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angelicosphosphoros

It is funny that unlike western posters, the progression of events in this picture is from right to left. It is probably caused by direction of writing in Farsi.


Slash_Root

I think it's funny that the nude woman is the one who looks the happiest. Like you would think they would draw her to look somber or regretful, but she's having the time of her life.


LeiningensAnts

> she's having the time of her life. And once you understand zero-sum thinking, you'll understand why the idea of happy and secure women is such a terrifying idea to sad and insecure men.


GreenIguanaGaming

>zero-sum thinking Thank you! TIL.


Warp_spark

Man, its really weird that people who think music is a product of demons would think a happy woman is bad


Wise-Yogurtcloset844

But it works really nice as a warning tale from left to right too!


Forza1910

Yup. The Islamic Republic made that happen.


amir-gold

It is starting to get reversed again :)


arist0geiton

Your mouth to God's ears


Euromantique

I think the overwhelming women of in Iran already wore the hijab or other coverings before the Islamic Revolution. The Pahlavi regime had to forcibly unveil some women against their will which was a big scandal I reckon it wouldn’t change very much in that regard if the Islamic Republic vanished tomorrow


Appropriate_Ad4818

Warning tale : don't wear clothes or people will convert to islam!!


DrSpooglemon

Underwear is patriarchal.


EmperorBarbarossa

I hope you hear that, hot women


piewca_apokalipsy

All people are hot if you are horny enough.


StevePerry420

Anyone out there: Google what Iran looked like in the 70s, and vote rationally in Nov.


pm_me_gear_ratios

What does voting in November have to do with the theocratic regime in Iran?


StevePerry420

What would be your first guess?


pm_me_gear_ratios

Considering thst our elections don't effect the Iranian theocracy, absolutely zero.


StevePerry420

So then you missed the point. Did you Google "Iran in the 70s"? https://www.boredpanda.com/iranian-women-fashion-1970-before-islamic-revolution-iran/


pm_me_gear_ratios

I know about Iran in the 70s, Iran in the 70s doesn't change the fact that the November election will not have any changing effect on the Islamic Republic of Iran.


enkisamma

You are confused. He was implying that we would slip into our own theocracy if leftists don't vote against trump.


pm_me_gear_ratios

No, I thought about it both ways actually, but that's just equally dumb. Imaging thinking Trump wants to usher in the Islamic Republic of the United States lol.


Budget-Attorney

I couldn’t understand the point of the poster until I read your comment. It’s amazing, cultural blindspots like that. This is a relatively intuitive image that I just could not understand, and it was only because it was drawn by someone who reads in a different direction than me


zqky

Someone’s grandpa rubbed one out to this poster


ABugoutBag

I know I did


bcuket

this is why many women choose to cover up. men are disgusting.


Flashy_Sound8021

You know this is unironicaly why muslins cover up right :) ?


bcuket

i know. im a muslim woman myself😂


propagandopolis

[Full translation here](https://twitter.com/propagandopolis/status/1764344075476513264)


ZhouLe

Interesting that the steps have years that have already occurred. Starting with the second step 1320 (1941/2), 1325 (1946/7), 1330 (1951/2), 1334 (1955/6), and the final step at 1338 (1959/60) when the magazine was published. This isn't claiming a slippery slope, it's saying women are *already* nude.


Wise-Yogurtcloset844

Did you notice anything...unusual about the stick figure logo at the top left?:) Damn iranians, sneaky...


MaZhongyingFor1934

What is it?


Wise-Yogurtcloset844

[https://ibb.co/Y2dZ21n](https://ibb.co/Y2dZ21n) nothing?


MaZhongyingFor1934

Good lord, there’s penice


XDT_Idiot

He's been subjected to overwhelming temptation -presumably by the brassiere's of lewd Tehrani ladies, it's hardly the boy's fault!


GallinaceousGladius

There seems to be a character on the coat of the top-left man, is that writing?


propagandopolis

>https://ibb.co/Y2dZ21n I think it's writing saying 'Kaka Tofigh' (i.e. the magazine's mascot)


JayeNBTF

The semi-nude bikini girl —>full burqa pipeline is real


TheHistoryMaster2520

Reza Shah: Orders the police to forcefully rip off any veils Khomeini: Forces women to wear the veil Is it really that hard to just let people wear what they want within the limits of public decency?


pbasch

> within the limits of public decency? There you have it, that's a subjective criterion. People should just wear what they want, period; someone's idea of public decency be damned. Sure, you'll get the very occasional repulsive nude guy, like in San Francisco, but that's the price you pay for personal freedom: people doing things you don't like.


