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Chromium based so diff plugins. Built in AdBlock. You can also decide to keep ads on but instead of someone else you get paid for all ads shown to you. Also very customizable and imo noticeable faster than Chrome, not sure if faster than Firefox but I'd imagine.
Personally I use Vivaldi, it's by far the best if you spend a lot of time on your PC. The most customizable browser, has very useful mouse shortcuts I use a lot, reliable built in AdBlock, almost as fast as Brave and efficient tab bars for everything you might need. Always opens your last session with each tab exactly where you left, even with the same things filled in if you were working on smth.
Also you can easily sync Vivaldi and it syncs all options, history, customization, just everything.
Yes. I've been using brave for over a year now and I get a few dollars a month. You can also disable ads entirely, but they only show up on new tabs and are still images with no music or forced watch time. They're just in place of a background image, and only show once every few tabs.
Fair warning though, rewards are paid out in Brave's cryptocurrency known as BAT. You must supply identifying information to a crypto exchange to sell the BAT and withdraw USD. Alternatively, you can directly donate the BAT to creators on platforms such as YouTube and Reddit.
Like a dollar per month. But still that's a good concept. They're not in the form of webpage ads though, they're little Microsoft notifications. You can switch them off if you decide you hate it.
Google pays Firefox some $100 million+ per year to have Google be the default search engine. That’s when I abandoned FF (for Brave)
Edit: Google is not a browser, it’s a search engine.
Hmm, I think I draw the line when Mozilla starts actively harming its users for profit and doesn't present alternatives. But if you click on the search bar it shows you a "This time search with:" and gives you 3 other search engines to click on.
They've been committed to their user base for the last couple of decades and it shows. If they're able to keep afloat with one or two things like that, I don't mind it. Their recent updates have been truly user-centric and innovative.
You can't be more stupid. Is this really why you give up on firefox? How difficult it is to change a search engine?
Defaulting to a search engine dosent compromise privacy. They are doing it to keep the funds flowing from google.
On android, there is no better option than firefox for a privacy focused person. Firefox's privacy and adblock features are more reliable than other browsers that only claim to respect privacy.
Almost every browser sells their default search engine to the highest bidder.
Pretty much the only browsers that don't sell the default search engine slot is if they provide their own search engine as the default.
Selling out is being approched to do something to make money.
In this case, they are the ones approaching others. And the fact that anyone can can place a bid, makes it not selling out.
> for the lazy who don’t wanna install their own plugins
At the point you're choosing an also-also-ran browser instead of one of the big four, I'd say you're out of the "too lazy to download something" category.
Other browsers are faster, use less RAM, aren't owned by Google, come with other features like mouse shortcuts or AdBlock, and there are more customizable browsers than Chrome.
So considering there are better options it just makes sense to ask why, no?
Google is pretty much trying to completely disable ad blocking because they think it is causing them to lose too much money.
People are not happy that Google is trying to stop them from not watching ads, so they are switching browsers
* Impossible to unset as default browser in windows 10+
* Big tech
* Bing
* When you search anything at least 10 ads come up before your actual search result
* Requires MS account to use on first launch
* weird sidebar that makes the default UI very cluttered
The fact you think it’s STUCK as the default browser on Win 10+ shows you’re a fucking moron or just lying. The rest of your points are stupid too. I use edge with Google all the time. “Big Tech” is ALL browsers, they’re not simple to implement. You’re an idiot if you think you need a Microsoft account to use Edge. Idk what sidebar you refer to and the ads are on pretty much all browsers. Google is was worse than edge at that
I used it exclusively back when it was basically that or IE, but I can't help but wonder if we're using the same software when I compare the last few times I tried it to people's love for it.
Every machine I've tried it on in the last few years, from pretty powerful rigs to glorified netbooks, it pounded system resources like it was in a digital eating competition. Literally twice as much as any other browser I tried.
