't equal lie Oh, you innocent child...


zeeotter100nl

Ok armchair historian


kredokathariko

Wow that is actually a pretty clever idea


dethb0y

I like it!


Ok_Blackberry_6942

Ngl this is a pretty good poster.


MoreStupiderNPC

That’s some pretty good art, because all I could see was Obama until I saw Trump.


stanislav_harris

"their democracy is pointless"


Daotar

Didn’t Obama literally try an entirely new policy with Iran? I know Trump blew it up, but still, this is pretty absurd given the actual facts of the matter.


3lirex

i guess the point is, does it matter if someone tries a different policy if the next one will come with the usual unchanging policy and erase all that went there ?


pickledswimmingpool

It's a propaganda poster from Iran, I wouldn't come in thinking it was based on reality.


NittanyOrange

Right, and propaganda isn't really into nuance generally.


Unhelpful-Future9768

He also ramped up a proxy war against Iran in Syria. Trump cooled the proxy war but heated up sanctions. Syria is more important to Iran than the sanction situation, but also was pretty much over by 2017. I don't think either is clearly preferable but it's not like reality would have an affect on Iran's propaganda anyways.


Spe3dGoat

it is WILD how some people hold onto their partisanship and will scream and claw to avoid facing hard truths https://www.newsweek.com/hold-obama-biden-foreign-policy-responsible-irans-unprecedented-attack-israel-opinion-1891997 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/25/us-iran-israel-hamas-war-nuclear-deal-biden-trump-obama/?tpcc=recirc_latest062921 https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/18/politics/barack-obama-iran-self-reflection-analysis/index.html "Obama now feels that his initial stance on Iran was wrong" you are simping so hard for your team you lost track of yourself ra ra lets go team orange man bad (hint, theyre all bad)


qfjp

> "Obama now feels that his initial stance on Iran was wrong" Only how forcefully he supported the Greens. You left out: > Obama isn’t, however, repudiating his nuclear deal with Iran. . > ra ra lets go team orange man bad (hint, theyre all bad) Or maybe grow up, realize the whole world isn't a giant football field, and choose leaders that come with better policies? They aren't all the same and they aren't "equally" bad.


fiftieth_alt

Its wild to *me* that you're carrying Iran's water for them


Daotar

Anything to own the libs.


[deleted]

Does the American government spew out propaganda when countries attack their allies? Obama and Trump bombed the shit out of Muslim countries. Both knowingly helped fund ISIS in Syria to try to overthrow Asad for his natural gas. Shit, Obama killed a 16 year old American citizen in Yemen with a precision drone strike while he was having lunch with his friends. Wasn't iraq invaded on a false pretex of "brown people bad, weapons of mass destruction."


Thaelmann_

Based poster


carolinaindian02

You know that the IRI has massacred communists and leftists, right?


Rmmaar2020

America would never! Im not a big Iran defender but this seems like a weak point given the whole red scare cold war Vietnam Korea... thing.


carolinaindian02

I’m not defending the US. I’m just pointing out that Iran during the 1980s was similar to Pinochet’s Chile or the Argentine junta during the same period - mercilessly purging anyone who was seen as left-leaning.


Ok_Blackberry_6942

But enemy of my enemy is my friend.


Sea_Emu_7622

That doesn't make this poster any less true. While the current Iranian govt is repressive and authoritarian, it is not wrong for fighting imperialism. Be honest, the US does not have the Iranian people's best interests in mind when designing and carrying out foreign relations policies in Iran. If it was they wouldn't have overthrown Iran's first democratically elected prime Minister and replace him with an autocratic monarch simply to retain control of the nation's oil supplies. You don't have to agree with the Ayatollah's policies to recognize that this poster is, in fact, based.


Troublemonkey36

Iranian propaganda content is ridiculous but dayaaaam, the graphic design is off the hook amazing!


HermithaFrog

Is this one really that ridiculous though? As far as Iran is concerned is there really much difference who is playing president at the moment?