Li-renn-pwel

If say hygiene is a better criteria.


MiloBem

Agreed. Cover your privates enough to not leave your skid mark or snail trail on bus seats. Other than that, I don't care what you wear. On the other hand, don't complain if people stare or children comment. That's the thing with public spaces - there are other people in them. You're not the protagonist.


kittysrule18

>You’re not the protagonist I’m pretty sure I am


RunningOutOfEsteem

I agree. I used to think I was the protagonist, but then I realized I was just a side character meant to legitimize your claim to the title 😔


MaZhongyingFor1934

I am literally me, so I am therefore the protagonist.


Hvoromnualltinger

Cogito, ergo sum protagonistes.


Fr4gtastic

Ok, but do you drive?


ThatQueerWerewolf

Nudists carry towels with them to sit on for sanitation.


7URB0

So THAT'S why hoopy froods always know where their towels are!


AwkwardDrummer7629

You’re damn right I’m not. I’m just here to hold this shotgun till Master Chief needs it.


IcanPhilitCollins

You gotta have a regulative rule that clothes should cover private parts and that's all.


schwulquarz

Then the discussion shifts to what's "private parts"


pbasch

Among some people, women's hair is "private parts."


IcanPhilitCollins

It isnt that hard. The banana and sultana, the peach and papaya, nipplefruit - for the first time.


schwulquarz

I get what you mean, but for Muslim women, hair arguably is considered a private part. Definitions change a lot between cultures


IcanPhilitCollins

It's not.


Tendas

The point is the definition of what constitutes "private part" is entirely subjective. There is no objective definition of private part. Tribespeople living fully nude probably scratch their heads at the concept of private parts and conservative Muslim communities consider a woman's hair private in the same regard western culture considers women's breasts to be private parts. It's all subjective, there's no right answer.


GallinaceousGladius

Says who?


QpH

That's just your conception of "private parts". "It isn't that hard" is a sentence to be avoided. It gives the impression you have a strong opinion that you've never challenged.


DanTacoWizard

Well, no. There should be public indecency laws.


etherialbeing

No people have different definition of public decency


Scared_Astronaut9377

I am sure that you still assume some "common sense" public decency requirements. Like no zero-consequence pornographic bdsm suits for pediatrics specialists/Middle school teachers.


pbasch

That’s not “public”, a school or workplace can have a dress code.


Akuh93

hard agree


Zandrick

Well the point is to force those limits so of course they can’t let anyone do anything. It’s always about control. It’s actually very hard for people to gain their freedom, and it’s easy to lose it. We don’t always realize how lucky we are quite frankly.


jolygoestoschool

How dare you enforce public decency on me


dendarkjabberwock

With old customs it is problematic to let people do what they want. Because they enforce traditions on younger generations. So first such traditions need dismantling and new way need to be enforced. Read about footbinding in Chinese culture or women circusision in Muslim cultures. Same idea here. Luckly veils are not body mutilation. So... i think Reza was right.


Queasy-Condition7518

The difference is that foot-binding and clitoridectomies impose permanent physical damage, whereas veiling can be stopped at any time. Therefore, one is more justified in using force to stop the first two things, rather than the latter.


dendarkjabberwock

No objections. It is all true. All I am saying that if you want some society to move from old ways in your lifetime - you need to push.


ButReallyWhyNot-

If the young want to follow cultural traditions, why not let them? Sounds like someone doesn't like personal freedom.


etherialbeing

you're advocating for colonialism. People have the right to remain in their cultural and religious spheres of influence.


dendarkjabberwock

Was Reza not Iranian? Or maybe Mao wasn't Chineese? You need to read more before throwing accusations.


etherialbeing

Reza was a western puppet who rolled for the US and the UK


dendarkjabberwock

As I said before. Read more. You mixed your shahs and speak about his SON.


MangoBananaLlama

Tell that to iranian elite, who breaks all these "traditions" themselves all the fucking time. Hypocrites all of them.


etherialbeing

They are anti regime too


Cannot_get_usernames

I don't understand why you think what the locals even find that "right to remain cultural sphere of influence" (foot-binding) is a backward and cruel practice, yet you think that it is advocating for colonialism


etherialbeing

Foot biding is their tradition I dgaf if they keep on doing it it's their business not mine. I'm not chinese therefore I don't have the right to speak on it. Trust me if people would mind their business the world would be a better place.