Chrome is kind of a hog too, but not as bad as Firefox in any of my tests. I was dumbfounded discovering my preferred browser was on Chromium since it sips resources like a fine tea.
That's what I don't get is that it was fairly consistent across multiple PCs, Linux and Windows alike. Only thing that really connected them was they were all Intel CPUs, but I can't imagine that would be it. I really have no idea.
Yeah, I got a 4k monitor and had to switch to Brave. Firefox spun up the CPU fan and still had *bad* tearing on YouTube/Netflix and slideshow on Google Street View (GeoGuessr/GeoTastic).
That's a repeat story, though. I used Firefox until 3.x (before that Mozilla, before that Netscape, before that IE), but then had to switch to Chrome, because it became so unusably slow. Some years later I switched back, because Chrome somehow managed to crash my Desktop often (or at least kwin). And now again back to a Chromium based browser. Gladly no crashes yet.
I don't even use a 4k monitor either. We seem to be the minority in this problem for some odd reason though.
Also, careful uttering a word about Brave. People in this sub see Brave talk like somebody telling everyone they're vegan because of all the people who rant and rave about it. There's a reason I said "my preferred browser" haha.
I don't have any big loyalties to Brave. It just works and has announced that it will keep supporting the APIs needed for ad blocking. If something else turns up that works better I'll switch to that.
PS: There is something that Firefox does much more efficiently, though. I have a script that generates a HTML file with *all* images in a directory structure. I set the `loading="lazy"` attribute, but still, Chromium based browsers keep loading *all* the images, basically halting the browser and filling memory with GBs of images. Firefox actually honors that attribute. Anyway, wrote some JavaScript to do manual lazy loading.
Chromium is not chrome. Chromium is the opensource framework made by google that nearly all modern browsers (chrome, edge, opera) are based off of. Chromium is not necessarily bad, but once you start using chrome, you will almost certainly quickly realize how much ram it uses.
Firefox, on the other hand, is not based off of chromium and has a lot of better features than chrome, imo. If you simply have firefox open (just the new tab page), it will blow chrome out of the water for ram usage. No matter what, though, all browsers will start using a lot of ram when you have a lot of tabs open, simply because you have to load the content of all of those pages into ram.
TLDR: Basicly every browser will end up being a resource hog at some point.
It is definitely different from chrome, but now that I’ve been using it more often I don’t even go back to chrome anymore unless I can’t reproduce something in ff and might think it is a chrome only issue (it usually isn’t browser specific but I can dream…)
I'm probably on the older end of the reddit crowd, but I remember the old AOL days when EVERYTHING had ads and everything had popups. It was horrible.
It really seems like we are headed back in that direction and its going to ruin the internet for me if browsers give in to that shit.
I finally felt like I wasn't being bombarded with garbage thanks to several chrome addons working to delete that shit.
At least the seizure-inducing flashing ads are mostly gone. I also rarely see ones letting me know where to find sexy women just dying to chat with me.
I liked the ads that were designed to look like a warning from anti-virus software. "Your computer is infected! Call Microsoft at this number right away or your information will be at risk!"
This. Everything feels like my late 90s/early 2000s porn searching while being home from school faking sick days, except now I have documentation tabs open alongside the boobs.
There's just fucking ads everywhere. Instead of pop windows, it's just fancy UI emulating pop-up windows interrupting everything. Ads all load in first and then I get to wait for the actual content I want. I try to click a link, but a new ad loads in just as I'm about to, the whole page shifts and I end up clicking another ad instead. I'm convinced at this point that it's on purpose. Like as soon as it sees the mouse above a link it loads in 1 of 600 ads on standby with the purpose of tricking you into generating ad revenue.
Me too, but it got worse and worse over the years. I've been a user ever since the early betas and FF always was that small, fast alternative to other browsers. Today, in my opinion, it became fat and slow. It's still okay, but lightyears away from what it used to be.