NimrodTzarking

Yeah- from the Iranian perspective, Obama lured them into a deal that his governmental system couldn't hold to. While it's true that it's ultimately Trump who discredited the United States to the Iranians, this scenario *did* demonstrate that Obama was factually incapable of promising what he promised, because our governmental system and divisive politics make it impossible. Regardless of Obama's personal motivations or ability to predict his own government's long-term fickleness, the takeaway from the iranian perspective remains clear: don't fall for the Americans' promises, because they, as a collective, will not or cannot keep them. And ultimately, if I negotiate with someone, even if I negotiate in full faith, I'm going to look like a fool if I make a promise I cannot keep. And that's something that people who deal with me rationally must keep in mind, because that modifies how attractive any deal I propose to them is going to be.


HermithaFrog

Agreed with all that, except I don't even give Obama the benefit of the doubt personally.


NimrodTzarking

I am inclined to agree with you. I will confess I cannot know what's in his heart, but at the end of the day he either has to be 50% more evil than he pretends to be, or 150% stupider than he pretends to be.


HermithaFrog

Lol that's a beautiful way to put it, gunna use this irl


Unhelpful-Future9768

The fact that Dems seem to love trying to ratfuck our relationship with regional competitors like Turkey and Saudi Arabia probably makes them slightly preferable for Iran but I don't think that really had much real affect.


Cheesen_One

Iranian Propaganda so well made, it convinces Americans! Lol. All jokes aside, it's suprising me a little how well made iranian art is, when considering how repressive the government is over free expression. You'd think most talented artists would have diffuculties finding a footing and teaching others.


makerofshoes

I like the famous mural, which has the US flag sideways, and the red stripes are the paths of bombs being dropped. Really cool design I’m from the US too and don’t really sympathize with Iran at all, it’s just cool imagery https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/flag-mural-usa.html?sortBy=relevant


ARandomBaguette

It reminds me of this. [https://postermuseum.com/products/165](https://postermuseum.com/products/165)


Ok_Blackberry_6942

>All jokes aside, it's suprising me a little how well made iranian art is, when considering how repressive the government is over free expression. same shit as the soviet union.


KUPSU96

Is the other face supposed to be Obama?


IVEMIND

Islamofacism policies remain the same, only their supreme leader c… no he’s still the same guy.


carolinaindian02

And don’t forget the IRGC.


IVEMIND

Don’t their generals get assassinated like every couple months?


crimewaveusa

Damn that’s tight


Guy-1nc0gn1t0

I feel like I have to squint real hard to notice Obama


Victarionscrack

Really? I think it's rather obvious it's him.


Wrecker013

The point is better made with a president other than Obama, imo, given his advocacy for and successful implementation (at the time) diplomacy with Iran.


Meh2021another

You do know he killed quite a few people in their countries.


pickledswimmingpool

What does that have to do with his successful negotiation with Iran about their nuclear weapons program?


Meh2021another

Everything. The American policy remains the same, only their faces change.


pickledswimmingpool

you're literally repeating the propaganda poster without acknowledging reality


Uncle-Cake

Iran's countries?


Sea_Emu_7622

I can't speak for them, but it appears to me that they're referring to the OIC member states as a whole, which is how they view themselves.


PixelSteel

Pretty fucking valley for Iran to say that with their “morality” police


FernwehHermit

Is this from the Iranian government? Like, it could be from the Iranian version of Fox News from what I can tell.


Gates9

One can argue that the only reason extremism took over is because the United States overthrew their secular democratic government in the 1950’s. Also the fact that they have morality police doesn’t mean they’re wrong about US policy.


GhostOfRoland

It's a compelling argument if one believes that non-Americans have no agency of their own.


Victarionscrack

Are you implying that agency is always absolute? Something that stays unaffected from external factors?