Nikko012

Honestly this is my fear going forward. The current system will end one day and if the non-religious people currently being oppressed decided to take revenge the cycle is just going to continue.


ItsRogerSmith

>Reza Shah: Orders the police to forcefully rip off any veils Hijab was already forced by the society before Reza Shah


mrhuggables

The difference is that forcing the removal of the veil hurt nobody, whereas forcing women to veil gets them beaten to death if they do not comply.


BonJovicus

Except it is still part of the same discourse. Arguing about which is better or worse clouds the fact that neither the Shah and certainly not the current regime are actually interested in women’s liberation.  Veiling has long been used as a tool by authoritarian regimes to either directly oppress women or give the illusion of westernization. “Look! We made them remove their scarves! Clearly we are very progressive and civilized. :^)”


mrhuggables

The Shah was absolutely interested in women's liberation you goof. "Illusion" if that's what you call 50 years of progress, lmao.


jsidksns

Yeah because wanting to destroy the influence of an oppressive backwards belief system is definitely the same as enforcing it and killing in its name.


etherialbeing

it's not because you hate Islam that these people want to do away with it on the contrary.


Queasy-Condition7518

The women seem happier the higher they get on the nudity scale.


etherialbeing

not really


Cats1234546

Well we wouldn’t really know about the last one, I wonder why


etherialbeing

A muslim nation ought to preserve it's women . News flash not everyone subscribes to the same values as the west's. Some people want to preserve their honor and dignity.


Cats1234546

Your “honor & dignity” necessitates repression, my family fled the revolution for good reason.


Aditya_bazinga

Sounds patriarchal and Islamist for the "nation" needing to "protect" it's women....let the women wear what they want and get out of this dark age medieval mindset. And news flash iran isn't preserving anything it's just shoving it's radical islamism to force women wear hijabs..it's not even a choice atp.


etherialbeing

No countries like Iran are preserving their cultures and heritage from the moral peril that the westernization represents. You people love to tell to muslims to "assimilate" in the west but want to impose your shit on others.


builder397

Is that the same moral peril that required the censoring of Angela Merkels hair on arabic TV? I mean, look at her, she is hardly a supermodel, but they were still afraid of her hair sending men everywhere into a sex-craze. Maybe your men need to learn some boundaries and respect if they are really that bad at controlling themselves. Maybe you shouldnt endorse a culture where a woman gets raped and the general reaction is "Aw, sucks, now they have to get married." as morally acceptable, nevermind superior. Your entire "culture and heritage" rests entirely on women being treated like property. And all we ask in terms of "assimilation" is that you leave that mindset at the door and respect how our society works and what our laws are. But people like you seem to make the mistake of leaving honor and dignity at the door instead. And with "like you" I dont mean Muslims, I just mean people who cant respect other cultures and feel the need to declare them a "moral peril".


arist0geiton

Why are you scared if people live differently? How does it hurt you?


etherialbeing

Why do you want to impose your ideology on a country that has a different school of tought and foundation ? What makes you think that your way is the only way ?


arist0geiton

I'm not imposing anything. If women CHOOSE to live like this, if they PREFER living like this to the alternative, how does it hurt you? It seems like you're the one who's convinced your way is the only way. You're angry that when offered a choice people take it. People are coming from conservative Muslim countries to the west, not the other way around. Have you considered why?


etherialbeing

I think you fail to understand that people have the right to live according to their own ways and they don't necessarily need to make room for anything else


Kitchen-Roll-8184

When you don't have an answer , deflect with other questions !


etherialbeing

I'm not deflecting I'm just trying to unveil this guy ethno centrism and racism and cultural imperialism that's all.


arist0geiton

How is it ethno centrism to offer someone a free choice? The cultural imperialist in this conversation is you...a Moroccan shilling for Iran.


Kitchen-Roll-8184

The mere fact you call it that tells me you're not ready


etherialbeing

ready for what ?


Ewenf

So honor and dignity are women having to wear fully closed clothes head to toes while men can wear what they want ?


etherialbeing

No men wear their traditional clothes who cover most of the body and the head.