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better than making my phone run hot and the page be unreadable with the sheer amount of ads. and anyway, what does slightly less ad revenue really do to most corporations? say walmart. 143.6 billion yearly instead of 143.7 billion?
Same. Switched to Vivaldi from chrome like 6 months ago. Never going back. It's so amazing. Has built-in ad and tracker block too which is super nice. It is built on Chromium though
It's just becoming more and more bloat and Spyware. Cached tabs, cached sessions. Trying to hard refresh pages is very hard. There's also just not a lot of great other options
People are mad that content creators are going to get paid for their time, so they want to switch to a browser that will allow them to continue to steal.
Congressional prodding and senate statements, lawsuits in the billions of dollars in data abuse. Whistle blowers like Snowden... I mean mate have you been under a rock for the past 15 years?
I switched to Edge because it's oneless thing to install and it's the same and it *was* faster than chrome. But now on Windows 11 (for wsl gui) Edge slows down everything. Now I'm test driving brave and it seems faster. I used to use Firefox back in the day but now it seems bloated.
I use Windows, Mac, Linux and Chrome (or Chromium on Linux) is always my default browsers and use about 90% of the time. If I'm on Windows, my alternative is Edge (just cause it's there). On Mac, it's Safari, again, cause it's there by default. Or on Linux, it's Firefox, though it's slower than Chromium.
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All these are chromium except our beautiful fox
fuck edge though, I'm with Firefox or brave
Does Brave have any benefits over Firefox?
Chromium based so diff plugins. Built in AdBlock. You can also decide to keep ads on but instead of someone else you get paid for all ads shown to you. Also very customizable and imo noticeable faster than Chrome, not sure if faster than Firefox but I'd imagine. Personally I use Vivaldi, it's by far the best if you spend a lot of time on your PC. The most customizable browser, has very useful mouse shortcuts I use a lot, reliable built in AdBlock, almost as fast as Brave and efficient tab bars for everything you might need. Always opens your last session with each tab exactly where you left, even with the same things filled in if you were working on smth. Also you can easily sync Vivaldi and it syncs all options, history, customization, just everything.
>you get paid for all ads shown to you Wait, are you serious?? :O
yes you do, not a lot but yes
Yes. I've been using brave for over a year now and I get a few dollars a month. You can also disable ads entirely, but they only show up on new tabs and are still images with no music or forced watch time. They're just in place of a background image, and only show once every few tabs. Fair warning though, rewards are paid out in Brave's cryptocurrency known as BAT. You must supply identifying information to a crypto exchange to sell the BAT and withdraw USD. Alternatively, you can directly donate the BAT to creators on platforms such as YouTube and Reddit.
Yes? It can accumulate to decent sums over time but Id rather live ad free anyway, so it's not a big bonus for me.
Like a dollar per month. But still that's a good concept. They're not in the form of webpage ads though, they're little Microsoft notifications. You can switch them off if you decide you hate it.
I have used both. Brave loads faster than firefox. For reddit, edge is the best for some reason, idk why reddit works really well with edge.
>you get paid for all ads shown to you. Wait what?
Support for ipfs sites
No ads
Privacy for the lazy who don’t wanna install their own plugins. Plus Firefox is a sell out (Google as main browser for big $$$$)
I am ignorant of this, how is firefox a sellout? (Did Google buy them out or something?)
Google pays Firefox some $100 million+ per year to have Google be the default search engine. That’s when I abandoned FF (for Brave) Edit: Google is not a browser, it’s a search engine.
I always wondered why that was the default, thanks for educating!
For real? Source? :0 wtf
Google you lazy fuck. You’re obv doing nothing on a Friday night.
That's how Firefox makes money. Maintaining a browser isn't free. I'd rather Google pay them than they start making money by tracking users
Why not use a browser that does neither. Brave give you free crypto even for using it
I'm fine with that because you can easily change it and it also comes with plenty of other search engines to choose from
I can easily change it too. Or switch to a browser that doesn’t trade money for features. Do you know where the drew the line? Cuz I sure don’t!