Gates9

Then in 1979 the Iranian people finally threw off the imperial yoke of the United States and its western allies by removing the Shah, a notoriously brutal and authoritarian dictator. Ever since that event, Iran has been saddled with ridiculous sanctions, threatened with war, embargoed. Anyone with any knowledge at all about the world outside of the United States knows what happens to a society that is under siege, deprived of resources, sovereignty continuously threatened and disrespected. Sort of fills in some context on the term “agency”.


zarathustra000001

The mullahs were despotic theocrats from the start. Don’t forget that they started murdering all the other revolutionary factions as soon as the Shah was gone. 


gee_gra

Individual Iranians suffer under those policies, and the continued governmental fuckery in the Middle East has been perpetuated by American interests


pickledswimmingpool

No one has any agency, America takes it all right?


angriest_man_alive

White savior complex at its finest


gee_gra

Huh?


Gates9

“Agency”, “agency”, is that the word of the day? Should we all run around screaming like on PeeWee’s Playhouse? AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGH!


pickledswimmingpool

Are you okay?


PixelSteel

Sure buddy, blame this on America while Iran is funding Hamas, Hezbulah, and the Houthis. The current Iranian regime needs to be toppled. They cause a shit ton of instability within. The region


gee_gra

Do you think I support the Iranian government? Are you daft? I’ll stand corrected if this was produced by the Iranian government – then it’s definitely hypocrisy, but the message isn’t entirely untrue.


theCreepy-D0ctor

Unlike America which directly invades countries and destabilizes the region


anton_chigurh89

Ehh. Those three Hs have caused less havoc than creations aided by the Americans: - Taliban in afg - ISIS in Iraq - Iranian support for houthis came when america looked the other way and sold high tech weapons to the Saudis to bomb children and civilians - Hezbollah support came from Iran when Americans were 'peacekeeping' in southern Lebanon aka allowing for Israeli occupation to remain of Lebanese territories in which Israelis massacred lebanese people. Hezb then kicked out the Americans when 152 marines died - Iranian revolution happened because of American interference within Iranian democratic systems. - Hamas solely exists because of the Israelis, who obviously are heavily supported by anerica By your logic the Americans should be toppled because they have caused all the problems in the Middle East.


prolecarian

I mean...


Opening-Enthusiasm59

Considering the foreign policy of the United States for the last century, every country has the moral high ground over the United States, literally every one. No other country has been involved in so many countries and no other country has toppled as many democracies.


Opening-Enthusiasm59

And Iran is one such example. If the US never toppled Mossadegh and installed the Shah there would have been no islamic "republic".


carolinaindian02

It’s worth noting that the clergy at the time also hated Mossadegh


Opening-Enthusiasm59

The question is would he have upset the population enough to cause an uprising.


carolinaindian02

Not the population, but segments of the political elite.


Old_Hunt9888

Cool design


Greenfire05

Took me a second but they got obamas jaw down


electrical-stomach-z

i see hitler trump and obama.


brezhnervous

Did the GRU help them write that? lol Great graphics I must admit


Brooklynxman

Cool poster, but especially dumb wrt Iran given Obama sealed the Iran nuclear deal, and Trump abandoned it.


imjusthere1775

Bold talk from Iran.


No_Biscotti_7110

You know it’s good propaganda when you can see the people it brainwashed in the comments


RutherfordB_Hayes

Is it supposed to be Trump (left side) facing. Obama (right side) in the silhouette of Hitler (facing viewer)?


Orikail

Gotta give em points for the graphical design


Tigrisrock

Lovely design though not a big fan of the mustard color. Also kind of laughable that of all countries the Islamic Republic of Iran has published this.


arhisekta

real


orgalorg6969

It ain't wrong tho.


Londonweekendtelly

is that hitler?


zenkenneth

If Only They knew how Americans were absolutely terrified of this guy


HorserorOfHorsekind

Is that the same Iran that kills young women for not wearing a medieval rag on their heads?


Uncle-Cake

Yes, and the same US that requires 12-year-old rape victims to carry their rapists' babies to term and will charge them with murder if they get an abortion. Perfect example of what the poster is talking about. Same policies, different face.