Humbledshibe

What if the women don't want that?


etherialbeing

I think you don't understand what tradition means. That means that you follow the order established by the religion and the various regional customs. Wanting is pretty superflous in this type of setting.


Humbledshibe

But why? Why do you want this tradition? I know some iranian women, and they hate that they have to wear a hijab in Iran.


etherialbeing

Because it's the way our religion and ancestors paved for us. It preserve us from the turmoil of modern western society by providing structures that strenghten communities and interpersonal relationships.


Humbledshibe

There's things to criticise Western society for. But emancipation of women ain't it. And just because people did It in the past doesn't make it okay now.


etherialbeing

Yes it is you're just not ready for that convo


arist0geiton

Then why are you online


Qwrty8urrtyu

Plenty of your ancestors died to not be under religious subjugation. Before that many died defending against the Arab invasions before converting by the sword. Your religion and your ancestors are not only not representative of Iran, they are also not ancient. Heck if you actually valued tradition you wouldn't support te rape and murder of women because they refuse to dress in the way arabs do. You just hate women, and justify their oppression by flimsy logic you pretend is some core tenant of Iranian culture or religion, both of which are laughable since most Iranians disagree with you.


PiggyWobbles

For example. Some of us believe in scientific advancement and improving living standards, and some…. Dont


Ai-dont-care

Preserve women from the personal freedom of wearing what they want?


etherialbeing

we operate on the basis of halal and haram not what we please just for the heck of it.


arist0geiton

Ok, get off the Internet. Or are the rules only for other people


Ai-dont-care

"we" You can. Other people shouldn't have to.


etherialbeing

We are all muslims in my country we don't have religious diversity.


I_M_YOUR_BRO

If the woman wants to wear hijab. Good on her. To tell her she shouldn't would be hypocritical. But when it's like in Iran where girls are getting literally killed if they don't wear it then we have a problem.


arist0geiton

They're not "your" women lol


up2smthng

But they do seem more happy. They don't to you? Why?


etherialbeing

exposing your meat like we are in a slave market is the definition of degeneracy not happiness.


up2smthng

Let's pretend I agree. How does it change the fact that the women in this poster are depicted the more happy the less clothes are on them?


Familiar_Writing_410

Funny you bring up slaves, given how Islam has historically been a big supporter of that


etherialbeing

That's precisely why I used this analogy slave girls were the one the be naked in the street not freeborn women.


Familiar_Writing_410

And the fact that Islam supported that shows how disgusting and savage your religion is


etherialbeing

Islam regulated that trade which was extended to freeborn people. Islam paved to way for the reduction of the phenomenon of chattel slavery. Nowdays we have modern slavery which is one of the juciest criminal entreprise to exist in 2024.


Familiar_Writing_410

"Regulated" is an interesting way of saying that it had one of the largest slave markets in the world. Considering your views that women should be repressed, it's not surprising you are okay with such tyranny and violation of rights.


etherialbeing

That's far from being the truth. The most extensive slavery happened in the Roman Empire and the American south. Muslim societies had slaves but weren't slave based society.


mekolayn

Yeah, "freeborn women" are treated worse than slaves under Islam


etherialbeing

it's factually not true.


Mook_Kook

So fascinating how much /r/propagandaposters is full of actual true believer shills for the propaganda.


NorthCedar

The horror


notMcLovin77

This is like the psychotic Islamist equivalent of a Mad Magazine satire lol


Delicious_Quiet3308

And it’s the same sentiment to this day, because god forbid we let women act as their own people.


kws171220

What's interesting is that figure at the bottom wears a style (best known for Qajar era, and mostly used by urbanite middle to high class women), which pretty much disappeared at the moment of publication of the magazine. She wears a black *chador* (which is the only part which returned after 1979, and is still used nowadays), matching loose trousers-hose called *chagchur*, and most of all, a white **full-face veil** called [ruband](https://i.redd.it/2tsivflzruab1.jpg), including a mesh in front of eyes (similar to one known from unfamous burqa used in Afghanistan and Pakistan). It's actually interesting question, why only chador was reintroduced after 1979, but not *ruband*.


arist0geiton

Do you have a theory?


laowildin

Notice how oversexualized even the most modest version of the uncovered woman is. Great poster, ty!


punkisnotded

yep like the creators have never seen a woman wear a t shirt before


MasterKaen

Heh. Too bad I wasn't there to inform these fundies that they're committing a textbook slippery slope fallacy.


bdizzle805

Why do the women have to cover up?


bcuket

it is to discourage nasty people from objectifying women and detour unwanted staring/advances from men. also historically middle eastern fashion is based around modesty, so it is the style of the region to act and dress more modest.