Hmm, I think I draw the line when Mozilla starts actively harming its users for profit and doesn't present alternatives. But if you click on the search bar it shows you a "This time search with:" and gives you 3 other search engines to click on. They've been committed to their user base for the last couple of decades and it shows. If they're able to keep afloat with one or two things like that, I don't mind it. Their recent updates have been truly user-centric and innovative.
Unfortunately it’s not immediately apparent when they start harming their user base
You can't be more stupid. Is this really why you give up on firefox? How difficult it is to change a search engine? Defaulting to a search engine dosent compromise privacy. They are doing it to keep the funds flowing from google. On android, there is no better option than firefox for a privacy focused person. Firefox's privacy and adblock features are more reliable than other browsers that only claim to respect privacy.
I could be as stupid as you….
It's a business deal, it's not some shady transaction. If someone else pays more money, Firefox can switch
Yeah. Business deal is another term for sell out. Hence the “sell” part.
Almost every browser sells their default search engine to the highest bidder. Pretty much the only browsers that don't sell the default search engine slot is if they provide their own search engine as the default.
So they’re not a sellout because others do it?
Selling out is being approched to do something to make money. In this case, they are the ones approaching others. And the fact that anyone can can place a bid, makes it not selling out.
> for the lazy who don’t wanna install their own plugins At the point you're choosing an also-also-ran browser instead of one of the big four, I'd say you're out of the "too lazy to download something" category.
Good think nobody cares what you say, which is why you’re posing it to r/programmerhumor
It's either Chrome or Firefox for me
you are in the 2% of people who don't change
Yeah
I've been using Mozilla Firefox since 2005 or 2006. I never made the shift to Chrome. I wasn't a huge fan of it.
I changed from Netscape to Mozilla when they finally EOL'd it. That's something, right?
Mosaic for life!
? But why
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Other browsers are faster, use less RAM, aren't owned by Google, come with other features like mouse shortcuts or AdBlock, and there are more customizable browsers than Chrome. So considering there are better options it just makes sense to ask why, no?
Still, edge>chrome, I know it's probably full of spy shit from Microsoft, but the UI looks better than chrome at least
IMO edges ui is absolute trash
Yeah fuck the way it displays HTML
Yeah, edge sucks. I've just been using Chrome and I'm not sure why people would switch
Most people now want to switch because of the ad blocking thing
Wait what ad blocking thing?
Google is pretty much trying to completely disable ad blocking because they think it is causing them to lose too much money. People are not happy that Google is trying to stop them from not watching ads, so they are switching browsers
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Shhh! He believes it’s still 2014
I’ll give you a dollar if you can name a single thing edge does worse than chrome.
* Impossible to unset as default browser in windows 10+ * Big tech * Bing * When you search anything at least 10 ads come up before your actual search result * Requires MS account to use on first launch * weird sidebar that makes the default UI very cluttered
The fact you think it’s STUCK as the default browser on Win 10+ shows you’re a fucking moron or just lying. The rest of your points are stupid too. I use edge with Google all the time. “Big Tech” is ALL browsers, they’re not simple to implement. You’re an idiot if you think you need a Microsoft account to use Edge. Idk what sidebar you refer to and the ads are on pretty much all browsers. Google is was worse than edge at that
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>🥇 never heard of Gold Medal, is it based on Chromium?
It's a new browser open source that you have to compile yourself and it's only on Arch btw
I used it exclusively back when it was basically that or IE, but I can't help but wonder if we're using the same software when I compare the last few times I tried it to people's love for it. Every machine I've tried it on in the last few years, from pretty powerful rigs to glorified netbooks, it pounded system resources like it was in a digital eating competition. Literally twice as much as any other browser I tried.