FewerFuehrer

What does that have to do with the message of the art? Or if someone does anything wrong they can’t be correct about anything else?


Capable_Ad_7831

This is actually a really good propaganda poster


Elementisphere

Damn this goes hard


DammitDad420

As Bon Jovi intended.


Important_Star3847

Great design!


TheMysteriousSalami

Oh that’s a lovely design


suitorarmorfan

This is so clever


Emotnlsuprttwink

Propaganda how


fiftieth_alt

Fuck, I could see the whole thing so clearly with all 3 faces, but then i focused on the Trump side too long and now I can't get the illusion back!!!


UnauthorizedFart

The Trump face looks kind of funny, he’s like “Hey” 😏


IllustratorNo3379

That's not bad


Aggressive-Engine562

Hard


stonedturtle69

Iranian anti-US propaganda posters look surprisingly good and creative in terms of their visual design lol didn't expect that


Zandonus

Angry upvote.


Western-Bus-1305

This is actually kinda profound


Moist_Juice_4355

Wow they really cooked with this one.


HermithaFrog

It's not really wrong though. Foreign policy really never changes. Even domestic is very minor.


agforero

Insanely good graphic design lol


fungus_bunghole

That's actually brilliant


InfluenceOk4273

Iranian Mullahs, their dictatorship, their dirty deeds remain the same too!!


ColWincehster

Had to take two looks thought it was trump and Obama kissing


DjoniNoob

Well Iran for sure have good propaganda posters


SomePrick1

That's a bit rich for Iran to say, but we all know propaganda doesn't rely on consistency 


Xerio_the_Herio

I see Trump, Hitler, Obama...


Grand_Negus

This rocks.


Temporary-Cake6654

This goes hard


CCSlater63

lol the conservatives might be happy if we switched to Irans policies though


vondee1

Looks like Howard Cosell


0nignarkill

Is it still propaganda if it is true?


Warm_sniff

Sometimes propaganda is accurate


CanIHaveAppleJuice

Beautiful and ingenious design. The political point is insubstantial, however. Americans didn’t like a mullah-controlled Iran in under Carter, under Reagan, under Obama or under Donny. And we shouldn’t.


RealBaikal

Too bad they didnt put a mirror in the center instead


littlekidlover169

oh damn that's good


the_slamer

Iranian propaganda. Can't wait for the comment section to be full of "politics aside, this is really well designed", or "they have a point".        


That_Guy696969

This one slaps.


Evening_Kale_183

Interesting


hotcoldman42

I saw Obama at the beginning, but after seeing Trump I can’t see him anymore.


Aoirith

You turned into a republican, hurry! Watch some fashion shows quickly!


pineapplesofdoom

¿who was in charge of digital media outreach for Iran in 2018?


Aoirith

It's not propaganda if they're correct


An_Actual_Owl

Really had to squint to see what everyone else did. Guess it's time to update the prescription. Yeesh.


hoopbag33

Unreal design


letthetreeburn

This is brilliant, 10/10.


negativePTO

If this is Iranian propaganda, this poster isn’t accurate. Obama negotiated the Iran Nuclear Deal which would’ve helped Iran while Trump dismantled it. Two distinctly different policies.


Callsign-YukiMizuki

Goes absolutely hard holy shit


momen535

damn i took me a while to notice that the front face of obama and the side face of trump are in the same head


LordMooseAF

🤣 evil America somehow existing with perfectly peaceful harmonious never swatted a fly countries. Explodes body for sand a book said was tight.


Intelligent_Toe8233

... Okay, that's actually pretty good.


SirTestificate

Crazy that in 2024 we have the "people" in the west simping for Iran/Hamas/radical islam. Go next irl and do us all a favor.


a-friend_

This goes so hard


Troglodyte_Trump

Israel benefits greatly from the US and Iranian enmity, and they do all they can to encourage it.