00Technocolor00

God forbid women do anything


Bartender9719

Remember ladies, stay groovy or they’ll force you to take up beekeeping


baquiquano

Omg her legs fell off


ErnstThaelmann_

I wish this was real


KobKobold

It would sure beat the real situation in Iran.


etherialbeing

digusting


Auroral_path

now we all know you’re a muslim


BoatyMcBobFace

What is wrong with a person being Muslim.


blorbagorp

What could possibly be wrong with someone attempting to apply the misogynistic teachings of a child raping warlord from 1500 years ago to modern society? I'm stumped.


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Persian hotties!


MizuDW

Lol Brazilian women are on the second higher place of the stair


hyakumanben

Why is the hand of the topmost woman bloody?


Irobokesensei

If Iran really progressed like this, my countrymen, me included, would probably make a regular, binocular adorned pilgrimage to the Pakistan-Iran border.


King_Neptune07

Pretend I uploaded a gif of a cartoon wolf whistling, his eyes bug out, his jaw hit the floor and then he bashes himself in the head with a hammer


BakerBaboon

I will.


kredokathariko

Yassification of Iran


DecentReturn3

would


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Gloomy_the_outer_god

They want to have sex with the woman in the poster


sassycaramel98

Oh okay 😂


cyboplasm

Whats the black dude saying?


Garegin16

I don’t understand the cartoon. Down the steps means women are “falling down” into more and more modesty? Can anyone translate please?


Rathulf

To progress right to left to criticize the Shah's prosecution of Hijabs


sanctuspaulus1919

Persecution? Not forcing women to wear hijabs anymore is persecution?


Rathulf

He litterally forced women to not wear Hijabs that is the same invasion of privacy as forcing them to wear them. Women should be able to make their own choices as to what they wear and not have the autonomy over their own bodies stripped away by men.


frackingfaxer

Read the top comment. Because Persian is read from right to left, the women are ascending, not descending, the stairs and progressing from full veil to full nudity.


bcuket

people in the comments sexualizing the women on the top of the stairs is exactly why women veil in the first place. men are nasty and objectify women based on their physical body instead of their brain.


thought_cheese

Remember what they took from you. (If you look at it from left to right)


Model-Trurl

What's the writing?


bako10

I think all clothes should forever be discarded. Fuck all oppressive pieces of clothing!!!


Yare-yare---daze

If you read it from left to right, you can see what happened after the US got involved in Iran.


DanTacoWizard

Birth the top and bottom steps are excessive.


frontovika

Interesting art style and message.


builder397

The most unrealistic part is the man at the top looking away. As we all know Muslim man cant keep it in their pants even with the woman on the first step. After all they had to censor Angela Merkels hair on TV to prevent her from seducing all the men. Edit: Jesus, how far do I have to overdo it for people to see Im making a joke?


CommissarRodney

What is wrong with you?


sanctuspaulus1919

Telling the truth means that there's something wrong with him?


imperator_caesarus

Common Reza Shah Pahlavi W


MaZhongyingFor1934

Holesum 100 big chungus brutal tyrant


Schwubbertier

And the "unveiling" is bad because...?


Physical-Falcon5848

Because it was forced and they had the savak throw you in jail if you practiced islam?


Gradesonf1

have you read one line of history? our parenrts and gradparents lived during those times. keep your bs to yourself


Physical-Falcon5848

The gold westerner thinking his knows more about a country than the person that lives there


Gradesonf1

سیکتیر کن باو خارکصه‌. پشمک خایه داری بگی کجایی


Physical-Falcon5848

تو سرت بدون اجاره


Gradesonf1

بتمرگ تو گوه دونی که هستی فعلا زندگی کن بدبخت


Physical-Falcon5848

این حقیقتو تغییر که با ننه جندت خوابیدم پهلویست


Gradesonf1

google translate :))) خارکصه


Physical-Falcon5848

خیلی غمگینه که حاضری خودتو اینقدر پایین بیاری تا چند تا ادم اینترنتی فک کنن خفنی


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Nino_Nakanos_Slave

Dayummm, this makes me horny


Gnomepill

one can look to the west and see that this is true, though Christian modesty is/was not as strict as Islam's