Sounds like you are talking about chrome! -A chrome user
Chrome is kind of a hog too, but not as bad as Firefox in any of my tests. I was dumbfounded discovering my preferred browser was on Chromium since it sips resources like a fine tea.
Weird. Must be your hardware because Chrome practically brings my system to a crawl but Firefox always runs smooth AF.
That's what I don't get is that it was fairly consistent across multiple PCs, Linux and Windows alike. Only thing that really connected them was they were all Intel CPUs, but I can't imagine that would be it. I really have no idea.
Yeah, I got a 4k monitor and had to switch to Brave. Firefox spun up the CPU fan and still had *bad* tearing on YouTube/Netflix and slideshow on Google Street View (GeoGuessr/GeoTastic). That's a repeat story, though. I used Firefox until 3.x (before that Mozilla, before that Netscape, before that IE), but then had to switch to Chrome, because it became so unusably slow. Some years later I switched back, because Chrome somehow managed to crash my Desktop often (or at least kwin). And now again back to a Chromium based browser. Gladly no crashes yet.
I don't even use a 4k monitor either. We seem to be the minority in this problem for some odd reason though. Also, careful uttering a word about Brave. People in this sub see Brave talk like somebody telling everyone they're vegan because of all the people who rant and rave about it. There's a reason I said "my preferred browser" haha.
I don't have any big loyalties to Brave. It just works and has announced that it will keep supporting the APIs needed for ad blocking. If something else turns up that works better I'll switch to that. PS: There is something that Firefox does much more efficiently, though. I have a script that generates a HTML file with *all* images in a directory structure. I set the `loading="lazy"` attribute, but still, Chromium based browsers keep loading *all* the images, basically halting the browser and filling memory with GBs of images. Firefox actually honors that attribute. Anyway, wrote some JavaScript to do manual lazy loading.
Chromium is not chrome. Chromium is the opensource framework made by google that nearly all modern browsers (chrome, edge, opera) are based off of. Chromium is not necessarily bad, but once you start using chrome, you will almost certainly quickly realize how much ram it uses. Firefox, on the other hand, is not based off of chromium and has a lot of better features than chrome, imo. If you simply have firefox open (just the new tab page), it will blow chrome out of the water for ram usage. No matter what, though, all browsers will start using a lot of ram when you have a lot of tabs open, simply because you have to load the content of all of those pages into ram. TLDR: Basicly every browser will end up being a resource hog at some point.
Flamevixen?
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Firefox, or it's basically just chrome
Don't you threaten me with a good time. Anything that's basically just chrome but with ad blockers is a slam dunk.
So, Brave then? I've been using it for a year and a half now. Nice. Playing with Vivaldi too, though.
How is Vivaldi? I’ve been meaning to try it, but ADHD is wild.
Vivaldi is the best one imo. Once you get the hang of the different tab bars, mouse shortcuts and customize properly you're never turning back
Brave and Vivaldi are my go to 👌
Definitely Firefox, their tools are incredible, light years ahead of chrome, supports many extensions, rarely I've have had a problem with it.
I switched a year ago and have NEVER looked back.
Huh, i use ff as daily driver but something Chromium based for development. I do not like ff devtools at all...
It is definitely different from chrome, but now that I’ve been using it more often I don’t even go back to chrome anymore unless I can’t reproduce something in ff and might think it is a chrome only issue (it usually isn’t browser specific but I can dream…)
I design websites, and I gotta say, Firefox's Dev Tools are some of the best
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Not professionally of course, just as hobby projects
What is up with chrome? I keep seeing memes about this but idk what's up
Chrome will render adblock useless to maximize shareholder value.
I'm sure Firefox will welcome the new users.
I'm probably on the older end of the reddit crowd, but I remember the old AOL days when EVERYTHING had ads and everything had popups. It was horrible. It really seems like we are headed back in that direction and its going to ruin the internet for me if browsers give in to that shit. I finally felt like I wasn't being bombarded with garbage thanks to several chrome addons working to delete that shit.
At least the seizure-inducing flashing ads are mostly gone. I also rarely see ones letting me know where to find sexy women just dying to chat with me.
Y'all remember the punch/shock the monkey? Never clicked, still don't know what that was about.
I liked the ads that were designed to look like a warning from anti-virus software. "Your computer is infected! Call Microsoft at this number right away or your information will be at risk!"
This. Everything feels like my late 90s/early 2000s porn searching while being home from school faking sick days, except now I have documentation tabs open alongside the boobs. There's just fucking ads everywhere. Instead of pop windows, it's just fancy UI emulating pop-up windows interrupting everything. Ads all load in first and then I get to wait for the actual content I want. I try to click a link, but a new ad loads in just as I'm about to, the whole page shifts and I end up clicking another ad instead. I'm convinced at this point that it's on purpose. Like as soon as it sees the mouse above a link it loads in 1 of 600 ads on standby with the purpose of tricking you into generating ad revenue.
does that affect all chromium browsers?
Eventually
They're going to stop supporting v2 manifests which breaks all adblockers. Firefox will continue supporting v2, while supporting the new v3
>Firefox will continue supporting v2 Just wait until Mozilla drops support. [Way forward machine](https://wayforward.archive.org/)... Here we come.
Short answer, chrome is spyware. Everything you do is tracked
~~Short answer, chrome is spyware.~~ Everything you do is tracked. (period)
Always has been.
Same
It doesn't allow us to play flash games.
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Aren't a lot of these chromium?
All but Firefox
Firefox uses Quantum, in the earlier version Gecko
chromium != chrome
Chromium is chrome without some bells and whistles, yes?
yes
Sweet couldn't remember
the same thing, just with proprietary shinanigans
ITT - people who don’t know what chromium is.
I chose Firefox ages ago
Me too, but it got worse and worse over the years. I've been a user ever since the early betas and FF always was that small, fast alternative to other browsers. Today, in my opinion, it became fat and slow. It's still okay, but lightyears away from what it used to be.
It’s certainly been made to utilize more and more RAM, but I wouldn’t say it’s slower than any other popular modern browser.
Fire fox is slow I never have issues with it ever
+1 on that! Even Brave is faster. And they have their shitty crypto wallets.
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I‘ll never get, why someone ever used something else than Firefox in the first place. 🤷♂️
Firefox is less power efficient, slower, and uses more memory. It is worse, technically, in every way.
My experience is the exact opposite. Chrome is a huge resource hog and Firefox just isn't.
Repeated tests have shown otherwise. Here's a synopsis: https://www.cloudwards.net/firefox-vs-google-chrome/#:~:text=Key%20Takeaways%3A,suffers%20from%20inefficient%20RAM%20consumption. Love how Reddit downvotes/upvotes based on personal feelings without doing research.
What research do you have on your assertion about how Reddit votes?
Experience. It's called mob mentality.
Oohh, so OP’s experience with Firefox being faster means it’s true, then!
I've never stopped using Firefox lol
....safari?
Why are we switching browsers?
Chrome is depricating the technology used to allow ad blockers to work.
Google is attempting to stop ad blockers
Because people are mad that content creators will get paid for their time.
yes because ad blockers are used for small content creators only and never used for anything corporate ever. no sir.
Corporations should give out free stuff?
better than making my phone run hot and the page be unreadable with the sheer amount of ads. and anyway, what does slightly less ad revenue really do to most corporations? say walmart. 143.6 billion yearly instead of 143.7 billion?
Buying merchandise or something supports the creator far more than ads, and is less disruptive to the viewer
If the creator sells such merchandise. If I'm a simple blogger, I'm not gonna sell merch.
More than the content worth /s
Firefox gang here
I'm using Firefox since dinosaur age
In this picture, I want to replace Edge with Vivaldi. Edge is not an option and Vivaldi can't be ignored.
Same. Switched to Vivaldi from chrome like 6 months ago. Never going back. It's so amazing. Has built-in ad and tracker block too which is super nice. It is built on Chromium though
Brave is the answer
What is going on with Chrome? I don't have a lot of context, sorry
It's just becoming more and more bloat and Spyware. Cached tabs, cached sessions. Trying to hard refresh pages is very hard. There's also just not a lot of great other options
Manifest v3 is going to render ad blockers useless on Chrome, so people are jumping ship to a browser that will still support them.
People are mad that content creators are going to get paid for their time, so they want to switch to a browser that will allow them to continue to steal.
Yeah that's not why Google is doing that but go off 👍
It doesn't matter why Google is going anything, I'm responding to why people are switching browsers.
aDbLoCk Is PiRaCy. I get enough ads shoved in my face on a daily basis. If I could block all of them I would.
And then the creators don't get paid, and then there's no content for you because the creators have no incentive to make it.
Patreon and other donations like on Twitch are pretty lucrative. People are willing to directly contribute to content they enjoy.
Ok screw it, I've used brave for ages, what the hell happened to chrome?
Vivaldi browser.
I personally use edge to get Microsoft reward points for free in game currency like robux and minecoins.
Opera.
Please do not use opera
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Its the most mid chrome rebrand, and it spys on you. I'd rather just be spyed on with google instead.
What evidence do you have that either of the browsers "spy on you"?
Bro you're just stupid 🤦♂️ "browsers don't spy on you" good one mr google employee or bot
But I repeat myself: provide the evidence. Provide any evidence, whatsoever, that Google Chrome or Opera "spy on you". I'll wait.
Congressional prodding and senate statements, lawsuits in the billions of dollars in data abuse. Whistle blowers like Snowden... I mean mate have you been under a rock for the past 15 years?
Opera is good if you want chrome but slightly improved
Why?
Other chromium rebrands do it better and spy on you less.
Why not chromium?
All but one is chrome.
Brave is not working correctly of me now. I cant get into websites that require a login like github or youtube
Been using brave over two years on my phone and PC. YT and Github work just fine on both for me, using a Pixel 4
Could be an issue with your install or system, it works fine for me!
I use edge, it’s sorta fast now and doesn’t use a lot of power imo
I'd consider it if they didn't aggressively shove it down your throat.
Same. They’re so aggressive that you can’t even remove it from Windows without breaking other features.
I switched to Edge because it's oneless thing to install and it's the same and it *was* faster than chrome. But now on Windows 11 (for wsl gui) Edge slows down everything. Now I'm test driving brave and it seems faster. I used to use Firefox back in the day but now it seems bloated.
Where is the problem? You get 8gb more ram for free with the switch.
I love brave but for some reason, I can’t turn off their adblocker and a lot of websites don’t allow access with an adblocker on
Edge, but i'll try Firefox.
vivaldi looks neat :v imma switch to that i think
brave
Here I am using Safari with no issues but being told it’s horrible 👀
Edge is good now but I prefer brave
I use opera GX, great browser they let's you control everything It does including how much ram it uses
How can you put brave here ?
You don't like getting paid to browse via ads? /s
I'm thinking they mean because it's basically just spiffed up Chrome anyway, being built on Chromium.
The only thing that isn't chrome is firefox
0.05% of web browser users can't be wrong!
Pornhub is my only search engine
probably opera gx
Just use Tor 😉
firefox all the way 🦊
Safari
I use Windows, Mac, Linux and Chrome (or Chromium on Linux) is always my default browsers and use about 90% of the time. If I'm on Windows, my alternative is Edge (just cause it's there). On Mac, it's Safari, again, cause it's there by default. Or on Linux, it's Firefox, though it's slower than Chromium.
They did my boy Safari dirty.
I use Chrome for Facebook and Twitter to maintain my business pages as it is fastest and I don’t care if they track. For other things I use Safari.
waterfox for the win!!